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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2005, 11:14:39 PM »

i am going to have too

only thing is we dont have a music store here, well we do but its shitty and they dont sell stuff

when i go see my GF *she lives in a big city* im gonna have to make her take me to a music store
if i get a great tube amp and that POD 6.0, i should be set
i can play through the tube amp, mic it and hopefully get an amazing guitar tone.

do u write and record songs Darkburst?
id beinterested in hearing some stuff if u do! ok
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2005, 10:49:59 AM »

i am going to have too

only thing is we dont have a music store here, well we do but its shitty and they dont sell stuff

when i go see my GF *she lives in a big city* im gonna have to make her take me to a music store
if i get a great tube amp and that POD 6.0, i should be set
i can play through the tube amp, mic it and hopefully get an amazing guitar tone.

do u write and record songs Darkburst?
id beinterested in hearing some stuff if u do! ok

Here's two demo / song sketches I have right now:

http://brianromero.com/audio/rock_song_02a.mp3

http://brianromero.com/audio/rock-song-05b.mp3
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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2005, 05:49:05 PM »

i believe im gonna pick this up, what do u all think?


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/s=effects/search/detail/base_pid/150389/



and im gonna go witha  classic crybaby wah pedal and hopefully ill be ready to go
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2005, 06:23:40 PM »

did you ever play it? 


yea I picked up a cry baby for $30 on eBay....  works good as new

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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2005, 07:09:04 PM »

shit 30 bucks?

maybe i should check on there before i buy brand new

ive owned 2 Wah pedals in my life but they always fuck up on me for some reason, i cant figure it out.

im gonna order that distortion pedal, cause its a Line 6 but just the distortion, i figure RNT has a line 6 and his distortion is amazing sounding, so ill get the individual Line 6 distortion


musican's friend is cool as fuck, 45 days from the time u receive your merchandise if u dont like it, u can call get a send back number, mail the shit back and get a full refund

ill order it, if i dont like it, the shit will go back and ill try somethin else.
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2005, 08:10:25 PM »

yes I like MF for certain stuff & they always price match.


anyways...  IMO I wouldnt get that pedal.  line6 is sort of crap.

there are many other options & for the price of that one, you can pick up a couple or a few off of ebay.  damn the Russian Muff is cheaper  for flying warm leads & you can get ds1 cheap which later can be modded nicely.  Even a RAT is pretty kool... I really want one.

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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2005, 08:33:08 PM »

thats interesting

i want a pedal where my solo's sound great and the fuckin thing doesnt buzz like a motherfucker

i want something that really crunches on the riffs but the solo's scream and wail


i dont like ebay cause if something is messed up or sounds shitty u are just stuck. if i order it off MF and it sucks i can get a refund and try something else.
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2005, 08:53:17 PM »

on a clean amp... the Muff sounds awesome with some Delay or reverb for leads. just smooth distortion sustain... but it's noisy if not done right. U might not like it who knows....? not for crunch.? Ibanez TS9 can do it all but its not brutal or on the warm smooth side for leads ....? so then I'd just get a beat up DS1 from Boss. Boss Pedals don't break even though most suck? Grin

but I'm probably just jumping all all over from overdrives to "distortion".? Tongue? which I am ....

'Metal Zone' from Boss has good feedback & I seen pro's using them.? I'm just thinking of an all round good distortion box.   so my vote goes to Metal Zone or DS1 or Rat PROCO

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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2005, 11:38:07 PM »

ive actually heard a whole lot about the boss metal zone

i had a boss pedal when i was younger and it was the raddest fuckin pedal ever, i ended up selling it for like 15 bucks, what  a stupid fuck i was

the distortion was amazing and u could hold the pedal in and it would feedback like hell.

i think ill go with a boss metalzone first, then if i dont like it try the line 6
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2005, 11:56:27 PM »

http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/MT-2/demos.html   Here is a demo on that thing.  I haven't played one but sound pretty kool.

http://guitargeek.com/gearview/67/


& its true its not just for metal....  for my man Warren Haynes uses one. I love this guy & he isn't big on effects ....   simply talant



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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2005, 12:56:43 AM »

ok i know its hard to believe i am a musician with how little i know aboutshit

but do u hook your crybaby up first and then run it to your distortion pedal? or your distortion then your wah?


if u were me *which would suck for u cause then u'd have to love bon jovi hihi* would u get that boss metalzone for 80.00 bucks or go with the Boss ds-1 for 40 bucks?

