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Guns N' Roses => Dead Horse => Topic started by: masterv on July 29, 2006, 10:05:58 PM



Title: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: masterv on July 29, 2006, 10:05:58 PM
Slash, Duff and Matt would never have called their new band Guns N' Roses.
If anything, those guys are decent enough to realize that FAB Five is no more.
However, them owning the name and copy right would have ensured more sane and businee like attitude towards the catalogue. For example, they wouldn't be as stupid as Axl was to pass up the opportunity of having Welcome to the Jungle in Ridley Scott movie Blackhawk Down. Can you imagine how much money has Axl lost on it?
I don;t like sell outs, but to me at least, having a song played in an Oscar nominated and probably winning movie does not constutute a sell out.
Even if Axl does legally own the right to the name, morally he has no righ to use Guns N' Roses for the new band he is fronting. I have a huge respect for him as a singer and frontman, and GNR are my favourite band.
I know that Robin Finck and Ron Thal are awesome musicans, but they would be awesome musicians for something like Axl Rose Band, Hollywood Rose, Anything Rose, whatever.
If Mick Jagger kick out Keith Richards and others from Stones, and buys the name, no one in the world expect him to tour under Stones name.
Otherwise people would see him as traitor.
When Vince Neil tours solo, as he does in this moment, he doesn't use Motley Crue name.
I know I will be blasted for this, but I can't please everyone.
GNR are my favourite band, Axl is my favourite singer, but unfortunately it doesn't exist anymore.
That is sad, but everyone has moved on, maybe Axl should do the same.
As Slash said, Axl has tainted the name. 2002 MVA, Vancouver and Philly Riots are a direct proof of that.
If Axl comes to Toronto, I would prolly go see him, but I will never accept this group as more than Axl + 7 or whatever musicians. What a shame for having 3 guitarists as opposed to 2.
Richard Fortus, Robin Finck and Ron Thal are awesome, I am positive, but Gilby and Slash, as 2, can do something that those ones do in 3. Who is better now?


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Tomorrows on July 29, 2006, 10:07:24 PM
Guess what? No one cares!


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Mandy. on July 29, 2006, 10:08:06 PM
Okay.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Gnr_man202 on July 29, 2006, 10:08:46 PM
Slash, Duff and Matt would never have called their new band Guns N' Roses.
You're right.

Because Axl owns the name ;)


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: GnR-NOW on July 29, 2006, 10:12:53 PM
can we cut the shit already, enough of this.? GUNS N' ROSES is about to finish a huge, successfull European Tour.? Then come back to the US and kick more ass.? For anyone who feels this isn't GNR, then simply don't go see them and don't buy CD when it comes out, but don't try to force your opinion on other GUNS N' ROSES fans who support the new band.  And since Axl owns the name, he derserves whatever comes from the new band whether its good or bad.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Luigi on July 29, 2006, 10:19:03 PM
Cry about the name to someone who gives a shit, to me if Axl's there singing, then it's GNR.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: masterv on July 29, 2006, 10:23:16 PM
i am just pissed at Axl about the way he handled the copyright issue.
Not to mention making everyone wait for hour and a half, so he is preciouseness can have his favourite lamb roast.
And then he is surprised why people throw stuff at him and rest of "GNR band"
How about starting shows on time??!?!?!!?   


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: TrueRock&Roll on July 29, 2006, 10:24:58 PM
That lamb roast thing was bullshit.  So get the facts straight first. 


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Mandy. on July 29, 2006, 10:25:15 PM
i am just pissed at Axl about the way he handled the copyright issue.
Not to mention making everyone wait for hour and a half, so he is preciouseness can have his favourite lamb roast.
And then he is surprised why people throw stuff at him and rest of "GNR band"
How about starting shows on time??!?!?!!?? ?


