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WASHINGTON - The 110th Congress convened Thursday with Democrats in control of both the House and Senate for the first time in a dozen years. "Today we make history. Today we change the direction of our country," exulted Rep. Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record), poised to become the first woman speaker in history.


With her grandchildren joining her for the historic moment, Pelosi beamed as her name was placed in nomination and the party-line roll call commenced.

Both Democrats and Republicans alike pledged cooperation despite years of bitter partisanship and gridlock, to try to get the 110th Congress off on a productive note.

House Democrats also were ready to impose a ban on gifts from lobbyists and a clampdown on travel funded by private interests ? measures crafted in response to the ethics scandals that weakened Republicans in last fall's elections.

"The Democrats are back," Pelosi said earlier Thursday. She will lead a fractious House divided 233-202, with Democrats claiming control for the first time since 1994.

In remarks prepared for delivery later after her swearing in later Thursday, Pelosi said: "The election of 2006 was a call to change ? not merely to change the control of Congress, but for a new direction for our country. Nowhere were the American people more clear about the need for a new direction than in
Iraq. The American people rejected an open-ended obligation to a war without end."

Democrats maintain a tenuous hold on a Senate divided 51-49, with ailing South Dakota Democrat Tim Johnson slowly recovering in a Washington hospital weeks after suffering a brain hemorrhage. There are 49 Democrats and 49 Republicans and two independents, who both vote with Democrats.

The fragile Senate margin ensures little Democratic-sponsored legislation can pass without support from at least some Republicans.

"Our efforts are going to be to work in a bipartisan basis in an open fashion to solve the problems of the American people," said new Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

Taking the oath of office were 10 new senators ? eight of them Democrats, Republican Bob Corker of Tennessee and independent Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
Joe Lieberman returned to the Senate for a fourth term after losing a raucous Democratic primary in Connecticut but winning in November running as an Independent.

Vice President Dick Cheney swore in the new and returning senators, beginning with a group including Senate President Pro Tem, Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va. ? third in the line of presidential succession ? elected for a record ninth term. In the gallery overhead, former President Clinton and daughter Chelsea applauded and waved to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, who was sworn in for a second term.

The House has 55 new members, all but 13 of them Democrats. Two of them, Baron Hill of Indiana and Nick Lampson of Texas, had previously served.

As the House gathered, dozens of lawmakers' children and grandchildren joined them on the floor, including Pelosi's six grandchildren.

The day capped the rise of several Democratic veterans to powerful committee posts ? including Charles Rangel of New York as chairman of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee and David Obey on the powerful Appropriations panel ? after 12 dispiriting years in the minority.

House Republicans, meanwhile, adjusted to their unaccustomed roles out of power, grousing about being shut out of any chance to affect the early agenda.

The convening of the Democratic-led Congress also opened a new chapter in the presidency of Bush, who faces divided government as he cements his legacy in his final two years in the White House. Bush had a light public schedule Thursday, intended at least in part to let the new Congress have its day.

House Democrats planned quick action on legislative priorities that included boosting both the minimum wage and stem cell research. Democrats also said they would pressure President Bush to bring the troops home from Iraq.

Reid, a soft-spoken but tough inside player ? took the reins of the notoriously unwieldy Senate, hosting both Democrats and Republicans at a rare closed-door conference Thursday morning in the Old Senate Chamber. The aim was to set a bipartisan mood after years of political rancor.

"Our efforts are going to be to work in a bipartisan basis in an open fashion to solve the problems of the American people," Reid said afterward.

The meeting, said top Senate Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, gave senators in both parties "a chance to express some of their quiet frustrations that we get past the level of partisanship that we've witnessed in recent years."

The Democratic-led Congress also opened a new chapter in the presidency of Bush, who faces divided government as he cements his legacy in his final two years in the White House.

Anti-abortion protesters greeted Pelosi, D-Calif., as she began the day at a prayer service at a Catholic church on Capitol Hill before being sworn in as speaker in the afternoon by Rep. John Dingell (news, bio, voting record), D-Mich., the longest serving member of the House. Pelosi then was to address the House ? and the nation ? in a speech carried live on C-SPAN, which broadcasts all House proceedings, and on cable news networks.

Dingell administered the same oath to former Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., 12 years ago when Republicans seized the House after 40 years of Democratic control ? and he's set to get back his gavel as the chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

House Democrats promised speedy passage of the first six bills on their agenda and a series of stiffer ethics rules.
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2007, 01:34:30 PM »

Great day for America!  ok

The new congress will get more done in one week then the do-nothing congress of the last 6 years did their entire term.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 02:28:20 PM »

Great day for America!? ok

The new congress will get more done in one week then the do-nothing congress of the last 6 years did their entire term.

