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Title: Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 21, 2004, 05:00:54 PM
Don't know if this is worth mentioning, but in a Rally sport program on "Viasat 1" in Sweden today I heard Madagascar being played as a intro. It was no singing and it wasn't live. One of the producers probably did a "cover" of the song. The problem is that in the end credits it said something like "All rights reserved bla bla (can't remember the name) Limited 2004".

Is this okay since the song isn't released on any record?


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 21, 2004, 05:08:37 PM
The tv channel was "Viasat Sport 1" and the program "Motorsport: Swedish Rally - The Adventure".


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: Izzy on March 21, 2004, 05:19:27 PM
In theory atleast there is nothing stopping a band doing covers of all the new GNR songs releasing them and getting all the credit for them (if not the royalties)


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on March 21, 2004, 05:19:35 PM
Do I smell another lawsuit?

Is Sanctuary gonna delay CD while they fight with Sweden?


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 21, 2004, 05:25:48 PM
In theory atleast there is nothing stopping a band doing covers of all the new GNR songs releasing them and getting all the credit for them (if not the royalties)

Okay, so they don't have to mention the writer of the song? The program will be broadcasted again 31/3 17:50. Maybe someone want record the program as don't have the channel myself.


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: Captain P?l on March 21, 2004, 05:30:04 PM
oooh.. i hope as they go to Sweden's main captital Norway to discuss it. i think Bush called Norway for the capitol of Sweden once....



Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on March 21, 2004, 05:34:16 PM
oooh.. i hope as they go to Sweden's main captital Norway to discuss it. i think Bush called Norway for the capitol of Sweden once....

 :rofl:

And make sure you force him to give you a FREE concert to make up for the one he didnt bother to show up for.

Captain Pal holds Axl/Sanctuary hostage!  Demands immediate release of album!


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: grog mug on March 21, 2004, 05:37:27 PM
So what your saying is a major televised event is playing unreleased GN'R songs as there introduction to the show? Did they say it was by GN'R and the title was Madagascar? Or did it sound completely different, sounds interesting.


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 21, 2004, 05:43:10 PM
So what your saying is a major televised event is playing unreleased GN'R songs as there introduction to the show? Did they say it was by GN'R and the title was Madagascar? Or did it sound completely different, sounds interesting.

It was absolutely Madagascar that was played, but without voice and it sounded studio rather than live. It wasn't just synth sound, it had a nice guitar sound too. It sounded like it could be a demo version from Axl's studio but I don't think a small Swedish tv producer would get hold of that  ;)

You got the impression that the whole program was completely done by the producing company.


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: grog mug on March 21, 2004, 05:48:31 PM
This is my personal favorite new GN'R song.  Is there anyway you can put it up on the net?  So someone did remake it or was it just straight Madagascar from GN'R with no vocals?  Did they mention anything about it or was it just played?  So many question I mean who knows it might actually mean something.


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: Captain P?l on March 21, 2004, 05:50:31 PM
So what your saying is a major televised event is playing unreleased GN'R songs as there introduction to the show? Did they say it was by GN'R and the title was Madagascar? Or did it sound completely different, sounds interesting.

It was absolutely Madagascar that was played, but without voice and it sounded studio rather than live. It wasn't just synth sound, it had a nice guitar sound too. It sounded like it could be a demo version from Axl's studio but I don't think a small Swedish tv producer would get hold of that  ;)

You got the impression that the whole program was completely done by the producing company.


viasat aint small....... sure that might not be a popular channel, but it still is a channel under the Viasat network, wich is pretty huge....


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 21, 2004, 05:55:57 PM
So what your saying is a major televised event is playing unreleased GN'R songs as there introduction to the show? Did they say it was by GN'R and the title was Madagascar? Or did it sound completely different, sounds interesting.

It was absolutely Madagascar that was played, but without voice and it sounded studio rather than live. It wasn't just synth sound, it had a nice guitar sound too. It sounded like it could be a demo version from Axl's studio but I don't think a small Swedish tv producer would get hold of that  ;)

You got the impression that the whole program was completely done by the producing company.


viasat aint small....... sure that might not be a popular channel, but it still is a channel under the Viasat network, wich is pretty huge....

But Viasat isn't the producer! They bought the program from a probably small producer that I can't remember the name of :(

Madagascar was used as the intro to the program.


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: grog mug on March 21, 2004, 06:00:14 PM
Someone needs to e-mail this production company and figure out what the hell is going on!


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 21, 2004, 06:04:33 PM
Someone needs to e-mail this production company and figure out what the hell is going on!

I have to e-mail Viasat and ask some questions...


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: Buritoking on March 21, 2004, 06:09:17 PM
In theory atleast there is nothing stopping a band doing covers of all the new GNR songs releasing them and getting all the credit for them (if not the royalties)

That's not really true, you can have a song copyrighted before it's ever been released. All you have to do is submit it for copyright, and then no one can use it without your permission, and spending some of their green.


