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Title: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:05:29 PM
im not sure the chords work for that last part after the small break-down.....and that sounds like robin singing....IMO...bad move...get axl to sing that chorus with a different melody....or change the chord progression with robin and/or axl singing....

but otherwise....an incredible song......thank you axl rose, it made the wait seem like nothing, it was worth it!!!! even if this is all we ever get...this song is THAT good (just please change that last part when the clip ends?!?!?!l)


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: tinyrobot on February 16, 2006, 11:07:00 PM
hmmm.... SHUT UP!  :D


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:08:03 PM
OK Xozi....






 ::)


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: axl2 on February 16, 2006, 11:11:54 PM
Agreed on the song but I wont make an opinion on the chorus till I can hear it better...its not a good sample


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 11:13:52 PM
im not sure the chords work for that last part after the small break-down.....and that sounds like robin singing....IMO...bad move...get axl to sing that chorus with a different melody....or change the chord progression with robin and/or axl singing....

but otherwise....an incredible song......thank you axl rose, it made the wait seem like nothing, it was worth it!!!! even if this is all we ever get...this song is THAT good (just please change that last part when the clip ends?!?!?!l)

will someone please remove w 23 axl ii head from Axl's ass


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:16:34 PM
I think this should be the first single as well....this will kick the world's ass...that intro is SO catchy, and the rest is basically....MAGIC!



i dont know, am i crazy.....or is this really one of the greatest songs you've ever heard? im mean...there's no denying....axl sounds incredible. sweet guitars..everything is catchy.....as a single, across the globe, this will be HUGE


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: metallex78 on February 16, 2006, 11:17:43 PM
im not sure the chords work for that last part after the small break-down.....and that sounds like robin singing....IMO...bad move...get axl to sing that chorus with a different melody....or change the chord progression with robin and/or axl singing....

but otherwise....an incredible song......thank you axl rose, it made the wait seem like nothing, it was worth it!!!! even if this is all we ever get...this song is THAT good (just please change that last part when the clip ends?!?!?!l)

I'm the complete opposite. I think that's where it starts to get good, I think they should trash the start of the song if anything.

And that does NOT sound like Robin Finck singing to me, it's just Axl with a deep voice.


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on February 16, 2006, 11:18:04 PM
I  think the ending  before it cuts off is the best part


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 11:18:28 PM
^^ you got all that from 80 seconds.....man it doesn't take much to impress you at all^^



Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: loretian on February 16, 2006, 11:19:02 PM
The ending right before it cuts off sounds badass.  And I'm pretty sure it's Axl singing with one or more of the guys (robin, tommy) singing backup


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:19:44 PM
true, its only 80 secs, but from what we got, it sounds perfect. not good, or great.......perfect.


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: MR W,AXL ROSE on February 16, 2006, 11:20:11 PM
i think its an amazing song and i cant wait for the full version.but as for the chorus,i need to hear more of it to comment on it ?:beer:


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:21:42 PM
that last part just gets too mid 90's for my liking.....im sure this is a bad comparison, but it sounds too Alice in Chains or something....the verse chord progression is sweet, the melody is sweet....it all works. but i can see where you guys like the fact that the chorus gets heavier.


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: metallex78 on February 16, 2006, 11:22:49 PM
I? think the ending? before it cuts off is the best part

For the first time in a long time, I'm actually in agreeance with you about something for once Dave : ok:
Isn't it nice when we all get along ;D


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:23:13 PM
whoever posted before about Slash and Duff's reaction to each other after listening to this song was hysterical.


 :-\.............. :-\


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 11:29:43 PM
true, its only 80 secs, but from what we got, it sounds perfect. not good, or great.......perfect.

I think the song has potential, but I feel like the Ethiopian who has a big filet mignon in front of them and they are told they can't eat it.....

though it does sound like it cut off right before it got really good.....

that being said, to say it's one of the best GnR songs ever after 80 sec is one of the most, if not the most ludicrous coment I ever heard : ok: :hihi:



Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:31:55 PM
ok, your opinion. listen to the track....where has axl sounded that intense before? there's a new clarity in his voice, it sounds rejuvinated.


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 11:38:58 PM
ok, your opinion. listen to the track....where has axl sounded that intense before? there's a new clarity in his voice, it sounds rejuvinated.


how about, every song on Appetie he sounds that intense, and 10'xs more sincere

ever here the last 3 minutes of Coma......it brught tears to my eyes....

the only emotional reaction I got from this was shock  :ob/c it's new material I like

again, a matter of taste and opinion


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 11:39:13 PM
ok, your opinion. listen to the track....where has axl sounded that intense before? there's a new clarity in his voice, it sounds rejuvinated.


how about, every song on Appetie he sounds that intense, and 10'xs more sincere

ever here the last 3 minutes of Coma......it brught tears to my eyes....

the only emotional reaction I got from this was shock ?:ob/c it's new material I like

again, a matter of taste and opinion


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: FlashFlood on February 16, 2006, 11:39:39 PM
if you dont like that part you are crazy and need to get your ears checked


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: blasphemer on February 16, 2006, 11:42:38 PM
im not sure the chords work for that last part after the small break-down.....and that sounds like robin singing....IMO...bad move...get axl to sing that chorus with a different melody....or change the chord progression with robin and/or axl singing....

but otherwise....an incredible song......thank you axl rose, it made the wait seem like nothing, it was worth it!!!! even if this is all we ever get...this song is THAT good (just please change that last part when the clip ends?!?!?!l)

Are you stupid, thats right where the song starts to kick in, it sounds awesome then it just quits.  Man your dumb as hell.


