Happy New Guns N' Fuckin' Roses Year

[bangit]

im having problems cant get it started.

[JAC185]

Amazing gesture 

Kudos to you, thanks alot 

[jarmo]

* I don't Want these releases to be downloaded & Watched by the following people.
- Those Who Badmouthed me & attacked me when i asked for financial Support for filming the 2006 GNR UK gigs.

I was one of them who questioned your weird request for getting a paid holiday.

So I'm not "allowed" to watch these DVDs now because I disagreed with you? 



But thanks for coming to your senses.



/jarmo

[GNROSAS]

* I don't Want these releases to be downloaded & Watched by the following people.
- Those Who Badmouthed me & attacked me when i asked for financial Support for filming the 2006 GNR UK gigs.

I was one of them who questioned your weird request for getting a paid holiday.

So I'm not "allowed" to watch these DVDs now because I disagreed with you??



But thanks for coming to your senses.



/jarmo

Hm...."Paid Holidays"...

Unfortunately You still have a long way to come to your senses...
and in this case, YES I don't want you to watch them

[axl32rose]

anybody have any suggestions to wehy i cant get this goin,, whether i try all at one or just choose 1 show,,  NO go.  Im using u-torrent and everything comes up fine and looks like its gonna work but it just won't start downloading.

any help will be apprciated.

[ROSE]

Would somebody please B+P or trade me a copy of the Dublin RDS DVD?? 

[jemin]

still nothing....is anyone else having any trouble in getting this going?

Do you have enough room on your hard drive?  Even if you don't download all the files it may not work because of that.

[cotis]

I'm just downloading all the files at once, onto an external harddrive. Good thing I just bought a big 250GB one

[bangit]

im having trouble still, rekon it mite be beacuse im not downloadin all files at once. just tryin dublin, aint got a big enough hard drive im afraid, only 80gb. got at least 20gb that i cant get rid of. be awesome if someone can upload individual shows on dime or something when done!

cany wait to see dublin again, fantastic show! best i saw on this years tour.

[cotis]

im having trouble still, rekon it mite be beacuse im not downloadin all files at once. just tryin dublin, aint got a big enough hard drive im afraid, only 80gb. got at least 20gb that i cant get rid of. be awesome if someone can upload individual shows on dime or something when done!

cany wait to see dublin again, fantastic show! best i saw on this years tour.

GNROSAS said in his first post he wishes that didn't happen, I thought? Guess it's not there anymore, or I'm just mistaken.  But when all is said and done and people start getting full DVD's I'm sure they will be able to send you B+P's or trades.

[jarmo]

* I don't Want these releases to be downloaded & Watched by the following people.
- Those Who Badmouthed me & attacked me when i asked for financial Support for filming the 2006 GNR UK gigs.

I was one of them who questioned your weird request for getting a paid holiday.

So I'm not "allowed" to watch these DVDs now because I disagreed with you? 



But thanks for coming to your senses.



/jarmo

Hm...."Paid Holidays"...

Unfortunately You still have a long way to come to your senses...
and in this case, YES I don't want you to watch them

Oh ok, a "paid working trip so you can film a band".

You're right though, if I had come to my senses, you'd been kicked out ages ago for trying to sell bootlegs. 


You don't want me to watch your bootlegs, but my collage was good enough for you to include on your UK compilation, and obviously our board is good enough for you to post on.

I don't care if you used the pic, but it's kinda hilarious. You're good at using things I've provided for you for free, but since I disagree with you, you wish I don't watch the "GNROSAS Productions".

 



/jarmo

[GNROSAS]

Oh ok, a "paid working trip so you can film a band".

You're right though, if I had come to my senses, you'd been kicked out ages ago for trying to sell bootlegs. 


You don't want me to watch your bootlegs, but my collage was good enough for you to include on your UK compilation, and obviously our board is good enough for you to post on.

I don't care if you used the pic, but it's kinda hilarious. You're good at using things I've provided for you for free, but since I disagree with you, you wish I don't watch the "GNROSAS Productions".

First I have no problem you to watch any other of my "GNROSAS Production" DVDs that i made in the past or the UK Compilation DVD...Yes You can enjoy all that...And yes you provided the collage.
So Enjoy the UK Compilation DVD!!!

But The 7 Gigs I filmed, I don't want you to watch...
and I don't want you cause of the simple reason that you keep on reffering to them with sarcasm as "a Holiday trip".

You are failing to Understand that When I went into these gigs i went with only 1 intention, to film them illegally risking a lot of money by my choice yes...I didn't enjoy them and it was no holiday at all I can assure you!!...

A Lot of Fans want to To Watch "Illegal" Videos to the concerts they have been.
Someone does the Dirty Job. And In that case it was me.

In My opinion covering the filming Costs (not profit) is something Fans should have no problem with
as they want to Enjoy an "illegal" Video, But they don't want to make their hands dirty or miss the concert experience. I Myself have no problem and i suport the Filmers for their costs.

"Bootlegs Must be for free to the Fans" That is an illusion...Guess What....Filming is very expensive & Risky job....It does not come for Free...Why Bootlegs MUST be for free...

