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« on: October 27, 2005, 06:24:58 PM »

I tried to come up with a reasonable track listing for a GNR "Greatest Hits II". This is a formidable task since all the hits are on volume 1. Let's have fun and fill up another disk with a projected song list for this rumored release. I think you have to put some "Live Era" on there to make this marketable. Here is what I would put out.

1. Nightrain
2. Out ta Get Me
3. My Michelle
4. Rocket Queen
5. Knockin on Heavens Door (Days of Thunder Version)
6. Mama Kin
7. Used to Love Her
8. Garden of Eden
9. Dead Horse
10. Coma
11. Pretty Tied Up
12. Estranged
13. Hair of the Dog
14. Welcome to the Jungle (Live)
15. It?s So Easy (Live)
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2005, 06:29:43 PM »

how many of these were hits?
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2005, 06:29:58 PM »

wttj
mr b
nightrain
scom
pc
patience
nov rain
coma
estranged
ycbm
civil war
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2005, 06:31:27 PM »

how many of these were hits?

None. But, if Universal is going to put out a "Greatest Hits II", they can't sell you a blank disc and an apology.

This is simply what I would put on a "Greatest Hits II" if I HAD to.

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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2005, 06:34:55 PM »

how many of these were hits?

None. But, if Universal is going to put out a "Greatest Hits II", they can't sell you a blank disc and an apology.

This is simply what I would put on a "Greatest Hits II" if I HAD to.

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Well, then they shouldn't release a "Greatest HITS vol 2" then, since they already have released all their hits back in 2004.. Rather call it Best Of.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2005, 06:46:42 PM »

who would buy the best of, though?
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2005, 06:51:24 PM »

who would buy the best of, though?

I don't know.. If it were up to me, I wouldn't have re-released anything of the old material (other than a live DVD)
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2005, 08:01:01 PM »

Well, guns n roses, doesnt have MORE greatest hits, than the recopilated in the first edition, they only have 4 studio album, damn! now if a GH 2 is going on sale,  its half of their own material, hehe...
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2005, 08:53:00 PM »

1- Coma
2- Nightrain
3- Pretty Tied Up
4- Welcome To The Jungle (live era)
5- Locomotive
6- Dead Horse
7- Move To The City
8- Garden Of Eden
9- My Michelle
10- Used To Love Her
11- Down On The Farm
12- Estranged
13- Rocket Queen
14- Bonus Track - Oh My God ok ok ok

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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2005, 09:05:06 PM »

(w/out including any songs from the first Greatest Hits.)

In no particular order.......

Don't Cry (Atl. lyrics ok)
Coma
Estranged
Rocket Queen
Dead Horse
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Right Next Door To Hell
Shotgun Blues
Back Off Bitch
Bad Apples
Don't Damn Me
14 Years
Breakdown
Down On The Farm


Bonus Tracks: Official studio versions of The Blues and Chinese Democracy. Cool yes ok

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2005, 10:06:01 PM »

They should make it the best of 2002 and it should have on it: Nightrain, Rocket Queen, My Michelle, OMG, The Blues, Rhiad, Chinese Democracy, Mr. Brownstone, Knocking On Heavens Door (This version was the best), Its So Easy, and Out Ta Get Me,
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2005, 10:16:19 PM »

(w/out including any songs from the first Greatest Hits.)

In no particular order.......

Don't Cry (Atl. lyrics ok)
Coma
Estranged
Rocket Queen
Dead Horse
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Right Next Door To Hell
Shotgun Blues
Back Off Bitch
Bad Apples
Don't Damn Me
14 Years
Breakdown
Down On The Farm


Bonus Tracks: Official studio versions of The Blues and Chinese Democracy. Cool yes ok

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here's my greatest hits II:

1)chinese democracy
2)this i love
3)I.R.S.
4)thyme
5)prostitute
6)the general
7)seven
8)madagscar
9)ides of march
10)catcher in the rye
11)leave me alone
12)the blues
13)closing in on you
14)there was a time (TWAT)

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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2005, 11:06:01 PM »

1-reckless life
2-it's so easy
3-nighttrain
4-mr. brownstone
5-my michelle
6-your crazy (acoustic)
7-garden of eden
8-DTJ
9-rocket queen
10-breakdown
11-locomotive
12-estranged
13-coma

       it's better than GH's 1.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2005, 11:23:09 PM »

