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Title: HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: jazjme on March 27, 2004, 12:42:06 AM
I know people have seen the GNR commercial, but damn I just saw it for the first time.........and you wanna know where................I'll Tell you ................on Fox News Network,,,,,,,,,,,,for 15.98       and a # to call to order and you get a free poster.................LOL.............fucking on Fox..........that just blew me away.............though I like the promo..........................BUT FOX???        I wouldnt have believed it...except I saw it during the O'riely factor here in the US.

PS .......FAIR AND BALANCED MY ASS!


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Is he struggling? on March 27, 2004, 04:28:22 AM
So, why exactly would Fox NOT show a G n' R Commercial?


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Billo on March 27, 2004, 06:01:30 AM
Can someone put these Ads up to download....Im from Australia ans havent seen any?? where can i download it from?? : ok:


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: bill213 on March 27, 2004, 08:45:33 AM
I saw it on Comedy Central last night during south park.......it opened with the chords to jungle \m/


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on March 27, 2004, 11:01:46 AM
I know people have seen the GNR commercial, but damn I just saw it for the first time.........and you wanna know where................I'll Tell you ................on Fox News Network,,,,,,,,,,,,for 15.98       and a # to call to order and you get a free poster.................LOL.............fucking on Fox..........that just blew me away.............though I like the promo..........................BUT FOX???        I wouldnt have believed it...except I saw it during the O'riely factor here in the US.

PS .......FAIR AND BALANCED MY ASS!

Maybe you`d have rather seen the GH promo on CNN? The most biased new organization on the air.



Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on March 27, 2004, 11:02:41 AM
News, not new.  ::)


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Psycho on March 27, 2004, 03:51:52 PM
i dont like many news shows but i do like oreilly, cnn is just unwatchable and so is most of msnbc


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Insomnis on March 27, 2004, 04:45:50 PM
you can see the tv spot here:
http://www.umusic.dk/universal/tvspots.asp#


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: jazjme on March 27, 2004, 06:42:49 PM
Actually I was just shocked to see any muic being promoted on news channels like fox because the only cd promotions I havve seen on the station usually is some lame country woman. SInging the likes of......I believe in angels.......ladadee shit.


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: True Believer on March 27, 2004, 09:55:53 PM
Fox "News"  is litte more than a mouthpeice for the Bush administration and the corporations that control your life.  

I watch it all the time just to keep up with the lies that Americans are being Fed.  O'Reily is a riot.  So ridiculous.  

GnR shouldn't be advertising on the propoganda channel.  But since the GH cd isn't being handled by the band, i'd be amazed if they were picking the networks to advertize on.  The marketing company is probably just doing a numbers game - picking whichever networks they can afford to hit their target audience.  Too bad Fox is one of them.

I hope Chinese Democracy is so political that O'Reily calls for one of his hillarious boycotts.


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: HoldenCaulfield on March 27, 2004, 10:25:48 PM
Hey, I like Fox News. Sean Hannity is the man. But hey, they get a buck for advertising, they could care less.


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Rocket_queen125 on March 27, 2004, 11:53:14 PM
actually i love fox news its the only news channel that isnt so liberal that even ted kennedy wouldnt have to turn to see it.  im have a weird feeling that axl might be a conservative because of his veiws on homosexuals and emmigrants, well i hope so atleast cause im a Bush fan and people need to get it through theire small mind that this damn war in iraq is not about oil FYI We buy 6% of are oil from the middle east 71% from venezealla* and 13% is produced here. so to the idiots/liberals that believe this war is about oil need to pull there head out of there ass and see the big picture and realize that this war is about protecting the rights and freedoms of americans and sending a great message to the terrorist that if you fuck with us we will hit you back hard.  Welcome to the Jungle Baby


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: chineseilusions on March 28, 2004, 12:24:41 AM
I have seen the promo twice on ESPN classics


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Sukie on March 28, 2004, 12:45:02 AM
Obviously, I don't watch enough tv...  I even watched MTV for a while today thinking I'd see some kind of ad, but no...torture for nothing.  Who would have thought I should have watched a news channel instead?   :hihi:


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: POPmetal on March 28, 2004, 01:14:40 AM
Fox "News"  is litte more than a mouthpeice for the Bush administration and the corporations that control your life.  

