GN'R At Louder Than Life 2019 - Sep 28th (was: Festival rumour?)

[allwaystired]

A rumour is doing the rounds that a leak has suggested GNR are playing at the Louder Than Life Festival in Kentucky in September.

I think it's based on this: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2163062487062564&id=289072954461536&anchor_composer=false and personally, I'm very doubtful it's genuine, but thought I'd throw it up on here anyway......

[sofine11]

Oh wonderful, another reason to not record new music. 

[cineater]

Saw that rumor.  Pretty exciting to have the band back on the road, you know, if it's true.

[Lord Stan]

Oh wonderful, another reason to not record new music. 

I second this. So now there is no need for new music. There is no way in hell that any new material would suddenly come up in some festival gig.

I'm not excited to have the band back on the road if it means this.

[cineater]

I first heard Maddie and The Blues at RIR 2001.  New music at a festival has already been done.  Could happen again if they are doing a warm up gig here for RIR 2019.

[COMAMOTIVE]

2 ways I look at it

1) agree - rather hear a new album than have them play another festival
2) At least if they are still rocking out live somewhere - they are together and the possibility of new music can come from them being connected again
(I stress "possibility" because choosing to be optimistic)

[(t)]

I don't see one festival date interfering with a (theoretical) album release.

[Lord Stan]

I don't see one festival date interfering with a (theoretical) album release.

Probably or possibly it doesn't but if they start touring again they just might go on for couple of years with the same setlist.

[Ginger King]

I don't see one festival date interfering with a (theoretical) album release.

Nothing interferes with releasing an album...except actually wanting to do it.

[cineater]

Probably or possibly it doesn't but if they start touring again they just might go on for couple of years with the same setlist.
[/quote]

If we want to keep Slash from roaming off on his own, GNR has to book tours to keep him.

[sofine11]

I don't see one festival date interfering with a (theoretical) album release.

Nothing interferes with releasing an album...except actually wanting to do it.

Not wrong. Unfortunately GNR are notorious for not being able to do both at the same time.

[Natalie]

When will they announce the line up for this festival?
If it is true, I doubt it will be a one time thing ; they will definitely add more dates in the US.

[russkwtx]

We need to keep in mind that both Slash and Duff have said that the new album will happen when it happens. Slash is touring. Duff just released an album. In other words a new GNR release is not imminent. In fact, it seems clear (to me) that a new GNR album is not the priority now. Thus, playing at one or more festivals probably is going to have limited impact on the timeline.

I think we are back to the "live your lives" situation from the early 2000s.

Patience.

[Executioner]

We need to keep in mind that both Slash and Duff have said that the new album will happen when it happens. Slash is touring. Duff just released an album. In other words a new GNR release is not imminent. In fact, it seems clear (to me) that a new GNR album is not the priority now. Thus, playing at one or more festivals probably is going to have limited impact on the timeline.

I think we are back to the "live your lives" situation from the early 2000s.

Patience.

Both of them are using the same mantra about new GnR material to garner attention for their own albums it's a good marketing ploy any news feeds about them in the last few months is about Guns releasing a new album not about their own solo stuff ,fair enough the media are probably constantly asking them about it and it's a good headline grabber but as far as them working to a specific timeline or with a producer it's not factual to say its gonna happen. Can't see them doing a one off festival it would need to be part of a tour or a few shows and it looks like Slash and Duff are booked up for the year unless Axl gets DJ Ashba and co back on board .

[back to mono]

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-to-perform-at-this-years-louder-than-life-festival-in-september/

[allwaystired]

Well there we go. Back on the road again.

I think we might be very far away from any new material now.

[Natalie]

To be honest since I'm moving to the U.S next month I'm really excited about the prospect of a US tour in the fall lol   We all want new music but you know, they are in their mid 50s, they won't be touring FOREVER; personally I 'd like to attend as many shows as possible. I hope they add shows in other cities but p-l-e-a-s-e NOT festivals!

