Weiland ordered back into lockdown rehab (was: Say it isn't so)

[Dizzy]

But by the time they did sober up Axl and Slash weren't speaking to each other.

Slash sobered up after the UYI tour.  He and Axl didn't stop speaking until 1996.

.Duff hung around for another year then he left.

Actually, Duff's pancreas exploded on May 10, 1994.  So he sobered up right after that, but didn't quit the band until 1997.

. And I think I was the first
one to say that, and that little shit stole it from me!

That little bastard!    Should I kill him now or should I wait for you to arrive so you can spit on him during the bloody scene?  

[GypsySoul]

Gypsy note #1:  Since this Total Guitar article was written prior to Scott's last court appearance, I'm also posting an "ordered back to rehab" article that was posted on a music news site (this site lists his next court date as February 5th as opposed to the March 5th date that mtv listed).

Note #2:  I'm not a lawyer but I believe that if "drunk driving" was cited on the arrest report for the birthday arrest and he tested negative for alcohol, then just like his VR website rant & his court plea said, he would be "not guilty" of this charge.  However, I also believe the actual charge was DUI (driving under the influence) which includes BOTH drugs & alcohol.  If DUI is the charge and he tested positive for drugs then he's guilty as charged.

TOTAL GUITAR #118 JANUARY 2004
MONITOR
APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION
DRUG PROBLEMS DEAL SLASH'S NEW BAND YET ANOTHER BLOW

The future of Guns N' Roses' comeback group Velvet Revolver is once again in doubt, following the arrest of singer Scott Weiland on drink-driving charges.  Weiland has been ordered by the authorities to undergo a six-month live-in rehab program - meaning the band's long-awaited debut album has now been put back indefinitely.

According to the ruling, the ex-Stone Temple Pilots vocalist will be allowed to join his bandmates in the recording studio for just a few hours each day, and will be accompanied by a police office at all times.  It's a devastating setback for the group, who were thought to be close to completing their album.  Plans had already been made for a UK visit, and they'd already had a song, Set Me Free, featured on the soundtrack to Hollywood blockbuster The Hulk.

The news will also come as a bitter disappointment for GN'R fans, many of whom were hoping Velvet Revolver - which was formed last year by ex-GN'R members Slash, Duff McKagan and Matt Sorum - would go on to recapture the raw rock spirit of the band's classic 1987 album Appetite For Destruction.

But if Slash and co had imagined their new frontman would be any less temperamental than their previous singer Axl Rose, they've been proved wrong time and again.  Last August, Weiland was sentenced to three years probation after pleading no contest to one count of possessing heroin.  In 1999 he was jailed after failing to complete a drug rehabilitation program.  And in 2001 he was arrested in Las Vegas on a domestic violence charge involving his wife.

Neither is this the first bit of bad news Slash has received this month.  In a recent Rolling Stone survey of the 100 greatest guitarists, he didn't get a mention - even though relatively obscure names such as Greg Ginn of Black Flag and Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band received lavish praise.

But despite his problems, Slash still maintains the Velvet Revolver record will be a "great rock'n'roll album" when it emerges.  And before his arrest Weiland himself gave the following insight into the new material:  "There are dark plodding tracks on here.  And there are songs that are real fast, like a freight train fuelled with Bacardi 151."

Let's hope we get to hear them one day.
end quote

from MSN Music News posted on Jan 25, 2004
Weiland Ordered Back to Rehab

Stone Temple Pilots lead singer Scott Weiland was ordered to return to a live-in drug detoxification center after leaving early, officials said.

Weiland, 36 was ordered to report to the facility last October after pleading no contest to possession of heroin. A Superior Court judge learned Friday that he had walked out or was discharged after only a month and ordered him to return, said Jane Robison, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County district attorney's office.

Weiland reported back to the facility Friday afternoon.

He is eligible for release in July but must participate in a six-month follow-up program.

If he leaves the center again or tests positive for drugs, prosecutors will seek a warrant for his arrest, Robison said.

Weiland was jailed in 1999 for violating probation on a previous drug arrest and failing to complete a rehabilitation program.

