slash or buckethead ? why

[slashman91]

personaly I choose slash beacuse he has more talentand knows alot of the clasic gnr song's im sure buckethead will get there .

[Dizzy]

I say Slash because I've always favored emotion and creativity over technique.  Buckethead is a great technical player, no doubt.  But he can't make you feel what he's playing like Slash can.

When Slash throws back his head and pours his emotion into the guitar, one cannot help but close their eyes and feel the music as well as hear it.  

[John Daniels]

I say Slash because I've always favored emotion and creativity over technique.  Buckethead is a great technical player, no doubt.  But he can't make you feel what he's playing like Slash can.

yes, I agree 100 %.

But all the credit to Bucketheaqd also, he's a great player, fast and talented as a hell....but Slash has it something with his playing, it's something that brings in my mind old good Jimi Hendrix..

[IHaveNoPatience]

Slash is better by far...Buckethead is a good guitarist, but Slash's stage-performance is WOW!

[rocktar81]

Slash by far. he is 1 million times better. can't explain that. His influence has been ENORMOUS for the last 15 years.  Slash is a legend. the way he plays guitar is a revolution. Please Axl, make a call to SLASH! HE IS THE BEST.

[Rebecca Duff Rose]

S-L-A-S-H!
Why?
Exactly the same as Dizzy said!  

He nearly makes me cry when i see him play that Les Paul in the desert of Nov. rain vid!  
Estranged!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!
The brilliance of SCOM!      
Slash was first, he invented those breath-taking rifts!

Hard-ass Paradise City! Rock on!
Rocket Queen, WTTJ, Coma!!!!!! Need any more explanation!
Even Gonzo on MTV2 said the greatest rift intro thingy guitar thingy would DEFINATELY be SLASH! {SCOM}  

SLASH IS A GOD!

He is a huge influence but then again he also puts you off from playing guitar because you can't make up with his sheer brilliance!

On the Illusions DVD's the energy he has on stage is electrifying!!!!!!  
And also he can hold his drink! He's funny, COOL and hes majorly important!

I haven't heard BucketHead properly, but I will do soon!
I'm sure he'll be great! Positive in fact!  
Bring on the Bucket!

[Slipdisc]

edit: (Yes all of the above 'planes' have permission to land...)

If idiots could fly, this (thread) would be an airport.

-PEACE-  

[SlashFan]

Slash is better by far...Buckethead is a good guitarist, but Slash's stage-performance is WOW!

 

Slash is the only god!!

[Slipdisc]

Roger that "Slash Rose", you have permission to takeoff!

-PEACE-

[Captain P?l]

Slash by far. he is 1 million times better. can't explain that. His influence has been ENORMOUS for the last 15 years.  Slash is a legend. the way he plays guitar is a revolution. Please Axl, make a call to SLASH! HE IS THE BEST.

so you are judging who is the best guitar by who has the most energy outlet onstage?


but, we all (well, some are in denial) that Buckethead is far more talented than Slash. I prefer slash so far myself. but how do you explain to someone that one's only arument are : Slash is better. he plays the old GNR songs, that makes him better.

are there anyway to convice this weird, ?tterly weird people? i tried it all, but they wont even listen to the guys work...


my point: its OK to say you like slash better, but saying he is the most technicalled skilled and best guitarist in the whole wild world is kinda dumb... we all know damn well ?ystein Sunde is the best guitarist! he was voted the best guitarist by the best voted guitarist Steve Vai!  

[Slipdisc]

we all know damn well ?ystein Sunde is the best guitarist! he was voted the best guitarist by the best voted guitarist Steve Vai!

I don't know what's wrong with them....

But Vai shouldn't be calling people the best guitarplayer, both Lane (rip) and Buckethead have kicked his ass in the past, and he knows it.

-PEACE-

[EVH]

steve vai is ok hes not the greatest so who gives a shit what he says, i never even heard of that oyster guy ur talkin about, anyways slash is better than buckethead..

