Wouldn't it be nice, now, that we move on?

[wells]

First of all let me appologies to mods and jarmo and feel free to give me some bad karma if I deserve. I don't post much. I read.

Now... wouldn't it be nice if we could move on now? Now that THE MAN has spoken, we know that there will be no reunion, new album will be out this year, Bucket is not in the band... And this (this) forum (section) still looks like a rumour-leaks-reunion-guitarist hell. I am aware that there are people that miss the old band. I am aware that there are people that miss Bucket. I am aware that only 20% of us will be happy and satisfied when CD comes out. That is life. And life sucks.

Still it would be nice if this (and I mean this section) is less talk, less rumours, less nonsense... Why can't we enjoy the moment? THE MAN has spoken. He didn't speak that much in 15 years. Things look good. Things feel good.

THERE WAS A TIME, but that time has passed... Now there are some other times. Did you hear Axl saying the people that are in the band enjoy it actually? That they are glad they are in the band. So if it is worth the wait for them, why can't we just sit, relax and enjoy...

Just looking at latest topics in here I get a headache... Man behind leaks, New guitarist, Izzy is back...?

I'll be there at 31st in Budapest. Hope most of you will have a chance to see G&R again. Sooner or later. As I said things feel good this time. I can feel some emotions again... and you? Enjoy the moment, relax, live your life...

or move on!

edit: removed "the word"

[Voodoochild]

Yeah. You want censorship, but the mods are the nazis here!! Good one!

[Ines_rocks!]

I know what you mean... but I guess the excitment of being a GN?R is all that, speculate, make up things sometimes lol, u know... but yeah, I think we gotta end with the rumours about the reunion and enjoy this new band. I think it will all end next week, don?t worry!!

[russtcb]

Yeah. You want censorship, but the mods are the nazis here!! Good one!

Haha....I didn't even think of that.

The only thing I kinda agree with is this: prior to Friday night EVERYONE and the brother were bitching about how Axl owes us all these explinations. So he goes on radio on whim and gives us all the answers we're looking for (save the new guitarists name) and everyone is STILL pissed? WTF?

[wells]

I know what you mean... but I guess the excitment of being a GN?R is all that, speculate, make up things sometimes lol, u know... but yeah, I think we gotta end with the rumours about the reunion and enjoy this new band. I think it will all end next week, don?t worry!!

Well I am sure after tour starts there will be at least 10 topic per night how Slash could play this better or how Brain was non-existant 

[Scabbie]

I know what you mean... but I guess the excitment of being a GN?R is all that, speculate, make up things sometimes lol, u know... but yeah, I think we gotta end with the rumours about the reunion and enjoy this new band. I think it will all end next week, don?t worry!!

Well I am sure after tour starts there will be at least 10 topic per night how Slash could play this better or how Brain was non-existant?

In that case, make it your mission to start some great threads and I'm sure people will join in. 

[Christos AG]

First of all let me appologies to nazi mods and jarmo and feel free to give me some bad karma if I deserve. I don't post much. I read.

Now... wouldn't it be nice if we could move on now? Now that THE MAN has spoken, we know that there will be no reunion, new album will be out this year, Bucket is not in the band... And this (this) forum (section) still looks like a rumour-leaks-reunion-guitarist hell. I am aware that there are people that miss the old band. I am aware that there are people that miss Bucket. I am aware that only 20% of us will be happy and satisfied when CD comes out. That is life. And life sucks.

Still it would be nice if this (and I mean this section) is less talk, less rumours, less nonsense... Why can't we enjoy the moment? THE MAN has spoken. He didn't speak that much in 15 years. Things look good. Things feel good.

THERE WAS A TIME, but that time has passed... Now there are some other times. Did you hear Axl saying the people that are in the band enjoy it actually? That they are glad they are in the band. So if it is worth the wait for them, why can't we just sit, relax and enjoy...

Just looking at latest topics in here I get a headache... Man behind leaks, New guitarist, Izzy is back... 

I'll be there at 31st in Budapest. Hope most of you will have a chance to see G&R again. Sooner or later. As I said things feel good this time. I can feel some emotions again... and you? Enjoy the moment, relax, live your life...

or move on!

You probably don't understand that you could also be banned from reading the board. Thanks for the nazi comment.

You got my vote...

[wells]

You probably don't understand that you could also be banned from reading the board. Thanks for the nazi comment.

You got my vote...

I didn't mean anything bad with that comment. Actually my post is begging for more of that things over here? ... anyhow I just go back to my little hole...
Enjoy!

edit: removed "the word"

[Amish]

I really don't jump in and discuss all this speculation (I rarely post here) but I would like to say that seeing is believing with Guns N Roses. 

