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« on: May 18, 2004, 03:33:25 PM »

Just heard the Minneapolis show, and man is that a beautiful song. Slash's guitar is practically crying at spots on it. This song will be a crossover Smash for them as its not too hard or overly complicated. Just a beautful ballad. I can't wait to hear a studio version, and I can't wait for the masses to hear this song. It will fit into so many different types of radio formats as the guitars are not overly agressive, and it will be huge. That and You got no right will certainly get more than their fair share of radio play when the time comes. I am more excited about VR than ever right now.  drool
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2004, 04:45:17 PM »

Yeah, the song was great, I liked it for the very first time I've heard. Slash's guitar reminds me of Led Zeppelin's ballads - such a brilliant playing, a fine theme with a lot of emotion.  ok
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2004, 05:03:00 PM »

absolutly rrrright.
this song roxor.
VR is da bomb. i really enjoy that mineap show. i hope we get more soon, and i sure hope they come and tour in europe ....

VR is saving us !
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2004, 05:03:49 PM »

How can i hear this song?

Thank you, please
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2004, 05:07:13 PM »

How can i hear this song?

Thank you, please

Visit the Mineapolis thread, there you'll find the Bittorrent file you can download.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2004, 05:36:21 PM »

I disagree. I think its a pretty good song but not a timeless osng or anything. The comparisons to scom or NV arent even close. The song has no energy to it. Slash guitar work is pretty dam good in it but aside form the chorus with the guitar the song isnt that good. He must sing the chorus a zillion times.

If this is the song Vr or their fans are banking on, you are all delusional. The song that should be talked about is Illegal I. That song has a great feel and vibe. Has energy and isnt repetive.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2004, 05:51:57 PM »

The song is great because it is simple. It's soft and Slash's guitar is amazing. The nature of it will allow it to be played on so many different radio formats because VR aren't pigeon holed into a certain niche in the rock world. It could easily become a huge song because compared to anything else out there, it blows them away in terms of being a heart felt ballad with Slash's guitar crying. it's not overly long to prohibit it from being played on the radio, and I can already see a killer video. I am sorry you don't like the song younggunner, but the formula in it screams cross over hit, which will only add interest to the band. The song is not supposed to be the second coming of NR. It is what it is. Most of this generation has never even heard Slash's guitar showcased, there will be plenty of people who love this song. Sorry its no maddie or the blues. confused
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2004, 06:29:05 PM »

I disagree. I think its a pretty good song but not a timeless osng or anything. The comparisons to scom or NV arent even close. The song has no energy to it. Slash guitar work is pretty dam good in it but aside form the chorus with the guitar the song isnt that good. He must sing the chorus a zillion times.

If this is the song Vr or their fans are banking on, you are all delusional. The song that should be talked about is Illegal I. That song has a great feel and vibe. Has energy and isnt repetive.


thats like saying Coma is better than sweet child, jungle and paradise. A song doesn't have to go on and on to be a good song. Don't get me wrong Coma is problably in my top 5 fav songs
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2004, 06:49:58 PM »

I'm not a fan of the song by any means but I do think it has the potential to go about as far as a power ballad can go in this day and age.  

It has a chance to reach multiple formats and varied forms of audience, hell, it'll probably get some run on pure pop stations that play Britney and the like.

That said, I doubt seriously it'll reach the heights of success SCOM did, I mean c'mon, that song was released in a time when the power ballad ruled the airwaves and it's generally considered one of the classics of the genre..

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2004, 07:00:04 PM »

Oh, there will never be another scom or NR. First NR wil never be repeated because there is no station that will continuously play a 9 minute song. SCOM will never be repeated because the song had a classic riff that was like lightning in a bottle, you can't recreate the wheel again. Also, MTV doesn't play rock music video's so that doesn't help either. All that being said, at about 4and a half minutes it is a tame enough song it will end up on pop radio and various different formats as stated above. VR doesn't have a built in niche like GNR or STP where they are strictly classic rock or strictly alternative, but can be whatever at this point. The song will have the same appeal a nickelback song would. Top 40 will play it, as well as the hard and modern rock stations. That is its best chance at success as it is not a hard song and the guitars are extremely melodic.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2004, 07:22:49 PM »

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Most of this generation has never even heard Slash's guitar showcased, there will be plenty of people who love this song. Sorry its no maddie or the blues.
Im sure it will be a well recieved song. All im saying is that Ive been reading these fan reviews  that compared the song to scom or nv. And in no way does the song have any of those vibes or resemble them in any way.