One thing has nothing to do with the other.
You're boring. Go play in traffic.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: WeHeldTogether on July 29, 2006, 10:26:42 PM
GNR have NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER started shows on time, even WITH duff, slash, and the rest of the guys.

and wow, you just developed an opinion different that everyone, good job.  ::)


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: GnR-NOW on July 29, 2006, 10:28:39 PM
I could really care less if they start on time.  At the Hammerstein show on the 15th BFMV finished at 9:15, GNR didnt come on until 11:05, almost 2 hours later, but no gave a shit, we all drank and enjoyed the atmosphere.  Now in the heat might be alittle different, but I dont think anyone goes to a GNR concert expecting things to be on time.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on July 29, 2006, 10:31:04 PM
Doesn't it strike everyone as strange, that after every event that is going to create massive "visits" to the GNR boards, ie 1st Wembley gig with invites to GNR VIP acoustic set, that we get trollers that post topics like this one? ?I suggest everyone just ignore this post so it dies, or the thread is locked. ?Pathetic.  Same post put on every board simultaneously.  Is it Weiland or VR that you street team for?  This is now the eighth or ninth big event this year that these simultaneous stupid, revisionist history posts are submitted by these doucebags.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Gnr_man202 on July 29, 2006, 10:35:19 PM
i am just pissed at Axl about the way he handled the copyright issue.
Not to mention making everyone wait for hour and a half, so he is preciouseness can have his favourite lamb roast.
And then he is surprised why people throw stuff at him and rest of "GNR band"
How about starting shows on time??!?!?!!?   


One thing has nothing to do with the other.
You're boring. Go play in traffic.
Sweet (and short), and to the point.

Very good.  8)


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: RoCoKiN on July 29, 2006, 10:38:48 PM
"Mama, the poor ol' horse is being beatin' again...what do we do?

"It's oK son, it's been done a million times before...he;s nuthin' but ol' dust now...there, there!"


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: misterbrownstone on July 29, 2006, 10:42:07 PM
cool.

not only are you wasting people's time at CD.com by posting the exact same thing, but you decided to bore people here, too!

keep up the good work : ok :.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: masterv on July 29, 2006, 10:43:51 PM
According to Mirror.co.uk, Axl Rose nearly sparked a riot at a reunion concert by allegedly refusing to go on stage until he had eaten a roast lamb dinner.

The 44-year-old GUNS N' ROSES singer reportedly kept fans waiting an hour and 15 minutes in sweltering heat on Wednesday (July 19) while caterers rushed to prepare his grub.

Thousands started jeering and throwing objects at the stage in Newcastle, England, but wildman Axl ? who flew in by helicopter ? allegedly refused to budge.

Fan Saskia Green, 25, said: "It was really hot and the crowd was booing because he was taking forever.

"A security guard said the delay was caused by Axl demanding a lamb dinner before he went on ? very rock 'n' roll."

Colin Revel, manager of the Metro Arena, confirmed to Mirror.co.uk Axl refused to play until he had been fed, adding, "Only a roast dinner would do."


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Butch Français on July 29, 2006, 10:43:58 PM
Cry about the name to someone who gives a shit, to me if Axl's there singing, then it's GNR.

well, that kinda musical insight says a lot, thanks. I will never be listening to you again. (not that I have before, hahah).


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Tomorrows on July 29, 2006, 10:45:53 PM
According to Mirror.co.uk, Axl Rose nearly ...


According to us you should shut the fuck up and stop posting, Gumby.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: RoCoKiN on July 29, 2006, 10:46:48 PM
According to Mirror.co.uk, Axl Rose nearly sparked a riot at a reunion concert by allegedly refusing to go on stage until he had eaten a roast lamb dinner.

The 44-year-old GUNS N' ROSES singer reportedly kept fans waiting an hour and 15 minutes in sweltering heat on Wednesday (July 19) while caterers rushed to prepare his grub.

Thousands started jeering and throwing objects at the stage in Newcastle, England, but wildman Axl ? who flew in by helicopter ? allegedly refused to budge.