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: Butch Français on March 21, 2004, 08:07:30 PM
oooh.. i hope as they go to Sweden's main captital Norway to discuss it. i think Bush called Norway for the capitol of Sweden once....

 :rofl:

And make sure you force him to give you a FREE concert to make up for the one he didnt bother to show up for.

Captain Pal holds Axl/Sanctuary hostage!  Demands immediate release of album!


what the hell, I'll join P?l! ;D


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: John Daniels on March 22, 2004, 12:34:32 AM
oooh.. i hope as they go to Sweden's main captital Norway to discuss it. i think Bush called Norway for the capitol of Sweden once....



that kind of frog coming from Bush's mouth..what a surprise.  ;D


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: kockstar99 on March 22, 2004, 12:56:06 AM
that would be nice if we could get it on the net and all hear and analyze it...


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: badapple81 on March 22, 2004, 12:58:09 AM
Someone needs to e-mail this production company and figure out what the hell is going on!

I have to e-mail Viasat and ask some questions...

Any reply yet?!?!?!!?!  :)


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 22, 2004, 01:54:10 AM
Someone needs to e-mail this production company and figure out what the hell is going on!

I have to e-mail Viasat and ask some questions...

Any reply yet?!?!?!!?!  :)

No. Business hours starts in a few minutes...


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 22, 2004, 06:31:30 PM
No answer yet, and i'm not surprised  :(


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 26, 2004, 02:29:13 AM
So, is anyone recording this program next wednesday? ;)


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: kockstar99 on March 26, 2004, 08:54:17 AM
why dont you? u live in the country it will air in.... plus you saw it already and know what to look for...


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 26, 2004, 09:48:43 AM
why dont you? u live in the country it will air in.... plus you saw it already and know what to look for...

I don't have Viasat Sport 1, I saw it on a friends tv. Maybe I can get him to record the program.

Jarmo, do you have Viasat Sport 1? ;)


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: kockstar99 on March 26, 2004, 10:49:21 AM
Oh ok...If i lived in Europe i would record it...we would all like to hear it tho..


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: justynius on March 26, 2004, 02:10:09 PM
Is everyone sure that "Madagascar" is 100% original? I do not know of any instance of Axl sampling before (like some pop/hip-hop artists do), but "Madagascar" is an unusual track. Since it already has all of the voice overs added in from films and speeches, perhaps Axl just decided to incorporate sampled background music as well? If that is the case, the television station would probably have been playing the original track. It is not like we've seen any official documentation to suggest GN'R are taking credit for the background music on "Madagascar".


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 26, 2004, 02:31:53 PM
Is everyone sure that "Madagascar" is 100% original? I do not know of any instance of Axl sampling before (like some pop/hip-hop artists do), but "Madagascar" is an unusual track. Since it already has all of the voice overs added in from films and speeches, perhaps Axl just decided to incorporate sampled background music as well? If that is the case, the television station would probably have been playing the original track. It is not like we've seen any official documentation to suggest GN'R are taking credit for the background music on "Madagascar".

Civil War has samples.

The music I heard was the "intro" of the song (without Axl's voice) including Bucketheads first solo, but ended before the samples. Probably between 1-2 minutes long.


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: kockstar99 on March 26, 2004, 02:34:53 PM
The music I heard was the "intro" of the song (without Axl's voice) including Bucketheads first solo, but ended before the samples. Probably between 1-2 minutes long.

We have to hear this...If this is a studio cut (which I doubt) Id love to hear it...If its a boot or soundboard...thats fucked up they stole it..


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: grog mug on March 26, 2004, 02:40:36 PM
If it is a studio cut maybe it means Axl is sending out random copies again like the I.R.S. incident?  It would be great to hear the show with Madagascar playing in the backround.  You really should try and record this Duga, and let us know if they tell you anything through e-mail!


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: duga on March 26, 2004, 02:42:18 PM
The music I heard was the "intro" of the song (without Axl's voice) including Bucketheads first solo, but ended before the samples. Probably between 1-2 minutes long.

We have to hear this...If this is a studio cut (which I doubt) Id love to hear it...If its a boot or soundboard...thats fucked up they stole it..

It think it's a cover. I mean, it probably wasn't Buckethead that played the guitar in the version I heard.


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: grog mug on March 26, 2004, 02:46:47 PM
How can you cover a song that's not released?  If it's true I smell more lawsuits brewing....Shit like this wouldn't happen if the damn CD was just released!


Title: Re:Madagascar "stolen"
Post by: kockstar99 on March 26, 2004, 03:26:23 PM
I know im reaching here but maybe its an early demo and that part wasnt recorded by buckethead...