The Problem i have with you is that you didn't just disagree with me...You Kept on making sarcastic comments about me filming without you having been there to know how it was for me....
How Can you Judge and make saracstic comments about a filming situation you were no part off??..

You were in the concerts enjoying yourslef drinking beer & singing the songs,,,,While I was stuck in an LCD screen, sweating not to get caught...You had a Holiday trip...Not me.

So Next Time Go and make your sarcastic comments on something you have an idea about...
And last time i checked you haven't filmed any shows & and you haven't been in the real trading world much.

[AdZ]

I just wanted you to know: You are the funniest person on the board this year.  So far.

[jarmo]

For the last time:

You asked to get paid after you had went, not before you went.

You chose to film them, you were not sent by anybody with a mission to stare at the LCD screen and film.


It's like going to work in an office one day, then ask to get paid by the manager because you actually went there to work. Nobody asked you to, you went because you wanted to.


I don't understand why you can't understand that some of us find this weird?




If you just did it for the love of the music, we wouldn't be having this disucssion. But maybe you had some other motives? The "fame", having something no other collector had, maybe it's exciting to film without getting caught? I don't know...

And last time i checked you haven't filmed any shows & and you haven't been in the real trading world much.

Wonder why..... It seems to be filled with people who are into the whole "my dad can beat up your dad" thing.

Many cool people too. Who don't ask for things, they're just happy to share.







/jarmo

[jemin]

For the last time:

You asked to get paid after you had went, not before you went.

You chose to film them, you were not sent by anybody with a mission to stare at the LCD screen and film.


It's like going to work in an office one day, then ask to get paid by the manager because you actually went there to work. Nobody asked you to, you went because you wanted to.

I think that is why so many people had the problem with it.

Nice analogy!

[estebanf]

You are failing to Understand that When I went into these gigs i went with only 1 intention, to film them illegally risking a lot of money by my choice yes...I didn't enjoy them and it was no holiday at all I can assure you!!...

You traveled around Europe to see Guns N' Roses several times and you want us to believe that you didn't enjoy the shows/journey? Then... why do you that, if seeing GNR, for you, is like a torture? You don't do it ''for the fans'', because you want the fans to pay you. And if you do it ''for you'', for having a souvenir for yourself... why the hell you wanted the fans to pay? I mean, am I thinking ilogically?

If you do it for the fans, you dont ask for money
If you do it for yourself, for having a souvenir, you dont ask for money
If you do it for WHATEVER REASON, and you ask money, you're a seller

Its not a sin to be a seller man, the only thing I cant understand is why you insist on the ''covering the filming costs''. With that point of view, I would be forced to pay Jarl for the hosting of PCT, the maintenance of the tracker, the time he (and lots of people) spend with their PCs uploading stuff; pay a monthly amount of money to dimeadozen and the whole ''internet > sharing for free'' thing would turn into a massive business

With your point of view, in the name of ''covering the maintenance of PCT'', Jarl could make a fortune in a short period of time. Only if the GNR community were enough fucked up like you want it to be.

You must be kidding

A Lot of Fans want to To Watch "Illegal" Videos to the concerts they have been.
Someone does the Dirty Job. And In that case it was me.

I am a fan that want (want, wish, NOT demand) every GNR show. I will download everything I like (if it is for free), and I will upload/share everything I think people could like for free. If I ever have a chance to film a GNR show, I will be amazingly happy to record the show and then run to my PC to encode/edit the stuff I recorded to be able, then, to share it with all the GNR community that gave me FOR FREE everything I have.

If you ask me ''estebanf, do you want me to record a GNR show?'' I will say ''Yes, of course''.
If you ask me ''estebanf, will you do ANYTHING, like PAYING, for me to record a GNR show?'' I will say NO.

Would you give me 2000/3000 euros to travel around europe, buy a camera, learn how to shoot a show properly and see several GNR shows?

Sorry for my english, I did my best.

[zombux]

seriously people, stop bitching. we are getting this amazing ( ) stuff for free and some people still keep bitching and complaining. I don't get it.

thanks for this Nikos. you made my day

[GNROSAS]

You asked to get paid after you had went, not before you went.

That is right and is logical cause you never know if you manage o film or not..
Every filmer gets paid after he does the job not before.

It's like going to work in an office one day, then ask to get paid by the manager because you actually went there to work. Nobody asked you to, you went because you wanted to.

Wrong Analogy!!!

How About..

It's like someone doing some voluntary work that costs money & risk & he produces an product....
Now people like his voluntary work and want his product...

So He says ok then if you want my product Just pay my costs/expenses (not profit) and enjoy them...

Why should he give it for free??? Cause it was voluntary??

Millions of Producers do their thing without being asked to do it in every day life....
They choose to do it...But 'most of them don't feel to give their product for free, Do they?

All shops that are around you open by their choice...Nobody asks them to open...
You just walk in, you like their products & you pay for the Cost & profit

Should they be for free cause they opened by their choice??

[Limulus]

- thank you so much for this brutal freeware
- shut up, bashers, and enjoy?

[Nightfall]

how?

the bashers aren't allowed to enjoy these dvd's.