Fan Saskia Green, 25, said: "It was really hot and the crowd was booing because he was taking forever.

"A security guard said the delay was caused by Axl demanding a lamb dinner before he went on ? very rock 'n' roll."

Colin Revel, manager of the Metro Arena, confirmed to Mirror.co.uk Axl refused to play until he had been fed, adding, "Only a roast dinner would do."

Richard Fortus has already said this is bullshit...nice try though...keep it comin' bitch!


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Steel_Angel on July 29, 2006, 10:47:19 PM
According to Mirror.co.uk, Axl Rose nearly sparked a riot at a reunion concert by allegedly refusing to go on stage until he had eaten a roast lamb dinner.

The 44-year-old GUNS N' ROSES singer reportedly kept fans waiting an hour and 15 minutes in sweltering heat on Wednesday (July 19) while caterers rushed to prepare his grub.

Thousands started jeering and throwing objects at the stage in Newcastle, England, but wildman Axl ? who flew in by helicopter ? allegedly refused to budge.

Fan Saskia Green, 25, said: "It was really hot and the crowd was booing because he was taking forever.

"A security guard said the delay was caused by Axl demanding a lamb dinner before he went on ? very rock 'n' roll."

Colin Revel, manager of the Metro Arena, confirmed to Mirror.co.uk Axl refused to play until he had been fed, adding, "Only a roast dinner would do."

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=33569.0

Richard has asked me to post this message from him concerning the Newcastle gig and the entire European tour:

To my knowledge, there was never a bottle thrown at the stage while we were on it. ?Newcastle (in my opinion), was one of (if not the), best shows of the tour. ?It was also the hottest! ?It was a steam bath! ?The fans were amazing, and seemed 100% with us the entire show. ?It was a really magical show for me, until the very end. During Night Train, someone threw a coin and it hit Axl and he stopped us and we walked off. ?We made an announcement that we weren't going to keep playing if anything else was thrown. ?Unfortunately, we came back, started the song again and the same thing happened. ?So we left. ?That's what this band has always done when people keep throwing shit. ?Maybe people were booing in the back. ?If they were, i sure as hell didn't hear it nor did I see it. ?Except for some asshole that ruined it for everyone, it was one of the greatest shows of my life. ?The Newcastle audience was amazing. ?The press reports that I've read made it sound as though we were bottled and booed off the stage, but as usual they are full of shit. ? That includes the story about Axl refusing to go on until he got a roast duck dinner. ?Complete bullshit. ?I know, i was with him. ?Blatant lies. ?Don't believe what you read kiddies! ?The fans have been amazing here in Europe. ?It's pretty overwhelming. ?I'd like to personally thank all the fans that have come to the shows. ?Especially the ones that didn't come as fans, but left as fans. ?Your emails and all the posts on the websites have really meant a lot. ?oh yeah, one more thing. ?Izzy Stradlin is one of the coolest people i've ever had the pleasure of knowing. ?It's a pleasure to play with him and to hang out with him. ?Again, thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone that has helped make this tour so much fun.
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Now go home.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Steel_Angel on July 29, 2006, 10:48:19 PM
According to Mirror.co.uk, Axl Rose nearly ...


According to us you should shut the fuck up and stop posting, Gumby.
agreed x2

edit: i fucking hate these threads. GET A FUCING LIFE!!!!@@211!!!!! Axl's more GNR than slash, duff and matt combined, id rather let axl release good music with the name gnr than slash and duff release stupid "sucker train blues" song like albums.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: JDA on July 30, 2006, 12:18:28 AM
This is such an old discussion.  He's using the name.  Get over it.  Don't post dumb stuff like this.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: -Jack- on July 30, 2006, 12:21:26 AM
Deaddddd horseeeee


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Jim Bob on July 30, 2006, 12:49:19 AM
this thread reaks of stupidity.   this is 2006, get over it already.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on July 30, 2006, 12:56:45 AM
(http://www.vinyltap.co.uk/gallery/gu/gunsndh5002545133183060.jpg)


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: RichardNixon on July 30, 2006, 01:24:04 AM
Someone lock this shite please.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: kevin1971 on July 30, 2006, 02:00:56 AM
According to Mirror.co.uk, Axl Rose nearly ...


