Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Is EFISH gone? He's listed as a guest now. Did he just delete his account or was he banned?

he deleted his account

And... why? He had a few million posts.

Which in turn provide ample reason/evidence as to why his account may now be deleted.

I guess you should ask him.. he told me in PMs but since i don't have his permission i wont tell


no, he did it himself!

Krispy Kreme is gone too.

first skelly then these guys, where does it end.  :nervous:

well we all miss ya guys keep on rockin' :beer:

Not like he's gonna be missed anyway!  ;D

yeah, at least I'm still around  :D

 I don't have to swear at the screen anymore everytime he posts something!

Nothing to do with post count.

I do believe that last night you raised an important topic about paedophilia that I thought you wanted some insight into and discussion. Next time I won't bother.

I hope Krispy returns, it was a bummer to see him go.

And even those who didn't graduate university may agree with this.

Yes, he is another one I swore at.  :hihi:

Must be beacuse we're all drunk.

Many of the dumb people have left the board, so there is less confusion, less fighting, and more laughs.

but you'll never get rid of me! *bwahahaa*

Can we at least get rid of that avatar!

no not gfor now, the other ones i wanna have as avatars are offensive to some persons

I find it mesmerising....

Well, I gave him a minus karma, he thought I gave him 2 for no reason, asked me why, and before I logged in to read his posts he deleted himself cause he thought I was after him or something.

Funny thing is that I only gave him one and I posted the reason on that thread.

How he thought I gave him 2, is a mystery that'll never be explained...

I sense emotion.

And all this time I thought you were just one of those machines they use to beat the Russians in chess.

Or maybe they just updated your software.

I wouldn't call it emotion.

I just don't like being blamed for something I didn't do.

And I can still beat the Russins in chess...  :P

 :'(






Christos: russins? that's not even a word.

Just pretend to understand him like we always do.


Oh, Russins you say?  :yes:




/jarmo

oh mr. fishbein you will be missed.

you can always go back to gunnersground?

:rofl: :rofl:

Fuck it man do what you want : ok:

or give it to me so i can use it :hihi:

Bite my shiny metal ass...


Yes Jirmo... Russins....  :P

Someone would actually delete their account over some negative Karma? :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

I hear ya.. I can always use some more  :rofl:

You know, the one's who didn't exactly Russh in to help the Poles during the Uprising!? :P

i know the real reason why efish left....

i went with an elite website assault team under the false banner of being a member of jihad and infiltrated his site filling him with lies playing them all like fools until they cracked, when they found out it was me, it was all over for them at gnr2k...what have i done, LORD TELL ME WHAT HAVE I DONE!!! ....jesus *deep american movie star cheese accent*

Huh ?

Wonder why everyone's leaving the board ?   :o

They have been made to delete their accounts after discovering the extraterrestrial lifeforms in various mods' basements.

True story.

The Truth is out there..

its the jihad i tell you.

I declare jihad stolat!   :o

Pharmo stop scaring people away.......

i'm not liking all this anti-fish propoganda....

you are infidel

Because even this guy was less dictatorial:

(http://www.marxists.org/portugues/stalin/stalin.jpg)

 :-*




/jarmo

Smiley only post is a karma point Jirmo.

Thanks for the warning "Mr. moderator".

I just banned that guy.

If I were you, I'd try to keep the jokes to myself considering you're at -2 and your signature says a lot about your motives.

In other words, you're the kind of person who should find another place to post at soon.




/jarmo

Why? The VR section will be gone?

Not that I would miss it really, just wanted to know. :)

Save the dolphins!

They aren't fish  :P

I really like the 7-eleven tuna on wheat wrap? :yes:

I think he means that people who are not supportive of the band as they are now are not going to be welcome here for much longer. That's what I took what he said to mean anyway.

If you missed it the first time.....

That one flew over the head like a jet.

Hey he's a private eye... He's got a knack for that sort of thing  :hihi:

What do you suppose the  :P was for.

You know, I don't usually cause a commotion and just say my opinion and move on but this fucking post you made really bothers me. if you keep it up there will be noone here.. I realize you have met the band and axl may be in favor of what you're doing or you may think you're doing whats going to get you brownie points or whatever the fuck..what you do and how you run this place is your business not mine..BUT just as axl fell from grace so is this site and i notice myself being here less and less... you don't care and i don't care and thats great..we agree.
it's just not my cup of tea to read a administrator ?tell me how i should feel about my favorite band.. i don't agree with everything g&r does like lots of fans... you come to htgth and it's like the blind leading the blind.. with a admin sitting in his tower dictating every post with HOW HE FEELS it should be. listen dude, YOU ARE NOT AXL ROSE.. STOP TRYING! you sound stupid arguing with a bunch of people who are just trying to piss you off..what are you going to do? ban every fuckin person till theres no one left?? or everyone stops coming here because their opinion is not the same as yours... we are all fans of guns n' roses... not jarmo's version. you're going to tell the guy to leave because you don't like his sig?? bullshit.