I couldn't have said it better myself ok
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 02:47:15 PM »

I have guarded optimism.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 01:30:23 PM »

Great day for America!? ok

The new congress will get more done in one week then the do-nothing congress of the last 6 years did their entire term.

 Roll Eyes  Please.  Don't delude yourself into thinking anything will change.  It's going to be the same old song and dance, just new faces.  Need I remind you that your boys have already lied about one of their election promises.  How many more are on the horizon?
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 02:21:07 PM »

Great day for America!  ok

The new congress will get more done in one week then the do-nothing congress of the last 6 years did their entire term.

 Roll Eyes  Please.  Don't delude yourself into thinking anything will change.  It's going to be the same old song and dance, just new faces.  Need I remind you that your boys have already lied about one of their election promises.  How many more are on the horizon?

Lets revisit this thread in 6 months then....until then don't make assumptions.

if the minimum wage increase and the ethics reform go into effect this congress will have done more then the republican one did the last 6 years.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 02:32:52 PM »

Great day for America!  ok

The new congress will get more done in one week then the do-nothing congress of the last 6 years did their entire term.

 Roll Eyes  Please.  Don't delude yourself into thinking anything will change. 

WASHINGTON - The House, in its second day of Democratic reign, changed budget rules that have allowed deficits to swell with lawmakers' pet projects and President Bush's tax cuts.
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2007, 02:39:07 PM »

Great day for America!? ok

The new congress will get more done in one week then the do-nothing congress of the last 6 years did their entire term.

 Roll Eyes? Please.? Don't delude yourself into thinking anything will change.? It's going to be the same old song and dance, just new faces.? Need I remind you that your boys have already lied about one of their election promises.? How many more are on the horizon?

Lets revisit this thread in 6 months then....until then don't make assumptions.

if the minimum wage increase and the ethics reform go into effect this congress will have done more then the republican one did the last 6 years.

So if they pass two pieces of legislation, they will have done more than congress had over 6 years prior? ?Riiiiight. ? ?What you mean to say, and you're entitled to your opinion, is that this congress will try to put through bills you want. ?But, Bush still needs to signoff - let's see that veto power baby. ?The Dems may still lose the Senate and their majority in the House is minimal; they lack the votes to override any veto. ?Will some new legislation come forth? ?Probably, but it's not going to be a 180 from where we were 2 months ago. ?All this media attraction around new work hours and promises is just publicity. ?When things are no different two years from now, it will be back to the finger pointing with no solution offered.

Example:

Reporter: ?"Mr. Democrat Candidate, Iraq is more fucked up than ever and things are going to hell. ?What is your plan to remedy the situation?"

Democrat: ?"BUSH DID IT! ?It's not my fault."

Reporter: ?"But Sir, you voted to goto war and repeatedly funded the operation."

Democrat: ?"I was lied to and changed my mind after the fact - after I sent troops into combat I changed my mind."

Reporter: ?"When you say 'lied' do you mean that you failed to research the situation and voted to send thousands of Americans into harms way? ?That's awfully irresponsible of you."

Democrat: ?"This is the Republicans mess. ?The Democrats are offering a new way."

Reporter: ?"So you mean you voted for a war when it was the popular thing to do, and then when it became unpopular you changed your position. ?That seems to be a luxury that the military and executive branch don't have. ?What is the new way?"

Democrat: "Democrats are an tent of ideas and opinions. ?We're going to do things differently."

Reporter: ?"So you have no real solution, just rhetoric. ? Weren't you claiming change 2 years ago, won the majority in congress, yet things have stayed the same or gotten worse? ?Would it be fair to say your parties platform is to point fingers and blame, focusing on the negative and avoiding any counter all together by bringing other legislation into the light? ?Then when anyone questions your legislation you can just bring up Iraq and deny any involvement?

Democrat: ?"You summed up the Democrat's platform and plan very well."



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What no one is focusing on is that for the first time ever we have an openly elected socialist as a member of our senate. ?That is a very sad thing indeed.
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2007, 02:50:11 PM »

so you back up your position with assumptions and fairy tale/fictional conversations??

And as for Veto power....Bush has used it ONE TIME  hihi

Name something good the rep congress did?
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2007, 02:53:57 PM »

I could name a couple.? Mass pay increases for our Military as they were very underpaid from the Clinton era.? Preventing the AWB from being renewed.? I could surely find many more, but these are the first two that popped up.? Considering it's been a Republican congres for 12 years, are you saying nothing good has come from Congress since 1994?