I watch it all the time just to keep up with the lies that Americans are being Fed.  O'Reily is a riot.  So ridiculous.  

GnR shouldn't be advertising on the propoganda channel.  But since the GH cd isn't being handled by the band, i'd be amazed if they were picking the networks to advertize on.  The marketing company is probably just doing a numbers game - picking whichever networks they can afford to hit their target audience.  Too bad Fox is one of them.

I hope Chinese Democracy is so political that O'Reily calls for one of his hillarious boycotts.


Actually, considering that Axl criticized China for being one of the most oppressive regimes out there and CD is critical of the China's totalitarian regime, chances are that O'Reilly would like the message. If anything, the communist pigs in the rest of the media, especially in the music industry, are much more likely to be against Gn'R. The music industry is like fuckin' communism cuz there's only five big record companies who act like an oligopoly and  MTV has no real competition to speak of. That's why they can get away with all this garbage that's popular right now. Too bad there's no one to boycott the music industry.


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: ccorn69 on March 28, 2004, 06:05:26 PM
whats the problem with the GH promo being on FOX news, its all about promotion for universal music group and they know that GNR fans are many and that they have broad taste, there are conservative voting GOP GNR fans, like me, who love orielly and Hanity and who support the war and their are GNR fans that dont support the war, and will vote against bush because they are to the left of the political spectrum.  thats ok folks, thats how it is here in america its called freedom. freedom to be from the left, freedom to be from the right.  now back to the promo fox will carry it because its money in the bank, universal has to pay for it to be caried by fox and fox will say yes, as for Axl's political views i dont think we should try and guess them, but whatever i personally dont give a fuck if hes from the left or the right just like pearl jam eddie is far left and i still listen and love their music even though im far right.  all right kids later y'all

peace :peace:


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Danny on March 28, 2004, 06:11:23 PM
National commercials like the one for GH are sent to cable conglomerates who locally fit them into their local affiliated cable stations when they have time.  They usually try to fit the commercial's target market with the highest rated type of audience group of the program that the commercial is being played on.  Sometimes that can't be done, however and the commercial just has to be fit on the channel and show available.

However, in this case I would say they did a pretty good job.  O'reily has an audience that is a very much male 25-45 range.  With that, there is a better chance that adult men would want to purchase a GNR Greatest Hits CD then the younger, teenie-bopper crowd that is more prevelant with MTV veiwership.

And since we're sort of talking politics here too, I'd just like to say that John Kerry is a tool.




Banny


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: jazjme on March 28, 2004, 07:40:55 PM
al valdi arguments I must say...........in my mind I too also thought that they were tageting the 25+ male veiwers and I guess in a way it was effective, never thought I would see it like that but hey .learn something everyday :peace:


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Axl_owns_dexter on March 28, 2004, 11:18:02 PM
I kind of like the idea of Axl doing the whole Chinese Democracy thing.  For once, a rock band that calls a spade a spade.  Most rock bands ignore the real oppressive regimes and just whine about the US government.  Although, Axl has always been one to call a spade a spade, which can get him in trouble.

BTW, about the Iraq thing.  You people realize that there will be a civil war in that country as soon as the majority of US troops leave.  There are different ethnic groups that have been fighting for centuries and the only reason they didn't for the past 30 years is because Hussein ruled that country with an iron fist.  Just like Tito did in Yugoslavia.  Once he dies, and then communism falls what you do you get?  The people in those slavic countries are still fighting today.  So don't be so upbeat about Iraq being about protecting our freedom.  That place is going to turn to hell once we leave.


