Next time you get an email from Guns N' Roses:

[WhatIsItMan]

You might wanna keep it a little more quiet...? See you on the 12th!? ?

[fif]

You might wanna keep it more quiet...? See you on the 12th!? ?

Now THAT's how you do a presale for the fans!  Thank you management!  See everyone on the 17th!!!

[Kujo]

Great fucking job, whoever thought of this plan

Now I just need to score a ticket for monday and I'm set

[Chief]

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU presale people!!!!!!!

[Disco Volante]

Not bad at all! Going to 3 out of 4 shows.  Hopefully, when GNR tour the States again there will be another presale like this one.  See you honky's on the floor!

[The Dog]

are you still able to buy tix...this was a TOP SECRET show it seems, should i buy MORE!!!

[fif]

are you still able to buy tix...this was a TOP SECRET show it seems, should i buy MORE!!!

Yup.  I'm contemplating tickets for the 12th on the floor right now.......

[comaknight]

I bought extras in case of gunners in need.  If there ends up being no requests for them, I'll sell them elsewhere.  Don't worry, no ebay inflated BS.  As tempted as I am - I have a wedding to save/pay for - I am going to continue to appease the presale gods who have smiled upon me. 

[JennaSide]

Ladies and gents, we just witnessed how a pre-sale SHOULD work!   
 
I've never seen anything like that, it's awesome

[jazjme]

that was pretty damn impressive!

[Mr.Intensity]

 

The brokers got shafted on this one.

[badapple81]

The fans have been looked after very well here! 

[jbenzz]

My only worry now is that I won't be able to get rid of my extra tickets... I've got like $1000 dollars in tix 

[fif]

My only question is will there be a pre-party for the 12th??

[Mr.Intensity]

My only question is will there be a pre-party for the 12th??

I am working on it.

[CTgirl]

Thank you to everyone involved in this pre sale!!!Your the best.I'll be there on the floor on the 12th!!!!

[comaknight]

My only worry now is that I won't be able to get rid of my extra tickets... I've got like $1000 dollars in tix?

I feel the same, BUT remember these haven't even been publicly announced, much less put on sale for the general public.  They'll sell out and the extras we have purchased will be in high demand. 

Just remember - fellow gunners first 

[gnrgoblue]

The brokers got shafted on this one.

What happened that you're all so happy about? I was in on the first presale and got my tickets for Monday and know the details of what happened there (I don't want to be too specific in case the presale for the Friday and Sunday shows is still going on), but, judging from all your reactions, something really interesting happened this morning. Tell me!

Congrats to all (me included) that got tickets, and a warm thanks to everyone involved with making it happen.

[comaknight]

The brokers got shafted on this one.

What happened that you're all so happy about? I was in on the first presale and got my tickets for Monday and know the details of what happened there (I don't want to be too specific in case the presale for the Friday and Sunday shows is still going on), but, judging from all your reactions, something really interesting happened this morning. Tell me!

Congrats to all (me included) that got tickets, and a warm thanks to everyone involved with making it happen.

You'll find out later on, once it's "safe".

[Mr.Intensity]

Basically,

Management didn't announce the fact that Guns N Roses shows for the 12th and the 14th existed. They knew if they did brokers would be going nuts trying to find out the pre-sale password. I even found it wierd that craigslist.com, a spot where brokers look for passwords/info was down until around 2am last night.

Management also made it state "this event is no longer in the system" up to 5 minutes before the sale, so if a broker did look, he'd be like.. "ohh, it isn't going on."

Perfectly exectuted plan.

[xPhoeniX]

Anyone know how long it takes TicketMaster to ship out tickets?

[leesixxrose]

Basically,

Management didn't announce the fact that Guns N Roses shows for the 12th and the 14th existed. They knew if they did brokers would be going nuts trying to find out the pre-sale password. I even found it wierd that craigslist.com, a spot where brokers look for passwords/info was down until around 2am last night.

Management also made it state "this event is no longer in the system" up to 5 minutes before the sale, so if a broker did look, he'd be like.. "ohh, it isn't going on."

Perfectly exectuted plan.

