Here Today... Gone To Hell!

OK...so I thought we could make a list of remaining Tuesdays and start a process of elimination.? As of today, there are 12 Tuesdays left (wow...has it only been one week since the announcement?):

October 10
October 17
October 24
October 31

November 7
November 14
November 21
November 28

December 5
December 12
December 19
December 26

I would say that as of right now, October is pretty much out of the question...possibly the 31st, but doubtful.? That eliminates 4 possible dates, leaving us with 8.? Jarmo and Mysterion have confirmed that November 21st is out as well...down to 7.? I agree that releasing anything AFTER Christmas also seems unlikely...though many retailers say that the time directly after Christmas is even busier than before.? So go ahead and knock off December 26th as well.? That leaves us with six realistic dates:

November 7
November 14
November 28

December 5
December 12
December 19

So we can eliminate half of the possible dates at this point.? My guess is that the announcement will come at least a month before the date, so by next Tuesday we can probably start eliminating even more.

I'm still pulling for November 14th!!!!

Peace,

SBM

before someone bashes you, i for one think this thread is a neat idea!

we should get some sort of online betting going on!

has anyone been to a bookie to see if you can place bets on when CD is out? ?:hihi:

I'll go with Nov 14th as well, tour starts, few gigs done and...bang Cd hits shelves..........im in dreamland! :hihi:

c'mon mate, you just copied you last post from another thread  ahahahahahaha :peace: : ok:

October 17
October 24 -> Too late to launch CD in october anyway.
October 31

November 7
November 14
November 21 -> As Jarmo said.
November 28

December 5
December 12
December 19
December 26 -> Too late ...

Well, first time I'm amusing myself doing predictions lol

I'd go for one of the three in red.

according to bigboss the current plan is to release it after the 21st november and before christmas.... this means we`re down to 4 tuesdays....

November 28

December 5
December 12
December 19

what we really need (and I'm much too lazy to do it) is the information on what other major CDs are being released in those weeks.  It's pretty standard -- although why do I write that, does GnR management do anything standard? -- to place your release when you are not going head-to-head against another major release, particularly if it pulls the same demographic buyer.  It's the same thing with movie releases. 

It's essential that CD open at No. 1 because the press will, of course, label it a "triumph" if it debuts at No. 1 and a "disaster" if it comes in at No 2..  For silly reasons, the number of units sold for the first week often does not carry as much weight as the opening week chart position in the mainstream press.  So, a No. 1 debut at 155,000 units (on a slow week) receives more press than a No. 3 debut at 220,000 units on a busy week.  The reason why the mainstream press matters is because it helps create "buzz" in ticket sales, more CD sales, etc...

So, I would HAVE to figure that even if not GnR's management, certainly Universal is paying a very careful eye to the week that is most likely to generate a guaranteed No. 1 debut and also play well in the long-run.  I think the only album that they may be concerned with, believe it or not, is Jay-Z's "secret" comeback CD, which many in the industry predict may break the all-time first-week sales record.  So, give a wide berth around that release and any other really big ones and we might narrow it down.

Outside of that information, I think December 5th is a good bet.  It's a little too close to the holiday shopping season, but most of the December releases are greatest hits/holiday releases and this may be interesting counterprogramming.  It still leaves plenty of time for Xmas shopping.  With a single dropping in early November, that might be enough to help the ticket sales for the early leg?

I'm going with the 14th. Maybe it's wishful thinking but since I'm going to a show on the 15th, it would be fucking sweet!

Lets start a pool. Not that I'm condoning internet gambling for you Americans (*looks around shifty-eyed for overpaid FBI agents with too much time on their hands*), but the rest of us... ;).

October 17
October 24 -> Too late to launch CD in october anyway.
October 31

November 7
November 14
November 21 -> As Jarmo said.
November 28

December 5
December 12
December 19
December 26 -> Too late .

I think november 28th  :D

December 5!

mysterion spoke about the 21st of nov rumour??