1. Nightrain
2. Mr. Brownstone
3. Rocket Queen
4. It's So Easy
5. The Garden
6. Garden of Eden
7. Dead Horse
8. Pretty Tied Up
9. Estranged
10. So Fine
11. Don't Cry (alt)
12. Oh My God (maybe)

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2005, 01:04:46 AM »

IMO, these songs would definitely be included:

1 - Rocket Queen
2 - Mr. Brownstone
3 - It's So Easy
4 - Used to Love Her
5 - Civil War
6 - Estranged
7 - Since I Don't Have You
8 - Ain't It Fun

After that, who the hell knows. I would suggest:

8 - Breakdown
9 - Coma
10 - Garden of Eden
11 - Don't Damn Me
12 - Oh My God

It is possible that something interesting could be on there as well, like a studio version of The Blues or Madagascar, something unreleased like Crash Diet, or something live from Live Era.

Whatever. The idea of releasing this now is simply ridiculous.
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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2005, 08:46:04 AM »

i'd think if they put the official versions on the cd, it'd be over for any hopes of CD.

here's my greatest hits II:

1)chinese democracy
2)this i love
3)I.R.S.
4)thyme
5)prostitute
6)the general
7)seven
8)madagscar
9)ides of march
10)catcher in the rye
11)leave me alone
12)the blues
13)closing in on you
14)there was a time (TWAT)

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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2005, 09:33:10 AM »

well this thread really makes me believe that there`s no fuckin way to release a second greatest hits (without bonus tracks or new songs)

if it`s actually a greatest hits then there have to be some unreleased songs on it. i mean even on the first one they had sympathy for the devil on it.....
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2005, 09:38:31 AM »

well this thread really makes me believe that there`s no fuckin way to release a second greatest hits (without bonus tracks or new songs)

if it`s actually a greatest hits then there have to be some unreleased songs on it. i mean even on the first one they had sympathy for the devil on it.....

I had and still have the single. I bought it at music world when Interview with the Vampire came out ok

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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2005, 09:44:10 AM »

ok here goes

Nighttrain
Its So Easy
Sweet Child (Remix)
Your Crazy (Aucustic from WTTJ)
My Michelle
Shadow Of Your Love
KOHD (Days Of Thunder)
Civil War (Tokyo Live)
Dont Cry (alt Lyrics)
Dead Horse
Garden Of Eden
Pretty Tied Up
Estranged

Then The Killer to Make Every Fan Buy

Bonus Chinese Democracy Preview

Madagascar (Studio)
The Blues (Studio)
Chinese Democracy (Studio)

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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2005, 10:27:56 AM »

Nightrain
Its So Easy
Move To The City
Reckless Life
Mama Kin
Mr Brownstone
My Michelle
Rocket Queen
Estranged
Garden Of Eden
The Garden
Bad Obsession
So Fine
Double Talkin Jive
14 years
Youre Crazy(acoustic)
One In A Million
Used To Love Her
Coma
Dont Cry (alt)
Welcome To The Jungle(live)

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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2005, 10:32:53 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2005, 11:18:07 AM »

ridiculous! it's so pointless releasing a second GH. we need a new album
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2005, 04:39:32 PM »

Best Of, no covers:

1 New/unreleased song
2 WTTJ
3 It's so easy
4 Nightrain
5 Paradise City
6 SCOM
7 Rocket Queen
8 Patience
9 November Rain
10 Coma
11 Civil War
12 Estranged
13 YCBM
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2005, 04:44:49 PM »

slightly off topic but I think if GNR chose this tracklist for Illusion release..then wow...


Civil War
14 Yrs
Yesterdays
Dust n Bones
Breakdown
Double Talkin Jive
NR
The Garden
Dont Cry
Locomotive
Garden Of Eden
Dead Horse
You Could Be Mine
Estranged ---greatest song ever recorded
Coma

Would easily be one of the greatest albums of all time. And the main thing critics wouldnt be able to focus on the non popular songs from bnoth albums and the great songs would get its well deserved praise.

AFD and this album would rival any album ever made.
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2005, 04:51:27 PM »

I agree this shouldn't be released, but maybe a themed album, you know really sleazy like Back off Bitch, Bad Obsession, Rocket Queen, Cornchucker, Mr Brownstone, Whole lotta rosie (cover) etc
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2005, 04:59:16 PM »

If GH2 had a studio Cornchucker I'd buy it. I love that song...

