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What has been your favorite "NEW"GnR Period?

For me its prob been the 2000-2002 period.

I just think from 2000-02 lineup had such a great feeling. I was watching a few songs from Rio the other day and I still get the same feeling 7 yrs later....MAGIC!

The band, including Axl, just seems to be at their peak during this time frame. Axl might not have had his best vocals during this time but everything seemed natural and fun.  Axl had a less hollywood feel to him as well than he does now and it just seemed like he didnt give a fuck during this period. The band seemed to have more fun on stage during this period as well.

I really hope that magic can be recaptured...


What are your fav. periods of new gnr???

definately 2007.

with ron on board it was great, frank is a great showman.

im glad they ditched the freak show image of the 2000/2001 era.

The Axl 2002 voice doesnt work for me, I love it on the blues but thats about it. I didnt care for Robin's Goth look and I didnt care for Paul Tobias too much.

So Present day is definitely my favorite.  Everything is clicking, everyone has a defined role and identity.

^^^^^

i completely agree, although i still enjoyed the new songs etc, i still found the whole band disjointed (in image and probably in musical direction at that time). Its much better in 2007, the band look like a "band", they look friendly and comfortable in their own skin and with eachother, which is a good thing for those who call it "the axl rose show"

More fun in 2002?

Don't agree at all.

How many surprise shows did they play then?


I would say 2006 to present.




/jarmo

2001-2002 was a special time. the vegas new years gig 2000 was the first gig in 7 years. all the speculation and waiting all built into that show. and the 2002 tour was very special as well. vegas 2000 was one of the best shows ever, hands down.

2006 to present too. they sound and look like a real band now.

It's all Guns N' Roses.

2006-Present.

Good answer, because "What has been your favorite period of GNR?" is a loaded question! 

That makes no sense at all what is my favorite period of NEW gnr?

Anyways for me overall I say 86-89 , just raw and real.

For new GN'R I saw from when BF joined and on , making it 06-to present. I think its a lot more funner now than in '02 , Axl is on top of his vocals and the band is not tight just musically but personally!!

I think the original poster is way off in everything he says.

Look at the facts:

2002: One New York show
2006: Five plus one surprise show

2002: One London show
2006: Three plus one surprise show

2002: A few radio interviews, short Axl interview at the VMAs (did I miss anything?)
2006: Spends hours telling stories and listening to songs on Eddie Trunk's radio show.

2001: Rock In Rio 3 on TV
2006: Rock In Rio Lisbon, Rock Am Ring, Inland Invasion (web stream)

2002: GN'R plays shows.
2006-7: GN'R plays shows and bring out old and new friends on stage (Izzy, Baz, Bubbles, Angry, Lars)



How you come to the conclusion that the band and Axl seemed to have more fun in 2002 is beyond me. I don't get it.

Pointing out that Axl was "less Hollywood" in 2002 as a good thing.

Axl goes out more in 2006-7 and that's suddenly a bad thing.  ::)



Maybe you just miss Buckethead and the only thing that matters to you is that he was in the band in 2002?





/jarmo

The only thing I missed in the 2006/07 gigs was Rhiad. Other than that, the current period is by far better in every aspect.

You really jump to conclusions man calm down the guy likes 02 better than now because of his reasons no need to attack him. 

I jump to conclusions? Haha!

What about the original thread starter who says things like "everything seemed natural and fun".

How you come to that conclusion with the facts we have today is just something I don't understand.




/jarmo

It's called an opinion , thats what you don't understand.....

Everything seemed fun and natural , to him , in his eyes , in his own opinion.  I mean for gods sake

"Maybe you just miss Buckethead and the only thing that matters to you is that he was in the band in 2002?"

It seems like anytime someone enjoys any other era except from today it is followed by

"Maybe you just miss -insert former member here- and the only thing that matters to you is that he was in the band in -insert era-?"

What facts? Surprise shows? Interviews? Maybe some people prefer , no actually some people DO prefer '02 , its called opinion...