[D-GenerationX]

Well there we go. Back on the road again.

I think we might be very far away from any new material now.

Yeah, how does "forever" grab ya?

Still think it's good they are doing this though.

[sofine11]

Well there we go. Back on the road again.

I think we might be very far away from any new material now.

Well she-it...

[johnreed3344]

Have to be excited! The fact they are going out there after the NITL Tour is all gravy, would I love a new album? Fuck ya! But lets just enjoy the ride after YEARS of silence.


Never been to Kentucky, who wants to go?!?!?!? 

[Boromir]

Its official 

[cineater]

Woohoo, alive and kicking.

[allwaystired]

Well there we go. Back on the road again.

I think we might be very far away from any new material now.

Well she-it...

There seems to be quite a few people who think they have been writing whilst Slash is busy touring pretty much consistently for some reason. I think they see songs as just being something that are pulled from thin air, or that musicians in their 50s on a busy and tiring touring schedule might go offstage exhausted and get straight to writing songs for another band. There's definitely a contingent who seem to think that a new album will appear out of nowhere within the next few months. That idea is pretty much bonkers.

Realistic expectations here folks: it will be very likely be the same set, and almost 100 per cent won't feature new material. If you've got any other expectations, get rid of them and go along and have fun. Endless unrealistic expectations for months, followed by disappointment when the increasingly wild expectations that have been built up don't happen isn't going to be much fun for anyone.

[Spirit]

So, what do people think? Realistically, do we have a new single before the show?

I think there's a chance.

[cineater]

Well there we go. Back on the road again.

I think we might be very far away from any new material now.

Well she-it...

There seems to be quite a few people who think they have been writing whilst Slash is busy touring pretty much consistently for some reason. I think they see songs as just being something that are pulled from thin air, or that musicians in their 50s on a busy and tiring touring schedule might go offstage exhausted and get straight to writing songs for another band. There's definitely a contingent who seem to think that a new album will appear out of nowhere within the next few months. That idea is pretty much bonkers.

Realistic expectations here folks: it will be very likely be the same set, and almost 100 per cent won't feature new material. If you've got any other expectations, get rid of them and go along and have fun. Endless unrealistic expectations for months, followed by disappointment when the increasingly wild expectations that have been built up don't happen isn't going to be much fun for anyone.

You seem to equate being in your 50's with a certain stereotype.  Having been there and done that, I can tell you sleeping more than 6 hours a night was not needed.  Pretty damn good at multitasking by that age and if you're the active type, you work circles around the younger set who just don't want to do it in the first place.  You don't freak out about being able to do a lot because you had a lot of practice through the years and it's pretty easy to juggle a lot of shit.  Tired and exhausted after stage performance?  I'm thinking charged up.  Have lots of life experience to draw on for content for songs.  Your world is pretty big by then and you have something to say about it. 

I don't know where they are at with new music or plans to release/present it.  I think there's reason to be hopeful and to continue to look to the future.

[allwaystired]

Well there we go. Back on the road again.

I think we might be very far away from any new material now.

Well she-it...

There seems to be quite a few people who think they have been writing whilst Slash is busy touring pretty much consistently for some reason. I think they see songs as just being something that are pulled from thin air, or that musicians in their 50s on a busy and tiring touring schedule might go offstage exhausted and get straight to writing songs for another band. There's definitely a contingent who seem to think that a new album will appear out of nowhere within the next few months. That idea is pretty much bonkers.

Realistic expectations here folks: it will be very likely be the same set, and almost 100 per cent won't feature new material. If you've got any other expectations, get rid of them and go along and have fun. Endless unrealistic expectations for months, followed by disappointment when the increasingly wild expectations that have been built up don't happen isn't going to be much fun for anyone.