[Slipdisc]

steve vai is ok hes not the greatest so who gives a shit what he says, i never even heard of that oyster guy ur talkin about, anyways slash is better than buckethead..

You too have permission to takeoff....

-PEACE-

PS:Steve Vai is (waaaay) better then Slash and Buckethead is better then Vai....it's very simple.... Slash is a great performer, but no virtuoso.

[rocktar81]

I don't really care of pure technic. I find it pretty boring at least.However I care about FEELING
Rock n' Roll is feeling. that's what it has always been and will always be. That's why Slash kicks Buckethead's ass by far.

[Dizzy]

I don't really care of pure technic. I find it pretty boring at least.However I care about FEELING
Rock n' Roll is feeling. that's what it has always been and will always be. That's why Slash kicks Buckethead's ass by far.

Exactly.  Yeah, Buckethead is a better technician, but so what, so is every damn guitar teacher on the planet.  Bottom line is, nobody will remember anything Buckethead did after a few years.  But the riffs of "Sweet Child o Mine" and "Estranged" will remain etched in our collective ears and haunt our collective souls for all eternity.

That's what makes a guitar player great.  When Buckethead writes and records such timeless classic riffs which surpass those of Slash, then we'll talk.  Until then, the top hat defeats the KFC bucket by a longshot.

[Captain P?l]

exuce me dizzy.... Estranged is a sweet ass tune... and it WILL remain in OUR ears... but not the non-hard core GNR fans ear... its not even on Greatest Hits... seems like the public eye is stepping away from that song... weird...

but saying buckethead cant make a classic riff is stupid, wait 'til we hear GNR.... and he got some shit that should have have been classic, though. but his work aint getting media cover... that is why.

media coverage is making guitarist such as Cobain and linkin park fuckheads guitar god's and burn it into our memory forever, wheter we like it or not..

[matt88]

Slash by far buckethead, Buckethead is in no class as Slash, Slash is with eric clapton, Hendrix, Jimmy page etc, he's had the most impact on guitar players over the last 20 yrs.

Also i think someone said that he can play very fast, playing fast don't mean shit my friend who doesnt play guitar can pull of a few pulloffs in succesion. And why do ppl say lets wait for the new album before critisizing him, if he was half good, all his solo albums or whatever he has done in the past would b well known and the fact is they arent so at the moment Slash has and will always have the goods

                          SLASH UR A FUCKIN LEGEND

[Slipdisc]

Slash by far buckethead, Buckethead is in no class as Slash, Slash is with eric clapton, Hendrix, Jimmy page etc, he's had the most impact on guitar players over the last 20 yrs.

You can?t put Slash in the same league as Hendrix. Slash never revolutionized the sound of the electric guitar like Hendrix did? Buckethead however did. That?s why Hendrix?s bass player said that Buckethead was one of the few big enough to stand in Hendrix?s shoes. Get a clue?. How can you compare a player like Slash who made living of doing only things others already had done before him with one of the greatest pioneers ever.

Compare this:

And why do ppl say lets wait for the new album before critisizing him, if he was half good, all his solo albums or whatever he has done in the past would b well known

to this other comment of yours:

No not really i'll fully judge 4 myself when or if the album comes out

??.Get your act together you make no sense, is your opinion always this flexible?

if he was half good, all his solo albums or whatever he has done in the past would b well known and the fact is they arent

His album are wellknown. He?s is one the biggest artist in instrumental music, numerous guitarmagazines and other virtuoso?s have given him tons of credits for them. But that?s right don?t let education stand in the way of your ignorance.

If Slash would be half as good as some of you wish he would be he would have made some good music after his departure from GNR (as a solo performer), since none of this exists it?s like comparing dirt to gold when compared to Buckethead (he has made it on his own, where Slash only got smaller once he was alone? desperately in search of some talent to play with, again).

Buckethead has proven to be both great in bands as solo, let Slash try to accomplish this, then come again...