No, I'm very aware that opinions are like assholes....


You don't understand, still don't even after your first ban, that when I see an opinion I disagree with, I will say so.




Sure. In his eyes it might've. But he didn't specify anything. Like what made him come to that conclusion.

As you might've noticed, I gave examples of why I think 2006/7 seemed more fun for the band.

So you can read the facts and then think "oh, OK I see why you think so" instead of just reading "2006 was fun".




Aren't those facts?

I don't know how to explain it to you if it doesn't make any sense.







And we're back to the original point: Why?

As I already said, I explained why I disagree. It's called a discussion.


You're just arguing with me for the sake of arguing. You have yet to add anything to the topic. Surprise, surprise.



Some of the people who prefer 2002 also wish the band would get to play more new songs. Compare the set lists from the US 2002 tour to the 2006 US tour and you'll notice that they played more new songs in 2006. So, are they saying the band was happier and had more fun when they played less new songs?  ???




/jarmo

I'm gonna go with 2006 til now. Primarily because the current incarnation is definitely my favorite line up Axl has had since the new century began. Other factors are getting to finally see Axl live in 06. I was at the first Hammerstein show and it was probably the happiest I've ever been at any of the hundreds of shows I've been to in my life. Also based on the bootlegs I've heard early in the decade Axl's voice sounded horrible, at least in my opinion. In 2006-Now everything I heard, especially in person, his voice sounded better than on the UYI tour. Better than ever maybe. Throw in the fact that CD has never seemed closer to coming to fruition and this to me is the golden age of the new GnR.

whenever my answer is everly present and the future.

so it seems to me too, save that the band in 2006~2007seemed to be again at their peak and to have no Hollywood feels(the peasant look is far from it!) on stage but more fun than then. the 02 image that 8 dudes coming from different genres harmonize well as a band unaffectedly was very fresh to me as well however I don't think it would be still fresh to see live after many years.
Did  you see any show in your fav period yourself?

Having got into this band in 2003 I always have a special spot for the visionary lineup and your old posts full of love for the band.
fortunately since 2006 I've seen the band actually going stronger than ever.  Now the real things.

I wouldn't miss great things happening right now by missing things of the past. never for something I didn't even get to see.

Moreover, I don't see a reason to take sides. They are not conflicting to each other.
If you're hurt thinking the band betrayed your confidence by altering what you'd defended, younggunner, you're dead wrong.  whatever lineup, axl and robin wouldn't cling to one style forever anyway. but the magic continues. The present isn't denying the previous period.  They are both periods in Chinese democracy and we've only seen the prologue to it.

false friends are all you hear and no one is speaking the same language. You know, the intro of Chinese democracy. Then the guitar starts to stop 2wice/a few times till it starts in earnest. Each call builds up the excitement. the first start has such a great feeling. then the second time it sounds more solid and confident. You might like one period better than the other but.... does it really matter??

Yeah 2006-present has really been amazing.

whats the big deal? the guy likes the 2002 period better. that's it. does he have to give you a detailed description of why? so you like the 2006 period better, well thats great. im not gonna ask you how you could say that or give me proof. thats laughable...

Every second since Axl went to that Korn party.

Even during quiet periods, I feel a buzz when I think about the band.  It's a very special time for us fans.

No, I haven't been hanging with fuckin crazy.

