Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I start :

How do you tell a man you need him and want to continue seeing him and getting to know him and yet tell him of not being capable to project into the future as it's too scary ?

What is a good way to make him understand I need cuddles and affection and loads of patience so I can maybe unwind a bit and feel in security ?

It's always honesty without compromize.




You say it, straight out. And ask for it of course :peace:

no matter what u gota be true to yourself if u 2 have been together 4 a few months or even years and he dont understand then u break up with him

if its when your starting a relationship out of nowhere then u gota tell him he will chances are if hes good get where your commin from thats all i got bout that

A good man doesn't need to understand that you need that - he should just be providing it from the get go.

by a house together. It's hard to leave that way.

EDIT: oh, sorry, you didn't want that :)

I think the man will be happy as long as you let him unwind.

(http://s5.tinypic.com/2uppd6o.jpg)

I couldn't have said that better  : ok: Sounds like you come from good stock as well, men like you are hard to come by, luckily I found one 19 years ago with the same morals, it has kept our marriage strong ;)

Seriously, you shouldn't need to vocalize any of this.  If he isn't doing it then he isn't the right man, point blank.

aww thanks  ;D  I'll have to show that to my girlfriend to show her I'm not a TOTAL a-hole ;) hehe

Sometimes my husband can be an a-hole also, but at the end of the day "sorry" is still all about the cuddles and affection and the love, it can sometimes be the best part of a truly crappy day : ok:

Not just that, men love self-confidence in women.

A lot of men has lost their passion for women simply because a lot of modern women has no self-respect-
- or doesn't know how to adore and treat men.

Why would any man have any incentive to give himself to egocentric, greedy, morally declined, brain-washed. disgusting, shallow, fat, fake, despicable beings? Which is the truth for a lot of women today. :-X


Well, it's mostly women that can be a-holes, be proud, you're a man! :peace:

But it's true, either you mix or you don't. So always lead yourself with honesty and openess.

We all have the potential to be all of the above mentioned, don't just blame the female gender, there are plenty of men that fit the same catagory and truthfully what is their excuse? ::)

Because we are men and we can do whatever we please!

(Obviously, that was a tongue-in-cheek comment.)

If men complain about their women being chunky, they have no excuse to rock a beer gut.  You should behave/look the way you expect others to.  People tell others to do as they say, not as they do, which is a load of baloney.

Exactly. 

However, if you think he's the right guy, then just tell him what you feel and what you need.  If he doesn't want to get it, then he's out.   

Bad break up, there, Norway? 

Yeah, you give what you receive. Finding someone equal or that fits to you :peace:


No break up and I'm satisfied with just being flirted with :P

I have to speak up on this shallow modern culture tho, a lot of men let their ladypigs be right out abusive.
Then you have this obnoxious view on men some have.

A lot of my friends are with women like that, I don't get it.

Those women usually won't hold on to their men either, so I think it's always honesty thats the key to a relationship.

you sound like a bitter misogynist.."ladypigs"?? wtf is that? did your mother beat you as a child?

And you sound like a fat ladypig! Joking... :-*

I absolutely love most nordic women. 
I'm "bitter" because of christianity and mass-culture. It completely ruins people, our society and our enviroment.

And relationships it seems to me,-
- as many are getting into a very comodified, untrue charracter which affects comunication in the long run.

Sometimes it's wrong on so many levels.

If you follow the principle of honesty without compromise, is being scared of projecting a good reason to avoid it?

Don't think so, but is it really the reason? :P


As if anyone would need that to have those opinions... ::)

That sounds like a feminist.


Maybe thos men herding their ladypig should just step up and do something about it.

I mean, what's up with those pussies? When there's a bad relationship, blame yourself for staying in it.

Masculist, but you're spot on. :peace:

Edit:

Hey! Real men don't have short hair!! Wth? :P

you both need help.
I can't believe there are women who would actually entertain the thought of being in a relationship with either of you. I seriously mean no disrespect..but come on...I find the way you are speaking to be highly offensive...Ladypigs? ::)...
good luck fellas :-*

Well, Lisa...you know what they say about those who do so much "talking" ;)

You two don't fit his requirement.



 :hihi:



/jarmo

i love scandinavian women.  :love:

Norway, is this how you came up with the ladypigs?

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f181/bluecut/stuffforsale090.jpg) + (http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/05/04/Obese-woman-460x276.jpg) = (http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:rBlp6DqwMBrOWM:http://www.csumeats.com/images/Smoked%2520Ham.jpg)

^Everyone needs to be loved, she just has a bigger heart and more love to go round, with the lights off of course :P

More cushion for the pushin' ;)

We've heard their freshman world view on the ladies before. None of these guys are much to look at in the first place, that's the irony.

SLC your attempts to get laid are just the worst.

You bitches need to learn some respect towards women. Second is that none of you are anything spectacular to look at in the first place, so where do you get off? Finally even if you were GQ handsome, it still wouldn't give you the green light to say stupid shit to or about women.

Sure, I'm respectful, to people in general, not just the fat ones.

That doesn't change the fact that being overweight is a heath issue. Also it looks disgusting. Sure you can die if you cut your wrist when feeling bad, but cutting another piece of cheese cake will get the job done, too, in the long run.

For crying out loud the average  life expectancy in U.S. will level off or decline, mostly because of (childhood)obesity. What's wrong with you, shouldn't this problem being recognized instead of all the hushing and slogans big is beatiful? Isn't honesty a virtue anymore?

How is a drinking problem different? If a person drinks too much and has a problem, I'd hope his friends are there to point that out and trying to help him through?

See, here's the thing. I see a fat person in the gym and I'm thinking "Now, that's great, good for you man!". I might thinks just a little about how the fuck did he get that big, but nonetheless, it isn't the easiest thing to get up from the sofa and exercise, so that guy deserves my support.

Guess what, I don't feel that different if I see a drunk sober.

