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i think that since i don't have you should not be on there.

All the covers, but perhaps if we had to choose one of the covers to be on the album, it'd be 'Ain't it fun'.

I'm not quite sure what filling tracks entails.  Perhaps you could elaborate a little bit?

I like Since I Don't have you. Ain't It Fun and SFTD should have been replaced by NT and Estranged

Assuming you meant feel, and not fill, I'd say the covers too.  KOHD should be there, but not the rest.

i'm sorry i misspelled feel. lol . i think that there are way too many covers on that album. they should have replaced since i don't have you with nightrain and replace sympathy for the devil with don't damn me .

this thread was posted about a month ago

LALD,SIDHY, Yesterdays & AIF

The covers.

Initially: none of them: the album shouldn?t exist for now.

But since it?s here: Ain?t It Fun out. Estranged in.
                                Civil War out. Mr. Brownstone in.

Album should not exist until GN'R is done.  Maybe this is a sign of BAD or possibly good who knows?  Wheres Night Train, Mr. Brownstone, Estranged, Coma.  All the covers need to be booted fuck this CD...I bought it and love that theres "new" GN'R material but what the hell.  We deserve something more.

Personally id take Aint It Fun, and Sympathy for the Devil off and replace them with Estranged and Rocket Queen. Leave Since I Dont Have You on there, i quite like it. :)

You guys realize that there's only 44 seconds of disc space left on the GH cd right?  It'd be impossible to just put on Estranged and only take off one song.  I agree that it's not the best song selection...but you guys are looking at it from a selfish viewpoint...

It's more of an anthology than a greatest hits, they needed to include at least one song from TSI? to promote it to the casual fans.  Also a song like SFTD needed to be on because there are probably tons of fans out there who don't have that song..and this gives them a small incentive to buy the GH.  Songs like Civil War, Live and Let Die and KOHD still get raidoplay, so the casual fan will see those songs on the cd and buy it for them.

This isn't meant for the hardcore fans, it's meant to make money from the casual fans.  If you added songs like Coma, Rocket Queen, and Mr. Brownstone and whatnot then you'd have a 2 disc album (since Gn'R has some long songs) and Geffen wouldn't make nearly as much money on a 2 disc album as they will with this.

You guys need to look at this from a different view.

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But to answer the question, I don't like live and let die, yesterdays being on the album; I'd replace them with Mr. Brownstone and Used to Love Her.

Both songs would still fit, both songs are supperior, and both get more airplay.

The album is a Guns 'N Roses: The Singles album in reality, so the album is pretty good.  For everyone here, the album sucks, but as someone said, if you look at the average listener, they get to hear all the songs that they know and love from listening to the TV and watching the Radio.  The only song that is missing from the album is estranged, which somehow didn't make it on the CD even though it is a single.

ROTFLMFAO!  :hihi:  :hihi:

That was pretty damn funny. Sorry, I didn't get much sleep last night.

Personally I would have replaced SIDHY and LALD with Estranged, i.e. replace two inferior songs with one suuperior song. Fairly good trade IMO...

Yesterdays, Since i dont have you, Live and Let Die and aint it fun

since i don' have you and replace it with rocket queen

Agreed. Also LALD....but definitely not Ain't it fun nor SFTD or SIDHY

My first post. :) I don?t think that any of the tracks on the Greatest Hits are bad but on the other hand some of the bands greatest songs are missing on this cd.

Without looking at the disc time available I would say that "It?s So Easy", "Nightrain", "Mr. Brownstone", "My Michelle" and "Rocket Queen" from Appetite For Destruction - "Move To The City", "Patience" and "Used To Love Her" from GNR-Lies - "Don?t Damn Me", "Pretty Tied Up" and of course "Estranged" from Use Your Illusion I/II -

- should be represented on a greatest hits album.

If one had to choose some skips from the grey cd, I?ll say that "Yesterdays", "Live And Let Die" and "Since I don?t Have You" could be leaved out. "Ain?t It Fun" is IMO fucking great and as the almost obligatory none album track "Sympathy For The Devil" suits fine. One must remember that Guns had The Rolling Stones as their idols when they began writing/playing music.  8)

Sorry, "Patience" is already there.

You are quite right. It is a 'Greatest Hits' album not a 'Best Of...'
Still why Geffen decided not to included 'Estranged'  and include 'Ain't It Fun' is beyond belief IMO. As a previous poster said TSI needs to be represented, but surely SIDHY does that!

