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« Reply #240 on: July 16, 2009, 12:32:50 AM »

First ever footage of Michael Jackson's hair being set on fire...

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/07/15/michael-jackson-pepsi-ad-footage-unearthed-from-1984-shoot/

Scary stuff!  Though it does sort of look like a bunch of gangbangers coming to kick his ass once they first rush the stage...
I know that had to be scary for him because it didn't look like he knew his hair was on fire.  Though the fire extinguisher probably gave it away.  Sucks to think that could've been THE incident that got him hooked on pain killers.
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« Reply #241 on: July 16, 2009, 02:55:26 PM »

Clip of a new song Michael Jackson was working, from TMZ: http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3
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« Reply #242 on: July 16, 2009, 05:52:11 PM »

First ever footage of Michael Jackson's hair being set on fire...

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/07/15/michael-jackson-pepsi-ad-footage-unearthed-from-1984-shoot/

Scary stuff!  Though it does sort of look like a bunch of gangbangers coming to kick his ass once they first rush the stage...
I know that had to be scary for him because it didn't look like he knew his hair was on fire.  Though the fire extinguisher probably gave it away.  Sucks to think that could've been THE incident that got him hooked on pain killers.

apparently thats when his obsession with plastic surgery started as well Undecided
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« Reply #243 on: July 16, 2009, 06:25:50 PM »

Clip of a new song Michael Jackson was working, from TMZ: http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/071609_michael.mp3

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« Reply #244 on: July 16, 2009, 11:34:40 PM »

Reminds me a lot of Horse With No Name.
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« Reply #245 on: July 17, 2009, 12:29:34 AM »

Reminds me a lot of Horse With No Name.
Yeah the TMZ article I read said he paid for the rights for "Horse With No Name" so he could use the same beat, song structure, etc.  Sounds pretty good, in that short clip.
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« Reply #246 on: July 17, 2009, 09:57:04 AM »

The author of "Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson" was on the Howard Stern show earlier this week and he gave quite an interesting interview.  This is a bit lengthy but it's a good read.

http://www.marksfriggin.com/news.htm#wed

Author Ian Halperin Talks About Michael Jackson Molestation Case. 07/15/09. 7:50am
Howard said that this author Ian Halperin was working on a book about Michael Jackson (Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson) and found that he wasn't a child molester. Ian said he set out to nail Michael Jackson but he found out that he wasn't what he expected.
Ian told Howard that in 2005 he thought that Jackson was guilty so he set out on this odyssey to find everything he could. He said he found that 4 years later he didn't molest any kids. He said that what he found in the court documents and things like that proved that he wasn't a child molester.

Ian said that Joe Jackson treated his son like crap and beat the crap out of him. He said that anyone who knew Michael as a child would be able to tell you that. Howard said that's what it seems like and Joe is claiming that he's the one who molded his son into the performer he was.

Ian said that there are a lot of people coming out of the woodwork right now who weren't there for Michael in the past couple of years. They're all coming out and supporting him now that he's gone.

Ian said Michael didn't want his father around him either. He said that all he wanted was Michael's money. He said he burned Michael repeatedly and Michael didn't trust him. He said that Michael didn't get the proper childhood and that's why we saw him with kids all the time. He loved kids and always tried to help them. He said he tried to bring people together and used Neverland to do that.

Ian said that Michael Jackson is not a child molester. He said he dug up a court document from 1993 that showed that Michael was forced to settle that case and he was insisting not to settle but the insurance company forced him to. He said that the kid, Jordan Chandler, claimed that Jackson was circumcised and had blotches on his penis. The cops raided his house and made him strip down to be photographed. It turns out he was uncircumcised and Jordan's description didn't match.

Howard said he didn't know the insurance company made him settle. Ian said that all of this is in his book. He said that in 2005 there was another case and the people involved weren't that credible. Ian said he came there and wanted to crack the story. He said he spoke to Johnny Cochran one time and Johnny told him that they didn't win their case, the prosecution lost their case.

Ian said that he doesn't truest Debbie Rowe either. He said that she's trying to extort money from the family to avoid taking her kids from them. He said that's just not right and he would never do such a thing with his own kids.

