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Title: Proud to be an american
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 27, 2005, 09:01:45 AM
Thou shall no shoot :)

http://planetvids.com/html/Tons-Of-Guns.html


god, it's looks fun tho? :hihi: :hihi: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 27, 2005, 12:06:41 PM
Dear Lord....

What was that?

The walmart employee weekend picnic?  :hihi:

I hope everybody doesn't think we are all like that.



Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 27, 2005, 01:06:48 PM
Dear Lord....

What was that?

The walmart employee weekend picnic?  :hihi:

I hope everybody doesn't think we are all like that.



dont worry ;)
but you have to admit...... it looks fun ......
the double machine gun ! god !! :)


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 27, 2005, 01:14:17 PM
Dear Lord....

What was that?

The walmart employee weekend picnic?  :hihi:

I hope everybody doesn't think we are all like that.




the double machine gun ! god !! :)

haha yea, you think she won a million bucks the way she acted after shooting that thing.

Letting the little kids shoot those guns though....not good.


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Sterlingdog on July 27, 2005, 03:31:09 PM
Dear Lord....

What was that?

The walmart employee weekend picnic?? :hihi:

I hope everybody doesn't think we are all like that.



No, just everyone who voted for Bush.

Just kidding.   But did you notice that one of the kids was wearing a Bush/Cheney shirt?


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 27, 2005, 03:34:05 PM
Dear Lord....

What was that?

The walmart employee weekend picnic?  :hihi:

I hope everybody doesn't think we are all like that.



No, just everyone who voted for Bush.

Just kidding.   But did you notice that one of the kids was wearing a Bush/Cheney shirt?

Well lets be honest, we would be hard pressed to see anybody who voted for Clinton in that crowd!  :hihi:

The more I think about it, the more the thing says "D's family reunion"....I mean, really, it's got Kentucky all over it!

 :hihi:


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Axls Locomotive on July 27, 2005, 04:10:53 PM
good grief...you let kids play around with guns like they are toys? thats fucked up


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 27, 2005, 06:06:42 PM
good grief...you let kids play around with guns like they are toys? thats fucked up

i wonder if they're shooting at human shaped targets ... ?___?


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Walk on July 27, 2005, 09:43:21 PM
This movie gives me some hope that all is not lost in America.  :) Kids using guns at that age learn to respect them for what they are, part of the American proactive male identity. They'll be real men someday!


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 27, 2005, 09:54:30 PM
This movie gives me some hope that all is not lost in America.  :) Kids using guns at that age learn to respect them for what they are, part of the American proactive male identity. They'll be real men someday!



(http://tinypic.com/9isig6.jpg)

You'll say anything to get a reaction won't you.

Bet you write on bathroom walls at rest stops too......


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Prometheus on July 27, 2005, 10:13:25 PM
This movie gives me some hope that all is not lost in America.  :) Kids using guns at that age learn to respect them for what they are, part of the American proactive male identity. They'll be real men someday!



(http://tinypic.com/9isig6.jpg)

You'll say anything to get a reaction won't you.

Bet you write on bathroom walls at rest stops too......

fucker...... got it out b4 me.......


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 27, 2005, 11:43:10 PM

Quote

fucker...... got it out b4 me.......
Quote

I'm quick like that...bEEotch!


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on July 28, 2005, 09:55:21 AM
God forbid someone is having fun utilizing their constitutional rights in a supervised and safe way.  Notice that those guns didn't shoot themselves, someone was behind the trigger at all times.  Notice how no one was injured because they utilized proper firearm safety.  Just because some of you Europeans and liberal Americans were/are so quick to give up your best method of self defense and protection against a tyranical government doesn't mean we all are.  Just out of curiosity, how many of you "anti-gunners" have ever even shot a firearm?  Don't you think it somewhat reasonable to educate yourself on the issue before you take a stance.  There are 300 million guns in America and crime is at an all time low (check the crime reports). Guns aren't the problem, the problem is gangbangers and uneducated masses willing to sacrifice more rights for a false sense of security.  Before anyone flames me on this and tells me how their retarded cousin shot himself cleaning a gun or how guns can kill people, look up some statistical information regarding the issue.  And if you're going to use the brady campaign, please put their misleading numbers into perspective before you post them, I don't want to watse all my time pointing out why they're inaccurate.  Kudos to walk for being another responsible gun owner who realizes education is key to responsible use and a safe society.


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Will on July 28, 2005, 10:11:03 AM
Ill laught at that when youll find me a similar video about French or other europeans' cliches. ;D Easy target.