Obviously since you feel that strongly about it, you seem to have something in common with that guy.

Maybe you also come here to remind us all about how GN'R needs to reunite and how the new band sucks?

If that's the case, fuck off.



We're here because we love the band IN 2007 and we support them. If you're not here for that simple reason, I suggest you start thinking about why you're here.

For some people the definition of "fan" means, put down the band and over analyze everything in order to have something to complain about. Not for me...



If I was so concerned about getting hits and visitors, I could just start doing the exact opposite of what makes sense to me.

Maybe then I could be "cool" and get people to visit.


You got one thing right, I don't give a fuck about all that. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way because people do visit this place. Even though we a have few vocal ones trying to claim the opposite.

I've banned people from here because of their lack of respect for others and our rules. What do they do? They post on other boards about what a nazi I am and how they're happy to be banned while trying to re-register here under new names.




I also don't fucking get your weird idea that I'd think I'm Axl comes from. Must be some kind of weird fantasy you have.

I'm pretty honest about who I am,, my username is my real name. I don't pretend to be anything I'm not.




/jarmo

 :no:

you just don't get it..do ya'?

how about this... i like guns n' roses... not what year of guns n' roses.... I just like them : ok: the albums sound  the same in 2007 as they did in 1987,1988,1991 and of course 1993...no disrespect to the releases we saw in 1999 and 2004 of course   :hihi:

fuck off??? probably after this post :yes:

to me the definition of a fan...is just being a fan..liking the music ..takin an  interest in their music.. how the band came about... stories behind the music... i didn't know i was suppose to believe everything axl says and not the rest of the band... or agree with everything about the band...hmmm.... i'm confusing myself..what did you say a fan was again?? maybe i had it wrong all these years..  :hihi: i tend to just form my own opinion based off of what comes out of the bands i take interest in mouths.. or their actions...there is more than 1 way to form opinions.... sometimes not believing in bullshit is a good way too.....

ok.. :-\ what else did you say here... oh yeah getting hits..... what the hell are you talking about there anyway... ???

what makes sense to you??? i'm going to say....whatever axl says........don't get me wrong...i'm a fan..huge axl fan here, i just kinda go with the flow with what he says and kinda wait on the follow thru....


ummm.... i don't know...you kinda took some of the stuff i said out of context... you don't give a fuck about something and you think i have a weird fantasy about you and axl....ok.....

i think you try and portray a axl(ish) attitude and i just don't think it works that way anymore... respect is a 2 way street...because communist china may prefer the "older" lineup doesn't make him any less of a fan. because slash and axl don't get along..doesn't mean i hate slash or don't want to read about him.. i take axls side in the gnr split and i love the lineup we have now...so fuckin what.. i'm sure he was no walk in the park to deal with as i'm sure the other guys were asses too. a spade is a spade and your views are a little skewed/ biased  to say the least... because you view things certain way thats the way you want your sites posters to view things or they are banned.... I'm sorry but to me... thats fucked up.

What made you come to that conclusion?



There's an example of somebody who doesn't get it.




Sure, and your own opinion is often based on lies and bullshit but it doesn't seem to bother you now does it?




Respect makes sense to me.





The attitude is "this is how it is, take it or leave it".

That's me. I'm not gonna change to appear "cool" from some strangers on the Internet.


I guess Axl has the same kind of attitude, but it's not like I got it to be like him. I'm not 16 you know?

It's just a question of the belief I have that honesty wins in the end and people who pretend to be something they're not are just fucking lame.





I didn't say it does did I?

I only said we don't want that kind of posters here.

There's a big difference there wouldn't you agree?

It's like if you have a party. Maybe you don't want certain people there because you know they'll make the party suck?





It's not fucked up at all.

Like I said, our party our rules.

Sorry if that's too much for you to handle, but that's the simple truth.

We're not trying to create an utopia where everybody is welcome and everybody will feel welcome.

Fuck that.


