Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I have talked to plenty of people, but nobody ever responds back.  I would really like to trade these for some DVD'S!!

Brazil - 1/20/91
November Rain -AFD demos
Guns N Roses In Rio - 1/20/91 Full show 2 DVD's
Bad Boys, Great Noize - 12/26/97
Patiience - CBGB's and 3 Ritz 88 songs
God Bless America - 7/17/92
Skahin Pumpkins - Illusion demos
Practice For Destruction - AFD De

Hey,

If youre looking to trade for these then i may be interested

Ill pm you a list of what DVD's i have up for trade

CJ

I offered cash for a few of them and was asked to give DVDs in addition to the cash.... Not a big fan of offering an exuberant amount of boot for stuff in return.  Selling, silver or not, isn't too welcome around here either... but don't ask for both cash and trades.

 :peace:

He's probably a rip-off artist... Why get either free DVDs or money when you can have both for free???

even if u had to buy from him the cd's are used not worth more than 12.00 each. i do not recomend buying them because if he wants more than 12 each it is a rip off

He was asking 10/each plus trades.  No fuckin way will I pay that kind of cash and then trade on top of that.  It's a rip.

correct if you offered 10 each that was enough maybe 12 each

 I think if you recall the situation, you my friend offered up the price in question.  I then asked about DVD's yes, BUT you never answered back.  I was more than willing to drop the price if I also got some DVD's, but we never got to that stage of the conversation.  All I want is some GNR material....I don't have high speed torrents are out for me!!

well if he wants them he will get back to u. i think that each cd that is used is only worth 2 dvdr shows that are 2 dvd  each so if it is 1 dvdr shows it is worth up to 4 dvdr. take in mind this is my opinion only because the cd silvers are not worth more than 10.00 or 12.00 each

can you be more specific? How many dvds for ''Brazil''?

LIKE I SAID BANZAI IS 2 CD

FOR IT IT WOULD BE 4 DOUBLE DVD SETS OR 8 SINGLE DVD SETS

8 DVDR's for a silver? Um, that's a rip off IMO.

where do u see it a ripp off on who's end
first of all the silver is used so it cut's the walue in half then it depends on how long u had it it cuts the value more so 8 dvdr is far trust me

How does that make any sense?? If I have a silver pressed bootleg that I've had for 20 years, that has never been opened and is in perfect condition, you're trying to tell me the value goes down because I've had it that long?? So if I gave it to someone else and they only had it for a day, then the value goes back up, according to your theory, right?? Did you make that up?? Nobody in their right mind would follow those guidelines. NOBODY!! So, all I would have to do is shrinkwrap the CD myself and lie and say I just bought it and have had it for two days, and I would get full price from you??  Hahahaha!! Whatever TD touchdown.

Can someone still explain to me why Silver boots hold so much value?

I just don't understand.

because if u go buy them in the store or boot shop whatever it costs for 1 cd over 25.00 2 cd over 50.00 3 cd over 75.00 4 cd costs 100.00

That still doesn't answer my question as to why?

What is so special about them?

Bandita, I couldn't have explained it better myself. I'm sure you know all about the value of silver pressed bootlegs now.

that is the main point the cost is high compared to d/led cdr is really to me the real reason

Those are the key words in bold.

thanks for your kind works even though we do not see eye to eye alot

 :rofl:

Yea, I can see clearly now the rain is gone.................. :hihi:

I don't understand WHY these boots hold more value than others. ?They are still BOOTS aka usually crappy ass recordings. ?So what if some company pressed them? ?WHY are they so special? ?No one can ever seem to answer this question.

thanks for your kind words even though we do not see eye to eye alot

that is the main point i see to u they mean less to u

So because a bootleg costs more money to buy this makes it better than one I can download that is the same exact quality?

Someone please explain this logic to me.