It WON'T be december 5th, Eminem (Interscope's savior and cash cow) is releasing an album that day. ?No chance in hell that Interscope wants two of their releases on the same day. ?If BigBoss is right (and I have no reason to doubt him), then it's one of three dates. ?11/28. 12/12, 12/19

i'm down with the 28 november....december is a little bit too late...unless it appears in shops the same day.

....we were going to get a CD release date announcement last april.

again?
i thought he retired?
wtf?

If we hear a single next week, then it's November 28th......six weeks before is standard nowadays.

can i withdraw my guess? :nervous:

It wll be one of three dates

November 7
November 14
November 21

Not only do I have that week off, but it's two days before my birthday.

Woo! Bring on the perfect timing. Now I know what they've been waiting for.  :)

i think it will not be a tuesday

Ill go with my birthday December 19th! LOVE ME!!  :-*

I'm guessing november too...any of them prolly later on .....the tuesday after american thanksgiving would be my bet if i HAD to :hihi:

yes, sunday seems more likely

i think it will be wenfesday or monday

i don't think that they are gonna change the way that stores and suppliers do things for this album

In North America cd's comeout on tuesdays and everywhere else is monday...

I love the confidence. I sure as shit hope your right my man. So where did you get this info from Dave?

Its funny to see that some boardmembers are spelling Mysteron with an I...

Some time ago another boardmember said Mysterone...

Just funny i think... ;D

That's my birthday too : ok:


I hope it comes out in November rather than December :yes:

I say 28th
Of November is the date.
Guess we'll find out "soon".... :D

For the past few years,
Biggest US shopping day
Was NOT Black Friday!

The last Saturday
That's prior to Christmas Day
Is now number one.

28th, I think,
Delivers best of both worlds.
Only time will tell!!! : ok:

Splash

/Mike

I did not know that.  That makes sense.   : ok:

I would gladly bet ?100 AGAINST the disc coming out this year. That way, I either win some money or I get Chinese Democracy this year. Win-win if you ask me!






(I'm a bookies' dream customer)

I think Thursday or Friday.

mysterion spoke about the 21st of nov rumour??

Yes...in the Rolling Stone rumor thread, he referred to Jarmo's response that it's not true...something along the lines of "a response has been given in the first post of this thread."

And for fuck's sake...CD's come out on TUESDAYS...ALWAYS.  I thought someone was just trying to make a joke at first...until three other people chimed in and didn't seem to be in on it.  The official e-mail even mentioned Tuesday.  Or maybe I've just had one too many today and everyone BUT me is in on it...

SBM

I'm saying 28th of Nov but like has already been highlighted I think we're looking at one of 3 dates 28th Nov, 5th or 12th of Dec those seem the most likely to me and a hunch makes me think Nov 28th. 

I have to vote for Dec12 just because it's my brithday  : ok:

well i'd just carry on witht he popular choice of going with your brithday and november 7th is the day after mine! so it would be sexy if that was to happen.

i was hoping it would be September  :peace:

I think the 21st makes the most sense, at least here in the States.  As any American knows, Thanksgiving weekend is the biggest or one of the few biggest shopping times of the year.  If it were to be released on Tuesday (two days before the Holiday), that allows people to buy the CD that entire extended weekend as well as the several weeks before Christmas.  I know this rumor has been shot down, and I'm not saying management will follow this logic, but this seems to be the date that will maximize sales.

This is EXACTLY what i was thinking too, they get both the day after thanksgiving and ALL the time leading up to and including christmas...no reason to do it any sooner or later

Who else thinks there will no anouncement before the tour starts?

oh, I'm betting on Nov. 28th   : ok:

Who is bigboss? Mysteron?

January 2, 2007

No, he is not Mysteron but he is a reliable source.

bigboss is the admin of a rumour board.

we got 3 main clues.

