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« on: November 19, 2005, 02:42:48 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/17/AR2005111701735.html

The Army has suspended plans to expand an unwieldy, 16-month-old
program to call up inactive soldiers for military duty, after
thousands have requested delays or exemptions or failed to show up.
Despite intense pressure to fill manpower gaps, Army Secretary Francis
J. Harvey said the Army has no plans for any further call-up of the
Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) beyond the current level of about 6,500
soldiers. The IRR is a pool of about 115,000 trained soldiers who have
left active-duty or reserve units for civilian life, but remain
subject to call-up for a set period.

The Army also announced, in a memo released this week, that it will no
longer involuntarily mobilize from the IRR an estimated 15,000 Army
officers who have already completed their eight years of required
military duty, stating that under a new policy it will offer them a
chance to resign instead.

Poor records management has hampered the Army's efforts to draw on the
pool, intended to fill holes in existing Army units, Harvey told
defense reporters last week.

Since June 2004, the Army has begun mobilizing 6,535 people from the
IRR. Of those, about 3,300 have reported for duty, and 1,450 have been
granted exemptions on medical and other grounds, according to Army
figures from October. The Army is trying to locate more than 400 who
were supposed to report by October but have not.

Stretched thin by the war in Iraq, the Army began calling up IRR
soldiers last year for the first time since the 1991 Persian Gulf War
to meet its growing manpower needs. The Army taps the IRR for
replacement troops and to bring undermanned units to full strength.

Officials said a year ago that they anticipated a similar dip into the
IRR in 2005, but the Army is struggling to complete the first group.

"It's profoundly irritating to me. It's not good management," Harvey
said. The Army said it has lacked resources to modernize its IRR
record-keeping. Harvey said an initiative is underway to allow the
Army to better track IRR members and how much time they have left to
serve.

IRR call-ups -- in the form of Western Union Mailgrams -- have arrived
as a welcome call to duty for some former soldiers and as a shock to
others, many of whom have been out of uniform for years.

More than 3,000 of all those facing mobilization have asked for delays
or exemptions, which have been granted so far primarily on the grounds
of illness or the need to care for family members, but also because of
financial hardship. Others have contested the call-ups on legal
grounds.

One of the most contentious issues involves thousands of Army officers
who have completed their eight years of military duty but have been
kept in the reserve pool indefinitely because they have not formally
resigned their commissions -- a requirement some officers say they
knew nothing of.

Paul Davison, a 1995 West Point graduate, served six years as an
infantry officer and two more in the IRR, ending in 2003. Now a
freelance television producer, he thought there was some mistake three
weeks ago when he opened the mailbox at his apartment on New York's
Upper East Side and pulled out orders summoning him to report for
training and deployment to Iraq.

The next day, Davison, 32, dialed a phone number printed on the
Mailgram to correct the error, giving a clerk his Social Security
number.

"You're still in," he recalled the clerk telling him.

"No, I'm out," Davison replied.

"You're in."

"It was the most shocking, stressful, horrible thing," Davison said.

Davison and several of his West Point classmates were among about 800
people issued mobilization orders in the Army's latest batch of IRR
call-ups between August and November, said Sgt. 1st Class Keith
O'Donnell, spokesman for the Army's Human Resources Command in St.
Louis.

Together with his classmates, Davison badgered mobilization officials
and scoured the Internet looking for a way out of the predicament. One
officer discovered a new clause in a July 16, 2005, Pentagon directive
that in effect forbids the Army from keeping officers in the IRR
against their will once their time is up.

"Dude! I think we've got the smoking gun!" the classmate said
excitedly in a phone call to Davison earlier this month.

Initially, Army officials argued that the new policy did not apply to
their cases. So Davison and his classmates hired a lawyer, who last
week advised the Army of his intent to seek a restraining order.
Meanwhile, the Army issued an interim memo to implement the new
policy.

"Effective immediately the Army will cease mobilization of officers
beyond their MSO [military service obligation] unless they positively
elect to remain in the IRR," states the memo, which the Army provided
to The Washington Post.

