Stay of execution release date

[rizzo160]

I was on the new gnr website and the date of November 8, 2016 was listed as the release date for the stay of execution.  That is the next presidential election,  with the next tour to begin in spring of 2016.  What do you guys think?

[jarmo]

Unless it's posted on gunsnroses.com, you should take any release dates with a grain of salt.



/jarmo

[nick6sic6]

What "new gnr website" ? 
I'm sure that when we will have a release date it will be on facebook,twitter first and then on gunsnroses.com
Oh,and on every music site - portal all over the world.

[RnT]

Stay Of Execution is the next album?

Did I miss something? 

[Ginger King]

What "new gnr website" ? 
I'm sure that when we will have a release date it will be on facebook,twitter first and then on gunsnroses.com
Oh,and on every music site - portal all over the world.

I believe he means newgnr.com

[Gavgnr]

The person who wrote this on newgnr doesn't strike me as an attention grabber.

Maybe, just maybe, there's something to this.

2016 does seem to be the 'target' year according to band members and certain 'others'

[Mysteron]

I thought release dates had been changed to a Friday

[Evil Ash]

The person who wrote this on newgnr doesn't strike me as an attention grabber.

Maybe, just maybe, there's something to this.

2016 does seem to be the 'target' year according to band members and certain 'others'

Haha here we go again, fist time for me feeling like 1/6 of what it was like waiting for Chi Dem early 2000's

This time I'm just hoping for new shows and expecting something new to be played live...

[DeN]

I think about a word beginning by "bull" and finishing by "shit".

[rebelhipi]

Before i went to sleep, i read this thread.

I had a long dream about stay of execution coming out ala illusions. Stay of execution 1 and 2. Without any promo or announce. Atlas Shrugged wasent on the second album.


Sometimes i wish, that i wouldnt be this obsessed. 

[Lord Stan]

Surely the exact release date wouldn't be published this early even if there was a plan to release around that time. That simply means nothing and guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Sosso]

Just another fan made theory. Nothing new

[Lord Stan]

Just another fan made theory. Nothing new

I forgot to add that also releasing a long-awaited album on the day of the presidential election of the Greatest Nation on Earth would be just stupid. The media will concentrate on that. I suppose that this time round they might want to think a bit more about marketing.

[Sosso]

November 23 would have been more possible

[Yesterday]

Release date will be when uncle axl decides it is ready....

Until then live your own lives...

I'll go back to my mundane life on the greatest nation on earth and love my freedom, guns, military might, the right to tell anyone my opinions, the right to vote, oh and only in America can a loud mouth, ignorant moron like Donald trump think he can have a chance to be president!!!

[kyrie]

Has anyone reached out to anyone in the band to see if that even is a proposed title for a new album? There was tons of talk about Stay of Execution then it just sort of died down...

[Lord Stan]

There was tons of talk about Stay of Execution then it just sort of died down...

Well, I'd imagine there's nothing to talk about anymore. We know why we think that's the title and there's nothing else to it.

[JAEBALL]

Has anyone reached out to anyone in the band to see if that even is a proposed title for a new album? There was tons of talk about Stay of Execution then it just sort of died down...

Well.. there really wasnt ever anything to discuss...

It was just something that the boards turned in to a popular topic of discussion... there was never ANYTHING to suggest that it had anything to do with a Guns N Roses release.

We all hope that it is... but I'm sure we are a ways aways from that.

[D-GenerationX]

Well.. there really wasnt ever anything to discuss...

It was just something that the boards turned in to a popular topic of discussion... there was never ANYTHING to suggest that it had anything to do with a Guns N Roses release.

We all hope that it is... but I'm sure we are a ways aways from that.

Yep.  When you are never given anything to discuss, you reach. 

And you are correct that things like this can take on a life of their own within a closed community.

[The Wight Gunner]

Has anyone reached out to anyone in the band to see if that even is a proposed title for a new album? There was tons of talk about Stay of Execution then it just sort of died down...

Well.. there really wasnt ever anything to discuss...

