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Title: Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: TWOIFBYSEA02 on March 22, 2004, 01:41:17 PM
http://www.teletext.co.uk/entertainment/generic.asp?slot=543&page=1&ref=540

Mick Wall interview: talks about being named in Get In The Ring !

How CD will never come out..

good read.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: holidayidol on March 22, 2004, 01:44:03 PM
Perhaps he's trying to give Axl a last-minute reason to mention him again.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: TWOIFBYSEA02 on March 22, 2004, 01:56:03 PM
Jarmo.....this is what i emailed you today but realized it might have been a broken link....it's fixed.

Oh yes and moderating team.

I also realized it's posted in the wrong section....

feel free to move it

Cheers !


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: kujo722 on March 22, 2004, 01:56:18 PM
If the writer of this article couldn't get a simple album release date correct, you have to wonder how many other things are incorrect.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: 5thofwhiskey on March 22, 2004, 02:04:26 PM
Interesting that Disney owns the right to the book. Wonder who owns the rights to Sugarman's book. Put these two together and you have one hell of a movie.

 :hihi:


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: AC on March 22, 2004, 02:22:11 PM
This guy sounds like a loser.

AA.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: DazRose85 on March 22, 2004, 02:22:20 PM
Interesting how he mentions he's heard some of the new material. Makes me wonder how he *actually* got the opportunity, since he and Axl arn't exactly the best of friends.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: jarmo on March 22, 2004, 02:27:40 PM
Interesting how he mentions he's heard some of the new material. Makes me wonder how he *actually* got the opportunity, since he and Axl arn't exactly the best of friends.


Maybe he went to a show or downloaded them just like the rest of us?



/jarmo


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on March 22, 2004, 02:29:32 PM
that loser is still crying about axl making him look lake a moron. i feel sorry for that prick


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: AC on March 22, 2004, 02:42:24 PM
I'd like to know what Mick Wall has contributed musically in his life, not including when he sings happy birthday to himself because he has no friends.

AA.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: erose on March 22, 2004, 02:44:48 PM
he has some good points tho. amazing how big gn'r made him...


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Pandora on March 22, 2004, 03:20:05 PM
Just another opportunity for Mick Wall to have his name mentioned in the media and an opportunity for us to see he doesn't know shit.
This guy is so full of himself it's incredible  :confused:   Axl probably hasn't had a thought for you in the last 10 years Mick, do us a favour and crawl back to your cave  :hihi:


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Hammer1 on March 22, 2004, 03:39:27 PM
You don't hear people mention other artists that are out of the public eye half as much as they mention AXL, Which leads me to believe that these people are desperately waiting for his return.

I think these people who refrence Axl all the time can't wait for him to emerge!!!!


 : ok:


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: The Michelin-Man on March 22, 2004, 03:43:45 PM
mick wall sucks... he's a loser first class!  :hihi:


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: John Daniels on March 22, 2004, 03:57:58 PM
althought this is a GN'R board with loads of GN'R fans we should take this interview neutrally. There are a few points that stands out and that you can't really deny..

for examble this:

"Most people in the business cannot be bothered with him any more. All the people who cared about Axl at the start are gone from his entourage. He is his own worst enemy."

these lines aren't truly a talk by a bitter man..I mean, we know how many bridges Axl has burnt in his life. I'm just hoping that there will be that strong songs made by Axl that can take over all the damage that Axl has caused in the past.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on March 22, 2004, 04:11:14 PM
Somehow I doubt Mick Wall would have been one of the priviledged few to hear Chinese Democracy.... :hihi:


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Rocket_queen125 on March 22, 2004, 04:48:25 PM
when i hear the name Mick Wall two things come to mind - 5 gal bucket of hand lotion + and the undescribable noise of hist fist hitn his crotch


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Izzy on March 22, 2004, 04:53:54 PM
We all know Axl's views on Mr. Wall.....

no love lost there...




Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: ccorn69 on March 22, 2004, 05:34:02 PM
Fuck Mick Wall :rant:


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: SwedeChildO'Mine on March 22, 2004, 05:46:45 PM
I hate Mick Wall,

but I'm afraid he's right.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: providman on March 22, 2004, 05:47:18 PM
Man, what a bunch of crybabies.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: cubsfan77 on March 22, 2004, 06:05:46 PM
If Mick Wall and Axl hate each other so much, how the fuck did he hear tracks from Chinese Democracy? No one has been able to hear these tracks and somehow this moron hears them? He probably heard the Blues and Madgascar, like everyone else. What a major league douchebag Mick Wall is!


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: R4tfink on March 22, 2004, 06:20:42 PM
All the Axl bullshit aside, Mick Wall is a fantastic Rock and Roll journalist.

And even if he is bitter, i think there are elements of truth in there.

Axl has burnt a lot of bridges in the past and theres no sign that he is about to stop soon.



Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: metallex78 on March 22, 2004, 06:29:15 PM
Spaghetti Incident released in 1995 was it?????

More like 1993.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Continental Drift on March 22, 2004, 07:21:56 PM
I take issue (and always have) with the idea that a certain piece of music would have been AWESOME five years ago but would somehow be dated and bland today. I could never be convinced in a million years that if Sweet Child O' Mine or Kashmir (Zeplin) or Ruby Tuesday (Stones) or Back in Black (ACDC) were to be released for the first time tomorrow... they wouldn't hit number 1 within 3-4 weeks. Either a piece of rock music is THAT good or it was never good at all. This isn't N'SYNC we're talkin' about here. So, if Mick did by chance hear some of Axl's music in 98-99 that he thought was "pretty good"... chances are it STILL is "pretty good"... why? BECAUSE IT IS AND FOREVER WILL BE GOOD.

That being said, I have to say that I share Wall's skepticism about CD ever seeing the light of day unfortunately. :no:


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Sukie on March 22, 2004, 07:39:49 PM
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 Rose has fired band members since then and cancelled many tours. He refuses to put out new recorded songs as he believes they are substandard.

I love the way this is stated as fact.   ::)

Edit...I mean the last part by the way.   ;)


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: MR.BROWNSTONE on March 22, 2004, 08:07:12 PM
Spaghetti Incident released in 1995 was it?????

More like 1993.

Yeah it was released on November 23, 1993.

I think this guy is so off when he says how the music would have worked great in the 90' but no now.  ::) This is the kinda of music we need today. Still how can anyone tell without even hearing the dam album yet. But I'm sure it will be great along with the albums after it.  :)


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: D on March 23, 2004, 03:30:50 AM
mick wall what a moron and that fuckin idiot who took hanoi over gnr cause hanoi were more real? what a fuckin dipshit!

my quote to axl "may the bridges u burn light the way"


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: matt88 on March 23, 2004, 03:53:23 AM
Mick shut the fuck up and stop embarassing yourself


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: norway on March 23, 2004, 04:24:23 AM
Easy there. On this very site there is a (rollinstone?) thing where they meet axl and he plays them song. He(axl) says he's going to put some guitar here and there in the prosess. It's in the articles around the oh my god times. I think they start with saying him look more solid built than the sweet child days

He (axl) played them severals songs and there is also mentoned titles we haven't heard. So mick may talk true\ or other press people have given him a review of that meeting


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: kockstar99 on March 23, 2004, 04:46:15 AM
Easy there. On this very site there is a (rollinstone?) thing where they meet axl and he plays them song. He(axl) says he's going to put some guitar here and there in the prosess. It's in the articles around the oh my god times. I think they start with saying him look more solid built than the sweet child days

He (axl) played them severals songs and there is also mentoned titles we haven't heard. So mick may talk true\ or other press people have given him a review of that meeting


I dont think that was Mick Wall...


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: norway on March 23, 2004, 05:14:49 AM
I edited a interview. Here's some highlights\ enjoy  : ok:

In his first interview in six years, Axl Rose talks about rebuilding Guns N Roses for the new century.
It is 2AM in dimly lit recording studio deep in Los Angeles' San Fernando Valley. Sitting back on a couch in the control room is a once omnipresent rock figure who has been out of the public view for most of the last decade. The music he's been playing on this long night has been the focus of his obsessive perfectionism since 1991, when Guns N Roses last released an album of new material.