What you said was just common sense and didn't answer Bandita's question at all. If go buy a CD at a store, it's worth what I paid for it, according to you.  Everything is worth what you paid for it, right? So how the hell does that answer Bandita's question as to why silver pressed bootlegs are so special? It's not because they cost 10$ more than a regular CD.

What amazes me is you can understand his posts, because I am trying and I certainly can't :rofl: :rofl:
Timebomb, why are you always starting up with people? Just post your "thx" posts and everything will be all cool...

 ;)

My interpreter is here EFISH, that's why I can respond.

I don't know how I can phrase my question any clearer, really.

Lemme try again:

I can go to the store and buy a silver pressed boot for $25.00

Someone uploads the tracks here for free-same quality-

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

because to me to own the real cd it is worth me to u because u paid for. but if u d/l it it was free. so this is my opinion only others might be different i respect it

Right I understand this.  But in effect it is just a real BOOTLEG.  Not anything official, so why would it have more worth than another?

Paying money for something doesn't make it a better recording, IMO. 

not they quality i mean
it has to do with u paid for it is all i am saying

it has the real inserts compared to what u d/l  it is all in opinion like i said to each there own

So, in essence you are telling me that paying money for a bootleg makes it better?

I mean the inserts are not official either.  They are simply made by a bootlegging company instead of a fan.

I do not grasp the difference.

In all fairness to Bandita TimeBomb, you need to answer her original question:

"Can someone still explain to me why Silver boots hold so much value?"

I would like to know as well.

nevermind u do not wanna see the point

Yes, why?  You have only explained how much they cost, not why they have any value.

Ok timebomb, they just want to know if on silvers the quality is better or not?
Because IF it is the same as downloading the files for free (which I dont know if it is or not) then buying them does not make any sense and you'd have to be totally out of your mind to do it.
So they are asking if the files on silver discs are better quality than just downloading them? YOU are not understanding there question.  ::)

u people better learn i answered it once when i told the price of bootlegs that is why they are worth more in trades to alot of traders

All I have learned here is you are paying more money for the same recording.

Except it went through a pressing mill and some bootleg company added some artwork.

Alrighty then?

Please don't get upset TB. All we are asking is why silver pressed boots are so valuable to traders, not how much they cost...

ok fish yes the only way files are better on a silver is if they are put in a lower format like mp3,otherwise downloading flac or wave u get the cd exact.

but i think this is 1 of the top reasons only

u people better learn i answered it once when i told the price of bootlegs that is why they are worth more in trades to alot of traders

u have to understand some silver are rare as well but it is the cost of them is the main vaule hold on traders why they want more

But what is the difference between a Silver CD and a regular one then? That is the question being asked. Is it less compressed on a silver CD making it better quality or something?

u have to understand some silver are rare as well but it is the cost of them is the main vaule hold on traders why they want more

i have found this out the hard way lot's and lot's of times in my trading i had to pay alot in money or trade incdr or dvdr to get my stuff

TB, it doesn't help when you copy and paste things you already said, like the sentence in bold. You already did this a few times in this thread. I guess I'm just confused on this whole situation. I like downloading shows but if it's better to buy them, then maybe I should start buying them. I actually think it would make more sense to buy a silver pressed bootleg for the artwork and plastic case for 25$, as opposed to downloading it without the plastic case for free. I don't know what to do??

Does a silver cd last longer than a burned one?? I mean, if you leave your cd's in the car in the hot weather, would a silver cd last longer than a purple bottomed one?? These silver cd's are sounding better and better.

OK, I understand that a silver boot is a pressed boot and this is different from a CDR

But in essence in reality it is still bootlegging for profit, not authorized by the band.

You are still giving money to a bootlegger, just one that makes a bigger profit than a guy who records a show and sells it online.

WHY?

silver cd bootlegs are cda wave files if u put to the pc change the format to flac u loose no quality but if it goes to anything like mp3 let's say it is highlty compressed and looses quality. alot like mp3 i understand that issue. but it is a bad quality loss

Because it is worth more Bandita. It's silver and not purple bottomed.

