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Title: backing vocals
Post by: whitemusiclover on April 10, 2007, 08:26:49 PM
I know on other guns projects the rest of the band sings backing vocals as well as Axl and Tracy and raberta. But on the new guns I have yet to hear any Tracy of Raberta or other members backing just axl's voice doing both.  If the live version is suppost to sound like the album this is impossible. where are these key elimates?


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: jarmo on April 10, 2007, 08:34:37 PM
What's the question?

If you've watched the band live, most of them sing backing vocals.




/jarmo


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: whitemusiclover on April 10, 2007, 08:45:23 PM
All I am saying is the studio verson and the live versons have totally different backing vocals.  I was under the impression that a live performance should sound like the studio verson.  This isn't the case.


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: me2u838 on April 10, 2007, 08:54:56 PM
No, studio and live are definitely not 1 and the same


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: LittleFly on April 10, 2007, 08:56:52 PM
I think that the live shows are to showcase the various talents of all the members. ?

Live you get to do it once. In the studio, you can do it as many times as you want to get a certain sound or whatever. ?Also, playing live they can experiment with the songs live to bring a different sound or attitude to them every time.

So ya, the studio songs will probably have a much different sound then the live songs do :)


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: jarmo on April 10, 2007, 09:00:05 PM
All I am saying is the studio verson and the live versons have totally different backing vocals.  I was under the impression that a live performance should sound like the studio verson.  This isn't the case.

If you want that, you're asking for playback performances.....




/jarmo


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: faldor on April 10, 2007, 10:12:38 PM
We haven't heard any FINISHED studio versions yet so it's kind of hard to comment on how they differ.


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: Gargh! on April 11, 2007, 06:13:52 AM
As Faldor says the versions we've heard are not the final ones (at least, according to the GNR camp they're not) and could be Axl doing guide vocals for the others to sing come the final versions.

Or it could be the final versions, in which case the band would be singing live because Axl can't sing all the parts at once.


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: stivbator on April 11, 2007, 06:51:36 AM
i think that is what made appetite so good cause axl does all the vocals,just listen to paradise city theres like seven different vocals by axl


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: Jim Bob on April 11, 2007, 07:10:54 AM
All I am saying is the studio verson and the live versons have totally different backing vocals.  I was under the impression that a live performance should sound like the studio verson.  This isn't the case.

Why?  You could just buy the studio release.. well in most cases anyways.  :hihi:

Live performance isn't about duplicating whats on the record.  Some songs evolve over time and others just have elements that are better suited for the studio setting and likewise with live performances, theres somethings they can do that just wont sound right in the studio.  its about putting on a good performance, not replicating something exactly.


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: babydolls on April 11, 2007, 07:48:23 AM
All I am saying is the studio verson and the live versons have totally different backing vocals.  I was under the impression that a live performance should sound like the studio verson.  This isn't the case.

Why?  You could just buy the studio release.. well in most cases anyways.  :hihi:

Live performance isn't about duplicating whats on the record.  Some songs evolve over time and others just have elements that are better suited for the studio setting and likewise with live performances, theres somethings they can do that just wont sound right in the studio.  its about putting on a good performance, not replicating something exactly.

Agreed, Jim Bob.  I for one much prefer bands that are able to spice things up in a live environment and give their set a different feel live than the studio sound.  It quickly gets dull to watch a band who can only replicate (or try to) their recorded sound note for note, beat for beat, plod, plod, plod - to me it smacks of not being able to perform live to any decent level. I personally believe Oasis in this category. Gn'R however have an awesome live sound and also are highly-skilled and very experienced live performers.  Feeling the emotion/passion from a band as they perform live is key for me - GnR have had me in tears on more than one occasion during their live shows.


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: ppbebe on April 11, 2007, 01:45:18 PM
I hear Michel Jackson live sounds just like what on his records. : ok:



Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: Gargh! on April 11, 2007, 06:15:00 PM
Iron Maiden are pretty tight live, but they don't tend to do as much in the way of backing vocals.