Now again, if I'm seeing a fat person at the McDonalds, well, it's just sad, maybe I'm narrow minded but if I couldn't be happy in a state like that I can't believe he is either?

Is it fun to be fat? Is it fun to sweat easily, to be out of breath, to have hard time finding a companion? To have your knees hurt? I'd say no.

Now, I'm not fond of doing something I don't like and so, I find living in misery spineless, and the burden on healthcare irresponsible.

And for the record, it wasn't me coming up with the ladypig, but Norway really nailed the phrace, since that's what people think (minus the fatties) and that's not the same as to go and say it to someone's face.

But people joke about it, else there wouldn't be any fat jokes around. People joke about gay people, about race and about religion.  I'd say it's easier to lose weight than stop being gay.

As far as my looks go. At least I'm not fat.

That doesn't go for all women, it means ladypigs. Like if I say Nigger, it doesn't mean all negroes are niggers.



We're damn lucky up here when it comes to women, and I had idea aussies do. ;D

Intelligent, reflected, insightfull, pretty, kind, usually educated or with their own thing going and love to keep healthy.

But even in my part of the world some women have severe attitude problems and a completely messed up relationship to their own or the other gender.
I'm really horrified by some the view some "women" have in other parts...and home.

Obviously it affects break-up rates, but if the fundament is plenty for both, then do it. :peace:


Knock it off, SLC is a man too and then it's simply not a issue of SLC getting laid.

It means some get the privelegium to have him naked. Maybe he don't view it as that himself, for no reason.



Mhm...


I don't think you focus on whats being posted but,-
- thats not me on the avatar (and he is actually a great man) and Sin Cut looks just fine.

I actually look completely oposite to the way all those adverts shows how men is supposed to look and I prefer it like that.

Wouldn't wan't to look any diferent :)

you are completely offensive as per usual.So much so that I haven't got it in me to argue with you about your obvious ignorance.The way you speak makes you seem mentally challenged and immature. One day I can assure you that you will feel bad and embarrassed about the way you have spoken and treated some people you deem not worthy.

at least I'm not attacking anyone personally like *cough*

The amount of hypocrity is overwhelming, any other issue is good to discuss whatever it was alcoholism, drugs or world poverty.

I understand that looks is always a sensitive issue, but that not a reason to deny the problem.

An overweight woman doesn't look attractive to the majority of men and an overweight man doesn't look atttractive to the majority of women, that's just how it is. I don't see that as a reason to start lynching anyone for hurting that man or woman feelings for turning him or her down with the not interested.

Sure, some overweight people can deny that fact. They can deny the healthrisks, or maybe they just don't care, like I do with smoking, but that doesn't make the facts disapear. If that overweight person goes to gym, I have to give my respect, but if he's in denying it all, blaming it on the big bones and genes and the easy access to fast food, well, I hate laziness and I hate liars.

I also hate lazy liars that have to go personal since they don't have the intellect to discuss.

And Casper the friendly ghost isn't an attractive look for a man either. Well maybe the Twilight crowd.

I love how the people in this thread discussing "good looks" are nothing to look at. :rofl:

Fat or skinny, ugly is forever.

well said Bandita...and as usual Sincut does not get it.... and I will continue to 'attack' personally if that is how he feels. He knows he is being a douchebag and enjoys it. Being offensive to women and alot of men is his schtick.
It may be his personal opinion and belief but as far as I am concerned it is not a good topic because it inflames people with his ignorance and/or intolerance...

You take offense of an argumented opinion and recede to personal attacks to revolt around it.

It's just MsAxl thats actually tried to make a point.


I think it's funny that people that don't even know how I look have decided I am ugly or mistreated and whatnot ::)

If it's me it was directed at. It's not really an argument in any case's favor.

I never placed myself on some pedestal and apply pretty much equal standards regardles of gender.

Even if some here was ugly-
-then the notion that a truthfull opinion should be compromized because of it is silly.
 
It has a point but I always listen the individual regardles of race, age, deformalities etc.


Some react to what I said about some of todays female culture and the disgusting outlook on men.
 
It seems to me many socalled modern women only have sex to offer noblemen today. Thanks but no thanks I'd say. ;)

Either they are too "independent" or insecure to even have a focus on familybounds.

I believe it's mostly other ladypigs these beings impress, I surely hope so. :hihi:


Not that all men are so much better, -
-the dogmen that feeds the female ego to these swines are certainly no better.

With dogs, if somethings very wrong with them they are put to sleep. :sleeping:

If it isn't a fundament based on something real and valuable it often will ruin relationships. I see it occurs a lot.

Fine, I'll stop whining about it! D nailed it as always :P

Why assume that was directed at you?  Paranoid much?

Besides, ugly takes many forms....one of them being personality. :hihi:

Norway..serious dude..are you using a Translator?  not even sure what you are on about now..

It's not even worth replying to really. They simply don't get it.

I have known many people in my life that were "ugly" not physically but they were so ugly and transparent internally that their outer appearance meant nothing.

Beauty is a combo of traits that encompasses everything. I've talked to girls who normal frat type guys would rate a 10 that u couldn't pay me to date cause they didn't have a lot going on personality wise and were just real empty.

I won't sit here and say outer appearance is meaningless, but I'd take a girl that was a 6 with a 10 personality over a girl that is a 10 with no personality,intelligence etc etc.

more love for the fat guys

That's pretty much where I was going. 

The way some folks around here go on, it just makes ya wonder........

One of the more sensible things said, here, D.

I have to wonder, though....the person who started this topic hasn't said ONE thing the entire time.  Nothing. 

So, how important was it?  Gotten' any good advice, yet? 

Lisa, is this less offensive?

Sure, I'm respectful, to people in general, not just the drunk ones.

That doesn't change the fact that being an alcoholic is an health issue. Also it's disgusting. Sure you can die if you cut your wrist when feeling bad, but another bottle of booze will get the job done, too, in the long run.