You seem to equate being in your 50's with a certain stereotype.  Having been there and done that, I can tell you sleeping more than 6 hours a night was not needed.  Pretty damn good at multitasking by that age and if you're the active type, you work circles around the younger set who just don't want to do it in the first place.  You don't freak out about being able to do a lot because you had a lot of practice through the years and it's pretty easy to juggle a lot of shit.  Tired and exhausted after stage performance?  I'm thinking charged up.  Have lots of life experience to draw on for content for songs.  Your world is pretty big by then and you have something to say about it. 

I don't know where they are at with new music or plans to release/present it.  I think there's reason to be hopeful and to continue to look to the future.

I'd be astonished if working on new music was going on in a hotel room at 1am after a gig.

I'm not going on stereotypes when I say that kids in their 20s have more energy than people in their 50s. It's a fact!

[rebelhipi]

I don't see one festival date interfering with a (theoretical) album release.

Nothing interferes with releasing an album...except actually wanting to do it.

Not wrong. Unfortunately GNR are notorious for not being able to do both at the same time.

Well they were touring/playing some shows while recording Appetite,Lies, Illusions, Spaghetti Incident and Chinese.


They tried to make a record in the mid 90s while not playing shows at all. Not sure how that worked out at the end.

[(t)]

So, what do people think? Realistically, do we have a new single before the show?

I think there's a chance.

Dunno why, but I agree there's a chance. Maybe because it's the first post-'reunion tour' show and it would make sense to have a new reason to play gigs. Maybe it's the rumblings from Duff about new music.

Certainly not a given though.

[dsaddler78]

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[pilferk]

I'd be astonished if working on new music was going on in a hotel room at 1am after a gig.

I'm not going on stereotypes when I say that kids in their 20s have more energy than people in their 50s. It's a fact!

It's actually NOT a fact.

Studies show people in their mid 30s and mid 50s have the most energy.  NOT kids in their 20s. 

And busy people tend to have more energy, in general.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/age-you-most-energy-its-6930938

[pilferk]

So, what do people think? Realistically, do we have a new single before the show?

I think there's a chance.

I think, given the way songs are written now (and music is recorded), this festival doesn't have a whole lot of influence either way.

And I think there is a chance.  I thought so before, and don't think that changes with this announcement.

Am I sure? No.  But I think there's a punchers chance we see something in the next 9 to 12 months. SOMETHING...maybe not a full album, but SOMETHING.

[GypsySoul]

Guns N' Roses @gunsnroses
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[cineater]

I'd be astonished if working on new music was going on in a hotel room at 1am after a gig.

I'm not going on stereotypes when I say that kids in their 20s have more energy than people in their 50s. It's a fact!
[/quote]

I think they pretty much pack up and hit the road to the next place after the gig.  But there are gaps of time between shows when they could be working individually or together on stuff.  There's recording studios all over the world they could have booked a few off days in.

There's a big difference between having tons of energy and endurance.  Yeah my 20 year old had energy.  I think she did.  You know, sleeping 12 hours, a room that looked like a bomb went off and tons of shit she put off, told me her energy wasn't going there.  While I'm up at 6AM, off to a full day of work, getting in a workout afterwards, managing a household and a family, telling myself it's midnight I should get some sleep because I'm doing it all again tomorrow seems like a lot more energy being put out there.  She may have had it but I was the one burning it with a ton of shit getting accomplished.  So I don't agree with that fact.  Hasn't been my experience.

I don't see any of these guys stumbling around on stage and that's after 3 hours. Their fucking workouts would kill me (but that's not to say I couldn't work up to it).  They're GNR, they don't like telling us what they're up to but they are always working.  Maybe not what we want them to give their full time and attention to but there's not enough hours in the day to take care of what they have on their plate.  It's going to take a little time.

[allwaystired]

I'd be astonished if working on new music was going on in a hotel room at 1am after a gig.

I'm not going on stereotypes when I say that kids in their 20s have more energy than people in their 50s. It's a fact!

