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« on: August 24, 2009, 06:22:15 AM »


It's my understanding that CD could be eligible for the next Grammy Awards.

Would be awesome to see CD get the recognition [I think] it deserves!   Smiley

Does anybody know when the nominees for the next Grammy will be announced?
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« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2009, 07:24:21 AM »

I don't think it's for a couple months at least.  When are the grammy's anyway?  February?  I remember last year Chinese Democracy was already out when the grammy nominations were being made, but it wasn't released before the cutoff date to be eligible.  So, yes, it is my understanding that it would be eligible this year.  I wonder what category they'd fit under.  As Jethro Tull was once considered "metal" by the Grammy's.
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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2009, 07:44:56 AM »

I don't think it's for a couple months at least.  When are the grammy's anyway?  February?  I remember last year Chinese Democracy was already out when the grammy nominations were being made, but it wasn't released before the cutoff date to be eligible.  So, yes, it is my understanding that it would be eligible this year.  I wonder what category they'd fit under.  As Jethro Tull was once considered "metal" by the Grammy's.

According to norwegian wiki-page it's held February each year.

If it was up to me, CD would be nominated in the following categories:

- Best Hard Rock Performance
- Best Rock Song
(Prostitute)
- Best Rock Album
- Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical


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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2009, 07:54:01 AM »

Agreed but we will see if these people will do the same thing as the dam radio people did with CD and hell yeah nominate it for a couple of gramies CD deserves it peace
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2009, 08:14:16 AM »

Agreed but we will see if these people will do the same thing as the dam radio people did with CD and hell yeah nominate it for a couple of gramies CD deserves it peace

The votes and nominees aren't supposed to have anything to do with record-sales and popularity. So in a perfect world, they simply can't ignore it!  Smiley

From Wiki:

"Record companies and individuals may submit recording to be nominated. The entries are entered online and then a physical copy of the product must be sent to the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences. Once a work is entered, reviewing sessions are held by over 150 experts from the recording industry. This is done only to determine whether or not a work is eligible or entered into the proper category for official nomination. They may vote to nominate in the general field (Record of the Year, Album of the Year, Song of the Year and Best New Artist) and in no more than nine out of 30 other fields on their ballots."

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2009, 08:34:11 AM »

Yeah the grammy's have absolutely nothing to do with record sales.  It's not a popularity contest.  That's why Britney Spears and the likes don't win album of the year, even though they may have the sales to back that up.

I remember years ago Herbie Hancock won album of the year and his album hadn't sold well at all till that point.  Then he won the grammy and sales for the album skyrocketed.  Sometimes people need to be told what's good and what they should buy.  A grammy helps give some legitimacy.  Not sure if it'll play out that way with GNR.  Would be nice though.
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009, 09:43:17 AM »

um.....no.
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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009, 09:49:11 AM »

there's a better chance of slash returning to gn'r than Chinese being nominated for a grammy.

Music alone won't give you a grammy and chinese democracy was so badly promoted no one even knows it came out, and the majority of those who know, don't care.

it's just we the fans that keep pushin cd to everyone's ears.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 09:51:17 AM »

It would be fucked up, but not surprising it it didn't receive any nominations. After all, isn't Axl the Herbie Hancock of rock?
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2009, 09:51:44 AM »

um.....no.
You could very well be correct, and I assume you don't think it SHOULD be nominated either.  Just curious, out of the categories listed above, what albums would you think should be nominated.  Not trying to be a dick, just trying to gauge the competition.

- Best Hard Rock Performance
- Best Rock Song (Prostitute)
- Best Rock Album
- Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical

For the record, Rock Song and Performance may be a bit of a stretch.  Not that I don't think they have the ability to win either, but I think Best Rock Album would be the most likely if anything.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2009, 12:04:14 PM »

there's a better chance of slash returning to gn'r than Chinese being nominated for a grammy.

Music alone won't give you a grammy and chinese democracy was so badly promoted no one even knows it came out, and the majority of those who know, don't care.

it's just we the fans that keep pushin cd to everyone's ears.