Merck said there were 11 Tuesdays between now and Christmas.
oct 24 would be too early. according to Mysteron
nov 21 is a wrong Tuesday as reported by Jarmo.


Is it the 23rd?

I think either 12/12 or 5/12 (5+1+2=8  ;D)

mmm.. good question - Ive often wondered

im gonna guess dec. 5th. Something just tells me that the date lol

November 7th is election day in the U.S....could be a symbolic day to release an album that may contain some thoughts about democracy here and in China???

I like 12/05/06.  Remember 12/05/02?  Thats right folks.  The last show of the 2002 tour at MSG.  4 Years later to the day it will be released.  :hihi:

12th of December...and no this is NOT a guess or prediction

Source?

What's the big fucking deal already?

Just announce the damn thing................

Why all the secrecy? It's not like anybody cares except us geeks anyway..........

ha, no shit.  Like what are they gaining from waiting and being cryptic about it.  It's a bit annoying.  Probably cause they don't even know....

Now THAT would be pretty cool.

Question, though.  What is everyone going to do if CD does not come out this year?

We won't have to worry about that since it's coming out this year.

Be very sad, ?:'( Im hoping it finally comes out. If it does not come out than it will probably be the time I finally stop looking on this page on a daily basis, after doing so for the last 5 years. ? :smoking:

November just feels right to me, either the 14, 21, or 28, with an announcement this Friday the 13th.

Hehe....I been sayin' that for years!

maybe 11/7 so Axl's new favorite city will have the album for the Friday night show :hihi:

^ that's also Robin's birthday, 11/7

Set fire to my car? :-\

As we pass by more tuesdays as the weeks go by the statistical chance that it is the next tuesday increases (since we know it is supposed to be out by Christmas).  That being said... I'm hoping for at least a November release, but I have no real guesses, so I'll arbitrarily pick a date... November 14.  No code, no sources, no insight.  Completely random.

About the 21 November rumour:


Just to be clear - it's been stated that the rumour is not true, however this does not mean that it could not be released on that date.

Not being facetious, it might be a difficult concept, but the 21st of November is NOT ruled out. 

Wow, to put this out after Black Friday is a mistake.

They really need to get this album out there for the mad rush of the holiday season. Nov 14, 21, or 28 are very reasonable dates, but the label will try to avoid Jay Z's latest. Why not earlier rather than later?

Exactly KV, it would be suicide to put it out after Black Friday.

You mean like it would be suicide to show up late to your own comeback tour in 2002 and then cancel it, and then tour again 4 years later with no album and refuse to anounce a release date?

I just posted this in another thread, but anyway...

I noticed that 12/5 was the last date of the 2002 tour, and 5/12 was the first date of the 2006 tour, so maybe the release date is 12/5, which is a Tuesday. 
 :o  ???  :nervous:  :drool:

Plus releasing it in November is conducive to the inevitable "November Reign" headlines when the album opens #1  :hihi:

Haha, good one man!

i'm betting November 14th or 28th.  Or early december, or not at all.  we need a single and annoucement fuckign soon though.

The 28th is after black friday? :P

I still think the first two weeks in nov are the best bets. Teh 21st may be out now since JZ, U2 and some other band have albums coming out

Day after Thanksgiving.  :-*

im going with december 5th, that gives that jay z album 2 weeks to wear off

Oasis and U2 will release their GH on 21 november...

So i guess we can rule that date out now...

With still no news on a new single im going for a december release now... :-\

Im not exactly sure how long cds get pressed before release, but i think if we have not heard any leaks, then its still always gonna be at least 3 weeks away. I only say this because i personally believe that during the pressing is when copies are stolen. Im pretty sure that each country presses their own cds and booklets. so thats my opinion... just talking shit.

NOVEMBER 28th :beer:

They won't put the CD out on black friday; that's be the biggest mistake ever. Someone who wants one guns and roses CD is not going to stand on a two hour line at Best Buy in front of some woman with a cart full of x-mas gifts.

I'm going to guess November 21st or 28th. I know as of now the 21st was just a rumor, but these two weeks seem like the optimal time to release the album.

 First of all, there won't be any "Black Friday" this year. The stock market is doing very, very well.

 Everyone is assuming whatever GN'R releases in the future is going to go onsale on a Tuesday. There are six other days of the week to choose from as well. If memory serves me, Metallica's St. Anger came out on Thursday, June 5th, 2003.

 Lastly, don't hold your breath for anything, this month, next month or the month after. Not to sound entirely pessimistic, but it is just as likely that there will be nothing released in the forseeable future. ?Axl's fax to MTV ten years ago this very month stated that there would be new material released in 1997. That never happened. Axl's interview with Brazilian radio stated that a new release would be issued in June of 2001 "or shortly thereafter". That never happened. In November of 2002, Axl said on Detroit radio that there would be a release "within the next year." That never happened. So, if whatever has been said will be released in 2006 is infact not released, then what? You're all going to boycott GN'R? Organize GN'R cd burnings? What is your recourse? What are you going to do? Give up? You'll do nothing. You'll be waiting just as you have every other time you've had expectations come and go. As a fan of this band, you hold zero leverage. For all we know, the recordings are still incomplete. There could be an enormous ammount of things to do with the recordings. If there is work to do, why rush it to make a deadline? After all this time, it doesn't matter when something new arrives. There's no need to rush at this point in time. It's possible it's not ready yet. People always speculate otherwise, but how would you know? The truth is, no one knows very much and to expect anything before this year is through is only setting yourself up for a letdown. It will be out when it's out. I miss the aspect of Guns N' Roses that was fun: the music, the performances. I've had enough of all of this business nonsense. Instead of the music and passion, it's turned into all of this business-talk nonsense. When I first saw the Welcome To The Junge video as ten years of age, I never would have imagined that by following the band 20 years later, it would be equivilant of taking a Business 101 course.

We are all assuming this because in an Official GnR press release, they stated that there were only 13 TUESDAYS left till the end of the year .....

CJ

 I understand that. However, that doesn't in any way obligate GN'R to release anything this year. In my opinion, it was a cryptic stab at those that are holding their breath for a new GN'R release. It doesn't necessarily mean anything. It might as well have stated that there is water at the bottom of the ocean.  : ok:

organized GN'R cd's burnings. (from fans to fans)
Wow that sound cool. Great Idea :hihi:.

As long as there's a Thanksgiving in North America, there will always be a "Black Friday". It has to do with retail in the day after Thanksgiving and nothing whatsoever to do with the stockmarket.

Also, St. Anger came out on a Tuesday in America and a Monday in the UK just like every other album does.

I thought there was sand and rocks and stuff at the bottom?    ???

Then visit a record store instead  : ok:

5 more tuesdays? Ill be visiting the store tomorrow, Im in europe

It's not coming out this year. Axl has made plenty of empty promises for years, so why believe this year? It's all horse shit.

well, atleast you're upbeat about it :hihi:

there's still time. Remain positive it's gotta come sometime, right? :-\

No, it's doesn't gotta do anything. I'm back to thinking CD is a long way off.

we'll know tomorrow if it comes out... that shit will hit the U.K. on monday. if it doesn't, kiss the 28th goodbye.

i cant wait till we are saying that there are -3 Tuesdays left in 2006


id put my money on the 19th right now

Yep.
12th is too close now, I don't think it'll come out that day..
I'd say that Ii it isn't on the 19th, it won't be out this year.
And they'd have to announce it this week, or next.
We're about to find out.

 ;D actually this thread should get smaller not bigger  :hihi: I seriously start to doubt though that "soon" is the word!

Just hope still this year,my shot is on december 19th. 8)

Guess how may Tuesdays are left in 2006....... Not enough.