In a separate case, attorneys for Weiland entered an innocent plea for the singer's misdemeanor count of driving under the influence, stemming from his arrest last October in Hollywood.

He is due back in court on that case on Feb. 5.
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[jarmo]

Weiland's Representatives Attempt To 'Clarify' Recent News Reports

Representatives for VELVET REVOLVER singer Scott Weiland issued the following statement Monday (Feb. 2) clarifying recent news reports about his recovery process, his legal status and plans for the future.

"Recent news reports stated that the VELVET REVOLVER frontman (and former STONE TEMPLE PILOTS singer) had walked out of, or was discharged from, a Pasadena, California recovery facility after one month. Although Weiland did move to a sober living facility, it was at the suggestion and approval of his doctors and recovery counselors.

"Mike Nasatir, a Weiland attorney, says, 'We were under the impression that Scott's move was not against the court's wishes and that Scott was in compliance with the court's orders.'

"Dr. Drew Pinsky, Weiland's primary recovery specialist and head of Las Encinas Hospital's Chemical Dependency Program, said, 'We felt that Scott completed detox by achieving the goals we set for him. He struggled diligently against a bad disease and we felt it was time for him to go to a lower level of care. It was time for him to return into the sober community and get back to the basics of sobriety while he pursued other treatment, which is a long treatment ? something that will take months and months ? but that doesn't require a hospital. It is unclear to me what is to be gained by putting him back in an in-patient environment. I am not clear that this is a good use of resources for this patient.'

"Weiland has been complying with the court order as the court acknowledged in his January 9 progress report. Weiland, according to his attorneys, has not abused illegal drugs or alcohol and is under his doctor's care. Scott continues to proactively and successfully address mental health issues, which have an organic neuropsychological basis and are pharmacologically treatable.

"Weiland wants nothing more than to successfully comply with the court's orders, continue his sobriety in the community, work with his bandmates and ultimately be reunited with his wife and children."
   
 
Source(s): http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/    
   
Thanks to: Joachim



/jarmo

[DoubleTalkinJiveMF]

"Dr. Drew Pinsky, Weiland's primary recovery specialist and head of Las Encinas Hospital's Chemical Dependency Program, said, 'We felt that Scott completed detox by achieving the goals we set for him. He struggled diligently against a bad disease and we felt it was time for him to go to a lower level of care. It was time for him to return into the sober community and get back to the basics of sobriety while he pursued other treatment, which is a long treatment ? something that will take months and months ? but that doesn't require a hospital. It is unclear to me what is to be gained by putting him back in an in-patient environment. I am not clear that this is a good use of resources for this patient."

Isn't that the same Dr. Drew that had that MTV sex talk show with Adam Corolla??  That guy is pretty cool and seems really intelligent so thats really cool.

Everything is up in the air once again about what is going to happen with Scott Weiland and Velvet Revolver.  

[GypsySoul]

"Mike Nasatir, a Weiland attorney, says, 'We were under the impression that Scott's move was not against the court's wishes and that Scott was in compliance with the court's orders.'

@Nasatir - Do you think the judge is an idiot?  Just because you talked your druggie client into moving to another facility after he walked out of the first court ordered one, doesn't mean it complies with the order.  

"Dr. Drew Pinsky, Weiland's primary recovery specialist .... "It is unclear to me what is to be gained by putting him back in an in-patient environment. I am not clear that this is a good use of resources for this patient."

@Pinsky - Maybe if you take into consideration the fact that your patient was caught smuggling drugs into rehab it might make things a little clearer for you.  

@Scott - Do yourself a favor and get a better lawyer and doctor.  
GET WELL SOON!!!  

[Booker Floyd]

@Nasatir - Do you think the judge is an idiot?  Just because you talked your druggie client into moving to another facility after he walked out of the first court ordered one, doesn't mean it complies with the order.  

I doubt you know the full details of what is going on, so maybe its best to act like you do.  I would assume that if Weiland was breaking a court-mandated order, he would be punished, and it seems (based on this release) as if the opposite is taking place.