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: isa on April 11, 2007, 09:49:47 PM
well as for Tracey n Roberta, they have their own solo carrer already, in fact Tracey is promoting in a very good way her album, which is amazing : ok:, they're awesome, I love them I'm a big fan of them. Amazing singers, I don't think they can fit in the "new" GN'R


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: Gunner80 on April 12, 2007, 04:15:43 PM
I hear Michel Jackson live sounds just like what on his records. : ok:


Isn't Memorex great!


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: chinesedemocracy05 on April 17, 2007, 09:48:34 AM
I think on the most recent better. You can hear stinson in the part after robins solo. I think theyre just saying lalalala ir nananana Im not really sure lol. I dont kknow if its stinson either, im just guessing cuz im pretty sure it aint axl.


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: CAFC Nick on April 17, 2007, 12:02:24 PM
I enjoyed Robin's backing vocals at the end of Madagascar, I think its a bit of a shame they don't still do that!? :yes:


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: shelly60 on April 17, 2007, 06:11:38 PM
I didn't know Tracey had a album. What it is called?


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: RJ1221 on April 17, 2007, 06:19:24 PM
Axl overdubs in the studio, but he gets the band to sing back-up live

take for instance the original line-up, when it came to Out Ta Get Me

in the studio version, Axl sings it all, or atleast his voice is dominant, but live, Duff would sing the "You can't tell me" "They won't touch me" parts


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: overmatik on April 17, 2007, 09:29:41 PM
Let's forget about the demos, they're totally shit. I'm sure the real stuff will be "better"!


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: loretian on April 17, 2007, 10:02:24 PM
The only band I know of that tries to perform live what they do in the studio is Pink Floyd.? Most bands perform things differently than the studio version, simply because it's impossible to match the studio version exactly.? Case in point, if Axl is singing backup as well as lead vocals on a studio track, that's simply impossible live, so other band members take over.

Many, if not most bands have a lead vocalist that also sings backup vocals on studio cuts.? It's very common.? It's not some crazy "Axl thing."? ?;)


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: maynard on April 17, 2007, 10:25:44 PM
Stinson, Finck and Pitman all do a great job on backing vocals, I even prefer their voices than Axls on Madagascar, that final part with 2 voices, you know...


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: DuffRock on April 18, 2007, 04:50:14 AM
The only band I know of that tries to perform live what they do in the studio is Pink Floyd

The Eagles? their live stuff is almost a replication of their studio stuff


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: loretian on April 18, 2007, 11:33:22 AM
The only band I know of that tries to perform live what they do in the studio is Pink Floyd

The Eagles? their live stuff is almost a replication of their studio stuff

Really?  I am not a huge Eagles fan so I had no idea, but they are not the type of band I would expect to do that sort of thing.  That's cool though.


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: madagas on April 18, 2007, 11:48:07 AM
I won't be able to listen to the whole album through if Axl is the only one on vocals-too much high pitched screeching wears on me after a while. His background stuff on the Madagascar leak is terrible compared to the live versions. Other voices lend texture and soul to the songs. :peace:


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: RJ1221 on April 18, 2007, 05:53:01 PM
Stinson, Finck and Pitman all do a great job on backing vocals, I even prefer their voices than Axls on Madagascar, that final part with 2 voices, you know...

Ron and Dizzy sing back-up as well


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: Jim Bob on April 18, 2007, 05:56:07 PM
yea pretty much everyone in the band except Frank and Brain do some bit of backup vocals.  Richard doesn't do a whole lot, but the rest do pretty regularly.   BBF and Robin have kickass voices especailly.


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on April 18, 2007, 05:58:35 PM
yea pretty much everyone in the band except Frank and Brain do some bit of backup vocals.  Richard doesn't do a whole lot, but the rest do pretty regularly.   BBF and Robin have kickass voices especailly.

Throw in Tommy in there, and you have a fantastic backup vox section.  No need for Tracy and Roberta.  ;)


Title: Re: backing vocals
Post by: Demon Wolf on April 18, 2007, 06:55:57 PM
Robin Finck should've been lead singer in 2002. Just listen to him on Nightrain in Rio.

NIIIIGHTRAIN!  ;D