-PEACE-

[Slipdisc]

I care about FEELING
Rock n' Roll is feeling. that's what it has always been and will always be. That's why Slash kicks Buckethead's ass by far.

LOL!! Get a clue man. Let Slash come with soloalbums with the emotional depth and feelings like Colma and Electric Tears.

That's what makes a guitar player great.  When Buckethead writes and records such timeless classic riffs which surpass those of Slash, then we'll talk.  Until then, the top hat defeats the KFC bucket by a longshot.

Let Slash come with a freakin soloalbum on which he shows that he as a guitarplayer can write music of the same quality of Buckethead?s soloalbums, then we?ll talk. Until then, he only lives of some glorious moments in the past where he got big by living of of other people?s talent. Izzy was by far better then Slash. Buckethead is eons ahead of Slash and his thirteen in a dozen pentatonic noodling?.

The only place in the world where Slash is regarded a killer-ass guitarplayer are the GNRboards. The rest of the world knows that it takes more to being great then camouflaging bad skills with clich? showmanship?.

-PEACE-

[Dizzy]

The only place in the world where Slash is regarded a killer-ass guitarplayer are the GNRboards. The rest of the world knows that it takes more to being great then camouflaging bad skills with clich? showmanship?.

When did you change your name to "the rest of the world"?

Oh yes, the only reason anyone remembers the riffs for "Welcome to the Jungle" or "Sweet Child o Mine" is because of Slash's showmanship.   The top hat fooled us all into thinking those songs were good.  

Christ, it's fucking hilarious how ass backwards you are.  Take a general consensus of rock n roll fans outside of this board.  They'll all tell you how great Slash is.  And they'll tell you they don't even know who the fuck Buckethead is.

Buckethead shreds, shreds, shreds.  That's it.  Like I said, any guitar teacher can do that.  The only thing Buckethead does differently is don a ridiculous bucket on his head.  Not one classic song at all.  Not one that's ever going to be remembered.  Name one of his songs known by the vast majority of rock fans.  Just one.

I bet if you named a Buckethead song, the vast majority would not have heard of it, or know who performed the song.  But just say the words "Sweet Child o Mine" and everybody knows the band that recorded it, and everybody knows who plays the classic, extraordinarily memorable solos on that song.

And Izzy is a great guitarist, but he's nowhere near Slash's caliber.  Slash wrote all the kickass GNR solos, not Izzy.

Anybody can take lessons and learn to do the Buckethead shred.  Anybody.  But you can't teach anybody to pour emotion into their playing the way Slash does.  That's why Slash is considered one of the guitar greats, despite your ridiculous professions that he isn't.

His album are wellknown

Well known by WHO?  You?  Yeah, his albums are so well-known that he's NEVER had a hit album, NEVER had a hit single, NEVER had a gold certification.

Once again you make a feeble and unsuccessful attempt to pass off your opinions as those of the masses.  I've posted at many R&R boards over the past several years and met about three people who think Buckethead surpasses Slash.  This board and any Buckethead board are virtually the only places on Earth where you'll meet more people who go ga-ga over the guy.

exuce me dizzy.... Estranged is a sweet ass tune... and it WILL remain in OUR ears... but not the non-hard core GNR fans ear... its not even on Greatest Hits... seems like the public eye is stepping away from that song... weird...

Bah, don't judge Slash or GNR's legacy on the shitty track selection of that blasphemous CD!    For crying out loud, the mediocre, tepid tune "Yesterdays" is on that CD!

but saying buckethead cant make a classic riff is stupid,

Let him prove me wrong.

[Captain P?l]

why dont you let buckethead prove to you that he really CAN NOT make a awesome riff? listen though his solo shit before saying things like that... okey, dont jump the gun and look like an poor little jackass at the end...


but the fact is that estranged isnt that well known as a GNR tune outside the GNR hardcore fan world....
same as slash, noone else than GNR hardcore fans think he is the best... as for axl too..

[Dizzy]

okey, dont jump the gun and look like an poor little jackass at the end...

