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Guns N' Roses => Dead Horse => Topic started by: Irish gunner II on December 03, 2005, 03:37:49 PM



Title: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Irish gunner II on December 03, 2005, 03:37:49 PM
I have watched this video a load of times but had time to watch it again today after a while and some of the things in the video are pointless IMO. Axl jumping off that ship, tanker thing. Sorry but makes no sense at all. And i think someone said that axl and slash werent in the same shot in that video and they were right. And matt in a bar or wherever it was. Again WTF ? And slash coming out of the water was pointless.

At the end it gives the definition of dillusioned(i think) and that was one way of putting things.

Sorry for ranting but does anybody think this besides me ?
   


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Wooody on December 03, 2005, 03:42:06 PM
slash coming out of the water was badass  : ok:

so is axl jumping off the ship

it may not make much sense but it looks cool and that's all it matters  ;D


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Irish gunner II on December 03, 2005, 03:43:57 PM
Never said it wasnt cool or class, but doesnt make sense and has nothing to do with the song.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Jonathan on December 03, 2005, 04:24:52 PM
Jesus christ! Listen to the lyrics!


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Irish gunner II on December 03, 2005, 07:31:58 PM
I do listen to the lyrics but that video makes no sence half way thru.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Jonathan on December 03, 2005, 09:17:15 PM
I do listen to the lyrics but that video makes no sence half way thru.


The title of the song 'Estranged' explains the rest.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Genesis on December 04, 2005, 01:23:22 AM
And slash coming out of the water was pointless.

That's really cool though. Not everything needs to have a meaning. In that case, Slash climbing on top of a grand piano and throwing his guitar over a cliff is also pointless. But Cool!  ;D


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Albert S Miller on December 04, 2005, 12:32:12 PM
why don't you try adding part 3 of the trilogy to your collection, it is the making of estranged axl explains the making of the video and what its all about, pretty much walks you through it!!!!


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Jonathan on December 04, 2005, 06:02:58 PM
why don't you try adding part 3 of the trilogy to your collection, it is the making of estranged axl explains the making of the video and what its all about, pretty much walks you through it!!!!

It's actually part. 4 of the 'Making of' Trilogy


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: RichardNixon on December 04, 2005, 10:05:01 PM
I think it's the coolest video ever.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Rob on December 05, 2005, 02:59:01 AM
I also think its a cool video.  I'm sure all the weird stuff has some sort of symbolic meaning, but the main thing is it looks cool.  Especially the parts with Slash.  When he rises from the ocean playing the solo...damn that's so fucking cool.  And when he's outside the Rainbow playing the other solo and he's like floating kinda.  That's badass too.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Skeba on December 05, 2005, 05:21:55 AM
If I remember correctly, the dude coming from the ocean is not even Slash, just a double. ..could be wrong though.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Katrin on December 05, 2005, 09:34:47 AM
If I remember correctly, the dude coming from the ocean is not even Slash, just a double. ..could be wrong though.

No, you' re right. You can see it in the "Making of Estranged" vid.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Evolution on December 05, 2005, 09:57:08 AM
The only thing that gets me is the damn CGI dolphin  ???


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Rob on December 05, 2005, 02:30:17 PM
If I remember correctly, the dude coming from the ocean is not even Slash, just a double. ..could be wrong though.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!  I don't know what to believe in anymore.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Captain P?l on December 05, 2005, 02:49:58 PM
If I remember correctly, the dude coming from the ocean is not even Slash, just a double. ..could be wrong though.

No, you' re right. You can see it in the "Making of Estranged" vid.

i always though they had him out for a joke or something.. but i dunno... i really wanna beleave that it really is slash...

cuz you see they are laughing they're arses of when he (the stunt man) comes over...

but what do i know? i just post here


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Bridge on December 05, 2005, 07:10:28 PM
i think someone said that axl and slash werent in the same shot in that video and they were right.

Nope.  Axl and Slash are together during the concert footage.


If I remember correctly, the dude coming from the ocean is not even Slash, just a double. ..could be wrong though.

The guy emerging from the water was a stunt double.  But when he's standing there on top of the water playing, that's really Slash.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Rob on December 06, 2005, 02:12:11 AM
I guess that's acceptable.  I'm just gonna pretend its Slash the whole time.


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Albert S Miller on December 06, 2005, 01:40:32 PM
why don't you try adding part 3 of the trilogy to your collection, it is the making of estranged axl explains the making of the video and what its all about, pretty much walks you through it!!!!

It's actually part. 4 of the 'Making of' Trilogy
  you are so right!  Sorry, I own them all and the whole time I never really paid attention think automatically it was 1,2, and 3, always thought of it that way due to 'Trilogy', I have probably made some silly convo thinking 4 was 3.  Oh well we're all entitled to have a little air on the brain sometimes....


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on December 06, 2005, 02:18:02 PM
Axl jumping of the boat is what I asumed desesperation and he doesn't want to be saved, at the end he was saved in many ways, thats the way I see it, why people can hear and see the video with the heart?


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Bridge on December 06, 2005, 09:00:38 PM
I guess that's acceptable.? I'm just gonna pretend its Slash the whole time.

that's the job of a stuntman.  to make you believe it was the performer doing it all.  just like in the movies


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: Litti10 on December 13, 2005, 04:14:12 PM
Who cares does it mean anything its the best video they could have made for the song so just bit the bullet


Title: Re: Estranged video WTF ?
Post by: D on December 14, 2005, 12:07:48 AM
The dolphin represents Inner Peace and Axl chasin the dolphin symbolizes him chasing it, and when he catches it and is with the dolphin at the end, that means he found his peace.


Jumpin off the ship is basically killing off his old self and tryin to evolve and change into a better version hence the AXL Converse  at the end, just meant he is leaving his old ways behind.


Great thing about GNR is, u have to use your mind to understand it, its not literal.