It was just something that the boards turned in to a popular topic of discussion... there was never ANYTHING to suggest that it had anything to do with a Guns N Roses release.

We all hope that it is... but I'm sure we are a ways aways from that.

Howcan it not be anything to suggest it isnt a Guns n Roses release? If Axl fucking Rose has registered it, there is a bloody good chance it is exactly that 

[EmilyGNR]

STAY OF EXECUTION
Goods and Services   (ABANDONED) IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Digital media, namely, pre-recorded DVDs, downloadable audio and video recordings, and CDs featuring and promoting music; Pre-recorded CDs, video tapes, laser disks and DVDs featuring music
(ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment, namely, live performances by a musical band; Providing a website for entertainment purposes featuring videos, photos, news and music about a musical group
Standard Characters Claimed   
Mark Drawing Code   (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number   86302577
Filing Date   June 6, 2014
Current Basis   1B
Original Filing Basis   1B
Published for Opposition   October 28, 2014
Owner   (APPLICANT) Rose, W. Axl INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES c/o Doug Mark, 120 El Camino Dr.,Ste.104 Beverly Hills CALIFORNIA 90212
Attorney of Record   Pamela Hicks
Type of Mark   TRADEMARK. SERVICE MARK
Register   PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator   DEAD
Abandonment Date   July 27, 2015

[GNR2014]

What a shocker

[reayj2003]

What a shocker

HaHa...You gotta laugh...or... Weep!

[reayj2003]

Very EXCITING though!

[EmilyGNR]

Very EXCITING though!

Hell of a lot more exciting than whining on a message board 

[ROSE]

STAY OF EXECUTION
Goods and Services   (ABANDONED) IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Digital media, namely, pre-recorded DVDs, downloadable audio and video recordings, and CDs featuring and promoting music; Pre-recorded CDs, video tapes, laser disks and DVDs featuring music
(ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment, namely, live performances by a musical band; Providing a website for entertainment purposes featuring videos, photos, news and music about a musical group
Standard Characters Claimed   
Mark Drawing Code   (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number   86302577
Filing Date   June 6, 2014
Current Basis   1B
Original Filing Basis   1B
Published for Opposition   October 28, 2014
Owner   (APPLICANT) Rose, W. Axl INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES c/o Doug Mark, 120 El Camino Dr.,Ste.104 Beverly Hills CALIFORNIA 90212
Attorney of Record   Pamela Hicks
Type of Mark   TRADEMARK. SERVICE MARK
Register   PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator   DEAD
Abandonment Date   July 27, 2015

What is all this about? New Album or New Band?

[JAEBALL]

STAY OF EXECUTION
Goods and Services   (ABANDONED) IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Digital media, namely, pre-recorded DVDs, downloadable audio and video recordings, and CDs featuring and promoting music; Pre-recorded CDs, video tapes, laser disks and DVDs featuring music
(ABANDONED) IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment, namely, live performances by a musical band; Providing a website for entertainment purposes featuring videos, photos, news and music about a musical group
Standard Characters Claimed   
Mark Drawing Code   (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number   86302577
Filing Date   June 6, 2014
Current Basis   1B
Original Filing Basis   1B
Published for Opposition   October 28, 2014
Owner   (APPLICANT) Rose, W. Axl INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES c/o Doug Mark, 120 El Camino Dr.,Ste.104 Beverly Hills CALIFORNIA 90212
Attorney of Record   Pamela Hicks
Type of Mark   TRADEMARK. SERVICE MARK
Register   PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator   DEAD
Abandonment Date   July 27, 2015

What is all this about? New Album or New Band?

Nobody knows... a few months ago it was a hot topic of discussion that it could be a name of a new album or band/project, but all of that seems like a longshot right now.

[pilferk]

Whatever it was, it was abandoned, so it ain't no more.

[rebelhipi]

Thats a bummer.

[reayj2003]

And it was abondened the same day DJ released his letter. Coinsidense?

[GeorgeSteele]

And it was abondened the same day DJ released his letter. Coinsidense?