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: POPmetal on March 29, 2004, 12:19:38 AM
I kind of like the idea of Axl doing the whole Chinese Democracy thing.  For once, a rock band that calls a spade a spade.  Most rock bands ignore the real oppressive regimes and just whine about the US government.  Although, Axl has always been one to call a spade a spade, which can get him in trouble.
can't agree more  : ok:

BTW, about the Iraq thing.  You people realize that there will be a civil war in that country as soon as the majority of US troops leave.  There are different ethnic groups that have been fighting for centuries and the only reason they didn't for the past 30 years is because Hussein ruled that country with an iron fist.  Just like Tito did in Yugoslavia.  Once he dies, and then communism falls what you do you get?  The people in those slavic countries are still fighting today.  So don't be so upbeat about Iraq being about protecting our freedom.  That place is going to turn to hell once we leave.

Some very good points, but...
Slovenia is already doing pretty well.
Croatia isn't far behind.
Yes, Kosovo is a problem area that has to be handled carefully. It is crucial that economic problems are solved. Once the area becomes prosperous, people are gonna get over their old quarrels. But this will take a long time and it's important to NATO maintains its presence there to keep trouble from brewing. Regardless of all that, what's important is that most Serbian people would much rather have the problems they do now, than to go back to communist slavery.

As for Iraq, it could all turn to hell, but there are also promising signs. If they try to start fighting, I don't think the US will just sit back and let it go on, even if Kerry is president. People were also saying that Afghanistan would never work as a democracy, but, so far, it's not going all that bad. Sure, there are incidents all the time, but no one ever said it's gonna be easy. It takes a lot of patience and persistence.


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Axl_owns_dexter on March 29, 2004, 12:43:45 AM
About Afghanistan.

The US only really controls the capital city of Kabul.  Outside of that, the old war lords control the country.  Also, President Karzai has to have about 20 US bodyguards constantly around him because of all the attempts on his life.  That country isn't looking so good right now.



Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: POPmetal on March 29, 2004, 12:54:15 AM
About Afghanistan.

The US only really controls the capital city of Kabul.  Outside of that, the old war lords control the country.  Also, President Karzai has to have about 20 US bodyguards constantly around him because of all the attempts on his life.  That country isn't looking so good right now.



It's not looking so good, but it's looking better than it was under the Taliban. Like I said, it's not gonna happen overnight, there's gonna be a lot of bumps on the road, and it's going to be really difficult, but if the US sticks with it and doesn't leave the job half done, it will work out.


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: Axl_owns_dexter on March 29, 2004, 12:59:15 AM
We only have 11,000 troops there compared to the 100+ thousand in Iraq.  The distraction in Iraq was the death of the Afghan campaign.  


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: POPmetal on March 29, 2004, 01:12:56 AM
We only have 11,000 troops there compared to the 100+ thousand in Iraq.  The distraction in Iraq was the death of the Afghan campaign.  

The US military has over a million soldiers (I think 1,400,000 was the number). The reason for which there are only 11,000 troops in Afghanistan is because the army doesn't think more are necessary. The army can easily dump 500,000 troops in Afghanistan (while also dealing with Iraq), but that would A) provide more targets of opportunity for terrorists, and B) congest the process of going after them. A larger military force does not necessarily mean a more efficient one.
The war in Iraq did not in any way hinder the war in Afghanistan. That's just rhetoric that certain politicians are throwing around for their own personal gain, but there are no facts behind it.


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: kockstar99 on March 29, 2004, 01:57:22 AM
who cares if you saw it on Fox channel... I saw it on alot of channels... I didnt start a new thread for each channel it was on....

I saw it on ESPN....OH MY god!! thats sooo fucked up!!! they are only suppoesed to air sports things!!! ohhhhhhhh god!!!! the conspiracy!!!!!

who cares...you pay for the air time you can sell almost anything you want as long as its decent and not porn...


Title: Re:HOw fucked up is this!(this is a funny thing) FOX is to pro Bush
Post by: jazjme on March 29, 2004, 01:25:17 PM
damn man take a chill, I just thought it odd, and I could see epsn, and music channels but you dont have to get all shitty about it. :hihi: