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Title: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Irishlad on March 02, 2006, 09:09:11 AM
New guns n' roses - Mr BRownstone studio version, found in GN'R News

http://www.gunsreincarnated.tk
http://gunsreincarnate.bbfun.com/gunsreincarnate-forum-1.html

this bitch aint no hoarder

(delete topic if this track isnt allowed)


Title changed by Ignatius.-


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 09:12:43 AM
EDIT: sounded legit, its just a different mix, still good .


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 02, 2006, 09:13:58 AM
u sure? axl really sounds like in old days..


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: GS67 on March 02, 2006, 09:14:15 AM
cool, thx
are there more from that session?


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 09:14:41 AM
u sure? axl really sounds like in old days..

yes he does, but if this sint the afd demo or the live era track then what is it???? :yes:


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 02, 2006, 09:15:17 AM
where does it come from?


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 09:15:38 AM
cool, thx
are there more from that session?
nope, the disk only came with irs and this track.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Pingouirose on March 02, 2006, 09:16:30 AM
direct link please ?   :P


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 02, 2006, 09:16:47 AM
http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1X9XS0MFLFACX24KP9XR30ZSMR


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 09:16:51 AM
where does it come from?
someone sent it. im at school right now, so like i'll copy and paste the pm later ?:P


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: 1badapple on March 02, 2006, 09:16:56 AM
you're welcome guys!!


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Pingouirose on March 02, 2006, 09:18:15 AM
http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1X9XS0MFLFACX24KP9XR30ZSMR

Thank you :)


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 09:18:22 AM
you're welcome guys!!

lol, tell them how u got it dude. i didnt believe it at first


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: WARose on March 02, 2006, 09:20:04 AM
is this really a new version?? it doesn`t sound really different....


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Grouse on March 02, 2006, 09:20:15 AM
hmm interesting, this doesn't sound like Axl well not how he sings these days that is.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Dont Try Me on March 02, 2006, 09:21:01 AM
it doesn't sound like Fortus, or Finck is playing at all.........

nice demo, so thanks for that!

But it ain New Gn'r



Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 09:22:56 AM
i cant tell


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 02, 2006, 09:23:14 AM
fortus wasnt even in the band back then, neither was bucket, was finck?


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: echrisl on March 02, 2006, 09:23:46 AM
i cant tell

You can, you just aren't.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: WARose on March 02, 2006, 09:23:58 AM
it sounds like a different mix of the old stuff to me......  georg marino 2005?


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Dont Try Me on March 02, 2006, 09:24:27 AM
fortus wasnt even in the band back then, neither was bucket, was finck?

true....but finck was tho I think........still it sounds more like the old line-up.....



Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: WARose on March 02, 2006, 09:24:58 AM
i?d love having all gnr tracks in that kind of mix....


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 09:25:17 AM
eh?. school starts now  :peace:.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: echrisl on March 02, 2006, 09:26:02 AM

Thanks.  That's awesome.  Very helpful.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Janabis on March 02, 2006, 09:27:11 AM
I really think this is a remix of the old GNR.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: echrisl on March 02, 2006, 09:28:06 AM
One thing is for damn sure, that is not Finck playing guitar.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: pilferk on March 02, 2006, 09:32:11 AM
Remix and Remaster? Perhaps part of GH2?

:)

I mean, wasn't one of the real beefs about GH was that it WASN'T remastered?

Hmmmm...


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: debonbon27 on March 02, 2006, 09:35:42 AM
OMG! Haha, I was just looking for this version yesterday,  I guarantee this is old. I had this version on tape in 1992, but i lost the tape, my friend and I always loved the rawness of it, I wish the whole album sounded like that. Im a long time lurker here I just never post. I was about to start a request thread for this very song (version) haha. I am very happy.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: echrisl on March 02, 2006, 09:37:38 AM
Yeah, it's clearly not New GNR's rerecording ... you people love to play your stupid fucking games, don't you?

Well I don't find you very amusing.  Fuck off.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Origen on March 02, 2006, 09:39:56 AM
u sure? axl really sounds like in old days..

That's because Axl and his new band re-recorded Appetite in 1999 so his voice was probably like it used to be then.

They re-recorded then entire album and took out "You're Crazy" & "Anything Goes" and replaced them with "You Could Be Mine" & "Patience"

Axl said the album sounded very 80s so he wanted to re-recorded with todays technology and his new band.

