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« Reply #60 on: December 30, 2006, 08:56:26 AM »

It still doesn't change that more than likely Saddam would still become a marty. International court or no international court.
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« Reply #61 on: December 30, 2006, 09:02:09 AM »


Yes one is a hanging one is a beheading, one is an innocent man one is a convicted man, one was done illegally one was done legally (ie through a court order). Whether you agree with the punishment or not you cannot compare the execution of an innocent man to one of a convicted murderer. But i do fear this is going to cause further innocent bloodshed.     
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« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2006, 09:15:03 AM »


Yes one is a hanging one is a beheading, one is an innocent man one is a convicted man, one was done illegally one was done legally (ie through a court order). Whether you agree with the punishment or not you cannot compare the execution of an innocent man to one of a convicted murderer. But i do fear this is going to cause further innocent bloodshed.     

Then I'll rephrase the question: do you see any similarities?
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« Reply #63 on: December 30, 2006, 09:21:18 AM »


Yes one is a hanging one is a beheading, one is an innocent man one is a convicted man, one was done illegally one was done legally (ie through a court order). Whether you agree with the punishment or not you cannot compare the execution of an innocent man to one of a convicted murderer. But i do fear this is going to cause further innocent bloodshed.     

Then I'll rephrase the question: do you see any similarities?

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« Reply #64 on: December 30, 2006, 09:45:55 AM »

Executioners have been hooded since the dawn of times.

The one similarity I can find is the smell of Death. Undeniably, Hussein committed horrible crimes against humanity by judging a great many people to their deaths. And yet, by doing the same for him, we do agree with him that some lives are more expendable than others.

Kill a thousand and its a genocide.
Kill one and its a reckoning.

I fail to see how that would work.
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« Reply #65 on: December 30, 2006, 09:56:01 AM »


The one similarity I can find is the smell of Death. Undeniably, Hussein committed horrible crimes against humanity by judging a great many people to their deaths. And yet, by doing the same for him, we do agree with him that some lives are more expendable than others.

My point exactly.
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« Reply #66 on: December 30, 2006, 11:01:46 AM »

Do you see any difference?





Big difference. Saddam killed hundred of thousands of people. The other guy was innocent. Dumbass!
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« Reply #67 on: December 30, 2006, 11:03:03 AM »

Do you see any difference?





Big difference. Saddam killed hundred of thousands of people. The other guy was innocent. Dumbass!

Exactly, no comparison
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« Reply #68 on: December 30, 2006, 11:23:31 AM »

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 Witness: Hussein's last words mock Shiite cleric
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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Defiant to the end, Saddam Hussein mocked Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr moments before he was hanged, a witness said Saturday.

The Iraqi government executed Hussein before dawn as punishment for his role in a massacre of his own people, more than two decades before he was toppled by a U.S.-led invasion.

A video of the execution broadcast on Al-Iraqiya state television showed Hussein, dressed in a black overcoat, being led into a room by three masked guards

A witness, Iraqi Judge Munir Haddad, said that one of the executioners told Hussein that the former dictator had destroyed Iraq, which sparked an argument that was joined by several government officials in the room.

As a noose was tightened around Hussein's neck, one of the executioners yelled "long live Muqtada al-Sadr," Haddad said, referring to the powerful anti-American Shiite religious leader.

Hussein, a Sunni, mockingly uttered one last phrase before he died: "Muqtada al-Sadr," according to Haddad's account.

The judge said Hussein appeared "totally oblivious to what was going on around him. I was very surprised. He was not afraid of death."

But Haddad's description of Hussein's demeanor before his execution contrasts markedly with another witness, Iraqi national security adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie. "He was a broken man," al-Rubaie said. "He was afraid. You could see fear in his face."

he former dictator refused to wear a hood as he was hanged, al-Rubaie said.

Hussein's death came in "a blink of the eye" after his executioner activated the gallows just after 6 a.m. (10 p.m. Friday ET), said al-Rubaie.