But.. GH2... its still dumb.
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2005, 05:03:00 PM »

Nightrain
It's So Easy
Mr Brownstone
Rocket Queen
Used to Love Her
Dead Horse
Pretty Tied Up
Estranged
Hair of the Dog
Welcome To The Jungle (live)
Patience (live)
Paradise City (live)
Oh My God
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2005, 07:55:28 PM »

Rocket Queen
Nightrain
Locomotive
Estranged
Coma
It's so easy
Breakdown
Back off Bitch

The least the Best of better  ok
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2005, 08:09:08 PM »

ok here goes

Nighttrain
Its So Easy
Sweet Child (Remix)
Your Crazy (Aucustic from WTTJ)
My Michelle
Shadow Of Your Love
KOHD (Days Of Thunder)
Civil War (Tokyo Live)
Dont Cry (alt Lyrics)
Dead Horse
Garden Of Eden
Pretty Tied Up
Estranged

Then The Killer to Make Every Fan Buy

Bonus Chinese Democracy Preview

Madagascar (Studio)
The Blues (Studio)
Chinese Democracy (Studio)

I want it now

i never thought of that.  and you know what?  i think that's possible, too.
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2005, 09:23:46 PM »

Well considering that you cant have any songs relap. Roll Eyes

It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Nightrain
Rocket Queen
Used to Love Her
14 Years
Pretty Tied Up
Dead Horse
Garden of Eden
Estranged

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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2005, 09:24:24 PM »

They could put a live version of "Madagascar." It is already sorta a classic. It could be a hit. I mean, Paul McCartney's live vsersion on "Maybe I'm Amazed" was a hit, not the studio version.
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2005, 10:06:06 PM »

ridiculous! it's so pointless releasing a second GH. we need a new album


I agree Sakib, but everybody is dreaming with a GH2 that have songs that are already in studio albums...
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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2005, 11:52:15 AM »

-one in a million
-used to love her
-its so easy
-nightrain
-estranged
-bad obsession
-my michelle
-madagascar
-chinese democracy
-oh my god
-crash diet
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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2005, 12:28:30 PM »

I doubt they'd put OIAM on there.
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« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2005, 01:17:59 PM »

I believe that when this album is released, it'll look something like this:


It's So Easy
Nightrain
Mr. Brownstone
Rocket Queen
The Garden
Garden Of Eden
Dead Horse
Coma
14 Years
So Fine
Estranged
Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics)
New Rose
Hair Of The Dog
Shadow Of Your Love (a track most casual fans don't have, like Sympathy For The Devil)

Now, the big question is, what to put on volumes 3 and 4.....  hihi




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« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2005, 02:28:23 PM »

I know it's unlikely, but anyways...

1 - ISE
2 - Mr.B
3 - Rocket Queen!! headbanger
4 - Mama Kin
5 - Used To Love Her
6 - The Garden
7 - Coma
8 - Estranged
9 - Dead Horse
10 - New Rose
11 - Raw Power

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1 - Oh My God
2 - Madagascar
3 - The Blues
4 - Rhyiad & The Bedouins headbanger
5 - Silkworms
6 - IRS

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1 - Madagascar (live in Docklands)
2 - The Blues (live in MSG)
3 - Rhyiad (live in HOB 2001)
4 - Silkworms (live in Vegas 2001)
5 - Sweet Child O' Mine (live in MSG)
6 - OMG (live in RIR3)
7 - Preview of Chinese Democracy with making of and little clips of new songs


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« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2005, 02:52:45 PM »

its not fair - its gonna be a load of crap, ill already have all the songs, but ill still have to buy it so i can say i own all their albums. those geffen bastards.
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« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2005, 04:49:50 PM »

I doubt they'd put OIAM on there.

i agree but its one of my favourites? ? Grin
its not fair - its gonna be a load of crap, ill already have all the songs, but ill still have to buy it so i can say i own all their albums. those geffen bastards.

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« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2005, 04:54:41 PM »

its not fair - its gonna be a load of crap, ill already have all the songs, but ill still have to buy it so i can say i own all their albums. those geffen bastards.