The number of times I've seen somebody write this..  :no:

I will never try and predict a date of the release like some of you people! It will happen when it happens. But I will be laughing my arse off at the many? negative fools who have been putting posts like this for so long:
 

You are going to feel pretty silly when it all happens! Try being positive it's a good thing! To me saying shit about your favourite band is just a bit hypocritical. As I say many times keep the faith or just give up and stop wasting your time because you cant of been that bigger fan in the first place, if you cant see it all the way through, especially when some of you people who are whining and complaining probably have not even been fans since the very beginning! Its these fans who are still positive and keep the faith who know about patience! Mike

Well we know it's not coming out tomorrow, so here are the remaining dates....

December 5.
December 12.
December 19.
December 26.

Not looking good :-\

i think a lot of people that post that kind of thing would really rather feel silly than right : ok:

yeah I'm sure they'll feel really silly about being right for the last ten years. Do the people who have been saying "this is the year" for the last ten years feel silly about being wrong for a decade?. Get over it. it's not about being right and being wrong. It's about wanting the album. Nobody who doesn't think this is the year hopes this isn't the year. You shoud feel silly for being you and trying to act like a ?bigger fan because you're "positive". ?"Keep the Faith" is a Bon Jovi album not a creedo to live by for Gn'R fans.

Your exactly right mate I could not agree with you more!



There is no need for that. Thats just fucking rude, I have not been slinging any personal insults out! I would never try and say that I am a bigger GnR fan than the next person. I have no right to do that. My point was plain and simple that a lot of the people who are whining have only been fans for a very short space of time and that they should keep the faith just a little longer like the people who have been fans since day one!



Quite correct mate it is! You win todays top prize for observation! Its just like using a Radiohead song as your user name! I am not saying that it's a creedo for other gunners to live by. It's purely a phrase I have used because I fucking love this band and it gets so annoying to hear so much negative shit being spouted around at a time when all hell is about to break loose!

So if you have taken offence to my post I apologise my man, but I am simply saying that it is very very hard to hear negative whining again and again from people who really think they know what they are talking about. I was not even aiming the post at you so I am not too sure why you have climbed up onto your soapbox. It was a more general post aimed at the people who know exactly who they are! I am sure that the majority of the people who use this website would absolutely agree what I am saying! Mike

Alright so I was an ass. My bad. But C'mon. At this point you must know that the negativity is justified. We're on ten years here, the communication with the fans is pretty much the same as it was in 1998, or 2004 only difference is that when they do acknowledge us they are trash talking us.  Nobody who says anything knows anything. Fans who say this is the year don't have a fucking clue and fans who say it's aint' gonna happen have no fucking clue so nobody should be telling anybody to stop saying anything. You know what I mean? You're telling people they are gonna feel silly if the album comes out this year. I doubt anyone will feel silly. It's not like anyone hopes the album doesn't come out just so they dont' look bad. Hell every single one of us would rather look like an ass and have the album come out than look right and have no album.  I'm sorry for being an ass but like you being so sick of the "whining" I'm equally sick of people telling people their skepticisim is unjustified.  I know about waiting. I've been waiting since the last notes of Look at Your Game Girl. so even though I may be one who shows skepitcism and negativity I still hold out hope. I just hate the divison between Gn'R fans and to be honest it's those who are not acknowldegeing the fact that CD may not be coming this year who take the arrogant side of it. Too often if you're not insanely positive and supportive you're looked at as a fair whether fan. Not fair. Everyone is free to expres what they are feeling. If I misinterpreted your  comments to sugest you  being a  bigger fan by being positive I apologies but that is a common attitude around here. The more positive you are the bigger fan you are. nothing could be further from the truth.

As for me having Karma_Police as  a username I have to disagree with you.  it's not the same as Bon Jovi having an album called Keep the Faith. I used it as  a play on words(kinda). What was your play on words? just curious. I mean wouldn't what you said be like me saying "Quite correct mate it is! You win todays top prize for observation! Its just like using Patrick Roy's jersey number as your user name!"   What's it got to do with anything?  I was commenting on the "keep the Faith"  thing that is so over done by Gn'R fans. Just like "just have a  little patience" it's played out. nobody who is here now doesn't have faith and nobody who is here now hasn't used a fair amount of patience.