Look again.  Your post is still there.  ::)

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=51110.msg1054202#msg1054202

I hope you post an apology to the mods.  I think they do a pretty fuckin awesome job keeping shit posts to a minimum.  : ok:

2006 by far better than 2000-2002 but i do miss buckethead being in the band..dont dwell on it, but do wish he was still there and imo when  i hear cd it should solidify that for me. from a live aspect bh just blows ron away

ron is more fan friendly though and a better fit in the band but buckethead owns the guitar and axl knew/knows it 

I think everything since Axl walking into the Korn party has been great....More has happened in the past 2 years than the previous 12 combined...so that is awesome...Not to mention that the leaks are phenomenal....so I would have to say the past 2 years have been the best....but I will always have a soft spot for 1992...I remember staying up late to watch the MTV awards when the performed with Elton John...it was awesome... not too mention all the other stuff that went down that year....but if I had to choose I would say 2006-now

Can't help myself, here.  I tried to avoid this, because this is a loaded question, like I said before.  But, I'll say it anway... My favorite period of GnR? My ultimate favorite?  AFD era.  Sorry, nothing beats that.  Without that, they wouldn't be here, today.  Beyond that, the era with Axl (of course), Slash, Duff, Matt (heh, heh, ban me now.....), and Izzy.   

However, I am still interested in what's going on today.  That's why I found this place & continue to want to stay here.   

I think you and a couple others are misunderstanding the topic of the thread. It says in the first post "new" GnR. Like 99-now.

2006-Present

2001-02 was cool in a lot ways (Vegas shows, RIR III, MSG, Buckethead, etc.)... but there was just a "negative" energy surrounding the band at that point in time IMHO. Axl (for the most part) looked and sounded like crap. Finck and Buckethead evidently didn't really get along. MTV Awards didn't go exactly as well as it could have. Vancouver and Philly riots. Critics and public taking lots of pot shots at the band.

2006-Present has been so much better IMHO. Excitement of the Hammerstein shows. Very successful and completed tours (especially abroad). Axl looking and sounding 1000x better. Finck greatly improving his live performances and finally seeming comfortable in his role as lead guitarist. Bumblefoot providing much better "chemistry" and "stability" to the band than Buckethead did. High quality leaks. Generally good reviews. Everything continues to progress at a glacial pace... but there are at least some positive vibes surrounding the band the last few years... which is great considering that many of us thought the band was dead after the Philly riot in '02.

well it should say that in the title of the thread.....what is the point of this thread then?  who in the world is going to pick anything from 99-2004 over 2006 to present....lets see we have a band who practically did nothing except play a few shows OR we have a band with brand new leaks and SHITLOADS of shows....not too mention tons of info on "Chinese Democracy."  hmmmm......

I dunno, the people who like riots? lol Yeah I agree it should be in the title.

Thats true...On CNN the night the 2002 tour was supposed to start in Vancouver there was a crawl on the bottom of the screen that said someting to the effect of "guns n roses fans riot as lead singer Axl Rose no shows tour opener" ...it was like a breath of fresh air reading that.... :hihi:

nevermind the fact that it was Vancouvers fault because they canceled the show

I voted for 06-Present... but to the extent I struggled with it at alll, it was b/c I really dug Buckethead as a unique and unbelievable talent. Also, there was a great thrill surrounding the New Year's Eve Show and RIR III in early 2001 when Axl unveiled GN'R for the first time in 7.5 years and first performed "Chinese Democracry", "The Blues", "Madagascar", etc. Ultimately though, it doesn't compare to 06-Present, b/c it all led to nothing other than a pair of riots and more bad press for the band. The band chemistry is much better these days and there seems to be some actual momentum...

I'm going with 2006-present. Unfortunately I'm too lazy to change my avatar.

oops - sorry.  Well, the topic of the thread says....

and I swear that word in bold wasn't there, at first, but maybe I just missed it.     

I have to agree with you on this,I think the band is a lot better since they brought Ron into the band,he adds something cool to an already cool band,sure Buckethead was and is a great guitarist,but I think his image just didn't fit. :smoking:

2006/2007.

In that period, Axl shutted a lot of mouths and kicked a lot of asses

1986 - 1993: nothing to say more, that was my fav period.

Didn't read the first post  :P

Ok, well then I would say from 2006 until now.

Anyhow, why is this 'dead horse'??

86-94'.... Anything after just sucks. Especially when Buckethead was in the band.  What jump suits and chicken buckets have to do with rock n roll or gnr I don't know.