Ask your friends if they have heard of Georg Solti... Nobody? Hmm...that's strange.... Cause he must have had one helluva promotion-team behind him since he's the one who's won the most Grammys (38 in all)

Winning a Grammy has nothing to do with how well you album is promoted.

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2009, 01:03:46 PM »

From Wiki:

Record companies and individuals may submit recording to be nominated.


I kinda doubt Interscope/Universal Music in the USA will do that....

They must be busy with Lady Gaga and the Pussycat Dolls.





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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2009, 01:30:39 PM »

From Wiki:

Record companies and individuals may submit recording to be nominated.


I kinda doubt Interscope/Universal Music in the USA will do that....

They must be busy with Lady Gaga and the Pussycat Dolls.






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But I guess if the GNR-camp wants CD to be considered for a Grammy by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences (or whoever does that part), there's most likely a way to get it done. 


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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2009, 01:57:02 PM »

From Wiki:

Record companies and individuals may submit recording to be nominated.


I kinda doubt Interscope/Universal Music in the USA will do that....

They must be busy with Lady Gaga and the Pussycat Dolls.






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But I guess if the GNR-camp wants CD to be considered for a Grammy by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences (or whoever does that part), there's most likely a way to get it done. 




I'm sure they'll handle this with the usual care and professionalism we've come to expect from them.

According to grammy.com, Recording Academy-members can submit entries. And since Azoff has a lot of years experience in the buisness, I bet he knows some people who know some people...  ok

So no worries about CD being entered. It's the "which-they-consider-worthy-of-recognition"-part that has to go our way!   Wink

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 02:01:48 PM »

Nop. No Video Clip, No Promotion, no, no,. no.. NOTHING.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2009, 02:10:31 PM »

I believe that Chinese Democracy deserves a Grammy nod, but it will not happen.

1. Axl won't show up to accept the award

-This is the number one reason. There's just nothing in it for the Grammys to nominate Axl. He's not going to show up, so why bother honoring him.

2. This album is a non-entity in the U.S.

-It gets zero airply. It doesn't chart. No videos. No promotion. No tour. No band photo. It's a ghost.

It's too bad, really - Grammy recognition could really kickstart this album.

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2009, 02:44:24 PM »

I believe that Chinese Democracy deserves a Grammy nod, but it will not happen.

1. Axl won't show up to accept the award

-This is the number one reason. There's just nothing in it for the Grammys to nominate Axl. He's not going to show up, so why bother honoring him.

2. This album is a non-entity in the U.S.

-It gets zero airply. It doesn't chart. No videos. No promotion. No tour. No band photo. It's a ghost.

It's too bad, really - Grammy recognition could really kickstart this album.



Seems like you got your facts a bit mixed up! You're thinking about VMA's or Teen Choice Award. That's a popularity contest!  Lips Sealed

From what I remember, other people accept Grammy-awards for winners all the time. And airplay, chart-positions, videos and promotion is in no way whatsoever a must for Grammy recognition! It's why winning a Grammy is a bigger achievment than say.... a VMA-award! It's a part of the Grammy's integrity.

Considering he showed up at the VMA's only to introduce The Killers. I'd say it's more than likely he will show up if GN'R is nominated for a Grammy!
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2009, 03:01:42 PM »

I think it would be funny as hell if CD won something and Axl made the same intro as he did at the VMAs: "Do you know where the fuck (bleeped out) you are!" Especially considered the Grammys are on national TV and the VMAs are only on MTV (which is watched by fewer people). I assume.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2009, 03:41:30 PM »

CD should be album of the year, but it will not get a mention at the Grammys
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2009, 04:56:49 PM »

Seems like the Grammy nominees usually have a certain amount of buzz leading up to the nomination announcement.  Gn'R has no such buzz (as it stands now)...so I highly doubt they will be nominated (unless it is some obscure category like "best use of chicken bucket (non-classical)." 
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