@Pinsky - Maybe if you take into consideration the fact that your patient was caught smuggling drugs into rehab it might make things a little clearer for you.  

Please inform me on what reliable source has confirmed that Weiland was caught smuggling drugs, because Ive yet to see one.

@Scott - Do yourself a favor and get a better lawyer and doctor.  
GET WELL SOON!!!  

@Gypsy - Dont posture as a know-it-all when you really have little-to-no clue.

[GypsySoul]

@Pinsky - Maybe if you take into consideration the fact that your patient was caught smuggling drugs into rehab it might make things a little clearer for you.  

Please inform me on what reliable source has confirmed that Weiland was caught smuggling drugs, because Ive yet to see one.

If you play the title track from Velvet Revolver's debut album "Contraband" backwards and at high-speed, you'll hear a subliminal messge from Scott saying "I tried to smuggle drugs into rehab and got caught."
Reliable enough a source?  
[lmao]


P.S.  I wasn't trying to "posture".  The point of my post was that IMO Scott is getting very bad legal advice and medical treatment.  

[Jizzo]

Funny since we've heard nothing about a titletrack.  

[D]

the m ain thing is this, no one can get scott weiland off drugs but scott weiland

slash cant do it, duff cant do it, rehab cant do it, scott is the only one who can do it for himself, till he is 100 percent ready it will never work

[GypsySoul]

@Nasatir - Do you think the judge is an idiot?  Just because you talked your druggie client into moving to another facility after he walked out of the first court ordered one, doesn't mean it complies with the order.  

I doubt you know the full details of what is going on, so maybe its best to act like you do.  I would assume that if Weiland was breaking a court-mandated order, he would be punished, and it seems (based on this release) as if the opposite is taking place.

@Pinsky - Maybe if you take into consideration the fact that your patient was caught smuggling drugs into rehab it might make things a little clearer for you.  

Please inform me on what reliable source has confirmed that Weiland was caught smuggling drugs, because Ive yet to see one.

@Scott - Do yourself a favor and get a better lawyer and doctor.  
GET WELL SOON!!!  

@Gypsy - Dont posture as a know-it-all when you really have little-to-no clue.

Source:  Classic ROCK (mag) February 2004 Issue 63
VIEW FROM THE BAR (page 18)
quote
Alas, it seems that VELVET REVOLVER frontman SCOTT WEILAND has been up to no good, even when in rehab.  Current reports emanating from the States at the time of writing suggest he's been caught trying to smuggle illegal substances into rehab!  That seems like pushing things, even for the ex-STONE TEMPLE PILOTS singer, but alas a management insider sadly let slip that the rumours are true.  From AXL to WEILAND, SLASH and co must be wondering what they've done to deserve such problems.
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Sources:  http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=952  and  www.mtv.com
quote
Though Scott Weiland was due in court Wednesday (February 18) to address charges of driving under the influence of drugs, the singer had his representative ask for a continuance, which was granted, since he just changed lawyers. Weiland is now due in court on Monday, when paperwork for the change of counsel will have to be submitted.
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Gypsy note:  I added the bold to the above two quotes but the words are direct quotes from the sources mentioned.

Gypsy comment:  GET WELL SOON, SCOTT  

[Jizzo]

Hopefully everything ends up well for Scott on monday

[starchild_666]

when is the closes court for Scott?

[Jizzo]

I hope we hear something today

[GypsySoul]

This was posted on blabbermouth.net on February 23, 2004

SCOTT WEILAND Gets DUI Trial Date
 
According to MTV.com, VELVET REVOLVER singer Scott Weiland (ex-STONE TEMPLE PILOTS) finally got a trial date for his drug charges. The singer will stand trial for his charge of driving while under the influence of drugs starting March 15, according to the Los Angeles city attorney's office.

VELVET REVOLVER's debut CD, "Contraband", is scheduled for release on May 18 through RCA Records. First single "Slither" will be delivered March 23 to U.S. rock radio outlets for airplay consideration. Among the other tracks set for inclusion are "Sucker Train Blues", "Fall To Pieces", "Super Human", "You Got No Right", "Set Me Free" and "Headspace".