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Rain on July 28, 2005, 11:48:54 AM
Well Baguettes are less harmful than guns ....  ;D

Sometimes you pro-guns guys are unbelievable when it comes down to constitutional rights ... you have to acknoledge the constitution was written two centuries ago ... no uzi or any type of firearms we've seen in the link posted by whatever existed, right ? So if these were now forbidden it cannot go against the constitution at all ... If these are legal were to draw the line ? Nuclear missiles ? Is it enough to protect yourself against the dictatorship of your own federal governement ?  ??? ::)


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 28, 2005, 11:57:55 AM
God forbid someone is having fun utilizing their constitutional rights in a supervised and safe way.  Notice that those guns didn't shoot themselves, someone was behind the trigger at all times.  Notice how no one was injured because they utilized proper firearm safety.  Just because some of you Europeans and liberal Americans were/are so quick to give up your best method of self defense and protection against a tyranical government doesn't mean we all are.  Just out of curiosity, how many of you "anti-gunners" have ever even shot a firearm?  Don't you think it somewhat reasonable to educate yourself on the issue before you take a stance.  There are 300 million guns in America and crime is at an all time low (check the crime reports). Guns aren't the problem, the problem is gangbangers and uneducated masses willing to sacrifice more rights for a false sense of security.  Before anyone flames me on this and tells me how their retarded cousin shot himself cleaning a gun or how guns can kill people, look up some statistical information regarding the issue.  And if you're going to use the brady campaign, please put their misleading numbers into perspective before you post them, I don't want to watse all my time pointing out why they're inaccurate.  Kudos to walk for being another responsible gun owner who realizes education is key to responsible use and a safe society.

ahaha you sound like you really believe what you're saying....and it's scary :)

come on,  retarded fucktards kids shooting an automatic mini gun, a fugly biatch with no teeth jumping around .... this gotta to be the ugliest people on earth convention.
they're stupid, they use guns for NO FUCKIN REASON ! like you gonna protect yourself against thieves and murderers with a gun.

yeah, i'd like to see the fat ass family man fight back to the 7 feet crazy guy entering his house.
that's what kills me.
people think that they, the nice people, have guns to protect themselves, hey homefuck, if you can get a gun, the ex-con or serial killer can too ....

so Guns N RockMusic, maybe you're stronger than me because you have a gun, and i don't.
but if you can get a automatic weapon, just imagine what the baaaaad people can get.

not fecth.


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 28, 2005, 12:07:04 PM
Well Baguettes are less harmful than guns ....  ;D


I beg to differ....I once assualted an old lady with a baguette....


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 28, 2005, 12:15:32 PM
Well Baguettes are less harmful than guns ....  ;D


I beg to differ....I once assualted an old lady with a baguette....

so you like them old .....


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 28, 2005, 12:16:50 PM
Well Baguettes are less harmful than guns ....  ;D


I beg to differ....I once assualted an old lady with a baguette....

so you like them old .....

Not really, but I do like baguettes.....


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 28, 2005, 12:17:36 PM
God forbid someone is having fun utilizing their constitutional rights in a supervised and safe way.  Notice that those guns didn't shoot themselves, someone was behind the trigger at all times.  Notice how no one was injured because they utilized proper firearm safety.  Just because some of you Europeans and liberal Americans were/are so quick to give up your best method of self defense and protection against a tyranical government doesn't mean we all are.  Just out of curiosity, how many of you "anti-gunners" have ever even shot a firearm?  Don't you think it somewhat reasonable to educate yourself on the issue before you take a stance.  There are 300 million guns in America and crime is at an all time low (check the crime reports). Guns aren't the problem, the problem is gangbangers and uneducated masses willing to sacrifice more rights for a false sense of security.  Before anyone flames me on this and tells me how their retarded cousin shot himself cleaning a gun or how guns can kill people, look up some statistical information regarding the issue.  And if you're going to use the brady campaign, please put their misleading numbers into perspective before you post them, I don't want to watse all my time pointing out why they're inaccurate.  Kudos to walk for being another responsible gun owner who realizes education is key to responsible use and a safe society.

Tin foil hat time!!!!!

(http://tinypic.com/9jixyt.jpg)


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Will on July 28, 2005, 12:37:42 PM
Oh boy that was funny! ;D Good one SLC!

Still waiting for that european clip...mmm hmm... ;D


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 28, 2005, 12:42:41 PM
Oh boy that was funny! ;D Good one SLC!

Still waiting for that european clip...mmm hmm... ;D

LOL, thanks.

*******

You'll be waiting for a while...

Everybody knows that crime is higher over there because of less guns....oh...wait a minute....


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Axls Locomotive on July 28, 2005, 03:52:08 PM
UK population 60 million, 81 murders
US population 350 million? around 9000 murders

almost 20 times higher per capita...




Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Guns N RockMusic on July 28, 2005, 10:07:31 PM
Again, why bother to do any research before you make a comment, right?  I ask that all Aussies and Brits research their crime rates now and what they were prior to the 1996 gun ban confiscation.  You will see that violent crime has increase drastically since both countries banned the private ownership of guns.  With respect to Whatever's comments on criminals getting guns, are you really that stupid?  Criminals don't follow the law and will ALWAYS have guns.  How do you think people get shot in your countries since their is no private ownership of guns.  In America, anyone who wants to own an automatic weapon must undergo an indepth background check by the FBI as well as surrender their 4th Amendment right not to be searched, as the ATF may enter your home at anytime to inspect the weapon.  Truth be told, these "Automatic" weapons legally owned are  virtually non-existent in violent crimes in America.  Look at the numbers folks before you take a stance.  Guns are used much more often in defense than in attack and work by Dr. John Lott shows that 90% of the time a weapon is used in defense it need not be fired to stop the offender.  I'm not saying that owning a gun will stop you from a violent offender, but I like the odds of being on an even playing field and having the right to defend myself if need be.  I really wish some of our Switz members would comment on how private ownership is mandatory for all citizens and how Switzerland was the only European country not attacked or under Nazi Rule in WWII.  The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting or recreational shooting, it's the defacto clause that allows Americans the ability to protect themselves against a tyranical government.  How can Americans or any country protect themselves againt the government if teh government is the only authority that has firearm access (save criminals).  If you hate George Bush and believe his is destroying our freedoms, you should definitely support the 2nd Amendment and your right to fend off that government.  Just my opinion, but at least I've looked at the numbers unlike many of you.  And with reference to the statstiic comparing America with Britain, that American figure includes suicides and accidents which account for nearly 50% of those numbers (majority being suicides).   How many Brits kill themselves by slashing their wrist, popping pills, carbon monoxide or hanging?


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Walk on July 29, 2005, 12:06:38 AM
If a gun saves even one life through self-defence (hint: it has), then guns are good. Guns give 80 year old grandfathers a fair chance against 25 year old escaped convicts.


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 29, 2005, 12:16:55 AM
Again, why bother to do any research before you make a comment, right?  I ask that all Aussies and Brits research their crime rates now and what they were prior to the 1996 gun ban confiscation.  You will see that violent crime has increase drastically since both countries banned the private ownership of guns.  With respect to Whatever's comments on criminals getting guns, are you really that stupid?  Criminals don't follow the law and will ALWAYS have guns.  How do you think people get shot in your countries since their is no private ownership of guns.  In America, anyone who wants to own an automatic weapon must undergo an indepth background check by the FBI as well as surrender their 4th Amendment right not to be searched, as the ATF may enter your home at anytime to inspect the weapon.  Truth be told, these "Automatic" weapons legally owned are  virtually non-existent in violent crimes in America.  Look at the numbers folks before you take a stance.  Guns are used much more often in defense than in attack and work by Dr. John Lott shows that 90% of the time a weapon is used in defense it need not be fired to stop the offender.  I'm not saying that owning a gun will stop you from a violent offender, but I like the odds of being on an even playing field and having the right to defend myself if need be.  I really wish some of our Switz members would comment on how private ownership is mandatory for all citizens and how Switzerland was the only European country not attacked or under Nazi Rule in WWII.  The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting or recreational shooting, it's the defacto clause that allows Americans the ability to protect themselves against a tyranical government.  How can Americans or any country protect themselves againt the government if teh government is the only authority that has firearm access (save criminals).  If you hate George Bush and believe his is destroying our freedoms, you should definitely support the 2nd Amendment and your right to fend off that government.  Just my opinion, but at least I've looked at the numbers unlike many of you.  And with reference to the statstiic comparing America with Britain, that American figure includes suicides and accidents which account for nearly 50% of those numbers (majority being suicides).   How many Brits kill themselves by slashing their wrist, popping pills, carbon monoxide or hanging?

I believe IQ listed murders, not murders by guns....You are also ignoring the murders in the USA.

You have "looked at the numbers"? SHOW US the numbers. Show me facts, not your rant.

If the government turns out to be a bunch of cutouts, then I suppose this group of people will be able to defend themselves quite well.



Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Prometheus on July 29, 2005, 12:58:15 AM
UK population 60 million, 81 murders
US population 350 million? around 9000 murders

almost 20 times higher per capita...




newfoundland.... population 560 thousand..... give or take a mainlander........... has the highest rate of violent crime percapita in canada... not sure but in north america..... can seem to find the data...... St. johns..... about 50,000 has more violent attacks then any city in North america per capita......about 50-100/yr on avg... though in the year done... bout 2 yrs ago... was lke 500  that gave you a 1:100 chance of being attacked....... new york i think was lke 1:500 and it was a high year that yr too..... i checked out statscan but cant seem to find teh data set....