People who disrespect the current band, the board and fellow fans do get banned. Often that gets misinterpreted as them getting banned just for being fans of the old band. That's not my problem.

If you're an idiot, you get banned. Easy as that.


Here's an analogy: You have to be somewhat stupid to walk into a Yankees supporters bar wearing a Red Sox shirt. Or when in Rome, wear a Lazio shirt in the wrong part of town.

Maybe you think it's normal behavior to walk into a place with people who support a certain team and tell them their team sucks?




/jarmo

Considering the Ultras of Lazio I think it's much worse the other way around. :hihi:

Thanks for banning the Stalin supporter Jarmo!

dude you don't get it at all.. 

of course many prefer the original GnR lineup, and thats fine and understandable and no one cares about that.   We all love GnR and you'd be hard pressed to find a fan that isn't a fan of GnR in its early incarnations.  But that does not mean its cool to disrespect the band (or its fans) now jus because your favorite member left over 10 years ago.  ::) 

Bottom line is, GnR is Axl, Dizzy, Tommy, Robin, Richard, Chris, Brain, Ron, and Frank.   If someone has a problem with that, I dont understand why they would still be hanging out on a GnR board.    They shoulda left with Matt Sorum.

im more a fan of the original gnr, but ive seen the line up axl had in 2006 and they wernt exactly a shit act, however the claims that people here are to support 2007 line up is ridiculous, people signed up here long before 2007, i signed here what, 2003, 2004?  most people are here because they are a fan of guns n roses, meaning they heard the albums done back then or witnessed A line up which got them into getting those very same albums done back in the 80s and early 90s.

Everyone says they need to respect current gnr, as a touring band yes, when they release an album for us all to hear, not for sebastian bach to have a little listen, for the world to hear, and if its good, then they willl get the respect some of these axl bummer people crave for them to have on a level that they created music with axl. Until then, they are respected as a credible touring live act, who did some albums with previous bands which were alright, nothing more.

Why stolat claims in other threads to me that axl wont release the album until everyone is behind the new line up is beyond me, how the hell can you know what axl possibily feels, and that axl even cares what you or i or anyone other than people he actually know have to say.

I think if everyones to get on, people need to stop ripping on past members or VR just because axl and scott had a few words of abuse to say about one another, i also think people need to stop saying "oh the new line  up sucks" the new line up doesnt suck the only person that is wrecking the gnr name is axl himself for not releasing an album.  :rant:

i cant be bothered to go back over this and make sure its all correct so, make whatever you will of my rant.

Which is kinda funny because that band hasn't existed in your life time.

So when you became a fan, the band that existed is pretty much what we have now. Not trying to offend you, just pointing out a simple fact.



So you're telling me a band has to release an album in order to have fans?

I saw the band play live, I can't be a fan based on that? I can't be a fan based on the fact that they played several new songs live at those shows and I liked them? I can't be a fan based on the fact that I'm certain they'll release kick ass music together based on the fact that I like what Axl has done in the past and I love Tommy's solo album?

Add to that the fact that I know for a fact the guys in the band are kick ass musicians who all work towards one goal.


I can't be a fan because they haven't released an album even though I have all the evidence listed above?




/jarmo

guns n roses has already released albums jarmo incase you didnt notice lol, the whole point of the argument is that everyone goes crazy about any one in the slightest way preffering the old band over the new, my point is, until that band actually have an album out people need to understand alot of people wont accept them properly.

They play mainly old guns stuff live, they didnt make it so SOME people have issues with it, when they have there own material they made and played on, i think people will accept them much more and hold them in higher respect, my point was never about not being able to be a fan, its about the credability of these guys and the constant show downs between fans of the new band and fans of the old band.

i wasnt knocking them as of such, defending them in some respects, but also pointing out theres nothing wrong with someone coming here who is more of a fan of the gnr line ups from 86 till 93.

I think its silly how its starting to go the way that you HAVE to be a fan of the current line up to be accepted as a  true gnr fan and member of these forums.

And like i said, i have seen guns n roses live line up 2006 and they rocked, but theres nothing wrong with me also wanting a reunion since id like to see the guys that made the music play it live in the now, or maybe even have the chance to go see them perform it, VR isnt the same is it really....

However if axl got chinese demoncracy out and it was good, then i think more people would let go of a reunion idea.

(lil edit)

on the age point, what would you rather me be into shit like muse or my chemical romance over all the past acts that came out before i was born?

I love the new band more now because they exist.

The old band is very special to me, but the new band excite me more nowadays for obvious reasons. They're actually active.