Its a pretty good song. The guitar work is excellent. Its not slash at his best but its def. the best thing ive heard from him since gnr. The strengths of the osng is slash work and the chorus...

It def doesnt come close to maddy.

 after i hear a better version i can judge it more objectively.
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2004, 07:33:29 PM »

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It def doesnt come close to maddy.

 after i hear a better version i can judge it more objectively.

No Offense YG..

But...

Seeing how the above statement is purely subjective, I doubt any amount of objectivity will ever come into play for the "Maddy = instant classic" fan.
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2004, 08:20:30 PM »

The song that should be talked about is Illegal I. That song has a great feel and vibe. Has energy and isnt repetive.

While I do think Fall to Pieces is a great song, I am going to have to agree and say Illegal I is definitely a song to talk about as well. I have it from the Minneapolis show and it sounds awesome!
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2004, 09:58:48 PM »

can sombody send me an mp3 of this song?
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2004, 12:00:22 AM »

I am just sitting here listening to this song right now, and am just blown away by the melody of it. It's nice and soft, and I can just see Slash making that guitar cry the way only he can.....the more i listen the more simplistic the song gets....scott is right about the melody on this song, it is just fantastic. It won't blow anyone away the way a NR did, but man is the melody on this song just beautiful.
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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2004, 01:03:05 AM »

WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE PUT UP AN MP3 Huh??
the torrent file is too large to download, it will take 6-7 hours Sad
and if you do put up fall to pieces, please put up Illegal I as well
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2004, 01:52:12 AM »

Someone posted this link on another thread:

http://www.mama-kin.co.uk/downloads/Velvet%20Revolver%202004-05-15,%20Minnealpolis/

Make sure you copy and paste the whole link instead of just the red part.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2004, 01:57:04 AM »

Without sounding redundant, I at least have to concur with most of the points posted above, both negative and positive...The song has a simple enough melody to stay forged in one's brain for weeks.  The song will succeed within multiple formats and be a huge hit for the band, however, while I don't take everything at face value, I have to admit that the barrage of press articles which constantly compared the song to NR and SCOM definately had me lined up for some disappointment...Needless to say, through my own false assumptions, largely due to the tremendous amount of hype generated by the press about the song, I admit I was left feeling a bit underwhelmed...
I think I anticipated a 6+ min. epic, with full blown, self-indulgent orchestration, etc....Then again, that was always Axl's vision...
I actually downloaded the full show, but have promised myself to only listen to this 1 song...The quality is not nearly at an acceptable level by which I could reasonably assess the songs...It's not fair to VR, and it's not fair to a fan such as myself who is, and has been for months, awaiting the album so excitedly...Who knows?  Perhaps the studio version will have the 24 guitar overdubs with violin and cello I was anticipating...If not, decent song anyhow, just not what it was reported to resemble....I WILL PERSEVERE AND HOLD OUT UNTIL THE RELEASE!!  I really should stop deceiving myself so badly...the anticipation is killing me!!!  I WON'T LISTEN!!!  I CAN'T LISTEN!!


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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2004, 02:05:43 AM »

Perhaps the studio version will have the 24 guitar overdubs with violin and cello I was anticipating

Nope, Duff distinctly said that while he thought about putting in cello, they kept it simple.

I have yet to hear this song, and will refrain from doing so until the albums released (well...until May 28 in Philly).
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2004, 02:12:16 AM »

Good to see you Booker....I've recently returned to school and have found the albatross that is academia pretty overwhelming...been absent for a spell, but hopefully i can re-adjust and manage my time a bit more efficiently...I hope to be at least a bit more consistent round here....
I'm in full agreement with you...no more songs until I can hear them as intended on the 8th...I only hope I can hold out and avoid the inevitable leak first...
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