"This dark page has been turned over," al-Rubaie said. "Saddam is gone. Today Iraq is an Iraq for all the Iraqis, and all the Iraqis are looking forward. ... The [Hussein] era has gone forever."
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« Reply #69 on: December 30, 2006, 11:26:26 AM »

Big difference. Saddam killed hundred of thousands of people. The other guy was innocent. Dumbass!

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« Reply #70 on: December 30, 2006, 11:44:39 AM »

Hangman, hangman, hold it a little while,
I Think I see my friends coming, Riding a many mile.
Friends, you get some silver?
Did you get a little gold?
What did you bring me, my dear friends? Keep me from the Gallows Pole.
What did you bring me to keep me from the Gallows Pole?

I couldn't get no silver, I couldn't get no gold,
You know that we're too damn poor to keep you from the Gallows Pole.
Hangman, hangman, hold it a little while,
I think I see my brother coming, riding many a mile.
Brother, you get me some silver?
Did you get a little gold?
What did you bring me, my brother, to keep me from the Gallows Pole?

Brother, I brought you some silver, yeah.
I brought a little gold, I brought a little of everything
To keep you from the Gallows Pole.
Yes, I brought you to keep you from the Gallows Pole.

Hangman, hangman, turn your head awhile,
I think I see my sister coming, riding many mile, mile, mile.
Sister, I implore you, take him by the hand,
Take him to some shady bower, save me from the wrath of this man,
Please take him, save me from the wrath of this man, man.

Hangman, hangman, upon your face a smile,
Tell me that I'm free to ride,
Ride for many mile, mile, mile.

Oh yes, you got a fine sister, She warmed my blood from cold,
She warmed my blood to boiling hot to keep you from the Gallows Pole,
Your brother brought me silver, Your sister warmed my soul,
But now I laugh and pull so hard And see you swinging from the Gallows Pole

But now I laugh and pull so hard And see you swinging from the Gallows Pole
Swingin' on the gallows pole!
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« Reply #71 on: December 30, 2006, 01:07:52 PM »

What really happened is a US Shiite puppet government hung one of the top Sunnis. They could have made it work if he was judged by an international court, but they did not - instead we hung him the way colonial powers hang rebels. We have done nothing but create a martyr. Get ready for more blood and guts.

The US meddling with Iraqi affairs? That's a first. Back in 1958, Abdul Karim Qassim, Iraq's first president came to power after succesfully overthrowing the king, Faisal II. Quassim's bloody reign went on for a while unnoticed, until he began to make ties to the Soviet Union (during monarchy, Iraq had been pro-West) and support the Communist movement. The Baath party was at odds with the new president and assembled a six-man squad to assassinate him in 1959. This attempt was supported by the CIA, Baath being anti-communistic by fault and also a suitable and much needed pawn at the time. The assassination itself went awry, with Baath scattering for a future attempt. A certain young member of the hitmen was injured and smuggled into Egypt through Syria and Lebanon, during which time he received training from the US intelligence.
 
In 1963, Baath made another coup, now with more success. While the CIA has denied ever being a part of this operation, they have admitted to have supplied Baath with lists of people known to have been members of Iraq's Communist party. These people would then be hunted down by the Iraqi National Guard.

In 1968, after some subsequent power struggle, Ahmad Hassan al-Bakr of the Baath party rose to power, his henchman being the young man delivered to Egypt nearly ten years earlier. Saddam Hussein had officially began his journey towards rule of Iraq.
 
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« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2006, 01:39:59 PM »

Saddam is dead.
This should be a war of hate. Not a war of understanding. In WW 1 and 2 we hated are enemies. We didnt try to understand them and sympathize with them. We HATED THEM. We wiped them out and won wars. Islamo facists need to die.
Saddam being hung is great. The death penalty is necessary. They are some even people out there who need to die.
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« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2006, 01:57:25 PM »

Saddam is dead.
This should be a war of hate. Not a war of understanding. In WW 1 and 2 we hated are enemies. We didnt try to understand them and sympathize with them. We HATED THEM. We wiped them out and won wars. Islamo facists need to die.