Ian said that Michael was a great father from what he could tell. He said he met Michael in person but never got to interview the kids. He said that the time Michael held the kid over the balcony he was high on drugs. He said that you have to look at the doctors who were giving him that stuff.

Howard asked Ian about Jackson's kids and how he kept them in masks all the time. The kids don't even know other kids because of that. Ian said that Michael was the most famous person out there and he was trying to protect them from the paparazzi. He said it makes sense and he home schooled them himself. Howard and Robin sounded shocked by that. Ian said that Michael was very educated. He said that he studied everything and he was very literate. He said he was well read too.

Howard said that Ian predicted that Michael only had about 6 months to love about 6 months ago. He asked Ian about that and how that prediction came about. Ian said that he checked into some private medical records and found that he could die at any second because he had anorexia, lung disease and some other health issues. He said that he could have died of a heart attack based on the anorexia alone.

Howard asked if Michael knew about the book. Ian said that he did and he was supportive of it when he found out that he was sympathetic.

Ian said that his book came out in December and Jackson's people said that it was a complete fabrication. He said that they then planned the 50 show tour and expected Jackson to do all of that.

Howard said that they claim that Jackson was a schizophrenic. Ian said that's what he was told. He didn't make that claim himself. He said that Joe Jackson turned a blind eye to that and didn't get him help. All he wanted to do was make as much money as possible. Ian said he hopes that the child welfare intervenes and doesn't let Joe get custody of the kids. He said that they might think that they have another Michael Jackson on their hands.

Howard said he saw that Debbie Rowe, the mother of the kids, doesn't even want the kids. She has never wanted them but now she's trying to get money from the family and claiming that she does want the kids. Ian said Joe wants the kids and wants to put them on tour and to give them record deals.

Howard said that now that the kids are out of their masks nothing crazy has happened. Ian said Michael just wanted to keep them out of the spotlight. The family went against his wishes and exposed the kids to the world. They're just trying to make money off of Michael.

Howard asked about Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie Presley. Ian said that he had infiltrated the church of Scientology and he heard a lot of talk about getting Michael to join. They used Lisa Marie to get to Michael. That's what that was all about. He said that there were people claiming that's what happened and they asked Lisa go marry the guy to get him involved with the church.

Howard asked why it would be so important to Lisa Marie to get him into that church. He said he had Lisa Marie on the show and she claims that she was really in love with Michael. He doesn't get why she would want to be involved with the church in that way though.

Ian said that it's rumored that Lisa Marie was pressured to marry Michael. He said he's not sure if that's true or not. Then there's the homosexuality thing. Ian claims that he found out that there are some men out there who claim that they have had homosexual encounters with Michael Jackson.

Ian said he heard rumors from Michael's mother that he was gay. He said he heard that she called him a ''fag.'' Ian said he looked into the allegations and found 8 men who claimed that they had slept with Michael. He said that he found 8 but only went with 3 because he needed extreme corroboration to make sure they were being real. He said that he found out that Michael would dress up as a woman when he was with these guys. Ian said that he would dress as a woman to get out of the hotels without being recognized. He would get rooms in Las Vegas that had cockroaches in them. He said he found out about one construction worker in Vegas and the guy had time lines and all of the information that he needed to prove that he had been with him.

Ian said that Jackson didn't come out as being gay because he thought people would think he was a pedophile. He said that Jackson was also afraid that being black and gay would be even tougher than being white and gay. Ian also claims that several people told Jackson that he shouldn't come out because of the race factor.

Ian said that Michael did fall in love with some gay men. He said that he liked guys who were 18-23 years old. Howard asked if they were muscular guys. Ian said they were toned guys and the construction worker was Asian. Howard asked if there was anything kinky going on. Ian said that they claimed that he liked to lick the guy's ''lollipops.''

Howard asked Ian how Michael met this construction worker. Ian said Michael was living in Vegas at the time and he was roaming around meeting them. He met a waiter in a restaurant and the next night they were in a hotel together.