Before christmas would be nice...

Fair comments mate! I do agree with you on some points! I have not been saying the album will come out this year though! I just always say it will happen when it happens! Forget the radiohead bon jovi thing I was just playing with ya! I cant comment on the Patrick Roy thing, I guess he is an american footballer or something! I am from England so I have not heard of him! 33 is my lucky number, has been since I was a child! I would not judge some peoples skepticism on this site it's the ones who just make childish digs about how the album is never going to come out, they are done with this band and they will never post here again! But they continue to do so and just whinge! Those are the people who I aim a lot of my posts at! I just cant be arsed with it, I would rather discuss the band in a sensible manner and with sensible topics! My keep the faith comment is not something I use because it is banded around by other fans (which I was not aware of) like just a little patience is. It is purely the first saying that comes to mind because although I get pissed off with the people who do a lot of whining I really do believe it when I say to them to keep the faith and not give up on something when it is pretty damn close to coming out!! I used to say very similar things to mates when the UYI's came out although not via an internet message seeing as it was 91. They used to say to me that there will never be another GnR album because there had been a 4 year wait since AFD. Boy were they wrong! Although this wait has been a hell of a lot longer, it will still happen when it happens and in the mean time I am just really enjoying all the gigs that are happening and it has been a pretty good fucking year for GnR fans!! Mike ?

I'm just hoping it gets released before I die!

i want to believe the new guns but so far they have been a disappointment at keeping their promises. 4 tuesdays left no a word yet form the band or mgmt about a release date. with most bands we know months ahead bout their new releases and in most cases they'll stick by initial deadline. new gnr is promising this album since 6 or 7 years ago. ?is fair to say the odds are against them about 2006 release. ?

as fans we buy their albums dvds t-shirts go see them live what else are we supposed to do?? to the band-where is consideration?? i think that is not too much to ask when it comes to a release date for the new album or tell us whats the hold up. this is not having it our way, just common sense. just a few lines on their website now and then wouldnt hurt.

If it is coming out this year, I'm expecting it to be December 26.

It's the last possible date of the year to get the thing out, meaning Axl sticks to what he said, but left it as late as possible, classic Axl.

The novelty of releasing it the day after Christmas, releasing the thing will be huge anyway, putting it out on this day will make people remember that release date in years to come.

I just hope if we get nothing, we will get some sort of press release on the matter, i'm fearing the silence......

that would mean that it wont be in europe...
on the 25th the stores dont work, and monday is when Europeans get it...

decemeber 26th is just not an option, last possible date for this year is the 19th, 26th makes no sense

I wonder if that was the case, could the CD get released in the US and Europe on the same day?

I don't know... Just got some ideas that i'm trying to get down.

But in reality, i'm sure they would want the CD out before Christmas, meaning the 19th is the likely day....

No it is allegedly coming out in Europe the day before the us release unless things change.

What would happen if it were due on the 26th then?

Europe would not get it on the 25th, Christmas Day.

Does that rule out that date?

well logic says that there's no way the album is gonna be out on the 26th...
but I'd really like to keep that option open... so I can extend my hope a little longer if the album does not come out on the 19th:(

yes.

Besides, merck sorta implied it would be before christmas day.

i don't know who's gonna get it for christmas, every gnr fan is gonna buy this thing the first day it comes out.  i don't think christmas matters on this one.

it always matters...

While I agree on that,  I can't see many record stores opening for GNR on the 25th.

i mean they might as well release it for christmas, im thinking in terms of the general public - the casual listener. ?in my opinion this is the kind of thing you buy immediatly or not at all.