Ping!

[comaknight]

Basically,

Management didn't announce the fact that Guns N Roses shows for the 12th and the 14th existed. They knew if they did brokers would be going nuts trying to find out the pre-sale password. I even found it wierd that craigslist.com, a spot where brokers look for passwords/info was down until around 2am last night.

Management also made it state "this event is no longer in the system" up to 5 minutes before the sale, so if a broker did look, he'd be like.. "ohh, it isn't going on."

Perfectly exectuted plan.

Mysteron, can we put together a big thank you card for Merck, Sanctuary & Axl? ?Maybe have a gunner try and hand it to him during the show? ?This was such a HUGE boon to all us fans that I really think a tangible show of gratitude is in order?

[Back Off Bitch]

My only question is will there be a pre-party for the 12th??

I am working on it.

Will it be in a bar or something? I want it but I'm underage for the bar...

[Mr.Intensity]

Guys, I got a gunner that needs two main floor tickets for the 12th... pm me if u have extra.

[fif]

My only question is will there be a pre-party for the 12th??

I am working on it.

Will it be in a bar or something? I want it but I'm underage for the bar...

You can be in a bar and be underage. ?The law says that you cannot consume alcohol under 21, so as long as you are not drinking you'll be ok. ?At least I'm pretty sure that's how it works. ?I'm 20 and do it quite a bit. ?Don't worry about it.

[Disco Volante]

My only question is will there be a pre-party for the 12th??

I am working on it.

Will it be in a bar or something? I want it but I'm underage for the bar...

You can be in a bar and be underage. ?The law says that you cannot consume alcohol under 21, so as long as you are not drinking you'll be ok. ?At least I'm pretty sure that's how it works. ?I'm 20 and do it quite a bit. ?Don't worry about it.

It depends on the bar.  In some bars it's 21 to drink ,18 to party.  Other bars (most midtown bars) won't let you in unless you are 21.

[leesixxrose]

what tiime do the bars close? coz maybe axl will be late and i dotn wanna leave the bar before he goes on..

[gnrgoblue]

Basically,

Management didn't announce the fact that Guns N Roses shows for the 12th and the 14th existed. They knew if they did brokers would be going nuts trying to find out the pre-sale password. I even found it wierd that craigslist.com, a spot where brokers look for passwords/info was down until around 2am last night.

Management also made it state "this event is no longer in the system" up to 5 minutes before the sale, so if a broker did look, he'd be like.. "ohh, it isn't going on."

Perfectly exectuted plan.

Strong work on their part in that case. I kind of wish I'd known about this so I could be seeing them the first night (I'm on Sunday), but I'm still really happy with how everything has worked out.

Another question because wasn't able to track the blizzard of threads and posts from the last few days: Nobody around here knew about the second set of shows (the prequel shows I suppose we can call them) until AFTER the first shows sold out, right? Maybe a privileged few, but it wasn't common knowledge, right?

[bensonr2]

The brokers didnt get screwed just by not getting tickets for the opening night. I have been lurking on a broker board because I picked a very bad this week not to be lurking the boards here. Anyway apparently there is a great surplus of tickets for the 15th and 17th shows.  Prices started very high this week but they will probably go way down. So keep in mind anyone without tickets if you cant find them here prices on ebay may not be that ridiculous since there will be a surplus. Now I have to debate myself if I want to use the tickets I bought 2nd level for the 15th in addition to my floor seats for opening night. I probably could live with one show and would rather get my money back, but I still cant shake the feelings I should hedge my bets incase Axel doesnt show (I was at the Philly show after all and also for the cancelled Wilkes Barre show).

[darknemus]

The brokers didnt get screwed just by not getting tickets for the opening night. I have been lurking on a broker board because I picked a very bad this week not to be lurking the boards here. Anyway apparently there is a great surplus of tickets for the 15th and 17th shows.  Prices started very high this week but they will probably go way down. So keep in mind anyone without tickets if you cant find them here prices on ebay may not be that ridiculous since there will be a surplus. Now I have to debate myself if I want to use the tickets I bought 2nd level for the 15th in addition to my floor seats for opening night. I probably could live with one show and would rather get my money back, but I still cant shake the feelings I should hedge my bets incase Axel doesnt show (I was at the Philly show after all and also for the cancelled Wilkes Barre show).