You could argue its not really 'theirs' if they don't authorise it!
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« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2005, 05:43:44 PM »

I wouldn't be surprised to see one new tune on this. I mean, Greatest Hits does a good job of covering the recorded history of GnR in one disc, and I don't know how a second one could be anything but a cheap cash in that really isn't necessary. Think about it, for what you would pay for both Greatest Hits you could have Appetite and one of the Illusions albums and get way more good music for the same price. Hell, a lot of older albums usually end up going for less than what a current cd costs so you might just be able to get Appetite and both Illusions for the same price.

But...

Throw in a new song like Madagascar and you have a means to increase purchase intent. Record companies are sleazy and will bend people over for the cost of entire cd in order for them to get at a new song. If they are going to include any sort of 'teaser' for Chinese Democracy I would bet money on it being one song, most likely something played on the tour (Madagascar, the Blues, Chinese Democracy, or Rhiyad).
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« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2005, 06:26:59 PM »

I wouldn't be surprised to see one new tune on this. I mean, Greatest Hits does a good job of covering the recorded history of GnR in one disc, and I don't know how a second one could be anything but a cheap cash in that really isn't necessary. Think about it, for what you would pay for both Greatest Hits you could have Appetite and one of the Illusions albums and get way more good music for the same price. Hell, a lot of older albums usually end up going for less than what a current cd costs so you might just be able to get Appetite and both Illusions for the same price.

But...

Throw in a new song like Madagascar and you have a means to increase purchase intent. Record companies are sleazy and will bend people over for the cost of entire cd in order for them to get at a new song. If they are going to include any sort of 'teaser' for Chinese Democracy I would bet money on it being one song, most likely something played on the tour (Madagascar, the Blues, Chinese Democracy, or Rhiyad).

I can't see Axl going for that.
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« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2005, 06:30:00 PM »

I would love to see a few live bonus tracks if possible.. Anyhow for some reason I doubt they would have a second gh's being they already had one.. Two new gh's without one new effort??

I don't really feel like making a list because I already own all these songs.. Definetly some SI in there too and omg to add something newer././
I wouldn't mind a gh with a second b sides type album with the best of the newer songs live to actually hype cd..
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« Reply #42 on: October 29, 2005, 06:41:54 PM »

I'm sure Axl wants to distance himself from the old band more than ever. Its not such a bad idea to promote Chinese Democracy, but thats nothing a decent single couldn't do.
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« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2005, 08:06:24 PM »

I'm sure Axl wants to distance himself from the old band more than ever. Its not such a bad idea to promote Chinese Democracy, but thats nothing a decent single couldn't do.

the best way to distance himself would be to use another name, but that's a whole other topic hihi

I think another gh's is plain stupid ....
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« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2005, 08:24:30 AM »

it might be a little off topic, but can someone explain to me this supposed deal with sanctuary reecords, because people are talking about putting new songs on there and stuff - does sanctuary actually own the rights to anything?
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« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2005, 01:40:22 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2005, 01:55:36 PM »

According to www.gnr.nu, it says geffen as officially announced GH2 for december 6th.  Any credibility there?
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« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2005, 02:12:14 PM »

There's nothing on geffen official website. Altought some sites are saying Geffen "officially announced GH2", the only source is a label's employee (outside USA). Tongue
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« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2005, 09:56:00 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: October 31, 2005, 04:10:36 AM »

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« Reply #50 on: October 31, 2005, 05:06:42 AM »

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Out to get me
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« Reply #51 on: October 31, 2005, 09:15:37 PM »

now that i think about it....i would be more then happy if this thing comes out IF it has Oh My God in it or atleast one new song!!
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« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2005, 09:24:18 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2005, 11:14:58 PM »

think about it...all they have to do is toss on ONE new song and people will buy this fucking thing like crazy.

I own all of the albums but I would still go out and buy it.

however, if they don't add a new song or at least something special...it won't touch the success of GH#1. (simply because while I love most of GNR's "B" songs, people buy greatest hits CDs for the songs they know, not the relatively obscure ones).