For crying out loud the average  life expectancy in U.S. will level off or decline, mostly because of (childhood)alcoholism. What's wrong with you, shouldn't this problem being recognized instead of all the hushing and slogans like "I can stop drinking any time I like"? Isn't honesty a virtue anymore?

How is a eating problem different? If a person eats too much and has a problem, I'd hope his friends are there to point that out and trying to help him through?

See, here's the thing. I see a drunk in the AA-meeting I'm thinking "Now, that's great, good for you man!". I might thinks just a little about why the fuck can't he drink normally, but nonetheless, it isn't the easiest thing to get up from the sofa and realize there's a problem with drinking every day, so that guy deserves my support.

Guess what, I don't feel that different if I see a fattie on a diet..

Now again, if I'm seeing a drunk in the ditch, well, it's just sad, maybe I'm narrow minded but if I couldn't be happy in a state like that I can't believe he is either?

Is it fun to be an alcoholic? Is it fun to to have a hangover, having to skip work, to have hard time finding a companion? To have your stomach hurt? I'd say no.

Now, I'm not fond of doing something I don't like and so, I find living in misery spineless, and the burden on healthcare irresponsible.

But people joke about it, else there wouldn't be any drunk jokes around. People joke about gay people, about race and about religion.  I'd say it's easier to cut down drinking than stop being gay.

As far as my looks go. At least I'm not an alcoholic.


Dead on D. But would you take a girl of 2 with a personally of 10?

Everone know what you do a night with a girl of 10 with personally of 2.

Quite possibly the strangest argument I've read.

The thing that most people don't realize is, eating is a disease.

Telling an overweight person to "stop Eating' is no different than telling a manic depressant to "Cheer up"


Overeating is a disease and most of the time when u see someone that is fat, there are underlying emotional problems that cause that.

Its very rare u will find a happy fat person.  Most fat people have issues and instead of reaching for the bottle or for drugs, they reach for food.

It is still the same concept.

Sex is an addiction as well. People who have problems to cope go out and screw a different girl every night.


everything is related.

Sure, it's true for a minority of the overweight.

Or are you, D, telling me that 65% of americans are depressed and 31% have a major depressive disorder? (65 percent of America's adults are overweight and 31 percent of adults are obese and at risk for chronic diseases. Published: Friday, 11-Jun-2004 http://www.news-medical.net).

That just don't add up. (Depression and bipolar illness affect 20 percent of Americans)

Could it be that majority just like the easy living too much? Maybe the majority are too busy to excerise? Maybe, the majority just like junk food?

I mean you can't blame everything on diseases, depression and other things.

Is it such a wild claim that maybe quite a lot of 'em overweight are just too lazy to do anything about it? I mean, if I got a work assigment I don't like to do, I just might forget it and do it tomorrow. Or the day after that, atleast if it isn't urgent.

You can use it as; "Okay, I'm an alcoholic, but at least I'm not SLC"  : ok:

WTF does drinking alcohol have to do with having a miserable and ugly personality? Good Christ almighty, I swear some of you people are totally bombed when you post the ridiculous arguments you do.

I love the ones that post the novels and diatribes too...like making it LONGER will make it make more sense. ::)

@ Sin Cut-you make senseless arguments that are just coverups to insult Americans.  Give it a rest, buddy.

For someone who writes so much you know so very little....

Glass house....live in one maybe?

The problem with that Sin Cut is, u don't realize how hard it is for people to change the way they live.

im sure peopel who are fat don't want to be. I know I never liked it very much. But changing the way u have lived your life for so many years isn't as easy as u seem to make it out to be.


Like a guy who is 400 pounds and never exercised in his life is just suppose to jump up one day, throw the food away and automatically know what to do to lose weight.

it isn't an easy thing to do.

So, sure, not everyone is depressed that is fat. I was saying that for a lot of people, there are underlying problems and it isn't as simple as "This guy is lazy and a slob" sure some people are just like that but I'd say more than you would think have real issues.

That's the point!!! Ding dong, we have a winner.



Still makes no sense.


That still isn't the point. The point is that you shouldn't be such a harsh critic of others, especially in regards to looks (or really anything else.) There but for the grace of God go I and all that...

The bottom line is that they act like this because they are still boys.

don't be so hard on him, he can't help being finnish

Says the jealous Swede.

 :P


Idiots can be found everywhere. It's got nothing to do with race, nationality, age, gender, education, sexual orientation....

Something to think about to those who "love Nordic women" only or whatever.  ::)




/jarmo

o so true

My best advice on women came in my first year of professional work.  I asked this old, retired Navy fellow who had been everywhere in the world where I could find the most beautiful women.  He told me...and I'll always remember the words of this physically hobbled but mentally sharp sage..."Oh, just turn 'em over and they all look the same."

Sorry, some may find that offensive, but my God I find it hilarious.   :rofl:

D makes some great points about internal vs. external beauty.  That said, Sin Cut makes a great point when considering perspective.  It's all about how the guy or girl sees it.  Are they looking for one-night stands...a guy or girl they can have some fun with?  I'm no "player," but from what I have gathered by observation, Sin Cut is right when he says the "physical-10's, personality-2's" are going to be targets compared to "physical-2's, personality-10's."
That's just reality.

It gets dicier when talking long-term, committed relationships.  Obviously the personality becomes much more important over time.

Now I didn't look back to see how the whole fat topic got started up...the cause of obesity is multi-factorial.  Americans are not more genetically prone to obesity than any other nation's people.  This is a very diverse country.  Do Americans have more emotional issues to deal with than other nations' peoples?  Nah.  Is obesity sweeping the world as the American lifestyle spreads the globe?  Oh yeah. 

There's more cheap, sweet shit to eat nowadays.  Tv commercials here in the States (for parents lazy enough to let their kids get mindfucked by the food industries) are geared to exploit children.  We bring 'em up eating shit, so why do we expect them to stop eating shit when they are adults?  The food industry isn't stupid.