So now we only have 3 possible dates  :-\

It aint gonna happen

If it drops on one of these Tuesdays, I'm gonna be one surprised motherfucker.

never thought id say this but...  :-\

JUST ONE QUESTION FOR ME:
HOW MANY TUESDAYS REMAINING  IN MY LIFE.....

its either December 19, or this year is out of the question...

I've pretty much resigned to the fact that the album isn't coming out this year.  I'd give it a 50-1 shot that it's being released December 26th, but thats' about it.  I'd like the band to at least publish a release date for 2007 as a runners-up prize. 

Cheers,

Andrew

I would like the album to show up on Amazon with some 15 or 30 second clips of some of the tracks we haven't heard yet!

a release date for 2007 would be very nice , how far can a fan be possiably strung along here

Well since tomorrow looks impossible thats me out.

Im now in the "its not 2006" camp.

I think we need to wait until at least the 19th december...right before xmas....cause somehow I don't see it being released either before or after that date.

Same here. I'm afraid its back to the usual spring release date rumours.  :no:

Fortunately Buckcherry's album is great if you are looking for some rawk to tide yourself over for a bit!

We should all be ecstatic that the tour is going so well. ::)

If it's not coming out this year then I prefer that they not publish another tentative date for the release. It's just built up and then it get's delayed.

Sorry to tell you this, but there are only 18.

Am I sensing a little sarcasm ?

...December 19 or broke...

No, my finger was compelled to the eye roll, much like a ouija board...lol

Perhaps...unless there is nothing rock related being released in that time frame.

I get the feeling that this time next year, people will still be doing a "there are only x Tuesdays left" before year's end. That, or "2008 will DEFINITELY be the year"

that's what I think too.   :-\  That would logically mean 3 days till well......The Announcement? Will it really really really happen??  :nervous:

3 to go  :-\

the 19th is the only viable day left...didnt someone say its coming out this year????

Some guy named Axl Rose...hopefully, you don't have to change your board name.  :no:

yep has to be 19th now, i had my money on today from october time - obviously not !

Come on axl, dont let us down man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your music is awesome and am sure chi dem will live up to everyones expectations!

It will live up to the expectations of logical, rational human beings and true fans of the band.

Anyone not a member of the above will be sorely disappointed and will hate until there is no hate.

It's CLEARLY not coming this year.  I for one am done checking forums for the rest of '06...Yes, I am disappointed, but I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation, right?  :-\ 

Well we fans are supposed to not remember there is an album or that they promised us to release it this year.  So let's all forget people!   :hihi:

Shouldn't we be taking bets now?  I bet they have the line in Vegas:
December 1-100
January    1-10000
February   1-10

I agree. Also, technically, the 19th is the last Tuesday of Fall 2006.

hey bud, you sure axl said it was coming out this year? actually, he never has....

Im sure he has a few times, he said 'fall. late fall' on the MTV video awards pre-show did he not?

"On August 31, 2006, Axl presented The Killers at the MTV Video Music Awards by coming out onto the stage and screaming his trademark, "Do you know where the fuck you are?!" In an interview backstage, Axl revealed that the official Chinese Democracy tour will begin "around October 24th," and that the album will be out this year." ~wikipedia

the actual quote is out there, but he said it. I was watching MTV at the time.

not to mention the commonly referenced number of tuesdays left in the year on the GN'R myspace page.

Even though it's pretty logical for it to come out Jan 16.th 2007, the day the tour ends (a tuesday).

I think I am depressed.


I want GN'R to get CD out there so that those who are doubtful will shut the fuck up already..
..and so that Axl can gain some more respect. He deserves it.

Releasing an album after the tour, in the worst consuming month of the year seems logical?

Merck, please put us out of our misery.... :-X

I'd bet everything I have on the album not being out this year.  And if it does happen to be released, there is no way all of the marketing and promotion is going to be effective as it could have been if this was done PROPERLY.   

I was dissapointed with UYI 1 & 2, does that mean I am not a true fan? I think Fanboi might be the word you were looking for. Fans in general are free thinking and don't automatically love everything thier favorite band does.

He also said it on the Eddie Trunk show.  Axl said on that show that the album would be out in "fall or late fall".  Sorry buddy but saying that Axl never said it would be out this year.  You should've checked things first.  Unless you did what I think Axl and Merck wants us to do and that is to forget they ever said CD would be out this year.

Only the old farts that can't handle Slash not being there... Why is the 19th the only viable date? Why not the 26th?

Because albums don't get released in Europe on the 25th, and according to Merck the album will be released one day early on the old continent.

Forget? I believe they know what their fans are made of, GNR fans put up with a lot of bs but we don't forget any word that comed from the Man's mouth ?;D

I know, some of us could probably summarise every word he has spoken publicly since 94. :hihi:

Only two more tuesdays left, obviously the 26th is not an option if what was said about it being released a day earlier in Europe is true.

So therefore, it has to be the 19th, or 2007.

i can't remember the exact wording of the question that was posed to merk regarding the "day earlier in europe" thing, but it wouldn't surprise me if he had meant that it would technically be in stores a day earlier even if the stores weren't open that day.  just something to consider, as there would be something very cool and appropriately epic about keeping everyone guessing then releasing the album on the last possible tuesday.

If it is coming out on the 19th shouldn't we have an anouncement by now? Isn't it getting to late to be a possibility?

That's stretching it man......

i already had to eat my words on the Nov 28th release.  I can assure you the odds of it coming out this year given today is the 5th in the states is pretty much zero.  :(

remember the harley davidson commercial with "better", i feel like they should take the "come back soon to hear this song off the upcoming Chinese Democracy album" heading off, it's December already, don't you think soon has passed already?

hahaha this is awesome.... i dont know about you, but just knowing the album will probably be in my hands before march of 2007 is good enough for me.... even if it doenst come out in the next 3 weeks

I don't know if "soon" is the word...

Not really ... considering Merck's usual level of reliability, there's no such thing as stretching the truth when it comes to his comments, because nothing can top the stretching Merck himself ends up doing when all is said and done.  Or did you feel that 2005 was indeed the year of Guns N' Roses?

or 2004, or 2003, or 2002, or 2001 ?

Just like march 2006  : ok:

I would think that the release date would be officially announced before CD starts duplication otherwise someone, somewhere is bound to leak that CD is on the way. Remember merck said the official release date would come from them.

As far as I can see, just announcing a release date wouldn't make it any easier or harder to pirate it.

And, if the CD is just going to appear with no promotion, whats with the HD advert?

All this makes me think it isn't coming for a while yet, though I hope I'm proved wrong.

Has anyone tried contacting BBF or Richard Fortus to see if they can say anything? (Though I'm sure they can't)

i am imagining BBF and richard (as the most communicative band members to fans) thinking along the lines of a t-shirt that says "No, I don't know when the album will be released"  :hihi:

In the same manner as Duff had one back in the day saying "no, i don't know where Axl is"

12th, december
19th, december.. The only remaining possibilities in 2006.At least we know that it will happen in the next 2 weeks if if was still planned to be released this year

today is the 6th so disregard next tuesday. only 2 tuesdays left.
in uk and ireland the offical new releases are on mondays but the new releases hit the shelves over the weekend. eminems and gwens album official release was last monday the 4th but they were on the shelves already on sat the 2nd.

 :crying:

You people are funny, thinking CD will be released with no prior notice..lol. CD is not coming out at all in 2006. maybe not 2007. I was fooled with axl's coomments about the album coming out "this year". it won't happen again.

this thread could have been posted in 2002-03-04-05 and we would still get the same result... nothing.

 :crying: Son-of-a-bitch its not fucking fair? :crying:

sniff sniff* heres to a CHINESE DEMOCRACY eventually :beer: :'(