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 29, 2005, 02:09:59 AM
If a gun saves even one life through self-defence (hint: it has), then guns are good. Guns give 80 year old grandfathers a fair chance against 25 year old escaped convicts.

ahahahahah ahahaha hahahahah.
very funny :) you just made my point.
guns are useless in the hands of you fatties rednecks :) i would kick the ass of all the people in the video using a soccer ball.

and Guns N RockMusic, the fact that you considet being at war against your government is very sad. were at you war with your dad ? your teachers ? did u have guns at school in case the teacher jumps on you and bites your ears ?

i mean, if you wanna have guns that's cool. but i think that the guys from Boys n Hood and Menace 2 society use them better than the ladies in Desperate Housewives...


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: SLCPUNK on July 29, 2005, 09:36:55 AM
If a gun saves even one life through self-defence (hint: it has), then guns are good. Guns give 80 year old grandfathers a fair chance against 25 year old escaped convicts.


i mean, if you wanna have guns that's cool. but i think that the guys from Boys n Hood and Menace 2 society use them better than the ladies in Desperate Housewives...

Yea...A small child does not need to know how to fire an automatic weapon....


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Axls Locomotive on July 29, 2005, 02:29:46 PM
Again, why bother to do any research before you make a comment, right?  I ask that all Aussies and Brits research their crime rates now and what they were prior to the 1996 gun ban confiscation.  You will see that violent crime has increase drastically since both countries banned the private ownership of guns.  With respect to Whatever's comments on criminals getting guns, are you really that stupid?  Criminals don't follow the law and will ALWAYS have guns.  How do you think people get shot in your countries since their is no private ownership of guns.  In America, anyone who wants to own an automatic weapon must undergo an indepth background check by the FBI as well as surrender their 4th Amendment right not to be searched, as the ATF may enter your home at anytime to inspect the weapon.  Truth be told, these "Automatic" weapons legally owned are  virtually non-existent in violent crimes in America.  Look at the numbers folks before you take a stance.  Guns are used much more often in defense than in attack and work by Dr. John Lott shows that 90% of the time a weapon is used in defense it need not be fired to stop the offender.  I'm not saying that owning a gun will stop you from a violent offender, but I like the odds of being on an even playing field and having the right to defend myself if need be.  I really wish some of our Switz members would comment on how private ownership is mandatory for all citizens and how Switzerland was the only European country not attacked or under Nazi Rule in WWII.  The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting or recreational shooting, it's the defacto clause that allows Americans the ability to protect themselves against a tyranical government.  How can Americans or any country protect themselves againt the government if teh government is the only authority that has firearm access (save criminals).  If you hate George Bush and believe his is destroying our freedoms, you should definitely support the 2nd Amendment and your right to fend off that government.  Just my opinion, but at least I've looked at the numbers unlike many of you.  And with reference to the statstiic comparing America with Britain, that American figure includes suicides and accidents which account for nearly 50% of those numbers (majority being suicides).   How many Brits kill themselves by slashing their wrist, popping pills, carbon monoxide or hanging?

well for one, i dont think accidents and suicides are considered murders hmmm...

i was comparing like with like...in fact i saw several stats this one was the lowest, the other 2 were 11,000+ and 12,000+...i guess the 9,000 one is the "official" figure...ie, its bogus

and its amusing that you are suggesting that you should have the ability to use the guns against your government, police and politicians..for one you are committing a major offence, two you would be jailed for life and three youre never going to depose the "president" because noone belongs to a single group large enough to win...but then again this is your chance to conquer since your army is half way around the world... :hihi:


Title: Re: Proud to be an american
Post by: Sterlingdog on July 29, 2005, 07:51:49 PM
I've always wondered in what circumstances people think they will use a gun for self defense. 

Let's say you are a responsible gun owner.  You get your gun legally and keep it locked up properly.  A bad guy comes in to your house, threatening you with a weapon.  What are the chances you are even going to be in the same room as your gun?  And assuming you can get to it, is the bad guy going to let you unlock the gun safe so you can shoot him?

I suppose you could carry your gun, if you have a permit.  Then if you are at a bank when they get held up, you can shoot the bad guy.  Unfortunately, in high stress situations, even those with best aim will miss and run the very real risk of hitting someone else. 

I can't quote statistics, but I have a very long association with police.  And I know of only one instance where a gun was successfully used in self defense.  And that was a bed ridden little old lady, who kept her gun next to her bed. 

Unfortunately, many people aren't responsible with their guns, and that's when the tragedies happen, like the little kids shooting themselves or each other.  Even responsible people screw up, and shoot themselves when they are cleaning their weapons.  I've known cops that have done it.

Or the legally acquired gun is stolen during a burglary.  That happens all the time.  That just allows the weapons into the hands of criminals. 

Sorry, but I have yet to see any real reason for private citizens to have guns.  As far as the "fight the government" thing, well, that's just silly.  In this country we challenge our government through democracy.  This isn't some third world nightmare where they try to overturn their government through violence every 3 months.  And I don't think any American would want it to be.