But in late November, Axl Rose plays nearly a dozen tracks from the long in the works Guns N` Roses album for Rolling Stone and gave his first substantial interview in more than six years.

He was only an hour late to do so. Occasionally getting up to whisper details about what still must be done to complete the tracks- ''I gotta put some guitar here!'' - Rose comes across as intense but hardly humorless as he speaks at length about his music and the fate of his former band mates.

At 36 Rose looks a bit older and more solidly built than the lean rock god of his ''Sweet Child O' Mine'' days, the result perhaps not just of the passage of time but of his kickboxing regimen and a lifestyle that's said to be largely nocturnal but zealously healthy.

He's dressed tonight in Abercrombie & Fitch, with his reddish hair intact and cut to a Prince Valiant-ish mid-length. Having failed to deliver a new album by the end of the twentieth century, is Rose ready to commit to releasing a record sometime during the twenty-first?

''Yes, I think that would definitely be the right time,'' he answers, a slight grin coming to his face.

The new Guns N Roses album is tentatively titled Chinese Democracy and loosely scheduled for summer 2000.

''As far as I can tell,'' says GnR's manager Doug Goldstein, ''we are now 99% musically done and 80% vocals done. I see the record being done Feb or March for a summer release.''

But time is of little consequence in the world of Axl Rose.

In passing, Rose mentions that he recently ''cancelled Thanksgiving'' delaying his celebration a few days until it better suited his timetable. ''I'm trying not to do that with Christmas,'' he adds, ''since New Years comes up right away.''

From time to time, Rose gets up to pace the studio where he has spent the last year recording and re-recording material (his workday tends to start around midnight and run through the early daylight hours). ''What we're trying to do is build Guns N` Roses back into something,'' Rose explains quietly as he stands in front of a sunken isolation booth.

''This wasn't Guns N` Roses, but I feel it is Guns N` Roses now.''

Furthermore, because the new material has been composed collaboratively with the new players, he insists, ''It's not an Axl Rose album, even if it's what I wanted it to be. Everybody is putting everything they've got into singing and building. Maybe I'm helping steer it to what it should be built like.''

Throughout the night, Rose seems anxious to finally have his say but wishes he could wait until the new album is released and can ''speak for itself.''


According to Rose, part of the delay in building the new model of Guns N` Roses has been ''educating myself'' about the technology that's come to define rock in the nineties: ''It's like from scratch, learning how to work with something and not wanting it just to be something you did on a computer.''


By 1996, Slash was gone; Izzy Stradlin was long gone. Duff McKagen officially quit in 1998. They were replaced by a shifting group of collaborators, who've helped Rose create music that plays to his old strengths while also playing catchup. ''Oh My God'' - the industrial flavored track that surfaced on the End of Days soundtrack - is only one hint of what's to come.

Imagine Led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti remixed by Beck and Trent Reznor, and you'll have some sense of Axl's new sound.

Song after song combines the edgy hard rock force and pop smarts of vintage Guns N Roses with surprisingly modern and ambitious music textures. In addition to the album's almost grungy title track, tentative song titles include ''Catcher in the Rye,'' ''I.R.S,'' ''The Blues'' and ''TWAT,'' which he says stands for ''there was a time.''

Another song, called ''Oklahoma'' - heard tonight only as an instrumental - was inspired by a court date with ex-wife Erin Everly. ''I was sitting in my litigation with my ex-wife, and it was the day after the bombing,'' Rose remembers with a wince. ''We had a break, and I'm sitting with my attorneys with a sort of smile on my face, more like a nervous thing - it was like, 'Forgive me, people, I'm having trouble taking this seriously.' It's just ironic that we're sitting there and this person is spewing all kinds of things and 168 people just got killed. And this person I'm sitting there with, she don't care. Obliterating me is their goal.''



Rose seems estranged from many old associates -


 Everything I've heard is spectacular. It's exciting and diverse and - I think - absolutely well worth the wait.''