On Nov. 10, Davison got a call from an official at the Army's Human
Resources Command offering him a chance to resign. "My ordeal is
over," said Davison, who was scheduled to report for duty at Fort
Jackson, S.C., on Nov. 13.

But for others, the shift came too late. The Army will allow officers
who fall under the policy to resign if they are still in the United
States. But if they have already left for Iraq or other assignments,
they will have to stay for the entire deployment. "If they have
already been deployed, they'll be required to fulfill the terms of
their mobilization orders," said Lt. Col. Bryan Hilferty, an Army
personnel spokesman.



i guess the cornor has finaly turned
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2005, 03:28:14 PM »

Looks like Uncle Sam needs help in Vietnam...er...I mean Iraq.

On this forum, without a doubt, there are about 4 of the most patriotic men I could think of. I wonder why they sit back and read this, and not go over to Iraq to help our country fight terror? Instead they sit behind their computer, in the safety of their homes, while calling others cowards and traitors for not supporting the illegal invasion of an oil rich country.

The US Army needs you guys more than ever. So I ask: Why aren't you going to Iraq to rebuild a nation, and spread democracy.? After all, you will be greeted as liberators.
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2005, 05:38:20 PM »

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The US Army needs you guys more than ever. So I ask: Why aren't you going to Iraq to rebuild a nation, and spread democracy.? After all, you will be greeted as liberators.

I certainly am not the most patiotic man ever.  However, I know that the day we leave (if it is too soon) the innocents will be slaughtered without mercy just like in Vietnam.  I think we need to attempt to win some kind of peace before just up and leaving.  If we can't we can't, but just leaving now would be a disaster for everyone.  So now I have to go over there and fight for the cause, because I dare to have those thoughts.  Your logic is messed up.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2005, 05:39:45 PM »

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Instead they sit behind their computer, in the safety of their homes, while calling others cowards and traitors for not supporting the illegal invasion of an oil rich country.

I have never called anyone a traitor.  I debate facts, I don't call people names (at least I try).
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2005, 07:34:34 PM »

In many wars, the people who were called traitors ended up being the good guys while patriotic soldiers were asked, in martial courts or various courts of law, about their actions.

And ended up thanked with prison for their " patriotism".

The germans never questionned patrotism. In the 1930's.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2005, 07:59:24 PM »

Looks like Uncle Sam needs help in Vietnam...er...I mean Iraq.

On this forum, without a doubt, there are about 4 of the most patriotic men I could think of. I wonder why they sit back and read this, and not go over to Iraq to help our country fight terror? Instead they sit behind their computer, in the safety of their homes, while calling others cowards and traitors for not supporting the illegal invasion of an oil rich country.

The US Army needs you guys more than ever. So I ask: Why aren't you going to Iraq to rebuild a nation, and spread democracy.? After all, you will be greeted as liberators.

Bingo. Funny how Dick N' Bush, Rummy, and Rove, all the halks have never seen combat.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2005, 09:07:35 PM »

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The germans never questionned patrotism. In the 1930's.

Oh great, more comparisons to Nazi Germany.

That never gets old or taken out of context.    Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2005, 11:44:17 PM »

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The germans never questionned patrotism. In the 1930's.

Oh great, more comparisons to Nazi Germany.

That never gets old or taken out of context.? ? Roll Eyes

actualy the portrail of this one is a rather accurate understanding of what occured... it was a massive nationalist movement hat happened..... and well there was a massive nationalist movent occuring here.. in the US and canada. now distrust of federal govermetns is truning that tide back a bit as a whole the countries are not ready for sucha a movemnt that can occur from it.... checks and balences!

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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2005, 01:38:49 AM »



I have never called anyone a traitor. I debate facts, I don't call people names (at least I try).

I was not referring to you.



Bingo. Funny how Dick N' Bush, Rummy, and Rove, all the halks have never seen combat.


Right again. As long as it is not their life and limb, they will ship 'em out to die. Even more funny was seeing Murtha rip those liars a new one the other day. He's an ex-marine too.
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