As far as I'm concerned, even if it comes straight out of Axl's mouth, I won't believe it until I see it.  If he had said on the Trunk show, "Yes, the entire original lineup is back together" I still would not believe it until May 12th.  It's always been the case with Guns N Roses that no matter who says what, anything can happen.

[Mandy.]

Wow, well said!!! 

But just give it time, it was only like 2 days ago.

[speed-stone]

ok, so in short, fans are expected to sit with their hands in their lap and twiddle thumbs and wait for the 12th to come without discussing the very surprising and pleasant news axl has given us? ok.

[Ellroy]

Nothing wrong with discussing, but discussing retarded things like "a reunion this year is still likely!" and "album in the fall? I prefer rumors of a summer release than Axl's words. Rumors are more reliable anyway" and the like is just...well, retarded. I think those that still complain after this interview are just so used to nothing ever happening for years and years that they don't know how to react to good news. They'll keep bitchin', etc. for long after the album is out because it's the only thing they know how to do. They can't help it really, they're just products of their environment. ?

[BluesGNR]

I agree 95%.  We should get away from rumoring topics that we know to be false, but shouldn't stop some of the threads altogether.  The nonsense is what makes the board at times.  You need excess fat on a board in order to "keep it real."  Otherwise, we've seen the product of the lackof at other boards, which is why most of us are here and not there.

[0001001]

sorry, but being german I don't find all these nazi comments funny at all. please stop it.

[gnrfanxxx]

I get what you are saying and yes we do have to enjoy the new band and stop with rumors but remember this! we can't forget the old memebers too

[Christos AG]

sorry, but being german I don't find all these nazi comments funny at all. please stop it.

Finally someone who is entitled to talk about the matter talks...

Honestly, it was funny until some point, but we need to stop it sometime...

[wells]

sorry, but being german I don't find all these nazi comments funny at all. please stop it.

ok sorry - edited my post... didn't mean it in a bad way... it was irony (as so many topics mentioned it - I don't know if there were more topics on Slash returning or about that)...

[Dadud3]

I agree with you Velimir 101%. I Also am getting tired of seeing these topics. Slash is gone, Hes not comming back, GTFO if you think otherwise.

EDIT: I think there should be another subsection for just rumors so they dont pollute this area.

[Communist China]

If we did what you suggested we wouldn't have forums. There's nothing to do but speculate! We hear there will be a new guitarist. What should we do? We should exchange ideas about who it could be, what we want, and how they will fit into the band. If we didn't do that, there wouldn't be a forum! Rumors...we discuss rumors to sort things out, hopefully before this "soon" of eternity so we can have our minds at peace. If we didn't do that, we wouldn't have a forum! Do you want us to sit in here and say, "This is great. Yay!" and not try to intrepret Axl's comments or look into the actions of this machine called gnr? Sure, there's bs topics. But the bs topics are the one's saying "Scott's gay" or "How should Axl where his hair?" not the topics that say "Who should be the guitarist?" and "Release date rumors" topics. those are relevant.

The forum exists to give us a place to exchange ideas and speculations with one another. If you don't want that, then what do you want?

[WARose]

we have this karma thing here now as well???

[ironfin]

I dont post too much either cause I have nothing really to add or cause my thoughts have already been posted by someone else!

I am looking forward to coming here after the Dublin gig and when the album is realised cause then my posts will flow

I dont read all the posts, only the ones that arent "Slash vs Bucket" "Bring Back Adler" etc

I do like the speculation and the ideas that some come up with. But for me its just cool to see there are still loads of GNR fans!

[Scabbie]

we have this karma thing here now as well???

Yeah how the fuck does that work? I see Nesquick has -1!

[highend88]

I agree with you 110%
Excellent post!!

[axlrosegnr]

I agree totally, however, you could just do what I do...I've been coming here for years, and look at my very low post count, 99% of the threads here are useless and meaningless to me, so I don't post, I just ignore them. Sure, at times I do think that Gn'R has the most retarded group of internet fans in the world, but alas, I just ignore them, Love Gn'R in my own way, cause I don't care about other peoples opinions on the band. I know what I like, and nothing will change that.

[WARose]

we have this karma thing here now as well???

Yeah how the fuck does that work? I see Nesquick has -1!

there`s a thread about it in the feedback section. it`s used to show which people are about to get banned. you can only get negative points and at some point you`ll get banned.... we`ll read it

I dont read all the posts, only the ones that arent "Slash vs Bucket" "Bring Back Adler" etc

was there ever a post on this board saying: "bring back adler!"?? 

