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Michael Jackson was a fucking genious
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I just want to talk about his musical career, especially in the 80's when he was at his peak.
I just choose 5 videos, Thriller, Billie jean, Beat it, Bad and Dirty Diana... this is just fucking geniious. Anyone around here who was old enough at the time? (I remember but I was very young) It must have been phenomenal to "live" this erea when he was on Top of the music world and to be old enough to realize how great he was... I suppose it was very impressive!
Thriller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8vA30ELuXY&search=michael%20jackson%20%20thriller
Billie Jean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFC70EFBQQ&search=billie%20jean
Beat it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni9SabJKdwA&search=michael%20jackson%20beat%20it
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Dirty Diana:
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True.
check this cover song by Crispin Glover of the Ben song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTKNahASSDI&search=ben%20glover
i love it and i love the original song too...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSqo17o2a1w&search=michael%20jackson%20ben
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Used to think along similiar lines - but go listen to 'Invincible' and honestly tell me he's a genius
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EVH and Slash are about the only genious things about his music
To be fair the early stuff was cool, for pop music. But I heard on some tv programme or something he got some bloke from Grimsby to write half of his major hits, and that place is a S-H-I-T-H-O-L-E
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Quote from: Izzy on August 04, 2006, 09:02:16 AM
Used to think along similiar lines - but go listen to 'Invincible' and honestly tell me he's a genius
invincible is a ok album poor by his standards just a album full of fillers to support the single, and only one of those were cool!!
i have the number ones on now!!!dirty diana rocks, who's that on guitars?
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I used to think he was pretty cool musically speaking but now I'm afraid I cant think about him without thinking 'perv'.
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and he likes to diddle little boys too
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Quote from: Izzy on August 04, 2006, 09:02:16 AM
Used to think along similiar lines - but go listen to 'Invincible' and honestly tell me he's a genius
I agree. He had a "spark" of genius. His 3 album run of Off the Wall, Thriller, and Bad was incredible. His slide began after that. His album in 1991(I forgot the name) had a couple hits(one of my fave MJ songs 'Remember the Time), but his career was never the same. Funny how he became obsessed with wanting to top Thriller. If so, why didn't he take years off and try and create something spectacular instead of putting out complete shit every few years.
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he was a fuckin genious.. don't like him anymore since all the bullshit don't know what i should think about him
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I got thriller again about 3 or 4 months ago...that album kicks serious ass
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It's amazing to think how well respected he would have been by now if it weren't for all the weird things he has done-some of you might be too young-I was in 5th or 6th grade when Thriller hit big-he was huge-my Grandmother even liked him-I really can't describe how big he was-maybe someone on the board 30 + can remember-this was when MTV really started off-a lot of his older music was great-Billy Jean, of course-it's really a shame to see what kind of a joke he has become
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I used to think he was pretty cool musically speaking but now I'm afraid I cant think about him without thinking 'perv'.
Sadly, that's my feeling too. I grew up listening to his songs, and it's hard to walk away from that.
I like his live cover of the Beatles' Come Together. One of the kids sitting to the right of the stage is none other than Sean Lennon.
Come Together:
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Michael Jackson is (was?) a huge star and one of the most talented artists ever.
I was a big fan of his. His decadence makes me sad.
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Quote from: Lara on August 05, 2006, 02:27:53 PM
Michael Jackson is (was?) a huge star and one of the most talented artists ever.
I was a big fan of his. His decadence makes me sad.
I dont know if decadence would be the word for it.
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I used to think he was pretty cool musically speaking but now I'm afraid I cant think about him without thinking 'perv'.
Sadly, that's my feeling too. I grew up listening to his songs, and it's hard to walk away from that.
I like his live cover of the Beatles' Come Together. One of the kids sitting to the right of the stage is none other than Sean Lennon.
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I dont know if you are a Soundgarden fan, but if you want to hear a band truly "own" that song and make it their own, check your PM box. Its an excellent quality demo.