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« Reply #247 on: July 17, 2009, 09:57:34 AM »

Howard asked Ian about his book and found out he worked for 5 years on it. He did 5 years of research. He said this was his 12th book and he had to max out some credit cards while he was working on it. He said he did get an advance but not enough to last 5 years. He said he had to take a risk though.

Ian told Howard about he and his wife breaking up and how things are still okay between them. He said that they're both artists and they just had to get away from each other.

Ian said he really thinks that the courts have to step in and take the kids away from the Jackson family. He said he doesn't trust the Jacksons or even Debbie Rowe. He said they might need to be put into a family other than both of those.

Ian told Howard that Michael wanted the kids to go to his mother or Diana Ross. Howard asked why he would give the kids to a woman who could have been a part of the mental abuse. Ian said there is talk that there might be another will out there and the one that's out there now isn't going to hold up.

Howard said he has changed his will a bunch of times. He said he changes it whenever he's mouthed off to. He said he's changed it about 10 times.

Ian said that they have to look at the doctors in the Jackson case and also into the police force. Howard asked Ian if he believes what's going on around this guy. Howard said he's not sure why they're so fascinated by the whole thing.

Howard gave Ian a plug for his book ''Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson.'' The book is at number 2 on the best seller list right now.

Robin asked if Michael was obsessed with Nazis. Ian said that he did have some Nazi outfits and he would wear them around the house. Ian said that he had some songs about the Jews and he was bitter about the way he was treated by some Jews.

Howard asked if he really slept in a hyperbaric chamber. Ian said that was true too. He said that Michael knew how to spin a tale. Ian said Michael had plastic surgery and claimed it was only twice. They know better than that. He said he was trying to change his look so he didn't look like anyone in his family.

Howard said that Michael blamed Tommy Mottola for one of his albums tanking and Tommy had to talk some sense into the guy. He said that Michael was about the blame game but then he'd go out and spend all of his money on all kinds of nonsense. Ian said he made some bad decisions and he was millions of dollars in debt when he died.

Howard said the one thing that kept him afloat was the Beatles catalog that he bought. Ian said that was the only thing that kept him going.

Howard said Michael had assets but it didn't all balance out. Ian said he was living in Dubai for a while and he was being supported by some guy out there. He said that's the only reason he thought about doing the come back.

Ian said that he was on a show in London the day he announced his tour and told them that the concerts would never happen. Ian said that he was proven right when he made that prediction.

Howard asked Ian if he liked his music. Howard said he never liked it. Ian asked if he had ever danced to any of his songs. Howard said he never did. He said he can't even dance to any song. He demonstrated for Ian and then went over and danced with Ian. Robin said that's the first guest Howard has ever danced with like that.

Ian said that Michael's music as moving for him. Howard said he didn't like it. They spent a minute going back and forth on that. Artie said that the dancing is going to be number one on Howard TV for months once it airs.

Howard took a call from a guy who said that this guy's story doesn't check out. He said that the guy has just been sucking Michael off. He said that there's no way Michael was out in Vegas dressing like a woman and going out. Howard said he thinks that he could have done that. Ian defended himself and said that he's got the proof in his book.

Howard said that when he was dating he was able to get about 1,300 lovers in 2 weeks and he was able to keep it quiet and secret. Howard said that there are ways to be clandestine about what you're doing and he thinks that Michael could have done that kind of thing.

Ian said that Michael was gay and ''so what?'' He said that he finds it highly insulting that this caller is saying what he's saying. He said that the important thing is getting the kids help and not bashing Michael Jackson. He said that they should let the guy rest in peace.

Irish John called in and said that there were a lot of allegations about Michael giving alcohol to kids. He asked if that was true. Ian said there was truth to that. He said that Jackson had alcohol addiction and he had to go to rehab for that. No one but Liz Taylor did anything about it. She urged him to check into rehab.

John asked what the purpose of giving the kids alcohol. Ian said that Martin Bashir did an interview with Jackson and Bashir used Jackson while he was addicted to drugs to manipulate him. He said that Jackson had a lapse of judgment and he suffered the consequences.