I think they pretty much pack up and hit the road to the next place after the gig.  But there are gaps of time between shows when they could be working individually or together on stuff.  There's recording studios all over the world they could have booked a few off days in.

There's a big difference between having tons of energy and endurance.  Yeah my 20 year old had energy.  I think she did.  You know, sleeping 12 hours, a room that looked like a bomb went off and tons of shit she put off, told me her energy wasn't going there.  While I'm up at 6AM, off to a full day of work, getting in a workout afterwards, managing a household and a family, telling myself it's midnight I should get some sleep because I'm doing it all again tomorrow seems like a lot more energy being put out there.  She may have had it but I was the one burning it with a ton of shit getting accomplished.  So I don't agree with that fact.  Hasn't been my experience.

I don't see any of these guys stumbling around on stage and that's after 3 hours. Their fucking workouts would kill me (but that's not to say I couldn't work up to it).  They're GNR, they don't like telling us what they're up to but they are always working.  Maybe not what we want them to give their full time and attention to but there's not enough hours in the day to take care of what they have on their plate.  It's going to take a little time.
[/quote]

All true!

I think maybe we do these things as we get older because we HAVE to though, rather than it being an energy thing. I reckon I had more energy when I was younger....but a lot less motivation! Or it's probably that your body slows down, but your mind speeds up as you get older. There's also an element to being as old as you feel too, which is vital. I know people who are like little old men in their 30s, others who are the total opposite. The power of the mind in having energy is way more important than we think in my view.

I think you're right though - it's going to take a little time. My point is really that enough time hasn't elapsed for us to expect new material, and those thinking it will happen at this show are going to be disappointed as a result.

[Vezara]

Why bats instead of guns? Is Kentucky famous for their baseball team? baseball is not popular where I come from...
On the other hand, since the Axl forum chat in 2008-ish, "bats" have a different association in my mind... I guess I have switched to bat time...  

[allwaystired]

I'd be astonished if working on new music was going on in a hotel room at 1am after a gig.

I'm not going on stereotypes when I say that kids in their 20s have more energy than people in their 50s. It's a fact!

It's actually NOT a fact.

Studies show people in their mid 30s and mid 50s have the most energy.  NOT kids in their 20s. 

And busy people tend to have more energy, in general.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/age-you-most-energy-its-6930938

Hmmm.....they're claiming 31 is the most energetic, then we get a "boost" at 55 at the thought of retirement.

I'm a bit suspicious of that personally. It's in The Mirror for a start, and the 'research' is conducted as a survey from a Vitamin firm. Not saying it's not true, more that this particular article and research isn't really worth considering.

There's plenty to say the total opposite: https://www.simplysupplements.co.uk/healthylife/lack-of-energy/why-does-energy-deplete-as-we-age

It's probably derailing the thread a bit though - the point is more that any new material needs way more time than people are giving them, and I'm talking years here, rather than months.

[AdZ]

Why bats instead of guns? Is Kentucky famous for their baseball team? baseball is not popular where I come from...

https://www.slugger.com/en-us

[Executioner]

This is interesting wasn't expecting them to be playing gigs this year surely they must be playing other shows will it be part of a wider tour?,how amazing would it be if it was part of a tour to promote a new album maybe Axl can convince Izzy to come back on board nobody ever expected Slash to ever rejoin so you never know.

[allwaystired]

This is interesting wasn't expecting them to be playing gigs this year surely they must be playing other shows will it be part of a wider tour?,how amazing would it be if it was part of a tour to promote a new album maybe Axl can convince Izzy to come back on board nobody ever expected Slash to ever rejoin so you never know.

Pretty convinced it will be a tour. Doesn't make any sense to get a whole team and crew together for one show. The mail-out also said "first show of 2019", which is pretty telling.