Call me a horrible person, but I agree with Sin Cut to a certain extent.  With the exception of a very small minority, obese people are making their own bad decisions.  Their decisions do result in staggering health care costs for those making the right choices. 
 :peace: 

 
 

You guys remember the movie "Shallow Hal" with Jack Black?

nothing. It's just if I have a comment on obesity it's insulting whatever the commenbt is  ::)

nothing. It's just if I have a comment on obesity it's insulting whatever the comment is  ::)


Hey, I wasn't trying to attack US here, the percent of the population that is obese is rising in Finland, too.

I used US as an example, not a scapegoat.

Great point Axl4Prez2004, especially about the food industry and the parents. Also D pointed out that it isn't easy to just jump one day, old habbits die hard etc.

So if a kid just get more and more fat, who's to blame? I saw this document about this little girl and I kept wondering what the hell is wrong with her parrents.  She wasn't chubby, she was so fat she'd be dead before turning 21. I mean who's to say how an adult must eat, but isn't it a parental duty to keep the childs diet healthy?


Yeah, it was a good movie  :)

How do you define it?
I'd say all christians of european heritage are the most morally declined (or just stupid, brainwashed) beings in the world.

People will (or they should) always seek to become the superhuman, thats the creation and force of nature.

Ugly, fat, imorale, dishonest, bastardisised etc beings aren't attractive to us for a reason.
Sure, they can be great persons but are defect humans.

Same with those who lack the understanding and instinct of moderation, or are just sick.

It's rejection of genes and no amount of christian and multi-cultural brain-wash will erase it from man and nature.






Yes, you are spot on. : ok:

Americans too are very influenced by nordic mythology, culture and democracy.
All the weekdays are dedicated to germanic and norse gods, where two days are dedicated to sun and the moon + a greek deity (saturnus).

They are all pagan tho, thats the common trait.

The reason I say christianity isn't a religion is because it's not by the respective meaning and origin.

It's the same with Islam, Judaism and so on. I'm not gonna explain here but this video might get some see more clear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1FdtpH8lSI

In paganism, only nature is holy and the only true gods are the gods within man.

Chistianity is incomplete and have so much wrong values, and people are being told it's good tho it ruins people, nations and local culture in the long run. Why people ban nazi-symbols and not christan symbols, why books like Mein Kampf instead of Malleus Maleficarum (I am against banning any books tho) is banned in some european countries is beyond me when the fact is that christians has done the most and biggest crimes of cruelty towards the diferent human races in history.

In scandinavian languages we have several words for love, describing the diferent forms of love.

Pagans had even more.

Frigg, a nordic godess, is a metaphore of love to humans, and the love to your ethnic group.
It's what makes animals protect their genetic comrades, what makes the mother defend it's offspring and so on.

It's the force of the creation and continuation of diferent species, like idiot atheists describes in their theory by Darwin.

Without Frigg, Nanna (vicinity, closeness) also disappear and we disconnect, getting comfort in flock-culture.

Frigg is the natural cause to racial/class discrimination aswell.

Freyr and Freyja is the love for the young, well-created, beautifull, fertile, strong etc human.
These are the biggest gods of Europe under a series of diferent names, also worshipped as the sun and the moon.

Titles like Frue, Frau, Madamme, Ma'm, Misstress, noblewoman (somewhat), lord, gentleman (sort of) etc derives from representatives of these.

Note, obviously Freyr is the biggest anti-christ to christianity. Satan.

These are dual-existences in nature, paganism and in real life tho. Also as femine and masculine. Sun/Moon.

Freyja's ride is two cats called cuddler and horny, while Freyr's ride is a horse called blonde hair. Gods of love, lust and fertility. :-*

Freyr and Freyja was originally the Vanir given to the Aesir and without explaining it I can hint that;
- sexuality is both inherited and formed in life. ;)

Freyja became a part of the Asynjur and is blonde with a very erotic nature, of course :friendly:
The western societies still worship these parts of man, but in a form without any contact to it's intention.

People like these, and in this part of life produce the best children.

The possesion of Freyr and Freyja also makes predators instinctivly notice the old, sick and weak.
Parts of them make us reject ugly and fat people as sexy, complicated.

They have as an addition many charracteristics and preferences diferent from eachother too, you can read in mythology. :)

In the mythology they usually mingle with gods of morale, loyjality as the contact is imperative. :yes:

The narrowminded christian black and white view obviously fail to see how "evil" is natural and needed.

There is a lot more gods, gods of justice, solidarity, loyality etc but these two relates most to relationships.




The purpose in animals collective life is to improve the race. Guess all know about Darwin (atheist sucks tho).

That goes for humans too, this is the original purpose of the olympics;
To find the best man suited for the task of marrying a coven of priestesses, quality is all that matters.

This is what we inheritly search in humans when doing the events that may or may not lead to sex/a relationship.

No amount of "humanistic" christian brain-wash and propagandic indoctrination will erase it.

Unless the entire human species detoriates into a shallow fat bastard on mass-culture. :hihi:

When we wan't children, too often we only focus on eachothers money and personality traits...which is good!
But most important is the genetic quality we pass on.

This is whats lost today, it's politically incorrect.

Christianity disconnects us from true knowledge, what matters.

And ALL these things relate to relationships, cause these forces still influence normal beings.

Modern culture opress these things, comodifies it, market it-
-so the natural outcome is relationship problems.

It's very hard to comunicate and go outside the manufactured boundaries for some people.

It's hard to tell eachother what needs we have, how we wan't it out of fear.

That fear stems from flock-processes.

Humans also see eachother as the social position we hold in our class-
- not just the personification we manifest, genetic quality, morality, value-foundation, taste etc

We protect the position at all cost so most (weaklings! :P) not wanna be labeled witch, nazi, racist etc as affects our wellbeing and freedom socially.

So if you're being honest with yourself and others thats the best advice for a good relationship to other humans in general-
-wether you are after just sex and a friend, a father and long-time partner material, security.

This is what I think Jessica struggles with.

She found someone she been with but are unsure wether this is the right and wrong person for a long-termed relationship and because of christianity and modern culture it's difficult to comunicate and explain what ground she's on for the time being.

Advice is as I first posted, honesty without compromise.

Thats my take on it. :peace:



That would be me, I agree 100% with your first sentence.

You can still not dispute the fact of genetic dispostion of behaviour patterns.

Yes, I also prefer nordic women because of the beauty of the race, because it's my race and the qualities to the race.

They are intelligent, sporty, loving, caring people with true pride, integrity and respect usually foremost.

Etnophelia (racemixing) happens less in nature than homosexuality.
Yes, many wild animals are gay :P

May I say I am against multi-ethnic societies and find interacial breeding distgusting by personal opinion? :hihi:

Secondly, bastards have more problems with, both inherited and not, disabilities, deformalities (including baldness) and diseases when in fertile age.

Thrirdly, do we wanna see germanic and nordic people end up like the native americans when they felt the force of christianity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab1EixVFKZE

It's very few pure-blooded people left in northern-europe.
But I can't help laugh at the irony that they will disappear this way given the testament of Hitler. ;D

I'm a HUGE fan of Bruce Lee so there is no blind hate here, but our nose rarely lie.

When I say this it's easy to make stereotypic assumptions.

If you're asian, jewish, christian, feminist whatever, peace. I'm against the institution of it, not anyones person.


Great argument! Not... ::)
Sin Cut may be young, so intelectually he maybe not argument so deeply into things, but instinctivly he rejects whats wrong.

I'm fully aware I can offend people, it's not the intention tho. :peace:

By focusing on morale, nobility, honesty, honor, courage, beauty, strenght, health, youth etc we increase the quality of our collective race, which is a responsebillety and the best gift we can give to those who come after us, and it increase quality in personal life, social life and love-life.

Eliteism doesn't exlude solidarity (Tyr/Ty).

It's a struggle with emotions to get there but a necesisity of whats holy, nature. :peace:






Yes, and? Tell us where you're coming from. :P

Jessica given the advice you gave me last year, I say castrate... him while he sleeps.


I have to say I'm joking, Jessica was very helpful.

What advice did you get?

Hmm.. I'm more jealous of those "ugly" people who seem very happy together, than of those beautiful, perfect people who seem to have nothing in common with each other. So I guess I'd rather be ugly and happy than beautiful and miserable. Of course that doesn't mean you can't be both beautiful and happy (or ugly and unhappy, haha), but... well, that's just the way I see things.

True  : ok:

Does anyone remember those hideous pics of the pencil neck marying a balding fat chic?

I mean, that must be definition of ugly.

So did anyone ever get relationship advice out of all this crapola?

I don't think anybody needs to read more than that to see that you're basically preaching the old nazi propaganda.

You think your own race is better than all the others? Isn't there a word for that?




/jarmo

You're right obesity is a problem that needs to be addressed.  It's not attractive to many people and it's a major health issue.  So is alcoholism. 

So is smoking, Sin Cut.  How can you justify going off on obesity or other things when smoking is just as much of a burden on the healthcare system, if not more.  It's also really unattractive to some people.   What's the difference? 

I'm just saying you seem to have a very narrow view of others and what is attractive or healthy, while not looking at your own habits and self that might not be so attractive to others or healthy either. 

And Norway, what are you talking about?!?   ??? :P

Another totalarian sheep-system enforced on people similar to christianity? Nooo! :P


Nazis where the first in Europe to protect animals by law, did it stop vets to defend values they believe in?
I hate neo-socialists, support democracy and what happened in the camps was horrible.

But the fact that they were breathtaken by the nordic race and culture shouldn't opress anyone imo. : ok:

PS/

Is it ok that the respective race in some european countries get payed by their state for having children in this overpopulated world?




I think there is diferent qualities to each race, superiority is too subjective. Pretty sure it's a name for it, I got my ladypig. ;)

In Australia, white people get more skincancer for example.



Lets say a woman is "GQ handsome" they got no right say "stupid shit" to or about, lets say men who beat weaker women?

Having a ugly sexorgan and some sag-things on the chest doesn't make anyone noble :P

Norway, holy shit man, you're serious, right?   :nervous:

All this crap about obesity, drinking, smoking...eugenics  :nervous:, I'll try to get us back on topic here:


Axl4Prez's relationship advice for the ladies:

Never date a man who is violent in any way, shape, or form.  (outside of an athletic endeavour of course)

Never date a man who abuses or is addicted to drugs or alcohol.  You may think you're the one who can heal the wounded bird...but you're not, and your life will be much more miserable with this p.o.s. dragging you down.

Never date a man who disrespects you by his words or actions. 

Do date the man who supports you in your own personal goals/life fulfillment plan.

Wait until marriage to have sex.  Before you all shout out, "well how do you know if he's terrible in bed? a selfish lover?? etc." I said no sex, but there's other stuff that can give you a damn good idea what's in store for your future.

Never dissociate love and sex...do so at your own peril.

Don't date a man outside of your ethnic background... :hihi:, sorry, had to throw that in there for Norway!  :rofl: Just Kidding!  Color means nothing.  Do you share the same values?  Whammo!  You're set.

Become friends first.  All this "friend zone" crap is for the birds.  You'll find greater joys in life than just sex.

Pursue your education and professional dreams before you get married.  Many a woman before you has been married with children and then shat on by a man who knows there's no way out for the woman with no education and left raising kids in an impossible situation.

A little advice here...all men are pigs...but not all men act like pigs.  Find the ones who are honest, not the ones who claim to be perfect. 