Ian said that Jackson loved kids and he didn't want to have sex with them, he just wanted to bring kids together. Irish John asked him if he ever ''infiltrated'' Jackson himself. Howard said that was a little too much and cut John off.

Howard talked to Ian about Jackson sleeping with young boys. Ian said he wouldn't let his kids do that but there are some people who were okay with that.

Another caller said that Howard's bullshit meter should be going crazy with this guy. He said that this guy has to be making this stuff up. Ian said that he has to read the book before he says that. The caller said that this guy wrote the book to sell. Artie said there isn't any other reason to write a book.

Ian said that he wrote the book before Michael died. He said that the book was on the presses when he died and he had to stop them and add a chapter and change the title of the book. He said that he should read the book before he bashes it though.

Mariann from Brooklyn called in and asked him why he didn't call social services about him. Howard said Ian thinks that he was a good father. Ian said that if you present him with the smoking gun then he'll write about that. He said he wrote about what he found. He said he set out to nail the guy but it turns out he couldn't. He said he thought that they had another OJ on their hands but that's not what he found.

Artie asked Ian if he thinks that he was such a junkie that he would really shoot up in his neck. Ian said that he was a junkie and he wouldn't have been alive without some of the drugs he was on. He said that Jackson had to deliver the goods and he had become despondent toward the end. He said that the AEG people put out the video of Jackson were saying that he was perfectly healthy the day after he died.

Ian said that they examined the video and they're saying that Jackson wasn't in fine form and he was out of sync and even Jackson said that he felt like a marathon runner after doing just one song. He wasn't going to be able to pull off the tour.

Artie said that maybe AEG had a motive to murder the guy if he was worth more dead than alive. Ian said that they could have gone bankrupt if he hadn't been able to pull it off. Howard said he thinks that they thought that he was going to pull it off and they weren't out to get the guy. Ian said he's not claiming murder. He said that he's pretty sure that the authorities have their act together out there and know what they're doing.

Robin asked how Michael passed a physical for the tour. Ian said that he offered to pay for a medical exam to find out what the real deal was.

Howard asked if Neverland is going to become some kind of shrine for Jackson. Ian said it will. He was bailed out by a guy and he's part owner in that ranch. He said he's got details on that as well and he has barely hit the tip of the iceberg with what he's spoken about today. Howard said that he's given away so much that people won't want to buy the book.

Howard gave Ian some more plugs for his book and thanked him for coming in. He told him to do his next book on the life of Artie Lange. Artie said he's writing that book himself. Howard had to go to break a short time later.
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« Reply #248 on: July 17, 2009, 10:43:12 AM »

That was intense. i wonder how much of it is true?
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« Reply #249 on: July 17, 2009, 10:57:23 AM »

That was intense. i wonder how much of it is true?

I don't believe any of the homosexuality stuff.

Scratch that... I just went and re-read the whole thing, and his story just gets more and more over-the-top and bullshit as it goes along.  Classic example of a guy trying to cash in.
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« Reply #250 on: August 10, 2009, 05:29:31 PM »

i just figured it all out

he's not dead, he's faking.

Think about it, he was schedualed to do a shit load of shows to help settle his debt so he faked his own death so his record sells would go up as well as any other crap with his name on it. and from what i've heard, thats exactly whats been going on. thats why they haven't burried him yet.

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« Reply #251 on: August 10, 2009, 07:10:38 PM »

i just figured it all out

he's not dead, he's faking.

Think about it, he was schedualed to do a shit load of shows to help settle his debt so he faked his own death so his record sells would go up as well as any other crap with his name on it. and from what i've heard, thats exactly whats been going on. thats why they haven't burried him yet.

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It would be cool if a megastar could fake their death one day.  But I don't think that's the case here.
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« Reply #252 on: August 10, 2009, 07:22:03 PM »

i just figured it all out

he's not dead, he's faking.

Think about it, he was schedualed to do a shit load of shows to help settle his debt so he faked his own death so his record sells would go up as well as any other crap with his name on it. and from what i've heard, thats exactly whats been going on. thats why they haven't burried him yet.