Whether or not this is from that version . . . . .


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: LordRazZ on March 02, 2006, 09:40:12 AM
And somewhere in this world, someone's life is completely destroyed by a practical joke.

And Jesus kills a kitten.

The horror of it all.


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: DazRose85 on March 02, 2006, 09:40:17 AM
It's a different mix of the original version. I can't remember where it originated (US promo?) but this upload is better quality than the last one I had.


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: kaasupoltin on March 02, 2006, 09:40:44 AM
I'm not sure, but I think that I have this one on a vinyl ::) Sounds great!


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Steve McKagan on March 02, 2006, 09:42:09 AM
Could this be the version from the It's So Easy single?


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: 1badapple on March 02, 2006, 09:42:43 AM
i never claimed it to be 100% legit. that's why i sent it to frozen to have it checked out. i didn't wanna be posting something, only to find out that it was something else.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: oldgunsfan on March 02, 2006, 09:43:13 AM
I really think this is a remix of the old GNR.

The title is Brownstone_1999 so I don't think it';s the original band


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: echrisl on March 02, 2006, 09:44:02 AM
I really think this is a remix of the old GNR.

The title is Brownstone_1999 so I don't think it';s the original band

That's just what whoever typed it in called it.


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Origen on March 02, 2006, 09:44:13 AM
The lineup in 1999 was:

Josh Freese on drums
Tommy Stinson on bass
Paul Tobias on guitar
Robin Finck was on lead guitar


But Robin had left the band at that time to rejoin NIN Axl wasn't sure what he was going to do with his guitar parts only that some of them would still be on the rework of Appetite.


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Neemo on March 02, 2006, 09:45:08 AM
it's the orig band remixed, sounds almost identical to the orig to me apart from the intro

Could this be the version from the It's So Easy single?

very possible

alexander/almost famous from MyGnR would know : ok:


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: debonbon27 on March 02, 2006, 09:45:13 AM
If you listen to the very end it's deffinately off vinyl. : ok:


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Oh My Choking Soul on March 02, 2006, 09:45:19 AM
nice


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Locomotive98 on March 02, 2006, 09:46:35 AM
Doesnt sound much different to me. Still its always great to hear this. its my fave GNR tune....

Nice to know though that good old Axl spent so much time re-recording an album that couldnt be bettered, whilst we wait here, years down the line, for a new one.....

Timewaster? Surely not....

Cheers


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Origen on March 02, 2006, 09:47:59 AM
Doesnt sound much different to me. Still its always great to hear this. its my fave GNR tune....

Nice to know though that good old Axl spent so much time re-recording an album that couldnt be bettered, whilst we wait here, years down the line, for a new one.....

Timewaster? Surely not....

Cheers

Because he did different takes like all bands do while recording the song.

Timewaster ? Surely yes


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Locomotive98 on March 02, 2006, 09:50:49 AM
No I meant the re-recording of Appetite he did with the new 'GnR'....

Why bother?


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Origen on March 02, 2006, 09:55:05 AM
No I meant the re-recording of Appetite he did with the new 'GnR'....

Why bother?

Why re-record Appetite ? I don't know I asked the same thing here the other day.

Someone said it would help them play the songs better live (which I don't understand how) that's what rehearsals are for, and what about the Illusion songs they played live, they didn't  re-record the Illusion albums but they were still able to play the songs live.


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Shaft on March 02, 2006, 09:56:04 AM
Sweet Child O' Mine is re-registered too right?


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Locomotive98 on March 02, 2006, 09:57:34 AM
Read somewhere it was so he could release the AFD songs for soundtracks etc without having having to pay Slash etc royalties. Seems a bit wankerish to me.... But I really wouldnt be surprised.....