Look here poor little jackass, I bought that Colma CD just because people here were raving about Buckethead.  As I said before, Buckethead is a good technical guitarist, and the album sounds good.  But sounding good and being memorable and timeless are two different things.  I listened to the Colma CD twice through and decided that it didn't warrant repeated listens and got rid of it.

So take some of your own advice and don't jump the gun by assuming I haven't listened to his solo work.

[Booker Floyd]

His album are wellknown

Well known by WHO?  

Uh...how about the massive, ever-popular instrumental music community?!  Colma is obviously a landmark album, resonating with dozens of people around the world.  As far as Im concerned, music should be divided into Pre-Colma/Post-Colma eras, and I think members of Buckethead/Shawn Lane/Yngwie Malmsteen/Steve Vai message boards across the internet would agree...I mean, just listen to how fast hes playing!  It doesnt matter that the music is meandering and completely forgettable, hes not playing pentatonic scales!!!  

Oh, and anybody who disagrees and thinks Slash is better is just too stupid to understand what sounds good and automatically disinvited to my online Electric Tears listening party/Everquest competition...

[Dizzy]

Uh...how about the massive, ever-popular instrumental music community?!  Colma is obviously a landmark album, resonating with dozens of people around the world.

Dozens?  Wow!   I am awestruck!    I had no idea Buckethead's playing struck chords (no pun intended and no pun exists, since Buckethead doesn't play chords) with such an expansive array of fans!  Startling and bewildering!

I mean, just listen to how fast hes playing!  It doesnt matter that the music is meandering and completely forgettable, hes not playing pentatonic scales!!!  

Now I see clearly what I was missing before!  Speed over quality, that's the concept I wasn't grasping!  Eternal thanks for enlightening me Booker.

Oh, and anybody who disagrees and thinks Slash is better is just too stupid to understand what sounds good

I concur, and you know what that means?  We live among a multitude of fools!

and automatically disinvited to my online Electric Tears listening party/Everquest competition...

Oh, is that going to be your excuse for the poor attendance?  

Booker, I bow before your sardonic cynicism.  

[Captain P?l]

this is getting stupid.....
oh, and dizzy, buckethead do fucking play fucking chords, for fucks sake... you guys are runnin' out of arguments and take there cheap shots?!?

and as far as i know, Buckethead is a underground legend......

[Dizzy]

this is getting stupid.....
oh, and dizzy, buckethead do fucking play fucking chords, for fucks sake... you guys are runnin' out of arguments and take there cheap shots?!?

I didn't know valid (if a tad sarcastic) arguments constituted cheap shots.

and as far as i know, Buckethead is a underground legend......

As far as you know, eh?  Well I am certainly grateful to you for lending your vast knowledge of the underground to me.  But here above ground, Slash is king.  

[matt88]

As far as you know, eh?  Well I am certainly grateful to you for lending your vast knowledge of the underground to me.  But here above ground, Slash is king.  
 
Well said Slash 4 eva

[Slipdisc]

Christ, it's fucking hilarious how ass backwards you are.  Take a general consensus of rock n roll fans outside of this board.  They'll all tell you how great Slash is.  And they'll tell you they don't even know who the fuck Buckethead is.

ass backwards??? Aaah yes that?s an intelligent comment. Believe me outside the gnr-community nobody gives a flying fuck about Slash?s pentatonic noodling. Buckethead enjoys much greater respect. It?s only the gnr-fans who see Slash as the guitargod he isn?t.

Buckethead shreds, shreds, shreds.  That's it.  Like I said, any guitar teacher can do that.  The only thing Buckethead does differently is don a ridiculous bucket on his head.  Not one classic song at all.  Not one that's ever going to be remembered.  Name one of his songs known by the vast majority of rock fans.  Just one.

Listen to Colma and Electric Tears. There is no shredding on these albums . It?s calm ambient music. Slash is all about messing up and playing like a washed up drunk. The only difference with other burned out drunks is that he wears a tophat.