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« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2005, 12:17:42 AM »

Great point, pat. Another hits album will flop. There's already one with their real hits, and obscurity doesn't sell albums. REM is a good example. They did a hits album awhile back, and it was horrible. It had a couple hits and a bunch of obscure shit. It sold poorly. If they had did like GNR with the first hits album, it would have sold pretty good. If GNR hits 2 doesn't have some new stuff, they should just flush it down the toilet.
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« Reply #55 on: November 02, 2005, 01:15:17 AM »

my greatest hits?
Fuck it's the same track list of the first one smoking
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« Reply #56 on: November 02, 2005, 01:47:16 AM »

Another Greatest Hits album.. Ahh.. Please don't..
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« Reply #57 on: November 02, 2005, 06:45:42 AM »

I dont know what's on the GH as I didnt buy it due to already owning every album, but here is my greatest GNR:

Estranged
Sweet Child O Mine
Welcome to the Jungle
Paradise City
November Rain
Knockin on Heavens Door
Yesterdays
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Dont Cry
My Michelle
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« Reply #58 on: November 02, 2005, 12:18:04 PM »

Just heard right now on 98 Rock in Baltimore that a second Gun n' Roses Greatest Hits Package will be released in March.  I'm curious to knwo what was meant by package? Why not just say another GH cd?
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« Reply #59 on: November 02, 2005, 06:53:28 PM »

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« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2005, 09:08:08 PM »

no sweet child o mine? paradise city?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?drool

man they already appeared in the GH 1
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« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2006, 03:34:32 PM »

All the big hitters were on GH1, surely? What's left? Nightrain... Don't Cry (Alt. Lyrics), and, er, that's about it really...

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« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2006, 03:44:54 PM »

There's been a thread like this before, but I think a GH's II could actually be a stronger overall record if they did it right.

Reckless Life
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Nightrain
Mr. Brownstone
My Michelle
Rocket Queen
Used to Love Her
You're Crazy
OIAM - if they felt like getting some free pub for the disc
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coma
DTJ
Garden of Eden

IMO, that disc is MUCH better overall than GH's I. I assume we would see The Garden & Dead Horse on it though, if it were to happen.
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« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2006, 11:09:31 PM »

1. rocket queen
2. the garden
3. mr. brownstone
4. dont damn me
5. right next door to hell
6. estranged
7. double talkin jive
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9. the garden of eden
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12. mama kin
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14. move to the city
15. coma
16. my world
17. 14 years
18. dust and bones
19. used to love her
20. locamotive
21. reckless life
22. your crazy
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« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2006, 11:24:47 PM »

I assume we would see The Garden on it
I would certainly hope so. The Garden is a semi-obscure song from Illusions, and it never got the attention/respect that it deserves. They released it as a single/video towards the end of the Illusion era, but nobody in the world cared because the grunge movement was in overdrive. Its a highlight of UYI I, and I think it would have been a huge hit had it been the 2nd single released from Illusions. I have an uncle that isn't even a GNR fan, but he absolutely loves this song.
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« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2006, 01:01:18 AM »

I assume we would see The Garden on it
I would certainly hope so. The Garden is a semi-obscure song from Illusions, and it never got the attention/respect that it deserves. They released it as a single/video towards the end of the Illusion era, but nobody in the world cared because the grunge movement was in overdrive. Its a highlight of UYI I, and I think it would have been a huge hit had it been the 2nd single released from Illusions. I have an uncle that isn't even a GNR fan, but he absolutely loves this song.




I like the music & video just fine, but the Alice Cooper part has always ruined it for me. I suppose 'The Garden' is a perfect little snapshot of the UYI's for me. Some really cool ideas somewhat muddied by some not so cool ideas.
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« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2006, 04:00:38 AM »

I assume we would see The Garden on it
I would certainly hope so. The Garden is a semi-obscure song from Illusions, and it never got the attention/respect that it deserves. They released it as a single/video towards the end of the Illusion era, but nobody in the world cared because the grunge movement was in overdrive. Its a highlight of UYI I, and I think it would have been a huge hit had it been the 2nd single released from Illusions. I have an uncle that isn't even a GNR fan, but he absolutely loves this song.




I like the music & video just fine, but the Alice Cooper part has always ruined it for me. I suppose 'The Garden' is a perfect little snapshot of the UYI's for me. Some really cool ideas somewhat muddied by some not so cool ideas.
Yeah, I know what you mean. The Cooper part isn't my fave either, but I do love the song. Cool lyrics, and has some of the best music from the Illusions albums. In alot of the old reviews of Illusions, there isn't hardly any mention of this song. Its like they just skipped the song while listening. If I had to pick one song for Axl to remake, it would be this one. I would also like to hear an unpolished version of this song. Slash should open up his vault.
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