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: anythinggoes on March 02, 2006, 10:04:18 AM
could it be anything to do with this

GUNS N ROSES CD MISTA BROWNSTONE UNRELEASED ALAN NIVEN! LIVE STONES ALICE COOPER ORIGINAL MIX MISTA BROWNSTONE
DETAILS:
SALT OFF THE EARTH WITH THE ROLLING STONES (recorded at the Trump Plaza Atlantic City 1989)
UNDER MY WHEELS WITH ALICE COOPER (recorded at the Long Beach Arena in 1987)
MISTA BROWNSTONE---the original mix by Alan Niven and Michael Lardie (mixed at Total Access Redondo Beach in 1987. This was the first song from "The Appetite Sessions" to get an accepted mix!

http://cgi.ebay.com/GUNS-N-ROSES-GREAT-WHITE-ALAN-NIVEN-PKG-RIAA-CD-LP-ELVI_W0QQitemZ7583516282QQcategoryZ53261QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: WARose on March 02, 2006, 10:29:12 AM
http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0XWQPXN6GM4TL3K5XFBB3IN66T


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Neemo on March 02, 2006, 11:01:45 AM
http://members.aol.com/gunsnflowers2/Disc_easy.htm

UK 7" vinyl Promo 1987

GEF 22 (DJ)
Gef? 22 A 928 313-7

1)It's so easy (censored version)
2)Mr. Brownstone (different guitar mix)

I'll bet it's this : ok:

which would make it an official track. so no links please :P


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: WARose on March 02, 2006, 11:19:53 AM
http://members.aol.com/gunsnflowers2/Disc_easy.htm

UK 7" vinyl Promo 1987

GEF 22 (DJ)
Gef  22 A 928 313-7

1)It's so easy (censored version)
2)Mr. Brownstone (different guitar mix)

I'll bet it's this : ok:

which would make it an official track. so no links please :P

fortunately i got it!

it`s superior to the appetite version imo...  sounds the way all old gnr songs ought to : ok:


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: life_247 on March 02, 2006, 12:09:52 PM
Strange thing is it sounds very modern there are also no backing vocals (that you can properly hear).

This doesn't sound like it came from a tape recording set up - also there is no reverb on the drums like axl said in rs 99. Furthermore it doesn't sound like duff on bass.


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Neemo on March 02, 2006, 12:36:41 PM
Strange thing is it sounds very modern there are also no backing vocals (that you can properly hear).

This doesn't sound like it came from a tape recording set up - also there is no reverb on the drums like axl said in rs 99. Furthermore it doesn't sound like duff on bass.

bound and determined huh? :hihi:

if that's not izzy at 1:18-1:35 & 2:42-2:59, and if the music after the intro isn't identical to the version on AFD then i have never heard that album. I can hear the backing vocals out of crappy computer speakers with no headphones and the volume turned down low, how can you not hear it? And I highly doubt Axl could redo that low voice of his from 20 years ago. If he can, sweet, but i don't think so.

Face it, this is a remix of the orig tune, prolly most definately by that Alan Niven dude.

Story over. Sorry, no post-1995 GnR here :no:


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Neemo on March 02, 2006, 12:39:18 PM
another thing if it was Nu-GnR don't you think the solo would be a crazy buckethead one like on the 2002 tour and not a carbon copy of Slash's?


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Neemo on March 02, 2006, 12:54:05 PM
Also Axl uses different vocal patterns on that tune than he did in the 80's

Biggest one "worryin's a waste of my "FUCKING" time"

and Robins voice is way more raspy than the backup vocals are on that track. I take back the buckethead solo thing, robin does that one and he pretty much plays Slash's note for note, i had Brownstone confused with Nightrain :confused: sorry.

Last point, they didn't use the cheesy guitar ending in 2002 either :P

Here's Mr. Brownstone from RioIII to compare
Mr Brownstone - RIR3 (http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2I1HKPW64FB093FX1QI8CWO16D)



Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 01:34:44 PM
Yeah, it's clearly not New GNR's rerecording ... you people love to play your stupid fucking games, don't you?

Well I don't find you very amusing.? Fuck off.
it was obviously a mistake and atleast we shared. fuck off.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: Neemo on March 02, 2006, 01:52:21 PM
it was obviously a mistake and atleast we shared. fuck off.

Hey I'm quite happy, and if i didn't say it before, then thankyou guys, you rock : ok: :beer:


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: echrisl on March 02, 2006, 04:37:55 PM
Yeah, it's clearly not New GNR's rerecording ... you people love to play your stupid fucking games, don't you?

Well I don't find you very amusing.  Fuck off.
it was obviously a mistake and atleast we shared. fuck off.

It was a mistake that you changed the name to include 1999 and then acted like you couldn't reveal the super-secret source you got it from?  Mmmhmm.  I'll bet.