The vast majority of rockfans??? Wow are you speaking for the vast majority of rockfans?? It?s no surprise to me that the VAST MAJORITY of rockfans can?t appreciate Buckethead?s work. His solostuff is experimental guitarmusic and not rock, maybe that?s the reason?but you?ll probably don?t get that..

I bet if you named a Buckethead song, the vast majority would not have heard of it, or know who performed the song.

Indeed yes! Just like not many would recognize Lane?s music. That doesn?t mean that these players blow Slash away in a second. By your poor reasoning Britney Spears would be a modern day Mozart!! Who cares for what the VAST MAJORITY likes?. Usually it?s crap anyway.

The people who have been listening to the best modern day guitarplayers have to offer have known Buckethead for more then thirteen years now. It?s just you reasoning from your own ignorance who can?t grasp it.

And Izzy is a great guitarist, but he's nowhere near Slash's caliber.  Slash wrote all the kickass GNR solos, not Izzy.

Izzy was ten times more a guitarplayer then Slash. Slash was just a showman?. As a musician Slash had nothing on Izzy.

Anybody can take lessons and learn to do the Buckethead shred.  Anybody.

I bet we will be hearing you do some killer arpeggio?s soon then. Please don?t have such an unfounded opinion about music you clearly don?t get. Buckethead?s chops are of a difficulty-level only few players have been able to master.

But you can't teach anybody to pour emotion into their playing the way Slash does.

No that?s right? you can?t teach a person to play such bad bends and horrible tone? you can only suck that much by nature?

Well known by WHO?  You?  Yeah, his albums are so well-known that he's NEVER had a hit album, NEVER had a hit single, NEVER had a gold certification.

Read some guitarmags sometimes (the good ones). There aren?t many guitarplayers with such a big fanbase as Buckethead has. It?s not my problem that you don?t know the first thing about what?s going on in guitarmusic.

Your poor reasoning where being wellknown seems to equal quality is getting really sad? get a clue?.the one being assbackwards is you.

Once again you make a feeble and unsuccessful attempt to pass off your opinions as those of the masses.

Yep that?s a strong one coming from the representative of THE VAST MAJORITY OF ROCKFANS

I've posted at many R&R boards over the past several years and met about three people who think Buckethead surpasses Slash.

LOL!!! Well you don?t meet a lot of people then. Slash has absolutely no name as a guitarplayer on most other boards. People know him, yes. But his playing is never regarded as being more then average.

Uh...how about the massive, ever-popular instrumental music community?!  Colma is obviously a landmark album, resonating with dozens of people around the world.

I was waiting for Booker to come along and start badmouthing about entire musicstyles. Really saying something like that says more about you then instrumental music.

and I think members of Buckethead/Shawn Lane/Yngwie Malmsteen/Steve Vai message boards across the internet would agree?

Yes they would and that?s all that matters. Every one of those guitarplayers kicks Slash?s ass.

I mean, just listen to how fast hes playing!

What has speed to do with it? The albums we?re discussing like Electric Tears and Colma are absolutely no fast albums. Thanks for showing us how serious your opinion should be taken. You still don?t have a clue?

It doesnt matter that the music is meandering and completely forgettable, hes not playing pentatonic scales!!!

Just your opinion. Its takes a lot more to make the music players like Buck, Vai, Lane and so on come up with. A guitarplayer who spend his entire career playing endless variations on the same boring pentatonic scales has nothing on these players.

Oh, and anybody who disagrees and thinks Slash is better is just too stupid to understand what sounds good

Or very poorly educated on music in general and especially guitarplayers.  

As far as you know, eh?  Well I am certainly grateful to you for lending your vast knowledge of the underground to me.  But here above ground, Slash is king.

Yes and Slash?s star shines brightly next to other ?quality? musicians like Britney Spears. Cause like we all know?. being well-known equals quality!!! Thank you all for explaining me the essential element of the philosophy of THE VAST MAJORITY OF ROCKFANS? Now I truly understand why you act this ignorant on Buckethead (and whole styles of music)

Please forgive me for responding to all of you in just one thread. But I thought it would be appropriate since all your arguments suck equally as much?