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Michael Jackson - Smooth Criminal
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jackos best song by a country mile is 'dirty diana'
seconded by 'heal th world'
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I'm a massive Michael Jackson fan.
Although I love 'Thriller', my favourite album is 'Dangerous'. A lot of people aren't huge fans, but there are some amazing songs on that album - Jam, Remember The Time, Heal The World, Keep It In The Closet, Black or White, Give In To Me, Who Is It to name a few.
I was 12 in 1996 when my parents took me to see him in concert in Melbourne. Still to this day it's the best concert I've ever been to. I just remember the stage being completely black and he walked out with the spotlight on him, head down, hat on. He was carrying a briefcase, placed it on the table, pulled out a glove and went straight into Billy Jean. People went crazyyy and I'll never forget it.
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he also likes to diddle little boys too
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Quote from: LaTeRaLuS on August 07, 2006, 05:52:41 AM
Quote from: judaskennedy on August 07, 2006, 01:31:35 AM
he also likes to diddle little boys too
yes, you should be a comedian
comedians tell jokes, and theres nothing funny about micheal jackson and his diddling of little boys-
OJ simpson is a murderer- and micheal jackson is a molester-
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OJ simpson is a murderer- and micheal jackson is a molester-
I'll alert the media........
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Please, let's don't turn this thread into a court room.
Let's just talk about his music - it's none of our business if he's pervert.
I admire and respect him enormously as an ARTIST. It's just sad if he's a sick bastard, but let's try to focus on the artistic part of him.
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Quote from: Lara on August 07, 2006, 09:05:55 AM
Please, let's don't turn this thread into a court room.
Yes, your honor..
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Let's just talk about his music - it's none of our business if he's pervert.
Tell that to the victims and their parents.
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It's just sad if he's a sick bastard
Take the word "If" out of that sentence, and you've got yourself a true statement.
Its hard for people to take him seriously, and its even harder to listen to his music. I also like quite a bit of his old stuff, but how can you hear those songs and not think he's talking about kids? Its sick. His music will be forever tainted.
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Quote from: jameslofton29 on August 07, 2006, 09:17:11 AM
I also like quite a bit of his old stuff, but how can you hear those songs and not think he's talking about kids?
I've never thought of that... what an ugly thought indeed.
Maybe because I haven't listened to his music a lot, after the scandal. But I was a huge fan before that and I've always thought he was talking about Diana Ross with whom he was obsessed.
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I havent listened to his stuff either lately. I mean, think about it: What do you think the song P.Y.T. is about? The Way You Make Me Feel? Remember The Time? These are just a few examples, there are many more. I remember Boy George(or was it George Michael?) saying years ago how they had to change their lyrics around a little bit so people wouldnt know they were actually singing about men. Same thing with MJ, but his attraction is kids.
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genius and crazy often goes hand in hand. i guess i'm coming from the other end here, but the man is (was) a fucking genius. The sort of talent that only comes around so often. i don't know if i think he's a child molester. if i had a kid, i wouldn't let him near MJ. but we don't actually know for sure. what i do think is that MJ is very very very fucked up.
and his music is fucking killer.
i just couldn't care less about the context of the music itself. it's about the art, and he's made some of the best records out there. it really is too bad that he's created all this baggage for his masterworks.
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I havent listened to his stuff either lately. I mean, think about it: What do you think the song P.Y.T. is about? The Way You Make Me Feel? Remember The Time? These are just a few examples, there are many more. I remember Boy George(or was it George Michael?) saying years ago how they had to change their lyrics around a little bit so people wouldnt know they were actually singing about men. Same thing with MJ, but his attraction is kids.
Eh, I don't think it really matters what the original motivation for the lyrics were, ESPECIALLY if MJ has never said "oh btw, PYT was actually about Emmanuel Lewis".
Does knowing Rob Halford is gay "change" the way you think about all those awesome Judas Priest songs? Granted being homosexual is night and day compared to being a suspected child molester, NOBODY thought Halford was gay and metal is a very macho form of music.
great music is great music.