Sincerely,
That pompous ass Axl4Prez2004!   :beer:

 



 

Looks like it.


The same guy who wondered what would happen if Axl's name was skogsal (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=19189.0)....




/jarmo

Axl4prez, u gotta stop with that red highlight stuff

it absolutely kills my eyes.


One of the most common mistakes I think people make in relationships is just good ole fashioned over thinking shit.

Don't worry bout next year or next week or tomorrow. Just enjoy who u are with while u have them, if it doesn't work out, u get life experience from it and are a step closer to the person u are meant to find.


So don't stress over stuff. Let nature takes its course and as the old saying goes, everything comes out in the wash. If the person isn't meant for u, u will find out.

biggest mistake people make is trying to fit a circle into a square. U can see red flags and incompatibilities early in relationships.

problem is, most people try to make shit work that will never work thus inflicting lots of pain and wasting a lot of time.

those are some wise words man : ok:

Really dude My response to that would be "who really gives a turkey" but I don't mean to be fresh.  I'll lirsten to much about anythang....  Your very mysterious yet not IDK who am I to judge?

well prez that is just my experience. I dated this one girl and I was with her for years and I probably didn't enjoy a day of it, cause like Jessica in the original post, I was so consumed with the future and the whole "are we gonna make it" will she dump me shit that I ended up driving her crazy and away.

Thats what I mean about over thinking. In a relationship, u can't get too far ahead. I don't think you should, after a few weeks of dating, be already trying to imagine a wedding and forever and all that stuff.

take it slow, one day at a time, enjoy it for the experience and what it is. If it ends, mourn it, get over it, learn from it and the next chapter of your life, the next part of your journey in life begins.

The worst thing u can do in life is let a broken heart turn u into an alcoholic or drug addict also. I've seen so many people let their lives go down the tube just cause they got dumped.

Wow.  That red is hard to read.  You made some great points, and thanks for that.  I agree totally, and that could be said for men or women - except for the sex before marriage thing.   Not everyone necessary believes in marriage, either.  I would say that sex is very important in a relationship, I think, but not the be all end all.  Communication and trust and honesty and respect come before that.  You have that, I think everything else will fall into place.   

Umm, yes...there is a word for this and I am fairly certain we all know what it is. :no:

Just remember folks....beauty is in the eye of the beerholder! :peace:

I'm with you on these 4 rules. Also, dating a guy with mental health problems can be hard, if he refuses to get help. I've seen it happen to a friend of mine.

I have seen it so many times. I use to be friends with a lot of girls and they'd come to me for advice and all that.

I would always tell them to write down 5 traits they'd love to have in a guy.

They'd write down those 5 and end up with someone who had none of those and then they'd call me crying wondering why they were miserable and the dude treated them like shit.

I was like HELLO, Big Red Truck. DUH!

Seriously, I think a lot goes back to the fact a lot of chicks like the "bad boy."  It's not just guys who think with their privates.
That's right...ladies! stop thinking with your privates!!!   :rant: 
 ;D

Yeah, I've learned that a lot of girls WANT a great guy BUT they want to be the reason the guy is a great guy.

Exactly the reason I don't feel sorry for the ones that fuck their lives up and blame the guy...listen honey, he didn't turn bad overnight.  99% of the time you knew what you were getting into...and the other 1% of the time you should have known "Better!"  "Now we all know Better!!!!!!!"   ;)

well Now We All Know Better!!!!!! 2

How bout Rihanna and getting back with Chris Brown

If he beats her ass again, should we feel sorry?

I think not

You've got to think that women who do such things have some very serious issues....self-esteem or whatever.  Of course, he likely has issues too.  A need to feel powerful, or whatnot.  Lovely results when such people end up together.

Good question D...and I agree with you.  Maybe he'll break her fucking arm or something...perhaps it'll take popping her teeth out like they were Chiclets for her to wisen up.  Oh well.  Eventually he'll smack some sense into her right?  ::) 

Her parents have to be very disappointed.   :(

Her parents are probobly pissed off beyond beleif

What's old is new again...we needed an Ike and Tina for the 21st century.  :-[

Similar to how all women are parasites I take it, some just hide it very well hm. ::)






Research on primates reveal the same, depending on fertility cycles what type of man they are atracted to.
Fertile= Certain genes are more atractive, then commonly sympathic etc

Often a man with a good genepool of physical quality/immunity (which matters most in reproduction) aren't all that to live it.

Nature doing it's job :)

Thats yet another reason why the culmination of families, christianity and modern life is so wrong. 


You have a great point about friendship-
-wished more men and women started to view eachother as prospective friends instead. :peace:





Not that I'm bitter or anything!! ;D

Norway, while I completely disagree with your outlook on "racial purity," you mentioned the science behind attraction...and you are correct.  Women will be attracted to different types of men at different times in their menstrual cycles.  Interesting stuff.

btw, all women are not parasites.   ;)

I've seen so many abused women and it is really sad. I really shouldn't be so harsh on them though cause it is sort of a disease like anything else as well.

Battered Wife syndrome is real

True dat D...it's all so sad. 

then why hasnt she got some serious help

Science has a way of oversimplifying the laws of attraction. There has to be more to love and attraction that goes beyond dopamine receptors, menstrual cycles, scents, etc... We've evolved too much as a species to be given such simplistic answers of why we're attracted to someone. We're not cave people anymore, searching for that physically fit "super human" who can hunt during a blizzard and fight off wild animals in the dark with his bare hands.

For Norway/Sincut  - It's not cool or attractive to put people down for being overweight. Treating everyone with respect has nothing to do with being politically correct or having Christian values, it has to do with human decency and empathy. 

Absolutely not! She's an idiot for going back to that thug. If he beats her ass down again, then hopefully he'll beat some sense into her this time. But probably not.

There's emotional "abuse" as well, and it can be as damaging as physical abuse is, IMO. And it's also harder to tell if someone's suffering from it, because it doesn't show on the outside.

