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« on: January 17, 2005, 11:56:22 AM »

Hi,

I've had a discussion with a friend of mine about the music category gn'r fits into.
He says gn'r is hair metal just like poison and van halen.
I've told him that gn'r is everything but not hair metal, I think "glam rock/classic rock with blues and punk elements" describes gn'r musical direction the best.
What do you think is the best category for gn'r both oldgnr and newgnr?
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2005, 12:06:09 PM »

Hard Rock.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2005, 12:10:56 PM »

streight up fuck you rock n' roll! thats what i like to say! smoking

to call it hair metal is just ignorant, gn'r killed hair metal...

i guess classic rock n' roll tho is the most fitting....

just rock n' roll would do fine too i guess ok
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2005, 12:15:46 PM »

lol at izzy, think that too  ok

look at live at the roxy 86, compare too the 90's then look at vma02

hard-rock\rock is the most including term 4 gnr imo

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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2005, 12:45:49 PM »

Classic rock.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2005, 01:09:25 PM »

bloody brilliant
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2005, 01:37:02 PM »

Hi,

I've had a discussion with a friend of mine about the music category gn'r fits into.
He says gn'r is hair metal just like poison and van halen.
I've told him that gn'r is everything but not hair metal, I think "glam rock/classic rock with blues and punk elements" describes gn'r musical direction the best.
What do you think is the best category for gn'r both oldgnr and newgnr?

sounds like your friend is a hateR.


Hard Rock sounds about right.
Their image was glamy at the beginning, but the music was straight down in your face hard rock.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2005, 02:29:49 PM »

It would be hard to define the new band though since we dont have enough material to judge them on.  peace
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2005, 02:42:30 PM »

It would be hard to define the new band though since we dont have enough material to judge them on.  peace
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2005, 02:45:05 PM »

Anything goes.

I agree with everyone on this thread so far. It?s difficult to put this band into one existing category minuter than hard rock/rock.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2005, 04:50:53 PM »

i think one of the biggest misconceptions about gnr is that they were a hair metal band...GNR IS NOT HAIR METAL...they may have been popular during the hair metal era, but their music is not hair metal...gnr was influenced by 70's blues-based rock bands like: led zeppelin, aerosmith, queen, etc...i consider gnr to be "blues-based hard rock"...the new gnr...now that's a different story...no one knows what category they fall into, since we haven't actually heard an album yet...

gnr was the opposite of hair metal...they were against the hair metal sound...they were trying to bring back the classic rock of the 70's...that is what made gnr so great, and that is why they are still popular today - they didn't try to sound like all the other cheesy hair bands of the 80's..
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2005, 05:26:49 PM »

It's Classic Rock (at least for the old band).
GN'R have strong bluesy roots, Slash is a blues/rock kind of guitar player ala jimmy page, joe perry and Axl Rose is very influenced by blues-rock and classic-rock too (elton john, queen). Izzy is a folk rock player ala Bob Dylan.

For the new band: I really don't know. I think their weakest? point is that I can't feel their soul as a "band". It's not cohesive because They all come from too many different directions and yeah...that's not cohesive IMO. For exemple, Tommy and Richard perfectly fit in this classic-rock GN'R style (music, spirit, style, feeling, just Rock n' Roll!), while Buckethead, Robin Finck and Brain seem to be the opposite of Rock n' Roll (especially Robin and BH). I don't think they are the right guys for this band. I think Axl should bring Rockers because that's what GN'R is about. He is making an enormous mistake with a Gothic/industrial/indus guitarist on lead guitar. Come on, GN'R is not ministry or marylin manson... nervous
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2005, 05:56:57 PM »

It's Classic Rock (at least for the old band).
GN'R have strong bluesy roots, Slash is a blues/rock kind of guitar player ala jimmy page, joe perry and Axl Rose is very influenced by blues-rock and classic-rock too (elton john, queen). Izzy is a folk rock player ala Bob Dylan.

For the new band: I really don't know. I think their weakest? point is that I can't feel their soul as a "band". It's not cohesive because They all come from too many different directions and yeah...that's not cohesive IMO. For exemple, Tommy and Richard perfectly fit in this classic-rock GN'R style (music, spirit, style, feeling, just Rock n' Roll!), while Buckethead, Robin Finck and Brain seem to be the opposite of Rock n' Roll (especially Robin and BH). I don't think they are the right guys for this band. I think Axl should bring Rockers because that's what GN'R is about. He is making an enormous mistake with a Gothic/industrial/indus guitarist on lead guitar. Come on, GN'R is not ministry or marylin manson... nervous

I agree about BH but not about Robin, he may look goth, but I fucking love ROBIN !!!!!
Did you see rock in rio ?? when you compare robins solos to BH........woah !!! BH is the skilled guitar player but Robin has the licks that KILL muthertrucker !!!!! ROBIN is Rock N' Roll smoking and he looks damn cool

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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2005, 06:14:26 PM »

I think Axl should bring Rockers because that's what GN'R is about. He is making an enormous mistake with a Gothic/industrial/indus guitarist on lead guitar. Come on, GN'R is not ministry or marylin manson... nervous
maybe he is inventin and makin the genre more including, like elvis did with what was called black music-

and axl is makin that rockbands does not need have that certainity Smiley

axl used the word agressive electroncica when he tried to describe the second album in 99 Shocked

think gnr will always be under the term rockband anyway beer
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2005, 06:22:51 PM »

The old GNR - Hardrock/Metal ! Dont Deny it! Some old GNR songs are more Metal than Rock
The new?? - Hmm.. we dont know for sure, but i guess it will be a meltingpot of; Metal/Hardrock/Indus.
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2005, 07:23:52 PM »

No, it's not metal. Metallica is metal and there is no ressemblance with GN'R.
GN'R is close to Aerosmith or Led Zeppelin type of music, and it's Rock N' Roll.

However VR is metal. they sound metal...and they sound realy different of GN'R.
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2005, 07:32:06 PM »


From the early days, Metal

AFD days, Hard rock

UYI days, Blues and Hard rock.

New GN'R, soft rock.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2005, 07:54:32 PM »

New GNR soft rock??

Chi-dem the song is pretty nasty!
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2005, 08:11:45 PM »

No, it's not metal. Metallica is metal and there is no ressemblance with GN'R.
GN'R is close to Aerosmith or Led Zeppelin type of music, and it's Rock N' Roll.

However VR is metal. they sound metal...and they sound realy different of GN'R.

Ohhh Noo!
Velvet Revolver is real Rock N Roll!
Guns N Roses is more close to metal.

What is try to say, is that u cant put GNR in a musical genere... They have everything from bad boy rock n roll! to heavy metal...
And im sure thats how the new GNR also will be like. I dont know that, i just take a wild guess! But if u listen to Oh My God, for example?Huh Thats Metal! Oh My God is a metal song! No doubt about it! If u cal that Rock n roll, or hard rock, well, then i dont agree with u! Silkworms is some kind of Industrial metal song. Chinese Dem is more like Hardrock... so are Maddy
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2005, 08:14:53 PM »

However VR is metal. they sound metal...and they sound realy different of GN'R.

your off ya face man.......VR METAL Huh

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