-PEACE-

[jarmo]

Believe me outside the gnr-community nobody gives a flying fuck about Slash?s pentatonic noodling. Buckethead enjoys much greater respect.

Guitar World magazine had a 100 Greatest Metal Guitarists Of All Time list in their March 2004 Issue:
15. Slash

Hendrix Named Greatest Guitarist
Total Guitar magazine, August, 2002.
4. Slash

It?s only the gnr-fans who see Slash as the guitargod he isn?t.

Apparently not.



/jarmo

[Dizzy]

Thanks for the input Jarmo.

This guy obviously went over the deep end long ago, just like he has on this thread.  "Slipdisc" is an apt username, because I think his "disc" slipped a few times before it made its way into the CD player.

Trying to convince him that Slash is a great guitar player is like trying to convince the criminally insane that fairies aren't really dancing across their cellblocks.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Stop it. Beeing a good guitarist is not only playing 1000 notes per seconds, that's not that. Rock n' Roll is FEELING. Buckethead is technically amazing, probably better than Slash, faster, whatever you want, but in fact Buckethead is pretty weak: feeling: 0/10 charisma: 0/10  image/0/10 impact: 0/10. he is WEAK.
beeing "Rock n' Roll" is something you are, or you are not. It comes from your soul, it's inside you. That is the meaning of the word "music".
Slash is, Buckethead is not and will never be.

end of story.

rocktar81 you really have no clue what you are talking about.
Im not even going to compare BH to slash.

First off, BH has zero image? You have got to be kidding me, did you even see him live with gnr, his solo set? Or live on his own or with primus? My guess is no, do you even know what image is?

2nd.  You give BH a zero for feeling? Why is that? Have you ever heard the album electric tears? I m guessing no, but that album just oozes feeling.

3rd charisma so what if BH doesnt run around or jump around on stage, that is not his gimmic, he is suppost to be a robot and thats how he acts.
You need to get a clue.

4th impact. You really dont think BH has any impact? I think BH has a huge impact esp for gnr, why do y ou think a lot of gnr fans think if he ever leaves it will be  a huge loss?

Finally Rock and roll is something inside you? well incase you didnt notice BH is not rock n roll, he is much more diverse than that.
Its really sad you are to hard for slash and dont see the talent that BH really is.

but its your loss not ours.

[neuby87]

Okay if i ever see slipdisc in person ill slap him so silly how can he even admit that buckethead is better than slash, slash is a way better guitarst than.... whats it name oh yeah buckethead pssh what the hell is that, and im only gonna sit here and laugh my ass off about slipdisc puttin buckethead on the same level as jimi hendrix

[Dizzy]

I think BH has a huge impact esp for gnr, why do y ou think a lot of gnr fans think if he ever leaves it will be  a huge loss?

This is an interesting retrospective comment.  I agree that everyone felt that way before Buckethead departed.  But now, it's funny to read people saying "Fuck Buckethead!  He fucked Axl over, so now we don't need him!"  

[hynzie]

Slash no question!

[Gunner80]

As always someone's favorite guitar player is always going to be SUBJECTIVE. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a sticky topic called Favorite guitar player.

[Dave_Rose]

I'll have to say Slash although Buckethead is a highly talented guitarist and I do like him a lot but Slash plays with emtion and some of Buckethead's material from his solo projects are similar but I do like Bucket just prefer Slash

[Dayle1066]

Who is my favourtie guitarist? Slash. Whom do I consider best taking into account tone, feel, sound, technique? Slash.
Slash is no virtuoso, he is a Hard rock guitarist. Buckethead is a virtuoso, not as popular as say Satriani or Vai but still a great technical player. At the end of the day its who you prefer.

[metalhead666]

Of course Slash, he's 1 of the greatest guitarists of all time and a living legend!!!!!!