A trilogy is three parts, why is "Estranged" part IV?

[RichardNixon]

Has that been explained?

[Jonathan]

They were going to do four but that didn't happend so they called the 'Estranged' part IV.. I don't really know why, looked cool or something.

[jameslofton29]

Has that been explained?

No, it hasn't been. I'm surprised this was sent to Dead Horse. Its cool that you pointed this out, I had never bothered to notice it. Maybe some other song from the albums was supposed to be part 3, but plans for a video were shelved.

[jarmo]

As far as I remember, the video for Estranged was supposed to be part 3. Plans changed and the video story was changed so it turned into a completely different story.




/jarmo

[jameslofton29]

As far as I remember, the video for Estranged was supposed to be part 3. Plans changed and the video story was changed so it turned into a completely different story.




/jarmo

But if plans changed, why name it part 4? Why even number it at all?

[jarmo]

As a joke?

Part 4 of 3......



/jarmo

[jameslofton29]

As a joke?

Part 4 of 3......



/jarmo

Not a very funny joke. Milking Illusions in 1993 was a much funnier joke.

[RichardNixon]

^Not funny joke. Illusions rocked.

[Albert S Miller]

part 3 was supposed to be the sequelle to November Rain, ya know everybody was supposed to find out how Steph died and Stuff. ?I think that because of the breakup between Steph and Axl that didn't happen and Estranged ended up being the next step. ?Watching the making of Estranged or November Rain i can't remember exactly which one Del James says that since they didn't make part 3 you would have to by his book if you wanted to know how Steph died cause he said he wasn't ?tellin. ?Name of the book "Without You"


Anyone ever read it or know the answer?

[You Gonna Eat That?]

What video is the first part?

[Albert S Miller]

Part 1 is the making of 'Don't Cry'
Part 2 is the making of 'November Rain'
Part 4 is the making of 'Estranged'

[jameslofton29]

^Not funny joke. Illusions rocked.

Of course UYI rocked. I was talking about how they were milking  dated albums in late92/93 with new singles/videos during the peak of the grunge era. Not a very smart move.

[W. Botaxl Rose]

Weren't Loco-motive & Coma supposed to be part of that whole GNR epic video thing, but, like so many other Guns related ideas, just never happened. locomotive would kind of fit in there before estranged lyrically & broken up the string of ballads.

[jameslofton29]

Weren't Loco-motive & Coma supposed to be part of that whole GNR epic video thing, but, like so many other Guns related ideas, just never happened. locomotive would kind of fit in there before estranged lyrically & broken up the string of ballads.

Interesting observation. But I think 'Breakdown would have fit the trilogy better than the songs you mentioned. But, like you said, we'll never know. By the way, good to see you back Botaxl!

[purplehaze1988]

i just always assumed it was gnr's "sense of humour" calling it part iv of the trilogy. and im probably right

[boston]

THE ANSWER: THERE IS 4 PTS., GOT A FREE HOUR CHECK THIS OUT ! ;
the Del James story "Without You" ,that inspired the videos is part 3
if you read the story it links together "November Rain" & "Enstranged"

I know what your saying, A four part trilogy
still don't really make sense, but that is the way it is


I found this link recently to a post of the full story, print this out
watch "don't cry" & "november rain"
then read part 3 "without you"
http://www.geocities.com/zsniper51/WithoutYou.htm
when done watch "enstranged", it will all make much more sense
very cool, very intense project when you see it as a whole
your gonna love this

part 1 - don't cry
part 2 - november rain
part 3 - without you by del james
part 4 - enstranged
? ? * all inspired by the short story "without you" by del james

[PJ]

THE ANSWER: THERE IS 4 PTS., GOT A FREE HOUR CHECK THIS OUT ! ;
the Del James story "Without You" ,that inspired the videos is part 3
if you read the story it links together "November Rain" & "Enstranged"

I know what your saying, A four part trilogy
still don't really make sense, but that is the way it is


I found this link recently to a post of the full story, print this out
watch "don't cry" & "november rain"
then read part 3 "without you"
http://www.geocities.com/zsniper51/WithoutYou.htm
when done watch "enstranged", it will all make much more sense
very cool, very intense project when you see it as a whole
your gonna love this

part 1 - don't cry
part 2 - november rain
part 3 - without you by del james
part 4 - enstranged
? ? * all inspired by the short story "without you" by del james

i really dont think that the book is part 3 of the trilogy... the book was the inspiration of the histories of the videos..
i think estranged is part 4 cuz the combination of triyng to be funny and cuz stephanie broke up with axl by the time n they couldnt do the estranged video with her and finish the history.... so instead of makin part 3 with another person, they made video with the concept of the break up... and it became  "part 4"

[boston]

read the story ,
it starts at the end of "november rain"
it ends at the beginning of "enstranged"
this was always the plan
the story was credited in the videos

[axlrose]

breakdown was supposed to be the 3rd part of the trilogy according to several people or at least thats what several high sources have told me but many people on here seem to believe its without you by del james which does make sense

[jameslofton29]

thats what several high sources have told me

Instead of asking your "high sources" about Breakdown, ask about CD next time.

[GNRBABY]

read the story ,
it starts at the end of "november rain"
it ends at the beginning of "enstranged"
this was always the plan
the story was credited in the videos

This is the truth and Axl was supposed to star in a short film that would have aired on MTV as a special. Of course that didn't happen! Thus we are left with the fragmented storyline. If you read the book it makes perfect sense. Thanks Boston

[chineseblues]

read the story ,
it starts at the end of "november rain"
it ends at the beginning of "enstranged"
this was always the plan
the story was credited in the videos

Um no, in the making of estranged axl explains why it's called part 4 of the trilogy. It's because they couldnt do the video (estranged) that was suppose to pick up the story where november rain left off because him and steph were no longer a couple and they couldnt do it. So they just came up with a different concept for estranged and named it part 4.

[boston]

read the story ,
it starts at the end of "november rain"
it ends at the beginning of "enstranged"
this was always the plan
the story was credited in the videos

Um no, in the making of estranged axl explains why it's called part 4 of the trilogy. It's because they couldnt do the video (estranged) that was suppose to pick up the story where november rain left off because him and steph were no longer a couple and they couldnt do it. So they just came up with a different concept for estranged and named it part 4.

try reading it !

[boston]

read the story ,
it starts at the end of "november rain"
it ends at the beginning of "enstranged"
this was always the plan
the story was credited in the videos

Um no, in the making of estranged axl explains why it's called part 4 of the trilogy. It's because they couldnt do the video (estranged) that was suppose to pick up the story where november rain left off because him and steph were no longer a couple and they couldnt do it. So they just came up with a different concept for estranged and named it part 4.

try reading it !

just curious
if  "without you" is not part 3,
it would have to be one hell of a coincidence
that the story that is credited with inspiring the videos
just happens to pick up where part 2 ends
and leave off where part 4 begins ?