According to the Mirror.co.uk the world is flat- I think you need to check your FACTS before quoting Bulls**t



Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Ineverlearn000022 on July 30, 2006, 02:08:46 AM
the FAB 5 only made 1 cd together.  Then they got a new drummer, and a new gutiarist, and so on and so on...

So this is a stupid thread b/c the band has been changing ever since its very existance.  I like to use the Darwin theory on this one.  Only the strong survive. 

AXL ROSE


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Locomotive98 on July 30, 2006, 02:22:31 AM
According to Mirror.co.uk, Axl Rose nearly ...


According to the Mirror.co.uk the world is flat- I think you need to check your FACTS before quoting Bulls**t


No offense, but just because Richard Fortus said it wasnt true doesnt mean that its not true. Why cant Axl address the rumours himself??

Whether he had a roast or he was rolling around in his rose strewn dressing room doing numerology doesnt depart from the fact that he is always late for gigs. If people have paid good money to see you perform then you should have the common courtesy to turn up before they all have to get the tube home.

Not everyone has a 12 metre long hummer to take them home after a gig.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: kevin1971 on July 30, 2006, 03:25:08 AM

No offence Loco, but  do you really think Axl would have a big meal JUST BEFORE going on stage!!! The amount he runs around and the energy he exerts he would be vomitting withing minutes of coming on.....
Think about it - The press always have and always will print bullshit IT SELLS PAPERS - Why should Axl lower himself to answer these allegations (His real fans know the difference)


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: Locomotive98 on July 30, 2006, 03:57:39 AM

No offence Loco, but? do you really think Axl would have a big meal JUST BEFORE going on stage!!! The amount he runs around and the energy he exerts he would be vomitting withing minutes of coming on.....
Think about it - The press always have and always will print bullshit IT SELLS PAPERS - Why should Axl lower himself to answer these allegations (His real fans know the difference)

To be fair, I dont know much about Axl's taste in food or whatever. I dont care if the roast story is true or not. My main point is that he shouldnt be hours late for gigs all the time.


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: mikegiuliana on July 30, 2006, 03:58:33 PM
can we cut the shit already, enough of this.? GUNS N' ROSES is about to finish a huge, successfull European Tour.? Then come back to the US and kick more ass.? For anyone who feels this isn't GNR, then simply don't go see them and don't buy CD when it comes out, but don't try to force your opinion on other GUNS N' ROSES fans who support the new band.? And since Axl owns the name, he derserves whatever comes from the new band whether its good or bad.

that wasn't guns n roses... :hihi: Why can't someone enjoy axl's work without calling a band with one gnr member gnr?


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: GnR-NOW on July 30, 2006, 04:56:51 PM
i hear u, but he owns the name


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: mikegiuliana on July 30, 2006, 04:58:43 PM
i hear u, but he owns the name

sure but ownership means nothing.. I could own the beatles name that doesn't mean if I throw aband together it will be viewed as the beatles..


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: GnR-NOW on July 30, 2006, 05:17:46 PM
lol thats right, but you d have the naming rights, and by law your band would be the beatles

isnt the guy from the smashing pumpkins doing the same thing, new band same singer?


Title: Re: Axl doesn't deserve to use GNR in his solo effort
Post by: mikegiuliana on July 30, 2006, 06:23:43 PM
lol thats right, but you d have the naming rights, and by law your band would be the beatles

isnt the guy from the smashing pumpkins doing the same thing, new band same singer?

billy corgan? I knew he formed zwan or something... I have no idea, I haven't cared about the pimpkins in 10 years