I believe Axl4Prez's Rules #'s 1, 3, and 4 cover emotional abuse:

Never date a man who is violent in any way, shape, or form.  (outside of an athletic endeavour of course)


Never date a man who disrespects you by his words or actions. 

Do date the man who supports you in your own personal goals/life fulfillment plan.


Then again, it does show on the outside...not physically, but the victim is not going to be happy and that should be apparent to people who know you best.

...and Journey, sorry babe, it'a all science.   ;)  You (and everybody reading this) is a complex combination of nature and nurture. 

Vanir and Aesir. Giant and Ansur :)

Keep on posting I have been reading the 6 pages. Atari glad to help. How are things ?

Thanks for imputing in this thread. I am single again and said the things that pissed me off to the guy I was seeing, one of them being his over drinking not being cool but pathetic and I told him he is a looser.
He kind of got all worked up but I coudlnt care less as sex isn't everything and my needs come first.
He told me to get lost which is fine with me because I don't have it in me, I am neither relate or aa's ! LOL

Next

Forgive my complete and total confusion, but in a few days you went from this...



To this...


So...what am I missing here (besides the obvious potential for multiple personality disorder)?

A good Rick Allen joke.

I guess the adequateness wore off.

Well, this is what happens if someone's only cares of his own needs and if those needs always have to come first.

This "I'm a woman, worship me!" only works to some extent.

And, isn't everyone in France a drunk? I mean a few glasses of wine over the dinner, a few more over the supper and another bottle in the evening?

I wnt from being happy to feeling utter disgust looking at someone who has a real problem with alcohol.
I hadn't realized since it had been only a three months thing. I lived long years with a an alcoholic parent and will not ever date an alcoholic. Period.

French or foreign I only have pity for substance abusers and they are a waste of my time

Here's my advice - don't discuss the intimate details of your relationship with a bunch of people you've never met on a public message board. It will almost certainly drive your partner to drink.

...or Tap to post! ;D :rofl:

A bit egoistic but I support it 100%

The balance is to attack the alcoholic and the substance abuse without necesarily attacking the individual.




You don't mean living off of the productivity of men do you? :hihi:




Why not, outside cultures (as long as we have them) often give inspiration and guidance :peace:

I think someone in this thread should really try entering into their next relationship without a thesis.

I discuss where I want to and it's surely better here than at work.
What would drive him insane would be if I gave his identity.
Mind this I have no intention to dwell on it, or him.
I have much more important worries to take care of, and these will not be discussed anywhere.
You know what? When you treat people with respect, you get respect.
So if I overtalked of him, and if anyone here has the slightiest idea, it then means he did exactly the same.
Andthat is when I tell him I dedicate him the axl ' sorry' song.
Fits.

perhaps but some people do change u never know

That is what I told myself in multiple situations in my life being overly naive to a point of blank stupidity.
I wouldn't have ended up where I am if I had believed people don't change.
The ones who do are rare and they'd need to prove it because I am not going to believe anything just because it is said.

No offense, but you really come off as bat shit crazy.

Funnily enough. So I should kneel down and take a druggie or a drunk to be normal ?

Are you on crack ?

Okay, I'm trying to make sense of this thread... So...

Jessica fell in love or had a serious crush on a guy who drinks too much, but realized that she won't be able to date him anymore because of his problems. What's so f*cking crazy about that?

Besides, leaving a person with an addiction may be the only way you can help them realize that they have a serious problem. Even if you're the perfect girl/boyfriend, it's not gonna make them quit doing whatever it is that they're doing to themselves. At least not in most cases. You'll only end up hurting yourself.

Best post ever.

You know I'm sane, right?

She's my mentor.

Don't get me wrong, I love threads like this - a beacon of rule in a sea of suck. But the advice is about as useful as arm wrestling lessons from Rick Allen.

Hey now, Rick Allen would tear your arm off Right Handed.

Try harder.

Pretend you're engaged or something and just become friends with the other gender.

You probably going to expose a more true and relaxed side to the persons, families and friends.

Then you can still have a great time together-
- the option for something more is always there but if not you're still friends if you clicked. :peace:

Yes, I can't stand "dating"...

Jada the problem is not me but people looking into a mirror and overlooking a part of themselves they refuse tosee.
I think a lot of people have all sorts of isues and the man I dated chose to be so
Drunk he thought insulting me in public was justified.
He was insanely jealous for no reason and he is the one bat shit crazy because he is into open relationships and yet flies into fits of rage because men look at me. And this happens when he drinks. I saw him way over the limit.
If I hadn't told him, what would have been the next stage?
I don't want a madonna sean Penn thing.
I'd rather be single than with a wacko.

I am hyper sane.

Needy surely. I may take time switching from
One opinion to another but once I
Make up my
Mind there is no turning back.

HUH?

Yeah, same here.

Better to be alone than in bad company, pagan philosophy :peace:

I understand what Jessica is saying perfectly. Why is everyone else acting so daft?

In today's society, that's the "cool" thing to do. People some how think they're cool and such a great person if their drinking or taking drugs. It's that whole 'Party on dude!' mentality.  ::)

It's very pathetic!

When msaxl got married 19 years ago, her husband couldn't decide if he wanted to be a husband or a partyboy, so I helped him figure it out real quick.  When he came home intoxicated I litterally stood behind the front door with a broom, and beat the holy shit out of him with it each time.  Now let me tell you I am not psycho, or violent, but what I did no was that I was not going to live my life under those terms, he also figured it out fairly quick, have had zero trouble since. A relationship can be molded to fit each others needs, if indeed the relationship was truley meant to be, even if it takes a broom to get your point across. :yes:

Fucking cool.

Would you still think it was "Fucking cool" if she (or someone reading that and deciding to try the same method) got that broom ripped out of their hands and beaten back with it to the point of being harmed and hospitalized or killed by the intoxicated person??