Just curious what broker board you've been lurking on?  I'd like to get a bit more insight into their whole method of operation.

-darknemus

[GNRslave]

i would also like to applaud GNR management and ticketmaster for making sure that the REAL fans were able to get tickets to the shows!! 

[RebelRose89]

I could be going to 12th and 15th shows... but my mom is furious i'm missing 2 days of school.  like i havn't missed that much already.
anyway if anyone wants to swap tickets for the 14th with my floor tickets for the 15th it would be greatly appreciated. Pm me if your interested.

[rhiad]

I think we learned not judge a GN'R email. Wether it may happen or not. It's all about the: try it and see for yourself vibe. That presale (12&14th) worked perfectly! Thanks to all parties involved.

[bensonr2]

I was lurking on a board of a site that requires a membership fee. Its a site for brokers that reveals presale passwords and provides tracking tools for your tickets. Presalenow.com . Not sure how big the site is but it was 100 percent legit. Even to see the board I had to pay 5 bucks for a 3 day membership.

[miffed]

I have a brief comment about all of this:

While in theory this presale stuff was a good idea in that it kept out the scalpers, it also was negative for a huge chunk of the GNR fanbase, mainly the people like me. ?I've been a GNR fan for a while, since about 6th grade... I'm 25 now. ?I followed the band religiously probably until the time I went to college. ?I still listened to GNR often, but I kind of stopped checking message boards and mags hoping for news. ?Clearly the band was inactive. ?So obviously, I wasn't part of Here Today Gone to Hell when the presale was on, even though I'm a pretty big GNR fan. ?So I got shut out. ?Now, there's no sour grapes here, I did get tickets by waiting in line for an hour at J&R in lower manhattan, and so did the 5 other dudes waiting there with me (one of which was clearly a scalper, the rest who to the best of my knowledge were fans), so I'm only making a comment. ?I just wish they had limited presale to a certain number of tickets like they do for pretty much all shows, so the rest of the fans could get a crack at it. ?Especially when the more casual fans happen to be female, and I'm sure 95 percent of you presalers are male ?Just a comment.

[pilferk]

what tiime do the bars close? coz maybe axl will be late and i dotn wanna leave the bar before he goes on..

Why not?

The Hammerstein serves drinks.

[pilferk]

Strong work on their part in that case. I kind of wish I'd known about this so I could be seeing them the first night (I'm on Sunday), but I'm still really happy with how everything has worked out.

Another question because wasn't able to track the blizzard of threads and posts from the last few days: Nobody around here knew about the second set of shows (the prequel shows I suppose we can call them) until AFTER the first shows sold out, right? Maybe a privileged few, but it wasn't common knowledge, right?

There were some rumblings (posts on the boards) that there were 2 roll over dates being held for them, the 12th and 14th.  But roll overs don't happen unless ticket sales warrent them. 

I think yesterday's presale pretty much sealed the deal.

[ppbebe]

So, the 12th and 14th shows are just for us and all the tix went in the hands of forum members? Wow!

Amazing job! This way they protected the fans from the leeches. Way to go!

Who said GNR don't care about the fans? Now Actions speak louder than words. 

And who the deuce said the Internet is a big garbage can

[Mr.Intensity]

So, the 12th and 14th shows are just for us and all the tix went in the hands of forum members? Wow!

Amazing job! This way they protected the fans from the leeches. Way to go!

Who said GNR don?t care about the fans? Now Actions speak louder than words.?

And who the deuce said the Internet is a big garbage can

lol.. fuck i'm dead...  at "deuce"

[slane92]

I think great credit is due to Jarmo and all moderators of this site. Clearly they have earned the respect of GNR and management.

Hope everyone has a great time at the NY shows.....