The rebuilding - and ongoing reinvention - of Guns N Roses has been a difficult and, quite obviously, slow and expensive process. Rose does point out that the expense will be less glaring if, as he expects, he gets another record out of the hours and hours of material he's committed to tape, possibly one that's even more industrial and electronica-influence than Chinese Democracy. ''I'd like to take some of the old Guns fans along with me gradually into the twenty-first century,'' he says. Along the way, assorted producers - including Youth (the Verve) and the loose lipped Moby (''I appreciate all the publicity he's been getting us, but...

Having stayed publicly silent so long, Rose appears to view the album as a final offering\ he want's seymores son to grow up listening\ come across to CD

As for his reputation as a recluse locked away mysteriously at his Malibu estate, Rose says, ''The reality is that I'm not clubbing because I don't find it's in my best interest to be out there. I am building something slowly, and it doesn't seem to be much out there as in here, in the studio and in my home.



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Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: kockstar99 on March 23, 2004, 05:26:32 AM
I edited a interview. Here's some highlights\ enjoy  : ok:

I remember this interview...always a good read... but i didnt think that was Mick Wall who did that interview... If it was my appologies to you,  I just didnt know it was Mick Wall who wrote this... I never really bothered to see who did...


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: MoonMax on March 23, 2004, 06:29:25 AM
Chill out, damm!!!

Guys, why You want to kill anyone, who doesn't like Guns N' Roses? He might be right, face it!! Perhaps, GN'R will never be as good live band as they were, who knows(they wasn't last tour). Who knows the new material? Actually old band didn't creat anything new, they were more like quintesence of rock'n'roll days, so?

I'm not defending Mick Wall, I hope he's not right about asnything he said.

Cheers :smoking:
MoonMax

PS MaoAxl, if Ruby tuesday, Sweet Child... and so on, where premiered tommorow, they might be great hits, but woud never change the history like they did back then, and that's what we need if it comes to Chinese Democracy.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Pandora on March 23, 2004, 08:44:04 AM

I remember this interview...always a good read... but i didnt think that was Mick Wall who did that interview... If it was my appologies to you,  I just didnt know it was Mick Wall who wrote this... I never really bothered to see who did...

It's not Mick Wall, Mick doesn't work for Rolling Stone ;)


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: norway on March 23, 2004, 09:08:14 AM
It's kerrang! Right?

According to get in the ring.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Pandora on March 23, 2004, 11:39:59 AM
It's kerrang! Right?

According to get in the ring.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, but if it's the interview you posted above, it's from Rolling Stone  ;)


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Booker Floyd on March 23, 2004, 11:48:55 AM
I take issue (and always have) with the idea that a certain piece of music would have been AWESOME five years ago but would somehow be dated and bland today.

Agreed...Ive always been very uncomfortable with the notion that music can be dated.  Its a pointless concept, especially when you consider how many "post-modern" bands are defining the current soundscape.  It seems to many reviews Jet is modern and current, bt if AC/DC put out the same record, it would be dated.  Sure, there are certain musical touches that conjour a certain time period, but who cares?  Whatever is current now is going to be dated in 4 or 5 years anyway...so whats the point?  

The only aspect of music in which "dating" should come into play is actual recording.  

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It's not Mick Wall, Mick doesn't work for Rolling Stone

Correct.  Its David Wild, Rolling Stone editor (and author of the Velvet Revolver biography).


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: R4tfink on March 23, 2004, 02:39:29 PM
Mick Wall is now the editor of Classic Rock Magazine.



Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Scree on March 23, 2004, 03:45:51 PM
Blah... Mick Wall is (and always was) just another hack journo who should be ignored instead of getting a reaction from his bitter standpoint.


Title: Re:Mick Wall interview: Talks about Axl / CD
Post by: Miz on March 23, 2004, 06:56:39 PM
Blah... Mick Wall is (and always was) just another hack journo who should be ignored instead of getting a reaction from his bitter standpoint.
But...that's what jounralism is!  That's why they're called Music Critics.  Go find a newspaper whose front page has something POSITIVE to say about the world.  Go on.  Try.

I'ts good to see so many people have an opinion of their own and don't just judge someone because Axl Rose slagged him off in a song.