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« on: March 31, 2004, 08:54:25 AM »

i'm big fan of old band,and slash!
slash was my teen idol!
but when i listened buckethead solo on madagascar,and  some old songs(nighttrain,wttj...),i saw that bucket gave some other dimension in gnr and axl's music.Noone can't do his solo in madagascar,which gave this song something so hard,and amazing.
for me this guy is little genious and was the heart of new band

for me only posible thing is reunion of old band
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2004, 09:05:05 AM »

W. Axl Rose is the heart of the band....

Brian Carroll is a guitar player...
He can and will be replaced....
He is a paycheck, a contract, and hardly the heart of the band...
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2004, 09:08:04 AM »

Axl AND BH were the newGNR for me. now the first one accused the second one of being an asshole. of course cn Brian Caroll be replaced but is this really what GNR needs?
again a very good band has parted....
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2004, 09:10:25 AM »

The real heart of the new gnr is axl, dizzy, robin and tommy since they have been there since day one of axls rebuilt Gnr.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2004, 09:17:28 AM »

 Buckethead was a huge loss.... but then again so was Izzy, Slash, and Duff.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2004, 09:48:55 AM »

BucketHead's a fucking idiot and he always will be. yes ok rant beer
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2004, 09:51:58 AM »

The real heart of the new gnr is axl, dizzy, robin and tommy since they have been there since day one of axls rebuilt Gnr.


i agree with that, even though buckethead's departure was sad.
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2004, 09:54:19 AM »

I don't think you can really know if he WAS a major contributor until we find out if he was responsible for writing new material and/or really dictating the new sound in the studio. There's about 2 dozen threads on BH now, and they all go around the same circle.
It seems that those who have a picture of BH as their avatar defend him, and everyone else disses him.
My opinion is the same as many. He was a hired gun. Not a vital factor to the band in my eyes, but I wish him the best.
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2004, 10:03:04 AM »

The real heart of the new gnr is axl, dizzy, robin and tommy since they have been there since day one of axls rebuilt Gnr.

don't get me started

Robin  love love love   ahhh drool
Tommy  love love love  drool

like i've said before the BH fiasco is all kinds of fucked up...
but if it were Robin or Tommy at this point I'd still be   crying  crying  crying

Robin!!!!!!    wooo hooo!  can't wait to see him live again
Tommy!!!!   fuck yeah.  

and Fortus is just  drool on the guitar
I'm thinking he is going to do a lot more in GN'R now that BH is out.
Looking forward to that..

Give 'em hell GN'R!
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2004, 10:13:20 AM »

Buckethead a heart of new GNR? U must be kiddin' Cheesy he plays with no emotions - like robot!!!  Sad At least Robin, Tommy and Fortus fit in GNR...
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2004, 11:34:32 AM »

Noone can't do his solo in madagascar

 hihi you said it...

noone can play the solos like BH, cuz he has his own style, but robin or richard can come up with something cool to it, im sure  ok
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2004, 11:56:08 AM »

The real heart of the new gnr is axl, dizzy, robin and tommy since they have been there since day one of axls rebuilt Gnr.

well said.


hmm..buckethead was heart of new GNR..I don't see it that way. I think that "Heart" consist of loyalty,

putting the best that one got and respect. I can't see that Buckethead had any of these. I really think

that Buckethead should give his own view about this mess, otherwise he is going to be even more

defendant than he is now. But I guess, the hiding man knows what he is doing or he is just unarmed with

this thing, and if so, that should give all the answers to the questions that have been wondering us.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2004, 12:02:08 PM »

Bucket, the heart of GNR?!! WTF ...

The guy just used GNR, became more famous, and now he can release his solo stuff with greater chances of success... and after that u keep sucking his balls, oh my god

For me now bucket just don?t exist anymore, fuckin bastart... he is not the heart of gnr, he is a DESEASE !!