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Eh, I don't think it really matters what the original motivation for the lyrics were, ESPECIALLY if MJ has never said "oh btw, PYT was actually about Emmanuel Lewis".
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great music is great music.
tell that to his victims
and a child molester is a child molester
and to all those people that buy his albums...just remember where that money is going...Im glad your conscience is free
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i have mint sealed thriller on vinyl from my grandmas old house.. sick man
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Quote from: HannaHat on August 07, 2006, 03:03:42 PM
Eh, I don't think it really matters what the original motivation for the lyrics were, ESPECIALLY if MJ has never said "oh btw, PYT was actually about Emmanuel Lewis".
Im glad your conscience is free
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great music is great music.
tell that to his victims
and a child molester is a child molester
and to all those people that buy his albums...just remember where that money is going...Im glad your conscience is free
Oh pleases - get off your high horse. I suppose your craps don't stink either eh??
If a movie kicks ass, an album is awesome or a painting is beautiful I REALLY don't care what the persons personal beliefs are. EVEN IF MJ was accused of molesting kids, you can't say that suddenly "changes" how good his songs are. Just b/c mel gibson is a raging anti semite doesn't mean Braveheart and Mad Max are all of a sudden bad movies and I'm not going to watch them....I might think less of each of them as individuals, but its not like I was spending quality time with them anyways. Its not like I really care if they are bad people or not - I buy their CDs and watch their movies b/c I like their work, not b/c I think they are good/cool people.
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I used to think he was pretty cool musically speaking but now I'm afraid I cant think about him without thinking 'perv'.
Sadly, that's my feeling too. I grew up listening to his songs, and it's hard to walk away from that.
I like his live cover of the Beatles' Come Together. One of the kids sitting to the right of the stage is none other than Sean Lennon.
Come Together:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkcFixZuW4c
I dont know if you are a Soundgarden fan, but if you want to hear a band truly "own" that song and make it their own, check your PM box. Its an excellent quality demo.
not to take this offtopic, but the Soundgarden version rocks. Thanks jameslofton.
back on topic, I was under the impression that most of MJ's biggest hits were the result of his former producer Quincy Jones. I dont know how many songs he actually wrote himself, probably just stuff like Heal the world.
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Quote from: HannaHat on August 08, 2006, 09:29:16 AM
Oh pleases - get off your high horse. I suppose your craps don't stink either eh??
If a movie kicks ass, an album is awesome or a painting is beautiful I REALLY don't care what the persons personal beliefs are. EVEN IF MJ was accused of molesting kids, you can't say that suddenly "changes" how good his songs are. Just b/c mel gibson is a raging anti semite doesn't mean Braveheart and Mad Max are all of a sudden bad movies and I'm not going to watch them....I might think less of each of them as individuals, but its not like I was spending quality time with them anyways. Its not like I really care if they are bad people or not - I buy their CDs and watch their movies b/c I like their work, not b/c I think they are good/cool people.
if thats what you believe then excellent for you. "Good" is all about perception, its not real, there is no "perfect" to a song. Since he is almost undoubtedly a child molester the perception of the song changes, for me the song changes from good to a painful listen...its almost amusing to think some people defend his behaviour just because they like a few of his songs.
and as for mel gibson, i dont see him harming anyone, do you?
disassociation from a guilty conscience...does it feel good?
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If we separate the artist from the man for a few moments...
music video pioneer - he made music videos THE place to sell records, for better or worse
singer, dancer, songwriter and music composer - when he was on, he was ON; the layering of percussive vocal ticks as backing track under music was a melding of hip-hop, soul and doo-wop, done to pop perfection and imitated infinitely (message to Timberlake: you're not an eighth the man MJ is); oh, and the voice? incredible
simply the biggest American entertainer, ever - from boyhood to manhood (and beyond)
I wish he'd get back with Quincy Jones, concentrate on songwriting and then head to the studio with Rick Rubin and put out a deep, dark artistic statement. His career may be as good as over, but a strong epitaph would be a triumph...
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