[D-GenerationX]

There seems to be quite a few people who think they have been writing whilst Slash is busy touring pretty much consistently for some reason. I think they see songs as just being something that are pulled from thin air, or that musicians in their 50s on a busy and tiring touring schedule might go offstage exhausted and get straight to writing songs for another band. There's definitely a contingent who seem to think that a new album will appear out of nowhere within the next few months. That idea is pretty much bonkers.

Realistic expectations here folks: it will be very likely be the same set, and almost 100 per cent won't feature new material. If you've got any other expectations, get rid of them and go along and have fun. Endless unrealistic expectations for months, followed by disappointment when the increasingly wild expectations that have been built up don't happen isn't going to be much fun for anyone.

All likely accurate.

Some may dispute it, but only because it's not what they want to hear.  It won't be disputed on merit.

[Ali]

I want new music more than anyone. But, this is how the guys make a living.

And, in the end, after 2+ years together, Axl, Slash and Duff are moving forward together. 5 years ago, this didn't seem possible.

Ali

[pilferk]

I'd be astonished if working on new music was going on in a hotel room at 1am after a gig.

I'm not going on stereotypes when I say that kids in their 20s have more energy than people in their 50s. It's a fact!

It's actually NOT a fact.

Studies show people in their mid 30s and mid 50s have the most energy.  NOT kids in their 20s. 

And busy people tend to have more energy, in general.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/science/age-you-most-energy-its-6930938

Hmmm.....they're claiming 31 is the most energetic, then we get a "boost" at 55 at the thought of retirement.

I'm a bit suspicious of that personally. It's in The Mirror for a start, and the 'research' is conducted as a survey from a Vitamin firm. Not saying it's not true, more that this particular article and research isn't really worth considering.

There's plenty to say the total opposite: https://www.simplysupplements.co.uk/healthylife/lack-of-energy/why-does-energy-deplete-as-we-age

It's probably derailing the thread a bit though - the point is more that any new material needs way more time than people are giving them, and I'm talking years here, rather than months.

I've seen a BUNCH of studies that say: mid 30s and mid 50s.  The mirror one was just the first one that came up on the google fu.

It has to do with metabolism, and life adjustments.  In your early to mid 30's, you are about as healthy and as motivated as you are likely to get. You're also juggling a million things (kids, spouse, work). All that drives energy.

In your mid 50s you are typically still in good health (though everything creaks a little bit in the joints), you aren't chasing your kids around anymore, and you're at your peak, professionally.  Mentally, you're sharp, experienced, and often considered a topic expert in your field (or at least in your job, at your place of employment).  All that drives motivation...and thus energy.  On top of that, as you get older, you just need less sleep. 

I'm just saying: Its not a "fact" that the 20 year olds have more energy.  I run circles around the kids half my age who I am taking classes with (back to school for another degree).  I talk about my typical day and week...and they're worn out just hearing about it (or so they say).  They might be able to stay up later (though I can drink most of them under the table), but I'm up earlier and get a hell of alot more done.  And,honestly, the more I have to do, the more energy I have.  Adrenaline?  IDK.  But still. 

You're right though...off topic.

Suffice to say: I don't think energy levels are going to stop the members of GnR from creating new music.

[Executioner]

It's really down to Axl whether they release new music or not I feel if he said to Slash and Duff guys were doing it they would fall into line  and do it ,I get the reunion tour was a look back at the past and you wouldn't want to be plugging a new album alongside that but now they've done it they have millions of people's attention they should put out something new as they've nothing to lose I can't imagine after doing a 2 year tour of playing the same songs every night they want to go back over that again hopefully that's what's going on in their heads.

[allwaystired]

It's really down to Axl whether they release new music or not I feel if he said to Slash and Duff guys were doing it they would fall into line  and do it ,I get the reunion tour was a look back at the past and you wouldn't want to be plugging a new album alongside that but now they've done it they have millions of people's attention they should put out something new as they've nothing to lose I can't imagine after doing a 2 year tour of playing the same songs every night they want to go back over that again hopefully that's what's going on in their heads.

