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« Reply #80 on: February 11, 2009, 08:47:27 PM »

one thing is certain...A-Rod never used "performance enhancers"...

in October.  hihi

Well if he did he needs to find something better cause it sure hasn't helped him yet.  rofl
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« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2009, 06:37:04 AM »

There are ways to prove you didn't do steroids.  If no positive test exists and there's not overwhelming evidence and testimony against someone than they'd have a right to defend themselves.  Again, it's another question as to whether people will believe them, and I'm sure more than a few wouldn't.  I agree, it is a problem, but it's not going away.  Baseball brought this on themselves.

They hypothetical is:

They're on "the list of names".

They ARE the "error rate"....ie:  They are one of the 5% of expected false positives.

Their name is released.

Now what?

You seem to be saying "They're fucked, there's nothing they can do".

I think that's a problem.  A rather large one.  Especially given people are calling for those names to be released.  Because I actually agree with you:  There's not much of a way to defend themselves, given the current climate (admittedly, brought on by MLB itself) surrounding baseball.

But you can't blame the CLEAN guy for that.  I have a hard time saying "Too fucking bad" to the guy who DIDN'T cheat and tests positive (and I don't know who that might be...only that statistically they exist) , because of the cheats.  Don't you?

Again, my fear is that this becomes a witch hunt......righteous indignation and anger I'm perfectly OK with.  Zealotry, though?  Not so much....
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« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2009, 11:26:30 AM »

ordered this at Barnes & Noble last week for pick-up in store, said it would take approx. 2-3 days. having to pass the time reading 'Beyond Belief' by Josh Hamilton. not a bad book..
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