[speed_stone]

i really want to thank the guns and their management for making this possible, a top-secret pre-sale for starving fans is the ultimate gift to receive! we have stuck with axl through all the fucking shit and this is an awesome way of giving back to the fans! i don't live in the US but thanx to everyone involved with making this happen!

[XxWickeds10xX]

yup yup...major props to Jarmo and the others on the board!! This is a well deserved treat!! I wonder how many HTGTH.com members will be in attendance? Gotta be more than 50% of the audience! Axl should give the board a "shout out" or something at the shows! Way to go guys!

[speed_stone]

yup yup...major props to Jarmo and the others on the board!! This is a well deserved treat!! I wonder how many HTGTH.com members will be in attendance? Gotta be more than 50% of the audience! Axl should give the board a "shout out" or something at the shows! Way to go guys!

i really hope he does, HTGTH members should wear HTGTH t-shirts in case he forgets who a large part the audience consists of!

[XxWickeds10xX]

i really hope he does, HTGTH members should wear HTGTH t-shirts in case he forgets who a large part the audience consists of!

That would be cool....but then again can you imagine like 1000+ people wearing the same shirt!! LOL

[Dirty Little Thing]

i really hope he does, HTGTH members should wear HTGTH t-shirts in case he forgets who a large part the audience consists of!

That would be cool....but then again can you imagine like 1000+ people wearing the same shirt!! LOL

Well if it's not 1000+ wearing an htgth shirt, it will probably be a 1000+ wearing the circle logo shirts. 

[speed_stone]

i really hope he does, HTGTH members should wear HTGTH t-shirts in case he forgets who a large part the audience consists of!

That would be cool....but then again can you imagine like 1000+ people wearing the same shirt!! LOL

at least it would get axl's attention and he might say something, how cool would that be!

[bazgnr]

Just to add my voice to the chorus, I cannot thank everyone enough who was involved in the presale.? I got my floor tickets for the 12th, and couldn't be happier.? After being shut out yesterday, I was more than a little bitter at missing out on what-I'm-sure-will-be a killer run of shows, and it's just amazing that Jarmo, Mysteron, management, etc. co-ordinated this second group of shows and pulled the whole thing off so well.

And thank you to everyone who was talking to me about tickets to the first two shows prior to the second pre-sale today.? It's great to know that people on this board - arguments and occasional insults aside - step up and help one another out like this when it really counts.? *That's* what being a fan is about, and it's greatly appreciated.

See you on the 12th!

[speed_stone]

Just to add my voice to the chorus, I cannot thank everyone enough who was involved in the presale.? I got my floor tickets for the 12th, and couldn't be happier.? After being shut out yesterday, I was more than a little bitter at missing out on what-I'm-sure-will-be a killer run of shows, and it's just amazing that Jarmo, management, etc. co-ordinated this second group of shows and pulled the whole thing off so well.

And thank you to everyone who was talking to me about tickets to the first two shows prior to the second pre-sale today.? It's great to know that people on this board - arguments and occasional insults aside - step up and help one another out like this when it really counts.? *That's* what being a fan is about, and it's greatly appreciated.

See you on the 12th!

true words spoken right there!

[mick]

yup yup...major props to Jarmo and the others on the board!! This is a well deserved treat!! I wonder how many HTGTH.com members will be in attendance? Gotta be more than 50% of the audience! Axl should give the board a "shout out" or something at the shows! Way to go guys!

Everyone should buy a HTGTH T-Shirt so we can pick each other out at the shows!

 

[DoubleTalkingJive]

My only question is will there be a pre-party for the 12th??

I am working on it.

Cool I am totally going to that!!!  If it happens

[Mr.Intensity]

My only question is will there be a pre-party for the 12th??

I am working on it.

Cool I am totally going to that!!!? If it happens

PRE PARTY IS ON FOR ALL DAYS AT MUSTANG HARRYS!!!!!!!!!!

[DoubleTalkingJive]

My only question is will there be a pre-party for the 12th??

I am working on it.

Cool I am totally going to that!!!  If it happens

PRE PARTY IS ON FOR ALL DAYS AT MUSTANG HARRYS!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent!! I then I will see everyone on the 12th and 15th    Mr. I  you rock