The question has nothing to do with mp3s.

Thanks but my question had NOTHING to do with mp3's and that. I know when you convert to mp3 you lose quality but I was just asking if the files ON a SILVER are better quality than the ones on a CDR (if they are both waves or flac)
 ???

nevermind u just do not wanna see the point because i maid it loud and clear alot in hear why trader value silvers more in a trade

No you didn't you just said you pay more for them.  Since when does price=quality?

fish no they are the same as long as the person does not make a bad rip in the flac files or wave files they upload

So what is so rare about them besides they were pressed by some bootlegger who likes to overcharge?

u seem not to get the point quality is not why they hold the silvers so high in trade paying for them ?and rareness is alot of it like i told fish the files are the same depending on if the rip is of ?and u d/l ok to cdr

I'm confused about this whole thing. Do mp3's go onto Silver pressed cd's only??  I don't understand where the mp3's go?? FLAC can only be burned to CDR and not pressed?? I'm so lost guys... sorry.

Thank you, that is what I was getting at the whole time...
Which leads to the next question of why would a CDR be cheaper than a Silver when they have the EXACT same files in the EXACT same quality? ???

ok put it this way go look for this cd set
the gold box sessions and tell me if u would trade it cheap if only if u bought it let's see your answer it is over 200.00 in price

So silver pressed cd's are always a lossy format?? Is that what you're saying??

Where do I look?? Is the box real GOLD?? If it is I would pay the 200.00.

Is there something in this set that I can't download for free? ?What am I paying for besides fancy packaging?

ok u d/led my cd set i paid 50.00 for u paid .20 for and d/led so it is worth less because it is not the silver
now fish this is my opinion only

How did EFISH get a bootleg for .20 cents when you paid 50.00$??  Does he know a cheap bootlegger or what?? I think I want to start going to EFISH's hook-up for bootlegs.  Hell if I can save 49.80$, why not??

i see your opinion it all should be free
you are correct
but u are living in the real world here as i found out years ago not all boots are free

now to answer your q
no there is nothing u can not get in that set not on other i know this but see i am different than all booot traders here i collect every cd cdr i can get that has a title

now if it was all freely traded like i did on the dime this trading we do would be a breeze but as we all know there is alot of hoarding or selling ect

i will amit i offered my stuff for sale o well ?i hag a guy come to me first.

so like i said to answer your q twice ? ?NO

IT WAS AN EXAMPLE

FOR 1 I PUT THE FILES ON  HERE U GOT 2 CDR THAT COST .20 FOR

Actually, to correct you...
It cost me $0.00  :)

OK let me use an example.

Dankrass recorded 2 Hammerstein shows and put them out in lossless format for all the fans for free.

Now I know, you, TB paid for Japanese boots of the same recordings because I saw them on dime.

Why pay when they were already there for free?

Same for silver boots, no matter how you answer you keep putting it into dollars and cents.

Oh, I'm sorry. I got it now. I was so excited there for a second. I thought I was going to start getting silver pressed bootlegs for .20$. Silly me.

Turn down the caps, man.  Just some friendly questions here.

But your answers keep boiling down to money paid.

that is the full point  finally

Goodnight everyone, thanks for the laughs :rofl: :rofl:

i seen nothing funny when it is the truth and u guys want it all free  well it is not going to turn out that way

I think you're right EFISH, it's time for bed.  Goodnight EFISH, Bandita and TimeBomb.  Thanks for answering all those questions TB.

your welcome

i love you timebomb

this is funny.. why do you guys fuck with him?

I'm sitting at work atm having a shitty day.. this thread made me laugh tho. Thanks.

Are you guys still discussing why silver CDs are better?  (I quit reading.)

I think it's similar to owning the MFSL CDs.  You can't make a silver CD at home (easily), so die-hards want the original, even though it is still a boot.

They were especially awesome back in the day, when there weren't CD recorders like we have today.  That's when I got all mine.

I was asking a serious question-


This answers my question, thank you