Saddam is not an "islamo fascist" genius. He was secular dictator who was supported by the United States government for years until Bush needed a scape goat.

Understanding and sympathizing with an enemy are clearly different things. Stupid talk like yours is why Iraq is in complete meltdown mode right now. Bush was so stupid he didn't even understand that there were different sects of Islam in Iraq. Of course, now he knows. The Arabs have already begun to use this as a propaganda tool against the USA just like Bud Fox said they would. Arab cartoons showing Saddam being hung by the American backed puppet government have already surfaced, and will only inspire more terrorists now. Just as Iraq has been proven to spawn more terrorists. He should have been tried in an international court. Man, just when you think Bush can't fuck it up anymore.
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« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2006, 02:17:01 PM »

So your thery is that there will be even more terrorists than before? Are you afraid of these evil fucking people? Should we just not do anything because were afraid of what they will do to us? Iraq is on its way to a better place. Having democracy there is amazing. Percentage wise more people turned out for the election there than in the US. Much, much more. Not having to live in fear of some fuck like Saddam and his men is the best thing for those people. The people that live there have to be given the power and freedom that has been denied to them for so long. They, sadly, can't do it alone.
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« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2006, 02:39:09 PM »

How anyone could sympathize with Saddam is absurd. He is in the same group as Hitler and Milosovic. Brutal dictators who killes hudreds of thousands or more of their own people.

Oddly enough, Saddam would still be alive & in power if he let the UN inspectors look at whatever they wanted in 2002. Not a smart man either. Apparently he had no WMD's so what was his problem other than his ego?
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« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2006, 02:49:12 PM »


Iraq is on its way to a better place. Having democracy there is amazing. Percentage wise more people turned out for the election there than in the US. Much, much more. Not having to live in fear of some fuck like Saddam and his men is the best thing for those people. The people that live there have to be given the power and freedom that has been denied to them for so long. They, sadly, can't do it alone.


You people are out of your fucking minds. Iraq is in total meltdown mode and people are getting butchered in the middle of a civil war right now. Unlike you guys Bud fox is a non-Kool-Aid drinking realist, we both know the reasons given for the War in Iraq have been nothing short of utter fictions made up for yellow-ribbon waving shitheads (Maccacas). Once one excepts that fact, one must now move on to the next question - what is the real reason we are in Iraq? It sure isn?t to spread democracy. Like trying different pieces of a puzzle to find the one that fits, the one labeled "because the Saudis are running out of oil so they are using their Bush family puppets to gain control of Iraq's" fits quite nicely. it would explain our odd defense of Kuwaiti fascists in 1991 as well, where Bush Daddy did a 180 on Saddam, telling him it was ok to invade one day, and then becoming the great defenders of non-existent Kuwaiti freedom the next.


So your thery is that there will be even more terrorists than before? Are you afraid of these evil fucking people?

Hey, Bud Fox is throwing a "Victory for Al Queda  in Iraq Party" for all his friends. After we face east to pray to Mecca, we are going to do Jello Shots with the ACLU while we watch gays bang each other as we plan to take God away from the public. You're invited!
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« Reply #77 on: December 30, 2006, 02:50:27 PM »

How anyone could sympathize with Saddam is absurd.

Who is doing that?

Man you guys are nuts.




Oddly enough, Saddam would still be alive & in power if he let the UN inspectors look at whatever they wanted in 2002. Not a smart man either. Apparently he had no WMD's so what was his problem other than his ego?

You may want to brush up on your history.

Bush kicked the inspectors out, not Saddam. The biggest lie your fascist leader ever led you to believe was that Saddam kicked them out, causing us to invade Iraq. It's a total fabrication that stooges repeat to this day. Absolutely pathetic.
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« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2006, 02:56:56 PM »

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oh puleeze.. thats not graphic  Roll Eyes

i wanna see him hanging.. that is graphic.
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« Reply #79 on: December 30, 2006, 03:12:07 PM »

ive seen the video showing his dead body, it looks as though his neck is completly broke
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