It's just about managing expectations; it will nore than likely be the same show. Go along with that attitude and it will be great. Go along expecting an all new set with new material, and you'll probably leave feeling let down. If you adopt the former attitude, you can't lose. The latter may well lead to being pissed off and annoyed.

[COMAMOTIVE]

Maybe..maybe..if after the tour they went silent and dark and it was very quiet...then I'd have some hope that this band was working on a new album
Instead we get Slash doing his thing, Duff doing his...some cryptic comments about new songs, Axl's vault - very similar to the stuff we've heard from Ashba, Fortus and everyone over the past decade..and it turned into squat

No reason to expect anything - if they tour near me I'm going because it's a great show
Otherwise - whatever

[Ginger King]

It's really down to Axl whether they release new music or not I feel if he said to Slash and Duff guys were doing it they would fall into line  and do it ,I get the reunion tour was a look back at the past and you wouldn't want to be plugging a new album alongside that but now they've done it they have millions of people's attention they should put out something new as they've nothing to lose I can't imagine after doing a 2 year tour of playing the same songs every night they want to go back over that again hopefully that's what's going on in their heads.

BINGO!

[axlvai]

So, what do people think? Realistically, do we have a new single before the show?

I think there's a chance.

Maybe a TERMINATOR single? Like the old times?

 

[ITARocker]

So, what do people think? Realistically, do we have a new single before the show?

I think there's a chance.

Maybe a TERMINATOR single? Like the old times?

 

Yep it would be a good thing...

You know...I'd be happy if they would just put out 1 song... I mean 2 years of touring and we haven't a fuckin live dvd or official video of a live performance, and that would be the easiest thing to do...They made 500.000.000 $ and they don't do shit  C'mon Axl wake up a little bit, don't miss another train 

[Lord Stan]

So, what do people think? Realistically, do we have a new single before the show?

I think there's a chance.

Maybe a TERMINATOR single? Like the old times?

 

Something like that would be great. I spent that summer in England and came back with the single. My brother asked what is this but we had a new CD player so we found out.

Please, give us something, like the old times. Been there and done that the same set list.

[Natalie]

Line up:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwAHd7lljvh/

+"first show of 2019", so I guess more dates coming 

[pilferk]

Line up:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwAHd7lljvh/

+"first show of 2019", so I guess more dates coming 

That Saturday line up is KILLER.  I'd love to see GnR, Godsmack, Halestorm and STP in one fell swoop.

Ugh.....but Kentucky.  I just can't swing that in September.  Too much going on at work.

[allwaystired]

Are there many other festivals around in September/October for them to play?

Most of the festivals in Europe have wrapped up by late August.

[rizzo160]

Did anyone see the article about Izzy getting back with GNR at the festival.  According to their original manager he thinks Izzy will be back.
Read it on Facebook.

[allwaystired]

Did anyone see the article about Izzy getting back with GNR at the festival.  According to their original manager he thinks Izzy will be back.
Read it on Facebook.

It was Alan Niven speculating in an interview with Mitch Lafon, reported by Alternative Nation. The fact those three things are involved should be enough to treat the 'story' with the cynicism it deserves! All three parties have a long history of being unreliable in regards to GNR information.

[Executioner]

It's definitely a possibility Izzy is so unpredictable nobody expected him to turn up on stage with them in 93 after walking out the previous  year and then his cameo appearances in 2012 at several shows.Him and Axl always seemed to have a real friendship whereas Axl seemed to treat the rest of them as just fellow musicians, as great as the reunion tour was there seemed very little chemistry on stage .Slash mentioned in his book he could no longer deal with Axl when Izzy left as he was close to him and was the only one who could get through to him.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

I saw the Izzy story ( if you can call it that) a few days ago. I think the most we could expect is for him to drop in for a couple songs like he had in the past.

