American Floyd Landis Wins 2006 Le Tour de France

[Drew]

Typical.  Justin Gatlin, Floyd Landis, and anyone coached by Trevor Graham all getting nailed in a week's time.

Way to represent your country, idiots.

It's not so simple nor only one country this is happening in. Many other countries are "representing" under the radar for now. The world is full of idiots.

[Mal Brossard]

Oh I know.  But still, way to go guys.  Not only are you drugging yourselves up, but you're also getting caught doing it.  Under the radar doping: immoral and illegal.  Getting caught doping: immoral, illegal, AND stupid.

[DeN]

The French are just pissed at Lance because it's a French race and Americans are better than they are at it.

ahah.

no, we just don't like cheaters. Landis is, and Lance was.

he was just more lucky.

read the specialists comments about the *surhuman* efforts in the tour de france.
no one can develop this power, or maybe Hulk or Superman. 

[Drew]

no, we just don't like cheaters. Landis is, and Lance was.

he was just more lucky.

read the specialists comments about the *surhuman* efforts in the tour de france.
no one can develop this power, or maybe Hulk or Superman. 

So by that comment, you are saying that everyone cheats in the Tour de France? Whether they get caught or not? Cause if Landis got caught and Lance did cheat then I guess everyone else is cheating too. There are no clean riders, right?

[Communist China]

The French are just pissed at Lance because it's a French race and Americans are better than they are at it.

ahah.

no, we just don't like cheaters. Landis is, and Lance was.

he was just more lucky.

read the specialists comments about the *surhuman* efforts in the tour de france.
no one can develop this power, or maybe Hulk or Superman.?

Cheaters get caught. If Lance was doping for 6-7 years, someone other than small French organizations would've noticed. Landis may have cheated, but insulting Lance is downright wrong. What made him so amazing was his experiences battling cancer, which gave him focus and determination. Plus he only had one ball. Maybe that helps.

[Mal Brossard]

Plus he only had one ball. Maybe that helps.

Well, racing IS all about aerodynamics.

[oldgunsfan]

Plus he only had one ball. Maybe that helps.

Well, racing IS all about aerodynamics.

That and a little synthetic help never hurt

[Communist China]

Plus he only had one ball. Maybe that helps.

Well, racing IS all about aerodynamics.

That and a little synthetic help never hurt

When you've only got one ball you don't need steroids.

[Drew]

Okay guys, let's not start to derail this thread and turn it into a waste please.

[DeN]

So by that comment, you are saying that everyone cheats in the Tour de France? Whether they get caught or not? Cause if Landis got caught and Lance did cheat then I guess everyone else is cheating too. There are no clean riders, right?

yes, but the clean ones didn't registered surhuman efforts and are not in the top of the tour.

that's just *logical*

but YES, there's a lot of cheaters. the fact is : without cheating, you just can't win the tour de france, that's the fact.
or you are a genetic mutant. 

[DeN]

Cheaters get caught. If Lance was doping for 6-7 years, someone other than small French organizations would've noticed. Landis may have cheated, but insulting Lance is downright wrong. What made him so amazing was his experiences battling cancer, which gave him focus and determination. Plus he only had one ball. Maybe that helps.

of course not. there's just some of them who get caught.
cheaters still have some advance in technologies so you can't detect products.
but yes after some years "small French organizations" controled him positive. 
so....

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Watch The Tonight Show with Jay Leno tonight, Landis is going to be on the program.

[Drew]

the fact is : without cheating, you just can't win the tour de france, that's the fact.

I just can't see how you can prove a statement like yours as fact. How are you absolutely sure or prove the race cannot be won without cheating/drugs?

[DeN]

because specialists who registered efforts between the tour can say
without any doubt it's impossible for a human being to do that.

if you compare landis efforts with other people, you just find the same
performances with guys who took EPO in the 90s.

[Drew]

Some breaking news concerning Floyd Landis today.......

Report: Lab in Landis case made 'administrative error' on 'B' sample

November 15, 2006

PARIS (AP) -- The French anti-doping lab that tested American cyclist Floyd Landis' urine samples made an "administrative error" when reporting its findings on his backup "B" sample, the French newspaper Le Monde reported Wednesday.

The newspaper cited unnamed sources as saying the Chatenay-Malabry laboratory gave the wrong number in its report about Landis' second sample. Tests on the rider's two samples indicated that Landis had elevated levels of testosterone in his system when he won the Tour de France in July.

In its report, the lab wrote that the "B" sample tested was number 994,474, while the actual number was 995,474, Le Monde said.

"The error, of an administrative nature, does not mean the positive B sample was not that of the American," Le Monde said. "But it is being used today by his lawyers ... to contest his positive doping results."

The lab referred questions to the French anti-doping agency, when contacted Wednesday by The Associated Press. Its secretary general, Philippe Dautry, said the agency had no official comment and that it was not for him to say whether an error had occurred with the sample's number. He said the agency would respond when Landis' case is heard.

Landis' attorney, Howard Jacobs, has already alleged that the French lab made repeated errors in its analyses, including mismatched sample code numbers.

In a letter sent to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency in September, Jacobs said the positive finding on the "B" sample came from a sample number not assigned to Landis.

"It's incredibly sloppy," Jacobs said at the time. "It has to make you wonder about the accuracy of the work."

On Sunday, Landis said in a French television interview that the lab made crucial errors in his tests.

"Even the best people make mistakes," he said. "I can't say that the lab is always a bad lab, but I can say that in this case it made some mistakes ... I did not take testosterone."

Le Monde's report came a day after French authorities said they are investigating a complaint that hackers stole data from computers at the same lab in an attempt to discredit the lab's credibility.

Tour de France organizers no longer consider Landis the Tour champion. He will contest the test results at an arbitration hearing in the United States. If found guilty of doping, he would be formally stripped of the title and face a two-year ban.

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news;_ylt=AhvkinaICY3XJVcY.UQ4UnZ.grcF?slug=ap-frenchdoping-laberror&prov=ap&type=lgns

[D]

Landis should sue for millions of dollars,this error cost him his career and robbed him of an amazing accomplishment.

[Grouse]

Landis should sue for millions of dollars,this error cost him his career and robbed him of an amazing accomplishment.

firstly the test still shows him as being positive and secondly he has no right to claim millions of dollars because a) cyclists don't earn anywhere near that amount, b) The courts don't work like that here in europe (thank god).....

[Drew]

Landis should sue for millions of dollars,this error cost him his career and robbed him of an amazing accomplishment.

firstly the test still shows him as being positive and secondly he has no right to claim millions of dollars because a) cyclists don't earn anywhere near that amount, b) The courts don't work like that here in europe (thank god).....

With sponsors, they certainly make millions of dollars easily.

[D]

They linked the wrong test with him though, So someone elses dirty test got mistaken for Landis' test.

His reputation and career are finished thanks to incompetence and they should have to pay for what they've done to his career.

[Slashead]

Landis was doped. I don't see why they should pay him anything.