No, you do like some great music in addition to liking Poison.  :hihi:

Muse rocks. :D


But honestly, you must see the irony in somebody who wasn't even born when AFD was released, telling me and people who were around back in the day about how we can't be fans of the current band?

Nothing elitist about it, just pointing out the humor in it.


I welcome everybody who support the current band here.  No matter if they were around since day one in 1985 or of they became fans last week.



/jarmo

fair enough jarmo, regardless though, can you see some on my points though, some of the fans of the 2007 line up do go too far over them.

Well there's several reasons for that.

We've heard so many of you telling us how this band isn't GN'R. We've been hearing that ever since it was announced Slash had quit.

Then add to that the fact that people are still repeating that even when there's things to be excited about and you can understand why.



/jarmo

Dude, you hit the nail on the head with that one. That is what it is all about.

Furthermore, one of the best guitarist I ever heard in my life, had not published/copyrighted anything since the '70s.

Isn't that setting the bar a little low?

Perhaps, but it's better than carrying a torch for a band that no longer exists.

I carry a torch for the old band. They were everything I ever loved about rock n' roll. This new band is good too . they definatly can play this music very well!

I can tell by jarmos post that he dislikes slash and company because axl hates them too. i think he's a follower of Axl's opinions. if slash was in the band now and axl loved him, jarmo would too.
 The only thing i dislike is that jarmo thinks that fans of the old band shouldn't be here or we should hide in our little hole called "dead horse".
I'm not really picking on jarmo. this is just my opinion based on want i read as i go through posts. frankly when jarmo goes on his rampage about people liking the old band, i just skip over it. cause its gets old. there is no difference between the old and new fans. Axl plays the SAME songs now as he did in 1987-1993...... no difference just different members.

We are all the same fans of this band.

i dont care if people prefer the old band but we dont need to be reminded every other post that you want a reunion.    if you really are a fan of GnR these days then a reunion shouldnt' be a concern because you like the band the way it is.

i don't really agree with that. do i want a reunion?...sure. but if not, then we all will survive. who cares if people want a reunion?why does it matter? it could happen you know? but if not, it's no big deal if people talk about it. 

I understand that the "original" GN'R is OVER. I think matt sorum said it best, when he said "that kinda shit will never happen again". (refering to the hype, the excitment, the way they were). for me, that's when i realized it was never going to be the same.

I enjoy the new band, they're good. I prefer listening to this "NEW GN'R" over none at all. This "revolving door" of members can be a bit much sometimes. but which would i choose if i had only one wish? Well, i think you can figure that one out yourself.
I still stick to my original statement of  "we are all the same fans of this band"  :peace:

but in reality you dont get that wish to make. 

your opinion is valid, but when people repeat the same reunion shit over and over, it gets tiring and yes its a slap in the face to the guys in the band now.

But Axl doesn't hate Slash!

'

I disagree with the fact that Axl hates Slash , he probably isn't too fond of the man but he doesn't hate him. But I however do agree that people like Jarmo and Jim Bob are followers of Axl's opinions solely , if its Axl approved its good.....

You have no fuckin idea what Jarmo is like.

You can say whatever the fuck you like, but the fact is that you have no fuckin clue.

And if you think of Jarmo like that, you can go to some other board and cry about it.

you don't know me either.  I support Axl as my favorite artist and musican, but I dont agree with every single opinion he may or may not have.

Easy on the Starbucks brah....

And watch as the followers defend their god hahahaha thats what I think , thats how it feels around here. Did I say I know them? Nope. I do think of Jarmo like that but I dont cry about it.

Honestly, here's how I see it:

The band never stopped existing. As members left, new members entered to take their place - end of.

I don't differentiate between "old" and "new" - to me, GN'R is the same entity that it always has been.

You're funny..

Like, Michael Jackson in a kids playground funny.

You just answered your own question. Of course the band never stopped existing!!!!

As members left, new members entered to take their place -

Ex- Members = Old

Ones who took there place = New

Some people prefer certain line ups or members to others , some say Duff is better than Tommy but Thal is better than slash  or Slash is better than Robin but Buckethead is better than both.  I've heard many different opinions over the years but usually the ex member that is most debated ( in my cases ) is Slash.

There aint no fucking question asked! :confused: :nervous:

 :hihi: :rofl:

I don't differentiate between "old" and "new"

Ok , granted no question but i was just setting out how people view it.

This is so boring.

How did this go from why/how Efish's account was deleted to debates about the new band versus the old one? Oh wait, every topic is like that now.