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« Reply #253 on: August 10, 2009, 09:09:07 PM »

i just figured it all out

he's not dead, he's faking.

Think about it, he was schedualed to do a shit load of shows to help settle his debt so he faked his own death so his record sells would go up as well as any other crap with his name on it. and from what i've heard, thats exactly whats been going on. thats why they haven't burried him yet.

peace

....And he would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't fer them pesky kids.
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« Reply #254 on: August 10, 2009, 10:24:24 PM »

He just bought 2Pac and JFK another round of rum and Cokes in Cuba.
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« Reply #255 on: August 11, 2009, 07:14:18 AM »

A documentary including rehearsal footage as well as other behind the scenes stuff, called "This Is It" will be released in cinemas all over the world on October 30th, 2009.  It was announced yesterday... I'll be there. Grin
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« Reply #256 on: August 11, 2009, 08:35:34 AM »

Also

Jermaine Jackson Confirms Michael Jackson Tribute For Vienna
by Music-News.com - August 11 2009


Jermaine Jackson appeared on The Michael Jackson Show starring Larry King again and has confirmed there will be a tribute show for his brother.


A Michael Jackson tribute show is to be staged in Vienna.

Events promoter World Awards Media GmbH confirmed the concert today (10.08.09), saying it will feature members of the late 'King of Pop?s family, including brother Jermaine, and a 'high-profile line-up of international stars'.

The organisation said on its website: 'For one incredible night Michael Jackson's unforgettable music will be brought to life again. Some of the world's leading artists will perform Michael's greatest hits live in Vienna in front of one of the most fascinating historical sites in Europe and celebrate the life of the 'King of Pop?.'

Jermaine adds on the site: 'I am very proud to be able to stage this concert honoring my younger brother Michael and his legacy. The tribute is conceived to be an annual event to keep not only his unique music alive, but his spirit as well. Michael loved people and he also loved to help people and that will never be forgotten. His life was much too short, yet it was filled with many magic moments and lasting memories. I have lost a dear brother, but the world has lost a great and caring humanitarian.'

Then event is to take place at the Schoenbrunn Palace ? which can accommodate 85,000 people - in the Austrian capital next month, and will feature a crown-shaped stage.

Further details are yet to be released, although tickets will go on sale on August 20.

Unconfirmed reports suggest U2, Madonna, Lionel Richie and Whitney Houston could all be performing.

It was originally thought a tribute show might take place on what would have been Michael?s 51st birthday on August 29, but that idea has now been dismissed.

World Awards Media?s Georg Kindel explained: 'That would have been an extreme logistical challenge.'

Michael was due to stage 50-night residency in London starting just a few weeks after his death on June 25, and many had presumed a concert in honour of him would take place in the UK capital.

However, Jermaine recently claimed Vienna was of special importance to Michael.

He said: 'Vienna was a very dear place for Michael. And he loved castles. And we're going to have this huge celebration in front of a castle.'

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« Reply #257 on: August 12, 2009, 01:18:53 AM »

He just bought 2Pac and JFK another round of rum and Cokes in Cuba.

you forgot big E


is anyone else wishing he was still alive just so TV guide, CNN, and msnbc would shut the fuck up about him? seriously, enoughs enough
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« Reply #258 on: August 12, 2009, 04:47:48 AM »

Nope... I'm wishing he was still alive for purely unselfish reasons instead.
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« Reply #259 on: August 12, 2009, 07:49:41 AM »

He just bought 2Pac and JFK another round of rum and Cokes in Cuba.

you forgot big E


is anyone else wishing he was still alive just so TV guide, CNN, and msnbc would shut the fuck up about him? seriously, enoughs enough
Yes I agree!! Last nights TV guide had all these potential people claiming to be either the birth mom of the first two children, another lady claiming to be Blankets mom, and two different men claiming to be doners, while Jermaine is claiming Michael to be bio to the oldest two.  I have to admit this is wierder all the time.  How is it possible he has these three children and no one seems to know who their parents truely are, at least biologicaly. 
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