I don't think my story was too far off.  After all, that was the Democrats battle cry the past year.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2007, 03:06:06 PM »

I could name a couple.  Mass pay increases for our Military as they were very underpaid from the Clinton era.  Preventing the AWB from being renewed.  I could surely find many more, but these are the first two that popped up.  Considering it's been a Republican congres for 12 years, are you saying nothing good has come from Congress since 1994?

I don't think my story was too far off.  After all, that was the Democrats battle cry the past year.

Unlike bush, Clinton was much more compromising and worked with his Republican congress to pass legislation.  Ever since 2000, The repubs have had ZERO excuses for not getting their legislation passed the way they want it.

Please find more, b/c your examples are not mind blowing.  I'm glad the military got more money, they deserve it.  Especially these days.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2007, 03:20:10 PM »

  Mass pay increases for our Military as they were very underpaid from the Clinton era.

While cutting benefits for vets at the same time.


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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2007, 03:22:06 PM »

  Mass pay increases for our Military as they were very underpaid from the Clinton era.

While cutting benefits for vets at the same time.




Good point, I forgot about that.  Disgraceful.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2007, 03:44:40 PM »

Hope the restroom arrangements don't affect Pelosi's productivity.? If I were her, I'd use the men's room.? Seriously.

There isn't a better example of how the sexes are treated differently in Congress than the toilet situation.

The House men's room is just a few steps from the House floor and features a fireplace, a shoeshine stand, giant windows, TVs showing the floor proceedings, and an attendant.

Getting to the ladies' loo involves wading through crouds of gawking tourists in Statuary Hall, going through another room and down a cluttered corridor of offices into a cramped, windowless room with just three stalls.


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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2007, 06:28:12 PM »

i agree with guns n rockmusic 100%

Great day for America!? ok

The new congress will get more done in one week then the do-nothing congress of the last 6 years did their entire term.

 Roll Eyes? Please.? Don't delude yourself into thinking anything will change.? It's going to be the same old song and dance, just new faces.? Need I remind you that your boys have already lied about one of their election promises.? How many more are on the horizon?
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2007, 07:36:05 PM »

I'll say Guns N rockmusic makes a good point about the decision to go to war and the lack of real research.  Are congressmen/women shielded from the intelligence community?  Basically, it's pretty shitty that everybody just believed everything fed to them by the top of the chain at the White House. (me included at first)  If it's allowed, you can bet your ass that Congress will be hounding the intelligence community like hell the next time this country is preparing for war.   peace
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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2007, 11:56:17 PM »

I'll say Guns N rockmusic makes a good point about the decision to go to war and the lack of real research.  Are congressmen/women shielded from the intelligence community?  Basically, it's pretty shitty that everybody just believed everything fed to them by the top of the chain at the White House. (me included at first)  If it's allowed, you can bet your ass that Congress will be hounding the intelligence community like hell the next time this country is preparing for war.   peace

Bush was told the info was no good by the CIA. Bush told the lie and many fell for it, caught up in the emotional aftermath of 9-11. He completely exploited the tragedy of 9-11, and lied to the world.

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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2007, 12:55:41 AM »

Again, you have never and will never proove it was a lie.  A lie implies intentional deceit.  But for intellectual purposes, lets say that Bush did take advantage of the emotional state.  Should we excuse Congressman who we elect to be professional, research the issue and be above reactionary measures?  Any prudent person will say no.  But admitting that your party screwed the pooch as much as anyone else hurts your position.  You choose to be an emotional reactionary rather than an objective thinker.  Everything about your posts, from ideas to pictures, indicates this.  You're just as quick to cater to emotion and what's popular as the created, deceitful President you point fingers at.
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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2007, 01:33:44 AM »

Again, you have never and will never proove it was a lie. 

You are sad.

Top CIA officials have come forward to say that they told Bush the "intel" was not from a trusted source, and INSTRUCTED HIM to take it out of his speech that week (in Kansas.) They instructed him to take it out because it was not true.

Bush chose to include what HE KNEW was false info in the next speech (state of the union.) If that ain't lying, then I don't know what else to call it. The fact that no WMD were found only prove what the CIA told Bush was true: the intel was faulty.

One more time, mmkay? Bush ignored the CIA and used bogus (after he was told it was bogus) "intel" as a reason to go to war. The CIA TOLD HIM TO TAKE IT OUT, but Bush ignored that and used it anyway-telling the world. That's called lying. A child could understand that, it's pretty simple.
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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2007, 04:58:34 PM »

ANYONE who thinks that this was DOES NOT belong to Bush, Cheney and the other Neo-Cons is a moron.  Plain and simple.

Anyways, the point of this thread is to look forward, not backward, with a new congress in place.

Lets see how Bush handles Iraq with 2 years left on his term and what Congress does as well.  He is already pissing EVERYONE off by adding more troops.
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