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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2004, 12:13:10 PM »

None of these guys are the heart of Guns N' Roses. They are all hired musicians, who can all be replaced. The problem is the hired musicians are incapable of filling the previous lineups shoes (granted the are all great musicians). If this past weeks events have shown anyhing, it is that there is a love for the old Guns N' Roses...........the album sales of GH do not point to a love of Axl or of the future of the new band..........it points to how significant the old band was. In the long run I will support anything Axl does (barring murder or child rape) but the only way I see the name Guns N' Roses returning to the top of Rock is to get the 'Other" heart of Guns N Roses back.....unfortunately they currently play under the name Velvet Revolver.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2004, 01:37:41 PM »

Randy Rhoads was the heart of Ozzy's solo career, but Ozzy was forced to move on...  Brad Gillis, Jake E. Lee, Zakk Wylde, etc., they are all good guitarists who learned the earlier material.  But they have their own sound, as well.

Axl will find another guitarist.  He will have his own style, but will still be able to learn the solo to Nightrain, like thousands of teenage guitarists did when the tablature came out. Buckethead is replaceable, so let that bandwagon move on.

On a side note, although I'm not a big fan, Limp Bizkit had their album in the can when Fred found a new guitarist, wrote all new material, and pumped out the album in a year.  And, I guess from what my friend told me, he put out songs with the previous guitarist (not Wes) as b-sides to the singles. Wonder if Axl could do that!  drool
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2004, 02:26:55 PM »

W. Axl Rose is the heart of the band....

Brian Carroll is a guitar player...
He can and will be replaced....
He is a paycheck, a contract, and hardly the heart of the band...

I totally agree with what you said, he is not the heart of the band, not even a sliver of it.  
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2004, 02:48:08 PM »

None of these guys are the heart of Guns N' Roses. They are all hired musicians, who can all be replaced. The problem is the hired musicians are incapable of filling the previous lineups shoes (granted the are all great musicians). If this past weeks events have shown anyhing, it is that there is a love for the old Guns N' Roses...........the album sales of GH do not point to a love of Axl or of the future of the new band..........it points to how significant the old band was. In the long run I will support anything Axl does (barring murder or child rape) but the only way I see the name Guns N' Roses returning to the top of Rock is to get the 'Other" heart of Guns N Roses back.....unfortunately they currently play under the name Velvet Revolver.

Great post.

I know that Axl can do this with out the old members, but he should let the name (GN'R) go, it would be right thing to do. That's the only truth...but meanwhile I love too much of the name GN'R that I will want to see it in the bright lights again..I don't know.....I wish the things would be just like they were back in the golden times.
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2004, 03:18:21 PM »

GNR existed before Bhead..they will exist without him....as long as Finck isn't on lead...... nervous
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2004, 03:31:41 PM »

Nah. GNR stock hasn't gone up or down, left or right. It's the same as it was 12 years ago: Axl's project.
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2004, 03:46:45 PM »

I don't know if Buckethead was the heart, but I'm 200% sure that Brian Mantia is the Brain.
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2004, 03:58:40 PM »

Buckethead was brought in when Robin left. Robin was Axl's initial choice and he is still there, so I think they are gonna be fine. Fortus is equally as capable. Hell, Buckethead didn't really have that big of a role in the shows that I saw, except for his solos. I don't think that he was in any way the heart of the new Guns.

I wondered how long he would last. I think Finck is a better fit anyway, although I did like Bucketheads playing, I think that Guns will survive without him.

Axl is trying to make these guys into Guns N' Roses. He wants it to be a band, and it seems to working for the most part, seeing as no one has left except Bucket. I think if any one signed up not thinking it would be a long haul,especially some of the newer guys, then they were crazy. confused
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2004, 04:57:35 PM »

You guys are so pathetic, i made a post a while ago that if Buckethead was not in GNR then nobody here would know or even give a shit about him, well it looks like i was right.

I bet some of you still think CD is coming out as well. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2004, 02:32:49 AM »

I LIKE SLASH MORE AND MORE THAN BHEAD,>
axl is the gunsnroses,but bhead is the heart of newband
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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2004, 03:37:04 AM »

I think Buckethead is an amazing talent, and for that it's a shame he's gone.

But, I think the people here who are really upset about him leaving are refusing to admit the truth, which is that newGNR is Robin's band first. Axl is the heart. It's Axl's band and Axl's project, but Robin is the lead guitarist. Buckethead was brought in when Robin left, and I bet when Robin came back there was no talk about not welcoming him. Since Bucket was already on board, GNR ended up with 'two lead guitarists,' which was cool, but let's face it, we've all seen them play live, one of those two leads played a lot more. Robin.
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