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:48:18 PM
its a matter of opinion. i like the catchiness, to me, that part is not working. but the intro is AMAZING and very creative...verse, pre-chorus....just amazing.

but anyway.....how can we think this is NOT axl's camp leaking....i mean, didn't axl just play the songs in nyc at a club??? all of a sudden, songs appear online....?????? i mean, put two and two together.......someone is testing the waters.....to my eyes, its axl.


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: killingvector on February 16, 2006, 11:50:50 PM
I like the way it is going. :)


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: Neemo on February 16, 2006, 11:51:08 PM
yes this song sounds pretty cool, so far, but how can you possibly judge 1/4 of a song? we hve no idea what the rest sounds like, take irs for example, the intro sounds nothing like the middle and the outro is killer. we have no idea till we know what the whole song sounds like


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: jmapelian on February 16, 2006, 11:52:24 PM
I actually didn't lie the INTRO

and thought the song started to sound good until it cut off


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:55:05 PM
wait....are the drums live or programmed????? obviously the intro is a drum sample, but i mean when it kicks....id hate to think brain's not on this, and its just a very smart producer working some magic.


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: Neemo on February 16, 2006, 11:57:04 PM
wait....are the drums live or programmed????? obviously the intro is a drum sample, but i mean when it kicks....id hate to think brain's not on this, and its just a very smart producer working some magic.

the wes dude said it was a drum machine, so take that for what it's worth


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: dave-gnfnr2k on February 16, 2006, 11:57:27 PM
wait....are the drums live or programmed????? obviously the intro is a drum sample, but i mean when it kicks....id hate to think brain's not on this, and its just a very smart producer working some magic.

I think CD the album is gonna have both


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on February 16, 2006, 11:59:02 PM
I really, really like it.. At first I was iffy about axl singing over the intro guitar but now it's growing on me and when it changes oh, it sounds awesome, I love it!!!!! ? I really want to hear the rest :) ?*hopes for part 2*


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 16, 2006, 11:59:36 PM
 i guess who knows, for all we know, the bridge could be where the live drums slam in with some crazy beats!


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 17, 2006, 12:02:25 AM
double tallkin.....i agree....at first the intro was just like...different....then after awhile, i was becoming mesmorized....now, im like thats the coolest intro ive heard in a loooooong time......then, when it kicks, its incredible!



(although...lol......i have to admit, Madonna's single "Hung Up" had a pretty cool intro too!!)


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on February 17, 2006, 12:06:52 AM
Where do people get that it's not Axl singing the chorus?  ??? Sounds just like him...


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on February 17, 2006, 12:15:05 AM
double tallkin.....i agree....at first the intro was just like...different....then after awhile, i was becoming mesmorized....now, im like thats the coolest intro ive heard in a loooooong time......then, when it kicks, its incredible!



(although...lol......i have to admit, Madonna's single "Hung Up" had a pretty cool intro too!!)


 :beer:


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: BLS-Pride on February 17, 2006, 12:18:55 AM
Damn i hope I hear it

*cough*Someone help a brother out*


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: -Jack- on February 17, 2006, 12:29:08 AM
Actually I don't like the last part that much. I think the intro is amazingly poppy/sincere.. and thats a good thing if Axl wants to put GN'R back on top.

I think its important to remember that we've only heard 1:20 of the song..  imagine if you only heard 1:20 of coma.. or November Rain/Estranged. Your almost missing the whole thing.

All we need is just a little patience...


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: W 23 AXL II on February 17, 2006, 12:34:08 AM
Actually I don't like the last part that much. I think the intro is amazingly poppy/sincere.. and thats a good thing if Axl wants to put GN'R back on top.


I AGREE 100%


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: GnR-NOW on February 17, 2006, 12:54:40 AM
from what i heard, i thought better sounded fucking awesome, i hope CD comes out this year because this song kicked ass. i hope there are no more leaks though because when CD comes up i dont want to anticipate anything on it.  and i think its alittle more then coincidental that axl mentions better as one of his fav songs and now theres a leak with a ton of positive reaction.  i cant imagine what it ll be like when CD is released


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: sergejg on February 17, 2006, 01:06:08 AM
This song should definatley be the first single. We have only heard like 80 secs and we are already totally into it. The chorus or prechorus seems great to me, after all in the old GNR duff, Slash and Izzy did sing in a lot of songs.


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: BLS-Pride on February 17, 2006, 01:17:08 AM
The begining I am still undecided about.. But when it kicks in.. Sounds great to me.


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: Lucky on February 17, 2006, 01:40:40 PM
it's defenitely worth putting on a repeat!!!
And I like every second of it!

nothing is to be changed!!!
I love the cellphone like ringing in the background...


Title: Re: "Better" is one of the best gnr songs EVER, until that last part!!!!!
Post by: Lesty on February 17, 2006, 02:10:55 PM
How can you say this is one of the best GnR songs ever?
Are you serious? A 90 second demo is released, and you're putting it alongside songs like Sweet Child of Mine, You Could be Mine and Rocket Queen?
I know you're excited, but relax....enjoy the demo and wait for the actual final version to come out (along with the rest of CD) before you make such a claim.