[wells]

sometimes I feel like beating a dead horse ?

OK. Excuse my French... English is not my mother language so maybe sometimes it is hard to say things loud and clear.

First of all I was refering to this particular section... I always felt this is G&R General Section... I have been member of different forums (not necesserly G&R related) for few years now and even run some of them. So no need to put the words in my mouth about forums. I know what they are for. That's why they are called Discussion Forums, right? ?

I was reffering to something completely different. Count, 1, 2, 3... 3 posts till now talking about Karma thing in this Topic. And there is separate Karma Topic in a Section where it should be.

The other thing that bothers me even more then anything is: the new guys have given body & soul to this album. In the interview Axl said that they needed those shows in 2002. THE BAND needed them. And they all stayed in THE BAND. Counting out Bucket we can say this band is, what, 5-6 years old. Almost like original line-up. You think because there was no album or tour it was easier for them to stay in the band? Or harder?

I respect that. They put something into it and I am waiting to see/hear what it is. Maybe after Budapest show and release of CD I will say: 'Time To Move On!"... Maybe I will say: 'Damn I miss Slash & Duff!" or whatever... I have no idea.

What I want to do now is give them a chance. Yes I have listened to the leaks. And yes I felt something... Something I was missing for a while. I have heard Finck bringing some emotions to T.W.A.T... Madagascar? Blues? Better? I can not judge on how much who gave into songs I heard. But soon I will be able to. Till then I just want to relax and Enjoy The Moment.

Over and Out. Seems I am speaking way too much.

[Communist China]

The other thing that bothers me even more then anything is: the new guys have given body & soul to this album. In the interview Axl said that they needed those shows in 2002. THE BAND needed them. And they all stayed in THE BAND. Counting out Bucket we can say this band is, what, 5-6 years old. Almost like original line-up. You think because there was no album or tour it was easier for them to stay in the band? Or harder?

The members of NuGNR have treated being in GNR like a side project. Not one of them has done nothing but guns n roses since they joined. Not like the old band. The old band was a real band, and right now NuGNR is not. They are a group of talented musicians working together. But they aren't a band yet, that will happen after they put out an album and tour for a while.

[1987]

i hear what you are saying.. but the rumors and the speculation is what makes the board fun.. if i only wanted news.. i would check mtv.com every day.. and once ever 14 months there would be a gnr article..

[WARose]

The other thing that bothers me even more then anything is: the new guys have given body & soul to this album. In the interview Axl said that they needed those shows in 2002. THE BAND needed them. And they all stayed in THE BAND. Counting out Bucket we can say this band is, what, 5-6 years old. Almost like original line-up. You think because there was no album or tour it was easier for them to stay in the band? Or harder?

The members of NuGNR have treated being in GNR like a side project. Not one of them has done nothing but guns n roses since they joined. Not like the old band. The old band was a real band, and right now NuGNR is not. They are a group of talented musicians working together. But they aren't a band yet, that will happen after they put out an album and tour for a while.

that was actually not their decision...

[russtcb]

The other thing that bothers me even more then anything is: the new guys have given body & soul to this album. In the interview Axl said that they needed those shows in 2002. THE BAND needed them. And they all stayed in THE BAND. Counting out Bucket we can say this band is, what, 5-6 years old. Almost like original line-up. You think because there was no album or tour it was easier for them to stay in the band? Or harder?

The members of NuGNR have treated being in GNR like a side project. Not one of them has done nothing but guns n roses since they joined. Not like the old band. The old band was a real band, and right now NuGNR is not. They are a group of talented musicians working together. But they aren't a band yet, that will happen after they put out an album and tour for a while.

that was actually not their decision...

Well that is true, but if you remember Slash, Duff and Izzy were all working with whomever they wanted to between Appetite and UYI so they did the same thing the news guys are doing.

[wells]

The members of NuGNR have treated being in GNR like a side project. Not one of them has done nothing but guns n roses since they joined. Not like the old band. The old band was a real band, and right now NuGNR is not. They are a group of talented musicians working together. But they aren't a band yet, that will happen after they put out an album and tour for a while.

I don't agree with that... GNR was a band only Apetite and maybe Lies days. After that it all become a mess. I don't even think they were a band during UYI. If you listen what Axl said few days ago and if we know who was working with whom and what (ie. Slash & fu**ing Michael Jacson)...

From what I saw on on internet, G&R in 2002. was much more a band then GNR in 1992/3... Just my thoughts. As I said it may all prove wrong in just few days. Enjoy!