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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2005, 10:35:58 AM »

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but do u hook your crybaby up first and then run it to your distortion pedal? or your distortion then your wah?
It depends.If you put the distortion pedal first, when you use the wha wha with distortion, the wha wha will sound more agresive, cause when the signal gets to the wha, its already dsitortioned.And If you put the wha wha first...well....the contrary to what I?ve just said will hapen.









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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2005, 01:24:30 PM »

just put the wah first, plus when its off the bypass is truely passive = no tone suck

I dunno D without having them side by side....  the metal zone might be too much if you want blues rock sounds like AFD.

DS1 got over 500 responses at this site:

http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Boss/DS_1_Distortion-01.html

can't go wrong for owning one.

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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2005, 02:51:39 PM »

that does sound great and for 40 bucks? cant really go wrong


thanks guys! ok
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« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2005, 04:03:30 PM »

Wah-wah before distortion. The DS1 is a decent pedal but doesn't sound good unless it's run into a tube amp IMO.
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« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2005, 01:24:30 PM »

im just gonna go with the metal zone, i need the heaviest distortion i can get, cause i am writing heavy shit to go with all my sappy ballads so i have to have something that rocks.
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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2005, 01:09:40 PM »

If you're going to buy a Boss pedal, either get a second hand one and send it to Robert Keeley, or buy one through http://www.robertkeeley.com/  (alternativley he often has a small selection of stuff on ebay, username: keeleyelectronics).

I own one if his modified pedals and I can vouch for the quality.  And they are a lot quieter than the stock pedals.  However, unless you have a good amp, I think you'll still sound like crap with one of these pedals (i've only ever tried one of them admittedly), because these types of pedals only mimic pre-amp distortion, and ther is almost no even order harmonic distortion from them.  That means that for a really decent distortion tone, you need to overdrive your power tubes.  And if you're doing that, then you can't just turn you're pedal off for a clean tone.  Keeley's pedals are great if you have a $2000 amp setup, but if you don't they're only ok. Much better than stock, but still only ok.

I've said it before, and I will say it again, the single best distortion/overdrive unit on the market is the Blackstone II.

If you still want the metal zone, buy one from Keeley.
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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2005, 01:20:59 PM »

those blackstone II cost around 230 bucks though dont they? Shocked

i dont need a pedal to play live with, i just need something to record with

i put the acoustic stuff down first

and then on a seperate track i use the distortion, so i dont need a good clean with the pedal.

im hopefully gonna be getting a pretty good job in a few weeks, so if i do, ill save up and get the blackstone, a marshall stack, a kick ass guitar and all sorts of cool equipment
so i got my fingers crossed that i get it.
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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2005, 02:42:28 PM »

The best distortion pedal ever made - Hot Cake.


Without a doubt, it's phenomenal.


Edit to add: http://harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Crowther_Audio/Hotcake-01.html
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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2005, 02:56:21 PM »

If you're going to buy a Boss pedal, either get a second hand one and send it to Robert Keeley, or buy one through http://www.robertkeeley.com/ (alternativley he often has a small selection of stuff on ebay, username: keeleyelectronics).

I own one if his modified pedals and I can vouch for the quality. And they are a lot quieter than the stock pedals. However, unless you have a good amp, I think you'll still sound like crap with one of these pedals (i've only ever tried one of them admittedly), because these types of pedals only mimic pre-amp distortion, and ther is almost no even order harmonic distortion from them. That means that for a really decent distortion tone, you need to overdrive your power tubes. And if you're doing that, then you can't just turn you're pedal off for a clean tone. Keeley's pedals are great if you have a $2000 amp setup, but if you don't they're only ok. Much better than stock, but still only ok.

I've said it before, and I will say it again, the single best distortion/overdrive unit on the market is the Blackstone II.

If you still want the metal zone, buy one from Keeley.

this is exactly why I suggested a DS1 for now, so when he starts to later upgrade, he'll have the option to have that pedal MODDED if he'd like.  I'd really like to try that Super MOd whatever its called for the DS1....  & it looks pretty phat eheh.


BTW I love my Rat Proco that I mentioned above ------  awesome with chords & sweet high end resonse = sizzle my shizzzle.  TS9 >> Rat >> Muff >> EQ =  I'm happy with my distortion section of my board & I just took off a popular fuzz that I won't be needing.

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