The VMA Rehersals

[C0ma]

GNR management don't want vegas to be out.
we're not talking about some concert in 87 or something.
GNR might not care about old shows, but they do care about the post-2001 stuff.

so trying to release / share / trade vegas 01 wouldnt be a nice move from a GNR fan.

so velvet1223, you release the rehearsal if you want, and just be nice. but don't try to get vegas if you're a real gnr fan axl might no be pleased

Maybe the stupidest thing I've read in a while.............
Don't look for Vegas because it might upset Axl???
Who really cares, what's it going to do? slaow down the release of CD...

[pilferk]

IF Vegas exists, just remember, it's not a bootleg (which is a grey area, legally).? It's a copyrighted, pro-shot, almost released DVD.? Trafficing in such is NOT a grey area, legally.

Just wanted to point that out to both the participants in the discussion (who are providing evidence of collusion to distribute and traffic in copyrighted material with the posts on this board) and the mods, who generally don't allow discussion of trading copyrighted material.



I'm definitely not trying to be a "buzzkill", but I'd hate to see anyone say something here that could get them into hot water.

[jarmo]

Yeah, this isn't your ordinary audience shot bootleg DVD.


It wasn't stolen from the band (like Oklahoma, Chicago and the soundboards from 2002).

So you're basically looking for something the record company was gonna put out, but decided not to. You're not looking for a taper, you're looking for somebody who might have access to get it from the record company.

I don't think it's hard to figure out what would happen to the person who steals the DVD and puts it out as a bootleg.




/jarmo

[Jim Bob]

As interesting as the VMA rehearsal footage would be, I really don't believe that someone who could have Vegas would see that as a "equal" trade/match. Vegas 01-01-01 marks the beginning of the 'new'-Guns era and is a pro-shot, pro-authored, ready-to-go release full concert... it's kinda regarded as the holy-grail amongst fans of GN'R gig bootlegs.

I never really understood the big exitement about the Vegas show, sure its the first "new gnr" show and yes its one of the few "recent" shows where we wouldnt have to cringe to Axl's braids but I would think a show like Inglewood 91 or a complete un-edited A++ Buenos Aires 1993 would be 10000000 times better.

And to the dude with the rehearsals from mtv 2002, I dont really think you'll get anything worthwile for that. Share it 

are you joking?  have you heard the vegas show?  its one of the best GNR shows EVER.   We have plenty of footage from the old band, i want to see some new shit.

[Will]

Yeah guys, that's basically what I've been saying since the beginning.

1- It is NOT out there, NO ONE has it, especially in American and European trading circles - don't listen to urban legends.
2- The ONLY way to get it is to know someone who has access to Universal Japan's vaults and would want to release to the GN'R bootleg community, which is almost impossible.
3- This is an almost released pro-shot and nothing comes even close in trading value, 10 rehearsal DVDs won't be enough. Unless a japanese bootleg company releases it, we won't see it, period.

Unless you get in some dark japanese trading circle that only trades for such rarities, there's no way it will get into GN'R fans hands.

Bessam, the management does not want ANY GN'R show to come out, period. Come on, Geffen had to fuckin force the band to release Tokyo (which is crap, compared to the rest of the Illusion tour - hello, L.A Forum and MSG shows!). Without Geffen, there would be no GN'R concert DVDs today.

As for Vegas, unless the band decides to release it, you can tell good bye to that DVD. Unless we are extremely lucky, a leak happens and a japanese bootleg company manages to release it - even though Universal Japan would hunt them down and sue their ass. Again, I'd be more than happy to see someone is getting close to getting it, but unless we see screenshots or clips, to me it's not happening. Just my 2 cents.

[Neemo]

i have this but i doubt it is what all the commotion is about. In fact most of you have probably seen it. anyway for those who haven't.

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34QU89TMJ5H933ABLO6ZKLGL3V

[Christos AG]

GNR management don't want vegas to be out.
we're not talking about some concert in 87 or something.
GNR might not care about old shows, but they do care about the post-2001 stuff.

so trying to release / share / trade vegas 01 wouldnt be a nice move from a GNR fan.

so velvet1223, you release the rehearsal if you want, and just be nice. but don't try to get vegas if you're a real gnr fan axl might no be pleased

How would you know all that?

