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« Reply #120 on: May 17, 2010, 11:16:45 PM »

Season 3 was the year I started watching.  That got me hooked, then I went back and watched seasons 1 and 2.  What happened in season 6?  I forget.  I enjoyed every season.  Obviously some were better than others, but I never thought any of them were "bad".
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« Reply #121 on: May 25, 2010, 02:41:27 PM »

I can't believe there will be no more 24 on Fox every Monday night.

It was a good (if slightly predictable) ending.  The last scene was basically perfect....as were the two characters involved.
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« Reply #122 on: May 25, 2010, 07:43:27 PM »

Anyone who hasn't seen the finale should probably stay out of this thread until they do.


I agree pilferk.  I didn't know how to react to the show initially after it ended, but looking back on it I think they ended it perfectly.  It ended as any 24 fan would've wanted even if was a true finale.  But at the same time they set themselves up nicely to go on to the big screen.  I agree with you about the predictability, which is the only reason I didn't give it an A+ right off the bat.  I was expecting more surprises and twists.  BUT, as I said, looking back I think it was a near perfect ending.
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« Reply #123 on: May 26, 2010, 11:48:13 AM »

staying away from reading peoples posts. ive just seen the episode where

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jack goes mental n tortures the shit out of that guy.
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« Reply #124 on: May 26, 2010, 10:02:37 PM »

Fucking amazing finale in my opinion.  2001-2010...it's been a great ride.
This last season just kept getting better and better.
A movie would be nice...a new season a couple of years from now would be even better!  Smiley
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« Reply #125 on: May 26, 2010, 11:55:03 PM »

I saw this posted over at www.gnrevolution.com.  Obviously don't read until you see the finale.

Howard Gordon talks Finale:

SPOILER ALERT: If you have yet to watch the 24  series finale, stop reading now. Executive Producer Howard Gordon may reveal information that you don’t want to know until you’ve watched the entire two-hour goodbye, so leave this page ASAP!

Okay, you’ve been warned…

Much about the eighth and final season of 24 may have tried your patience — Dana Walsh, President Taylor’s tap dance on the Constitution, Jack’s attraction to the once hard-hearted, now all-gooey-inside Renee. Fortunately, Executive Producer Howard Gordon — like Kiefer Sutherland’s Jack Bauer — is a thick-skinned man who knows what he wants and makes no apologies. Here, the veteran writer who’s been on the show since the beginning talks about preparing for the show’s series finale, why he left some characters on the cutting room floor this season (sorry, Aaron Pierce and Tony Almeida!) and how the finale will tee up the 24 movie.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Did you know at the beginning of the season that you wanted Jack looking up at a drone and saying goodbye to Chloe in the end?
HOWARD GORDON: Definitely not.  That was something we came to fairly later in the game.  And it was an image I was certainly searching for all year but not one that I found until the very end.

What about Jack going completely off the rails?
Yes, that was very much designed from the beginning. How it would end, however, was something that was really unknown. I saw a little bit further ahead than I generally do, and we wanted to knit Jack and Renee together, only to take them apart, and for that to have a really profound effect on Jack. That’s about as far as we knew in the broad strokes. How that was going to happen, and how it would impact Allison Taylor and Chloe — those were late-to-the-party additions that I think helped bolster that initial idea.

Did you know at the start of the season that the Russians would be the ultimate villains?
No idea.

So you didn’t know at the beginning that President Taylor would go to the dark side with Logan?
There was some other mid-season purpose for her, but I can’t remember. But even in the beginning, I told her I didn’t have much of a part for her. My initial impulse, and our initial impulse, was that there was no more story to tell. That she, this character, had pretty much exhausted her story. And we needed her mostly to tee-up Omar Hassan, and help ennoble him as a character, rather than you know, step front and center stage herself. So the idea was always to have her at the edges of the stage, teeing up this character, and as it turned out, she became a profound player in the drama. It’s not just the death of Renee so much as it is the deprivation of justice that gets Jack to this place. I think it’s really important to look at those two as being, you know, a flip side to the same coin.

You entered treacherous territory with Taylor because you originally set her up to be a principled president.
Yeah, it was a big challenge.  I know she was surprised, and she was such a great sport, and such a phenomenal actor. But I have to say, it was challenging both to write and then to communicate to her what we were trying to do.

Did you expect to get push back from fans?
You do this long enough and you start realizing that you are going to get push back for everything. You are not going to win everywhere.  There are going to be unhappy people no matter what, and that’s part of the challenge of doing a show for this long. I think that I would be hard-pressed to look at a show that has kept its fan base completely happy for its entire long run, particularly one that’s serialized.

You killed off a lot of key people this year.
That’s not what we set out to do but there was a kind of a go-for-broke aspect to this year, so we felt freer to do some extreme behavior, some extreme things. I really hope that we never merged into the place where it was gratuitous, or sensational, or hysterical. I felt like the deaths that occurred were ones that were justified by the story.

The gut-wrenching scene with Pavel, Renee’s killer — what did that get you?
That was a combination of a conversation with Kiefer and a way to dramatize that Jack had actually stepped over the line, and had gone to a red zone. We knew it was going to be a risk. Kiefer really went for it. It was a grotesque ballet that he wound up dancing.

Why did you have Jack fall for Renee?
The human connections that Jack has really makes the seasons stronger. What he wants, and who he wants it with, is really important. In the end, her involvement in what was happening, and her redemption to herself in what was happening, became the very center and the reason why Jack goes back to pick up the gun again.