[jarmo]

Amazing how people who aren't involved with the band are the experts.... Anyone here, with or without a fax machine, could make the same guesses.




/jarmo

[Natalie]

There is a rumor floating around that Guns will be playing in a festival in Tennessee in mid-October. exit festival or smth like that

[PermissionToLand]

There's a big difference between having tons of energy and endurance.  Yeah my 20 year old had energy.  I think she did.  You know, sleeping 12 hours, a room that looked like a bomb went off and tons of shit she put off, told me her energy wasn't going there.  While I'm up at 6AM, off to a full day of work, getting in a workout afterwards, managing a household and a family, telling myself it's midnight I should get some sleep because I'm doing it all again tomorrow seems like a lot more energy being put out there.  She may have had it but I was the one burning it with a ton of shit getting accomplished.  So I don't agree with that fact.  Hasn't been my experience.

Um, you realize those are red flags for clinical depression, right?

I'm just saying: Its not a "fact" that the 20 year olds have more energy.  I run circles around the kids half my age who I am taking classes with (back to school for another degree).  I talk about my typical day and week...and they're worn out just hearing about it (or so they say).  They might be able to stay up later (though I can drink most of them under the table), but I'm up earlier and get a hell of alot more done.  And,honestly, the more I have to do, the more energy I have.  Adrenaline?  IDK.  But still. 

You're right though...off topic.

Suffice to say: I don't think energy levels are going to stop the members of GnR from creating new music.

I think what you're missing are the studies that show teens and young adults need more sleep than anyone else and have naturally later sleep cycles and yet have to get up early for classes while trying to maintain a social life at night. That is what saps energy. High school is the worst; we set it up in America so that the oldest students get up the earliest, which is the opposite of how their sleep cycles work. We set them up for failure with our stubborn refusal to change tradition based on new information, and then berate them for not meeting standards that we never met at their age anyway.

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/articles/teens-and-sleep

[pilferk]

There's a big difference between having tons of energy and endurance.  Yeah my 20 year old had energy.  I think she did.  You know, sleeping 12 hours, a room that looked like a bomb went off and tons of shit she put off, told me her energy wasn't going there.  While I'm up at 6AM, off to a full day of work, getting in a workout afterwards, managing a household and a family, telling myself it's midnight I should get some sleep because I'm doing it all again tomorrow seems like a lot more energy being put out there.  She may have had it but I was the one burning it with a ton of shit getting accomplished.  So I don't agree with that fact.  Hasn't been my experience.

Um, you realize those are red flags for clinical depression, right?

I'm just saying: Its not a "fact" that the 20 year olds have more energy.  I run circles around the kids half my age who I am taking classes with (back to school for another degree).  I talk about my typical day and week...and they're worn out just hearing about it (or so they say).  They might be able to stay up later (though I can drink most of them under the table), but I'm up earlier and get a hell of alot more done.  And,honestly, the more I have to do, the more energy I have.  Adrenaline?  IDK.  But still. 

You're right though...off topic.

Suffice to say: I don't think energy levels are going to stop the members of GnR from creating new music.

I think what you're missing are the studies that show teens and young adults need more sleep than anyone else and have naturally later sleep cycles and yet have to get up early for classes while trying to maintain a social life at night. That is what saps energy. High school is the worst; we set it up in America so that the oldest students get up the earliest, which is the opposite of how their sleep cycles work. We set them up for failure with our stubborn refusal to change tradition based on new information, and then berate them for not meeting standards that we never met at their age anyway.

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/articles/teens-and-sleep

Except...this is online, all classes are at 5PM or later (Eastern Time), with 10 week semesters (you take 2 to 3 classes a semester).