I think it is a coincidence.  My understanding is that if you apply to register a trademark that is not being used, but is intended to be used in the future, there's a certain deadline by which you actually have to provide evidence that you're using the trademark (or request an extension).  After that deadline passes, the application is considered abandoned.

[reayj2003]

I'm not covinced.

[Ginger King]

I'm not covinced.

Don't worry, I'm sure we'll get an official announcement soon.

[Spirit]

And it was abondened the same day DJ released his letter. Coinsidense?

I think it is a coincidence.  My understanding is that if you apply to register a trademark that is not being used, but is intended to be used in the future, there's a certain deadline by which you actually have to provide evidence that you're using the trademark (or request an extension).  After that deadline passes, the application is considered abandoned.

This is true.

[Ginger King]

And it was abondened the same day DJ released his letter. Coinsidense?

I think it is a coincidence.  My understanding is that if you apply to register a trademark that is not being used, but is intended to be used in the future, there's a certain deadline by which you actually have to provide evidence that you're using the trademark (or request an extension).  After that deadline passes, the application is considered abandoned.

This is true.

Still begs the questions:  what was it for and why was it abandoned?  Don't hold your breath waiting for answers.

[Spirit]

And it was abondened the same day DJ released his letter. Coinsidense?

I think it is a coincidence.  My understanding is that if you apply to register a trademark that is not being used, but is intended to be used in the future, there's a certain deadline by which you actually have to provide evidence that you're using the trademark (or request an extension).  After that deadline passes, the application is considered abandoned.

This is true.

Still begs the questions:  what was it for and why was it abandoned?  Don't hold your breath waiting for answers.

As you don't trademark album names, I still believe it was some sort of project, a band name.

[FunkyMonkey]

If it's a coincidence.  It's a strange coincidence.

[TheBaconman]

Why would abandon a trademark?

If you go through all the trouble of coming up with a name and then all the trouble of filling for the trade mark, wouldn't you just keep it?

Unless there is super high costs involved in keeping it, but I don't think there is

It's interesting for sure

[pilferk]

Bacon...the process is a pain in the ass.

You apply, pay a fee, and get a temporary/preliminary trademark.

Then you have to file a crap ton of paperwork, a detailed explanation of why you want it, what you're going to do with it (exactly) and why your use necessitates having the phrase/logo/etc trademarked.

Then, when you submit it, you pay an even bigger fee.

Then there is phase 3, where they ponder all the stuff you submitted, review to make sure there is no existing conflict with your trademark, and, I think,  allow "public comment" (ie: people can write in and object to your use because they are using the phrase/logo/etc in a similar way).

This looks to have gone through the first phase, and then the second was never completed (or the offices were notified that there was no intent to complete the 2nd phase).  There's lots of "non-DJ" reasons why that might be.

Heck...maybe they had an idea for use, and filed just to make sure there were no conflicts with something that IS trademarked...with no intention to go further.   Maybe their use doesn't require a trademark, but they wanted to make sure there were no potential conflicts/violations/confusions.

[GeorgeSteele]

Why would abandon a trademark?

If you go through all the trouble of coming up with a name and then all the trouble of filling for the trade mark, wouldn't you just keep it?

Unless there is super high costs involved in keeping it, but I don't think there is

It's interesting for sure

If the trademark is not used commercially by a certain deadline, the US trademark office will consider the application abandoned because they will not register trademarks that are not actually used.  So it's not as if Axl filed something to abandon this, he just missed a deadline by not doing anything with the "Stay of Execution" name (whatever it was going to be for).  

[Ginger King]

Bacon...the process is a pain in the ass.

You apply, pay a fee, and get a temporary/preliminary trademark.

Then you have to file a crap ton of paperwork, a detailed explanation of why you want it, what you're going to do with it (exactly) and why your use necessitates having the phrase/logo/etc trademarked.

Then, when you submit it, you pay an even bigger fee.

Then there is phase 3, where they ponder all the stuff you submitted, review to make sure there is no existing conflict with your trademark, and, I think,  allow "public comment" (ie: people can write in and object to your use because they are using the phrase/logo/etc in a similar way).