[Will]

He was at a brunch with Merck last week, sipping mimosas in a Paris Rive Gauche cafe.

[pilferk]

i have this but i doubt it is what all the commotion is about. In fact most of you have probably seen it. anyway for those who haven't.

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34QU89TMJ5H933ABLO6ZKLGL3V

Neemo,
   I think what velvet probably has is the raw MTV footage that was used to cull that spot together....at least, that's what I suspect.   Because, as you say, the spot from the MTV VMA Preview Weekend from '03 (and '04 and probably ''05) isn't all that rare.

   I've SEEN the raw footage of the rehersals, but don't actually have a copy of it, so I know it exists.  Wouldn't have been hard for an MTV intern or staffer to get it "out there" at all.

[Neemo]

i have this but i doubt it is what all the commotion is about. In fact most of you have probably seen it. anyway for those who haven't.

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34QU89TMJ5H933ABLO6ZKLGL3V

Neemo,
? ?I think what velvet probably has is the raw MTV footage that was used to cull that spot together....at least, that's what I suspect.? ?Because, as you say, the spot from the MTV VMA Preview Weekend from '03 (and '04 and probably ''05) isn't all that rare.

? ?I've SEEN the raw footage of the rehersals, but don't actually have a copy of it, so I know it exists.? Wouldn't have been hard for an MTV intern or staffer to get it "out there" at all.

That's what i figured pilferk but i thought i'd upload it anyway for those who haven't seen it.  Just upload it Velvet, what's the big deal?

[elmir]

Wasn't RIR3 also officially filmed and scheduled for a release and then got pulled?
This piece is for sale on ebay.

Regardless of whether it was planned for release by the GNR management or not, reselling professionally filmed footage without the broadcasters permission is bad enough on its own.

Home made videos are ok I suppose.

I don't get the point here. Some guy here has access to 'secret' GNR footage and doesn't want to share it with everyone. Instead he'd rather sell it and make a quick buck off it. As well as, he's after the Vegas New Years Eve show, which he reckons could pull in big cash on ebay. Isn't this illegal? Why is he allowed to promote him/herself here on this forum?

Am I right, or did I misunderstand the thread? Apologies if I jumped to conclusions and offended anyone.

[Will]

Wasn't RIR3 also officially filmed and scheduled for a release and then got pulled?

No, Rio was never scheduled for release. Only Vegas was.

Velvet don't want to make big bucks with the Rehearsals or Vegas, he basically just wants to trade Rehearsals for Vegas, which is not going to happen - because no one has Vegas, you can't trade something you don't have. It's like asking for the Madison Square Garden 91 pro-shot, or whatever other unsurfaced pro shot in Axl's vault. Sure, it's in some vault, but no one's getting it.

[chineseblues]

nevermind!!!! delete this post please!

[Mr. Redman]

Yeah, I've heard that aswell CB.

[chineseblues]

Yeah, I've heard that aswell CB.

shhhh the gypsies will get you for that!

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

He was at a brunch with Merck last week, sipping mimosas in a Paris Rive Gauche cafe.

azhahahah
no i just heard things ....

i mean come on. it's not hard to understand. we all knew vegas was supposed to be released.
and maybe GNR wants to release it after all. i don't know.
but one thing sure is that it is not a fan bootleg that we can share and trade freely. this is serious copyrighted stuff.

so i don't know ...

[tippasaurus]

http://community.webshots.com/album/421916950RnukSD

These were posted somewhere else...but I have a question:  Is the dude with the big white guitar buckethead? 

[WARose]

where are the pics with axl throwing roses from? is it a full concert?

[pilferk]

where are the pics with axl throwing roses from? is it a full concert?

Not ALL the pics on that page are from the rehersals.  Some are from other MTV rarities.  The "Axl throwing roses" pic is from, I think, a 92-93 era show...not sure which one, exactly.

[velvet1223]

I pic of Axl throwing roses is from Houston, TX 92, Met/Guns tour.