I'm up at 5:30 AM...work 45 hours+ a week...have 3 kiddos in their teens that I play taxi dad for (and actually participate in their lives) AND am taking a full course load (with a 4.0 GPA, I might add....of course, its on material, and in an industry, I've been working in/around for almost 3 decades).  And that isn't even the half of what I do in a given week. We own a home, we have an active social life, and I'm an avid gamer (both video and tabletop). My day usually ends around 11 PM.  6.5 hours of sleep, M-F, and usually around 8 on the weekends (we're up later Friday and Saturday..but we "sleep in".  And I feel GREAT. WITHOUT caffeine (gave it up about a year ago). 

As you get older, you also need less sleep...and I have WAY more energy than I did in my 20's.  Back then, as the studies show, I was up later...but slept a LOT longer!  I get way more accomplished, at this age, too. Sure, part of that is motivation and "have to do it".  But I'm rarely lacking energy these days.  I couldn't say that in my 30s, even, when our kids were younger.

I don't disagree with the sleep cycle thing, especially for High School students. I see the zombie eyes every morning in our living room!  But in this case, for my anecdote, it's irrelevant.  Nobody is having their sleep schedules interrupted for the classes I'm in!  It's literally PERFECTLY tailored to the YA biorithems.

[cineater]

There is a rumor floating around that Guns will be playing in a festival in Tennessee in mid-October. exit festival or smth like that

Saw that.  I'm thinking Austin City Limits is also a possibility since the promoters have a connection.

[Natalie]

There is a rumor floating around that Guns will be playing in a festival in Tennessee in mid-October. exit festival or smth like that

Saw that.  I'm thinking Austin City Limits is also a possibility since the promoters have a connection.

Are there many more rock festivals in October in the States? I hope they add their own shows too, not just festivals. I learnt my lesson in last year's Download fest

[cineater]

There is a rumor floating around that Guns will be playing in a festival in Tennessee in mid-October. exit festival or smth like that

Saw that.  I'm thinking Austin City Limits is also a possibility since the promoters have a connection.

Are there many more rock festivals in October in the States? I hope they add their own shows too, not just festivals. I learnt my lesson in last year's Download fest

Mostly jam band type stuff in October.  These were the only two I thought GNR might hit.

[Lord Stan]

I took a little break listening to this band but now I'm waiting at home to be somewhere else in the evening. So I decided to put on a full concert from this tour.

Oh My God, did I miss this but it still doesn't mean they could do the same set list once again

[jarmo]

Set times:



Saturday, September 28

Barrel Stage
   

8:30 PM - 11:30PM: Guns N’ Roses
6:30 PM - 7:30PM: Ice Cube
4:45 PM - 5:30PM: Dropkick Murphys
3:10 PM - 3:45PM: Suicidal Tendencies
2:00 PM - 2:30PM: Anti-Flag
1:00 PM - 1:30PM: Dirty Honey
12:00 PM - 12:30PM: Amigo The Devil





/jarmo

[PermissionToLand]

Set times:



Saturday, September 28

Barrel Stage
   

8:30 PM - 11:30PM: Guns N’ Roses
6:30 PM - 7:30PM: Ice Cube
4:45 PM - 5:30PM: Dropkick Murphys
3:10 PM - 3:45PM: Suicidal Tendencies
2:00 PM - 2:30PM: Anti-Flag
1:00 PM - 1:30PM: Dirty Honey
12:00 PM - 12:30PM: Amigo The Devil

Any chance we'll get a live stream?

[jarmo]

Has this festival done that in the past?




/jarmo

[PermissionToLand]

Has this festival done that in the past?




/jarmo

I have no clue. I thought you might. A quick Youtube search suggests not. 

[jarmo]

duff_louisville190928 by Jarmo Luukkonen, on Flickr

slash_louisville190928 by Jarmo Luukkonen, on Flickr

richard_louisville190928 by Jarmo Luukkonen, on Flickr

dizzy_louisville190928 by Jarmo Luukkonen, on Flickr





/jarmo

[cineater]

Dizzy 

Yeah he's got himself a little fort up there.

[D]

This was an incredible performance and festival. Absolutely packed