My advice is to NEVER confront anyone while they are still intoxicated.  Get yourself to a safe place.
When they are sober, confront them IN A NON-VIOLENT manner. 

I don't know about psycho, but I think I must differ on your assessment of yourself as not violent.  :hihi:

It was cool that she was able to handle her man and she helped him change his ways.

Perhaps I was a bit vague.

Not sure about the broom beating tactic but glad that all worked out in the end.

I was a little turned on.

Me too dude, women can be pretty sexy when they're angry.

I want to take a broom to Norway ;D

A plane would be easier unless you're the wicked witch of the west  :)

You're a-getting it.

An abusive person is abusive, sober or non-sober. Being nice and non provoking towards an abuser a lot of times comes across to them that your trying to antagonize and/or manipulate them. I'd say get yourself to a safe place and be rid of the abuser for good.

This is why no one should get with an abuser.
I lived with one, and I saw clear signs in the man I had been dating on off for three months that he was a potential one too.
Life is about teachings and not doing the same mistakes.
Before having to be in a situation where one has to find a safe place.

Granted, today would I have handled it differently, absolutely, but I don't have to worry about that now, I cured that behavior years ago be it right or wrong.  He is lucky it was only a broom.  You could say it was abusive, but so were his party ethics he vowed to not frequent on the day of our wedding, I believed in him, and greatfully enough I still do : ok:

so true if there not with u there against u when it comes to that stuff

good 1

:hihi: good one...substitute the 'w' with a 'b' and I am all in! :-*

I thought you were from the great white North.

Just what are you hiding?  :nervous:

I am and if you don't stop asking question, I will send some snow to freeze your ass...just when you thought you were getting warm ;D

now i think the only advice i can give her is to fallow your heart

I don't have a heart any more as all what is left of it is for my son :hihi:

More seriously, heart speaks Chinese and makes me do ridiculous things.

I'd rather listen to my brain now.

Ok now I have a funny one:

I have a good peripheral view and guess what?

Mister I drink too much and got all worked up hides in corners to look at me when I am around.
He pretends but not very well.

Just the hysterics of the day :hihi:

I'm an astronaut.

Ground control to Major headcase

ha, holy shit man.

I'm serious guys LOL the girlfriend I was with noticed too LOL

maby he was just nervous some men have no problem with it some do just like with people in war some people can do it well and some just cant play the part of god and kill there enemy

gawd...I need a drink.. ::)

Are u sure that would be strong enough??

Bombay sapphic  ;D

Knew something was up :

Had a huge love declaration from him...

Sigh

who? from Tap?

or the drunken stalker/menage dude?

there's a difference?

what was I thinking? :-X

Huge in what sense?

Straight to the point sense
And more

The rest I now keep to myself...
Out of respect for both of us

Whatever was said or decided, or not, doesn't belong anywhere public

Every abusive alcoholic swinger deserves his privacy. But give us a hint at least - did it involve completion and his rugby club?

A hint? Seems like sometimes people care enough to mend

How about you write out the whole thing in blanks and we play hangman?

ooooh I love hangman!

Off topic, I have been genetically modified to shoot chunky blanks. Clean up is a breeze now.

(If anybody is scoring at home.)

Why is that off topic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWHg76raI4k&feature=related

Pardon?

ok, I have one. I've been in a relationship for several years and just discovered my partner is a figment of my imagination. Who should I call?

a. A web host.
b. A lawyer.
c. Rick Allen.

C and then D-Dr. Phil, so you can get it all worked out on the TV.

Somebody sue me, please.

Yes, but the real question is, how many chairs?

i know what your sayin all 2 well

You two communicate on a higher plane.

Are you saying they're basically in their own mile-high club?  (higher plane ;))  Yeah, I went there.  :hihi:

4.

High, no doubt.  Not so sure about any planes being involved though.

Who are the other 3 for?

D _ s _ _ c _ _ _ e

High as a kite maybe.

Dio should write a song about this thread.

High on emotion ;D

You? or the proposed title for a song?

Dio doesn't do high. He has to stand on a chair to do medium.

certainly hope he doesn't fall back onto a potato ;D

I'd worry about the potato

"It was a one in a million shot doc."

So, does anyone else need some advice?  :D

She doesn't like me, because my blue balls don't match her purse!

My purse is black, a few swift kicks and I can get you to match mine.

Make me laugh!! :rofl: :rofl:

no we both had to deal with our own kind of ?things? with finding our own ?lover in a world that?s much to dark"

Can I borrow your broom? ;)

Absolutely, would you like the blue one or the black one?

^ the black one ;D obviously then match the purse AND the balls! :hihi:

The balls have a rental fee attached.

7 years and 2.2 kids.

Another advice to many men is to never try become the pervert fetish or whatever the new kink of women would be.

Represent yourself, be real as long as it's healthy and sane.
In the long run the truth and whats real is better to live with, than lies and shallow charracters. : ok:

Ok this evening a guy came running after me as I was walking home with my son and gave me his tel number
He has the cutest smile...

To call or not to call?

Not. I don't think we're ready for any more drama yet.

Fantastic advice. You don't meet many women do you.

Oh yes, "don't be a sicko pervert"

 :rofl:

We're still waiting on the finale with the drunken swinger dude!  Don't confuse us with new people!

Well what about the stalker/child molester guy too? I'm confused now....

Running, cute smile guy sounds kind of boring in comparison.

Maybe Warchild's lawyer could chime in on the legal ramifications that this thread has morphed into. I wouldn't want to face any legal action.  :hihi:

SLC, I'm reading your posts, and trust me...you won't be seeing any kind of "action" any time soon!  Illegal or legal.   :hihi:

Then maybe the "relationship advice" thread isn't where he should be! ;D

How about the ass fucking finn thread?

That's a shame really.

Got enough adorers to put it that way and the advice is dead on imo.