I would take all the cover songs off plus Yesterdays and add Estranged, Coma, Brownstone, and It's So Easy. However, don't worry about this hunk of shit. There will be another Gnr compilation in the future. All big bands have multiple "best of" albums. :beer:

All the covers with the exception for SFTD as it hasn't been released on a album before.

Replace the covers with Nightrain, Estranged or Coma and one more song if it fits.

I would take off Ain't It Fun,  Since I Don't Have You and  Live And Let Die.

I would put in Estranged, Mr. Brownstone and Shotgun Blues or Don't Damn Me.  

Since it's a greatest hits album, the two covers that were hits should stay (LALD and KOHD).  Those are actually the only two UYI songs that get airplay in Atlanta (yep, no November Rain, no YCBM, no Civil War, no Don't Cry).

I'd add either Brownstone or It's So Easy, maybe both in place of Ain't it Fun and Since I Don't Have You (it doesn't matter that TSI would have no songs.... none were even remotely close to "hits").

Estranged does not belong.  It might have been a single but it wasn't a hit.  I've never heard it once on the radio, even back in UYI era.

I dont get why everybody is saying the covers should be on the GH. Anyway each of us their opinions  :) Here's mine:

Playing (mostly cool) cover songs was something GNR was always into and LALD and KOHD were songs GNR made their own, successfully too.

They were a part of what old GNR was all about and therefore should be represented on the GH.

In answer to the post question.. Aint It Fun was not a GREAT HIT. I guess SIDHY is a representation from TSI, but id still rather not have it on. Sympathy For The Devil I guess cos its not on a GNR album but again it wasnt a great hit.

Yesterdays yes, I dont know about overseas, but here in Aust its played on the radio a fair bit and was a single well placed when GNR toured here in Jan 93, so its a recognised song given good airplay here on the rock station.

the track list does appear to get a bit lost near the end. and there is a huge gap between each song it seems. that kills any flow. they keep breaking up fast paced songs with slow ones. no real thought appears to have been put in to the order/flow towards the end.

i'd def remove yesterdays i think, if it was in favour of nightrain or mr b!

i'd leave 'sympathy for the devil' cuz that hasnt been on any gnr albums and would be good for ppl who havent got it yet (cuz most dont go and spend ?15 on a soundtrack for one song like i do! lol)

prob keep one spag track, but not sure which. prob aint it fun, cuz the pace of the album towards the end is quite slow and itd be best to have a faster paced song with some of the gnr attitude.

anyway, thats the crucial changesid make, yesterdays, SIDHY out. and nightrain, mr b (or easy) in.

everyone knows i hate aint it fun or dont like it, hate is to strong

however casual fans may think sftd and aint it fun are new tracks which may make them buy it

i let a boy listen to one of my gnr mix cds the other day and it was the first time he ever heard pretty tied up

so who knows maybe that will help the sales

Well the point  most of you are missing is that it's a singles collection not a career retrospective.  And unlike someone such as David Bowie who has done so much that a Best of can represent the successes in individual countries.

GN'R haven't got that luxury. So it's not a case of what should have been left off. The question should be what should have been added to represent all the singles they released all over the world.  So it should have had It's so easy, Nightrain and Estranged as they were released on single format in Europe.  

I have never seen a whole discography that included international releases in places such as Japan, Australia ect so there may have been other single releases that i'm not aware of that also should have been included.  

By the way Aint it fun reached top 10 in the uk and was played everywhere - i know i was there.  So to say it wasn't a success is rubbish.   Sympathy also did well here top 10/11 and don't forget there was no video, no promotion.   So you know think about the countries other than your own -  it's a decent collection of a fantastic band - it  that could have been alot better. But that's the result of a band not holding it all together and it is being bought so you can't fault it's purpose - money.

Considering that "Since I Don't Have You" and "Ain't It Fun" were never regular's on a GN'R setlist (I am unaware of them even having played either live), I find it particularly absurd for them to have been placed on the Greatest Hits album.

I can sort of understand "Sympathy for the Devil", since that is the relatively new track that a lot of people probably haven't heard. That track can be pushed so it's not like customers are getting the same songs they've already had/heard.

If this was released with GN'R's permission, I think you'd probably have "Since I Don't Have You" and "Ain't It Fun" cut along with one of the three remaining covers. These three cuts would be replaced with "It's So Easy," "Nightrain," and "Estranged." Since "Estranged" was part of the Illusions trilogy and on that MTV countdown for months, it's ridiculous to leave that track off. Also, despite the success of the single, "Estranged" received relatively little radioplay due to its length so you again have that 'unknown' factor tempting potential buyers to pick up the CD.