This looks to have gone through the first phase, and then the second was never completed (or the offices were notified that there was no intent to complete the 2nd phase).  There's lots of "non-DJ" reasons why that might be.

Heck...maybe they had an idea for use, and filed just to make sure there were no conflicts with something that IS trademarked...with no intention to go further.   Maybe their use doesn't require a trademark, but they wanted to make sure there were no potential conflicts/violations/confusions.

The process is not really that complicated...and let's be honest, Axl is not filling out the paperwork.  I don't think it was abandoned because the process was too complex or cost-prohibitive.

[pilferk]

Bacon...the process is a pain in the ass.

You apply, pay a fee, and get a temporary/preliminary trademark.

Then you have to file a crap ton of paperwork, a detailed explanation of why you want it, what you're going to do with it (exactly) and why your use necessitates having the phrase/logo/etc trademarked.

Then, when you submit it, you pay an even bigger fee.

Then there is phase 3, where they ponder all the stuff you submitted, review to make sure there is no existing conflict with your trademark, and, I think,  allow "public comment" (ie: people can write in and object to your use because they are using the phrase/logo/etc in a similar way).

This looks to have gone through the first phase, and then the second was never completed (or the offices were notified that there was no intent to complete the 2nd phase).  There's lots of "non-DJ" reasons why that might be.

Heck...maybe they had an idea for use, and filed just to make sure there were no conflicts with something that IS trademarked...with no intention to go further.   Maybe their use doesn't require a trademark, but they wanted to make sure there were no potential conflicts/violations/confusions.

The process is not really that complicated...and let's be honest, Axl is not filling out the paperwork.  I don't think it was abandoned because the process was too complex or cost-prohibitive.

Agree, it's not complicated.  It's just a pain in the ass.

Axl might not be the one filling out the paperwork, but he's the one sourcing the material (providing the explanation, etc) and funding the 2nd phase.  I don't think it was abandoned because it was too complex or costly.

I suspect it was abandoned because it was, ultimately, judged (for whatever reason) to be not worth the effort to get through phase 2 (or they were late....).

[TheBaconman]

Thanks boy for the explanation on the trademark process

[Ginger King]

Bacon...the process is a pain in the ass.

You apply, pay a fee, and get a temporary/preliminary trademark.

Then you have to file a crap ton of paperwork, a detailed explanation of why you want it, what you're going to do with it (exactly) and why your use necessitates having the phrase/logo/etc trademarked.

Then, when you submit it, you pay an even bigger fee.

Then there is phase 3, where they ponder all the stuff you submitted, review to make sure there is no existing conflict with your trademark, and, I think,  allow "public comment" (ie: people can write in and object to your use because they are using the phrase/logo/etc in a similar way).

This looks to have gone through the first phase, and then the second was never completed (or the offices were notified that there was no intent to complete the 2nd phase).  There's lots of "non-DJ" reasons why that might be.

Heck...maybe they had an idea for use, and filed just to make sure there were no conflicts with something that IS trademarked...with no intention to go further.   Maybe their use doesn't require a trademark, but they wanted to make sure there were no potential conflicts/violations/confusions.

The process is not really that complicated...and let's be honest, Axl is not filling out the paperwork.  I don't think it was abandoned because the process was too complex or cost-prohibitive.

Agree, it's not complicated.  It's just a pain in the ass.

Axl might not be the one filling out the paperwork, but he's the one sourcing the material (providing the explanation, etc) and funding the 2nd phase.  I don't think it was abandoned because it was too complex or costly.

I suspect it was abandoned because it was, ultimately, judged (for whatever reason) to be not worth the effort to get through phase 2 (or they were late....).

It kind of fits the "something changed" narrative that Jarmo alluded to.  Last fall, DJ was talking about 2015 being a big year for Guns...lots of touring and working on new album, etc., etc...and then "something changed" and the narrative went from touring/new album, to no touring this year, to he quit the band.  Plus, Richard's story changed as well, to where he recently admitted he has no clue what the next plans are.

[pilferk]

Thats the story of gnr, in a nutshell.