I was just wondering about that myself.

Does anyone know what actually happened with Efish?

Yes.

And it makes you feel special, doesn't it?


Oh!, to be privy to the knowledge that you are.

Congratulations, you're in on an irrelevant secret, (very possibly of your own creation!), that is very possibly only such to make it seem interesting. Which it's not. He left. All the best to him.

Christ. We don't go on and on about what we know but can't tell you about Chinese Democracy.

actually you or some other mod should go to AFC and delete a thread that should be there instead of being drunk and acting smartass here : ok:

i could say what efish told me but it was rather offensive and about some person(s) so i dunno why i should be his messenger if hasn't asked me to be : ok:

Right on! Maybe you should be a moderator!

Boy, do I feel silly. After all, I am in the Appetite for Collection section all the time. How could I have missed whatever it is you are on about!

... Though... What business would I have removing (nothing gets deleted)


?*

*Now you see that there, that there is an example of being a, err, smart arse. My previous post? Not so much. (This right here?... Maybe)

Although, Mr. Angry, your orders are misdirected; my powers don't extend that far from Olympus that they reach the realm of those with an Appetite to Collect.

PS: The incredible anger that you displayed in said Appetite for Collection thread goes to show that you must be a great supporter of the supression of the leaks. Yay! So I guess that means you're not Welsh.

 :hihi:

dear oh dear, I never knew Jim was actually MCT :P

I could continue on and on, but there's no reason since we aren't not talking about efish or the thread that got removed (not deleted)  ;)

Chill hombre,  :rofl:

you be quiet about me and my welsh brethren

I'm a wet brother. Am I cool?

And I think you're a clueless individual who needs to stop making stupid remarks about people he doesn't know and never will.  : ok:





/jarmo

He can't be. I'm not afraid of Jim.

All I keep trippin on is:

HOw the fuck do I have more negative karma than Pharmo AKA SLC? :hihi: :hihi:

Mine are actually in Euros while yours are in American dollars. So, even though I have less, they are worth more a bit more.

Jarmo also knocked two points off, after my selfless donation to the "Mark Foley/Boys Town Welcome Center" at the Florida State line.

Lets not talk about negativity Karma shall we....

Jesus, what did you do? Play footsies in the bathroom stall with the wrong mod?

Well it was the not playing footsies that done it......

I think Timothy accidentally bit a mods cock off or something.

Shit happens when u party naked :hihi: :hihi:


If Pharmo's Karma is Euros, Mine must be in Pesos cause mine ain't worth shit.

I deserve maybe 1 or 2 but 4......................................

The only problem with that is that none of the mods have a cock.................. :P 

Damn it man...

You really tricked me with this one... So I checked inside my pants and surprise... I GOT ONE...

So, you can suck it.  :smoking:

(Golf clap)

This is the encore clap........

This is coming from a person who clearly lacks balls........  :P



/jarmo

I thought that said 'licks'. Would have been very humourous.

........and it also ties into the music side of things!

How many times do I have to tell you ? That isn't a cock , it is a extra large clit . It's not a cock...

T has balls. And if he asks really nice, his wife will take them out of her purse and let him use them.                       Abnormally large clit? Emma?

Your interest in Christos' genitalia is somewhat surprising.

But whatever works for you.  : ok:




/jarmo

Oooh, that burnt so hot, I felt it here.

Maybe it is just the liquor ... nah

Ooooh... such a tough guy. I'll still let you suck my cock man...

Cause if you don't, it's really gonna hurt...

Christos, you're fucked.



In the head.

Yeah, I've been told... :P

And then do you beat them up?  :o

Only from 21:00 till 23:00.

But I'd never do that to AdZ...

His hair is just... magic...   :confused:

You're really lost it haven't you? You're such a nutjob.

You know, ... us crazy fucks might take offense at that ;)

no chance, there IS a difference between crazy fucks and nutjobs, clearly ::) you of all people should know that Sman ;)

Yes, I'm one of the nuttiest!

Can't we make fun of D now?

That depends. How many retalitory sheep fucking jokes can you handle? BTW, how has this thread gone this long without an Abe Vigoda reference?

Is Pharmo Years like the Wonder Years only  gayer?

Gayer indeed.

The story takes place in an interstate mens lavatory in Kentucky....

I've picked Corey Haim to play a character I've named "D", and Corey Feldman will play "The officer who arrests the closet homosexual who is wearing a Bon Jovi tee shirt".