Dana Walsh wasn’t very popular with fans, either.
We anticipated that from the very beginning. This woman had a secret life, with a secret life behind it — something that came out later. It emotionally justified something that we always recognized was a pretty tricky and far-out story. We were very lucky to have Katee Sackhoff play along.

Did you consider a potential love connection between Allison and Ethan, her Secretary of State?
We did consider it. Bob Gunton [Ethan] confessed one night after a couple glasses of wine to having some imaginary past with her that extended beyond their professional one.

Did you consider showing the recovery of Bill Prady’s corpse after Dana shoved it into the wall at CTU?
Yes, we did. But it was a scene we never got to. We figured it takes five hours for a body to decompose and by then, the season is over. That’s what we told ourselves, anyway.

How come you didn’t bring back Tony Almeida this season?
We tempted fate once with him, for sure.  I seem to have gotten away with it, so we consider ourselves lucky and ahead of the game.

What about Alan Wilson, who masterminded the Sentox nerve gas conspiracy last year?
I think you got a sense that Renee broke him and broke the back of the conspiracy at a tremendous personal and professional price.

Did you ever consider bringing back Mandy, the professional assassin from seasons 1, 2 and 4?
Mandy always came up a bunch of times, but unfortunately, it felt like a sensational move. We chose not to go down that path.

Aaron Pierce?
We always considered bringing back Aaron Pierce. The story never presented itself. Other than Kiefer, he is the only one who has been in every season. Unfortunately, we couldn’t give him a perfect run.

The pitch for the 24 movie was done before the series ender. Did you draft off the pitch?
The movie has to defer to the end of the TV show, not the other way around.

Will it be a prequel?
It definitely will not be a prequel.

What will your role be on the movie?
I’ll be a producer on it. There is a draft that is in. No one is in a position right now to know when or what the movie will be, exactly.  Now that the TV show is over, the movie will be it’s own thing.

What are you most proud of this season?
I am proud of the whole season. Every year has become increasingly challenging to do and so getting through it gave me a tremendous feeling of accomplishment. I would say my favorite moment was the last moment. That was the moment I felt the most pressure. It’s an exercise I go through at the end of every year: Who do you want to see, and then how do you figure out a story with the people you want to see?  In this case — of course — it was Chloe, Taylor, and Jack.

If you had your druthers, do you wish Lost and 24 had ended a year apart, not around the same time?
All I can say is I hope we will be missed as much as Lost. I hope we will both be missed.  It’s good to be missed rather then sent out of town on a rail.
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« Reply #126 on: May 30, 2010, 05:40:52 PM »

Faldor, thanks for the great post.  Very inteersting read...I had almost forgot about Mandy!  If I'm remembering her correctly, I think she was the hottest chick to ever appear on 24.  Good stuff!  beer

24, easily one of the best (if not the best) tv shows of the decade.
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« Reply #127 on: June 07, 2010, 12:50:18 PM »

The ending was that crap it gave me a migraine. Im serious. I sat with a genuine facepalm for 10 minutes with my girlfriend scared i was actually going to break down. Then rested my face into her for another 10 minutes. Then i finally got up.

That was the most infuriating "ending" ive ever watched, even more so than Season 7s so called "Ending".

Wheres the resolve? There isnt any resolve, no end to it. Id rather them of killed Jack, because at least their would be closure. Not this, painstakingly annoying ending!

They better make a movie, and it better be bloody good. Because if they do not resolve those questions, and truly finish the story of Jack and the fate of the entire fuckin world. Seriously i dont know what ill do.

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« Reply #128 on: June 07, 2010, 08:53:48 PM »

I thought it was a perfect ending.  It leaves things completely open for a movie, which is the ultimate plan.  But even if a movie wasn't in the works, I think the ending was perfect.  Would you really want to see Jack die?  Chloe?  The conversation at the end between those two was great and Jack ends the series on the run, as he has been most of the time we've known him.  Would you rather him live happily ever after as Grandpa Jack in LA with Kim?  Boring!
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« Reply #129 on: June 08, 2010, 09:41:26 AM »

Like i said, i would rather some form of resolve, a ending to the story.

Once more that is not an ending. Ok they are making a film, great i dont hate them quite as much. But in regards to a story, its just another "cliff hanger" ending that leaves alot of ? for the viewers.
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« Reply #130 on: June 08, 2010, 09:45:23 AM »

Like i said, i would rather some form of resolve, a ending to the story.

Once more that is not an ending. Ok they are making a film, great i dont hate them quite as much. But in regards to a story, its just another "cliff hanger" ending that leaves alot of ? for the viewers.
Not nearly as many questions as there were from last season though.  Jack is on the run, and is a wanted man in both the US and Russia.  There's really no way to wrap that up outside of Jack being captured or killed.  And even if that happened, he's already broken out of prison once, so.
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« Reply #131 on: June 08, 2010, 09:57:42 AM »

If you remember i did complain majorly about Season 7's ending. Season 7 was a very good, and kind of different 24 series, the ending totally spoilt it. They didnt answer most of it in Season 8 either which pissed me off.

I just wanted a true ending. Instead of an ending that makes me want another Season to see whats gonna happen next.
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« Reply #132 on: July 20, 2010, 01:27:04 PM »

Hey, mrlee, I don't know how many seasons you bought, but if you or anybody else is interested, I came across this:

http://www.tescoentertainment.com/store/dvd/24--season-1--4-boxset/8%3a683913/

The first four seasons for 24 quid! Worth a punt for anybody in the UK that doesn't have them, surely.
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« Reply #133 on: July 20, 2010, 03:03:43 PM »

^ gutted, i wish id of seen that.

I got seasons 1,2 ,3 4, 5.

i need 6 and 7.
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