Just for my personal edification, are you deaf as well?  Because it really shouldn't be all that hard to determine that this is not New GNR if you actually listened to the track ...

Just to follow what has become the traditional back-and forth message ending between the two of us in this thread ... fuck off.


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: WAR41 on March 02, 2006, 05:32:03 PM
its legit  8)
i'll tell yall how i got it later. that is IF that person wants to be mentioned... :hihi:

ummmmm..... so how did you get this oh so rare song?


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: echrisl on March 02, 2006, 05:35:12 PM
its legit  8)
i'll tell yall how i got it later. that is IF that person wants to be mentioned... :hihi:

ummmmm..... so how did you get this oh so rare song?

Dammit!  He can't let the secret slip now!  Are you crazy man?


Title: Re: somethin New and maybe Rare (link)
Post by: WAR41 on March 02, 2006, 05:40:27 PM
its legit  8)
i'll tell yall how i got it later. that is IF that person wants to be mentioned... :hihi:

ummmmm..... so how did you get this oh so rare song?

Dammit!  He can't let the secret slip now!  Are you crazy man?

That is true... I still need to hear the new GNR's KOHD that will sound eerily similar to the version on the Days of Thunder soundtrack. 


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: echrisl on March 02, 2006, 05:52:54 PM
No, I've heard that.  It's clearly New GNR ... Axl talks over a part ... Axl never talked like that back in the day, it simply must be new!


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: 1badapple on March 02, 2006, 08:44:19 PM
i sent him the track to see if it was legit. i got it a year ago on a cd with irs on it as well. i was told it was the re-recorded version of brownstone. i let him have it, figuring it would get passed around to a few people and we'd see if it was legit or not. i never claimed to be 100% sure as to its legitimacy, as i mentioned in a previous post.

IRS was the real deal. i got my account turned into READ ONLY over at that other forum for posting lyrics (that were probably about 90% correct) but not proving the song. then a month or so later when that shitty ass rip of IRS got out i contacted a certain mod and asked if i could be reinstated and was told that since my post had been deleted there was no way to see if i was telling the truth or not.


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on March 02, 2006, 09:26:35 PM
The only real difference is the drums. And the only difference with the drums is the lack of reverb. Axl sounds the same. I dont think its the new band.
Its like a unmastered or remastered version of the song.


 :peace:


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Steel_Angel on March 02, 2006, 09:36:07 PM
Yeah, it's clearly not New GNR's rerecording ... you people love to play your stupid fucking games, don't you?

Well I don't find you very amusing.? Fuck off.
it was obviously a mistake and atleast we shared. fuck off.

It was a mistake that you changed the name to include 1999 and then acted like you couldn't reveal the super-secret source you got it from?? Mmmhmm.? I'll bet.

Just for my personal edification, are you deaf as well?? Because it really shouldn't be all that hard to determine that this is not New GNR if you actually listened to the track ...

Just to follow what has become the traditional back-and forth message ending between the two of us in this thread ... fuck off.

i sent him the track to see if it was legit. i got it a year ago on a cd with irs on it as well. i was told it was the re-recorded version of brownstone. i let him have it, figuring it would get passed around to a few people and we'd see if it was legit or not. i never claimed to be 100% sure as to its legitimacy, as i mentioned in a previous post.

IRS was the real deal. i got my account turned into READ ONLY over at that other forum for posting lyrics (that were probably about 90% correct) but not proving the song. then a month or so later when that shitty ass rip of IRS got out i contacted a certain mod and asked if i could be reinstated and was told that since my post had been deleted there was no way to see if i was telling the truth or not.

*pimp slaps echrisl* dont post if u dont know shit, stop makin crap up. thanks.
p.s.
theres no point in arguing. go to sleep.


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: Jizzo on March 03, 2006, 03:51:37 AM
whatever it is, it sounds good


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: zombux on March 03, 2006, 04:03:43 AM
sweet one, thanks. will give it a try as soon as I get to my own computer : ok:


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: debonbon27 on March 03, 2006, 05:07:11 AM
Once again, this IS old. I had it on tape in 1992.


Title: Re: Mr. Brownstone different studio version?
Post by: zombux on March 03, 2006, 06:14:40 AM
yes. this is just a different mix of the original song. very good however :peace: thanks for this