Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Not that great of a song at all. The music (in my opinion) is terrible. The lyrics and singing are not too bad at all.  Scott should step away from these guys and start his own project. I have his solo album at home and it's pretty good, lots better than this has-been-rock.

Sorry VR, but it's just not cutting it for me for the lead single. Unless I hear otherwise I'm not buying this CD.

AA.



Edit: Changed subject line /jarmo

Awesome...this certainly deserved its own thread  : ok:

At least you thought it deserved a reply.

AA

I'm disappointed with this song.

It sounds like STP playing over the top of GN'R.

Song had potential had Axl been on vocals.

Matt's drums are so basic & boring it's scary that he gets to be the drummer of rock band.

THANK GOD for Slash's pic........he still proves he is the greatest axeman in current times.

Just finished listening to Slither and I think it was alright, at best.  Far from spectacular, that's for sure.  I agree that it sounds very STP, but I think it sounds more like Alice in Chains.
I'd say that most of us expected something that sounded like GNR, without Axl.  For those who thought that, this song definitely proves us wrong.    

I still love Slash's solos but the rest is mediocre at best. As compared to another supergroup, Audioslave and their first single Cochise, Cornell and the boys blow this away. However, all final judgments will come when hearing the entire record. :P

That's what I think too.

I remember when I first heard "Cochise" when it first leaked, I was really excited about it. It had a great intro, the right energy, a catchy chorus etc. Basically it made me want to buy their album and hear more.

Now with "Slither", I'm kinda thinking "is this it?". To be honest, I'm not sure if I'd buy the album based on that one song. Maybe after I heard more tracks. I'll buy it, just because of the GN'R connection.....


/jarmo

Exactly but for the GN'R connection i would not touch it after hearing that it was ok but that's all, i got 'It's Five O'Clock Somewhere' because of the GN'R connection.......big mistake i hope it ain't gonna be another mistake, could be a case of even when a football team spends millions on players and has the ingredients for the best team when mixed it don't work, maybe Scott and the Ex-Gunners don't sound that good together.  I know they rejected Sebastian Bach because they sounded too much like Skid Row but hell, id of loved that it would be like Skid Row with better members, no matter how good Snake is he's no Slash

I heard somewhere that this song sounds the most like STP out of all the others so i hope there is better ahead. Also it might appeal to today's audience a little more than a GNR influenced song.

But still....its rather dissapointing, it lacks that spark, it just seems as though Scott is going through the motions rather than stamping his authority on the song. I think the weakest parts of this song are the chorus and Matt's drumming, nothing original there.

Slash is the only saving grace here.

It grew on me. At first i thought it was just a glorified stp song but after 37 listens I think its really good, especially the solo and scotts screming of the lyrics right after it.

I think its best we judge a song with an open mind and not let our alliegances get in the way of our judgemenet. There are many VR fans who badly want the band to do well (me included) after all the shit they went through with Axl and GNR.

But we shouldn't just be positive for the sake of it, that's what diehard Axl fans do and we don't need to be like them where any criticism of the band is immediately met with an extremely defensive response.

Another thing, i've just realised how important Steven really was to GNR after listening to Matt on Slither, Set me Free and YGNR. Matt just doesn't have that rythym and groove that Steven had, someone in these forums hit the nail on the head when he said that Matt overplays too much. He's all noise, not much substance.

It is also growing on me the more I listen to it yet I hope that the album offers more "big guns" than Slither.

this is gonna get moved to the vr section but alot of my friends ive let listen to velvet revolver say slash still sounds to 80ish that he hasnt evolved any and thats true, thats why i think axl was right slash didnt wanna evolve so he quit

I agree with you it does sound like an STP song.  It's not a bad song but I think the average listener is going to think this song is an old STP song.  Weiland's voice and style is very unique, IMO, and it screams STP.

I think VR would have been better getting a new voice and not one from an old band. The comparisions will never go away.    It would be like starting a band with David Lee Roth and trying to sell it as new.  

On the plus side STP fans will probably love this record.

D.... How the hell does Slash sound 80s? Part of the whole fuckin point GNR became popular is that they strayed from the 80s sound...

Slash was all about pentatonics and hard blues... NOT harmonic minor shredding that was common in the 80s... his solo is pretty fresh in today's music scene... there is absolutely NOTHING 80s about that playing....

Right on!

I ain't a massive, no, thats not right...i ain't a STP fan at all, therefore 'STP with solo's' fills me with terror

I haven't heard Slither, i'll wait till June.....but i grew more anxious by the hour.....

I agree with most of the comments

I didn't like it after the 1st listen

But 20 times later - i really like it - its quite catchy.

I just hope people keep listening to it; However the average listener probaby won't.

Slash is fantastic as ever

It's a great song with lot's of attitude on it! I love the intro, the chorus and the solo. Plus Weiland sounds good and I'm not a Weiland fan at all. Slither's a rocker for sure!
If you're an Axler you won't like this, it's just too good!

I'll repost this over here since it fits for those who expect more GN'R sounding songs.

It problably comes from a fan who attended the meet and greet with Slash & Duff in Europe.


posted by: Sweden's conscience
4/7/2004 7:04:18 PM
I've heard the whole album and I'm actually surprised that people are so psyched about "Slither". Just didn't expect people to jump all over it. It's a good, solid song. But to tell you the truth, it's one of the weakest ones on the album! Wait until you hear the likes of "Big Machine" and "Suckertrain Blues" - great, full-on rockers. Most of the album's in the same vein, but the stand-out track is definitely "Fall To Pieces". It's a huge, dramatic hard rock ballad with a classic Slash solo (think "November Rain") that will give Velvet Revolver a crossover appeal and make girls cry and get guys horny.

I like Slither, it's a good hard rock song, and it grows on you.  Scott's vocals aren't my favorite, but they definitely work for the song.   Slash's guitar work is the best part of the song.  I like the solo, though I wish it was a little bit more dissident with the main rhythm (as was common with AFD songs).  I was disappointed with Kushner's rhythym work (adequate, but far from being a "secret weapon"), and Matt's drumming is no better than it was back in the UYI days.   Duff sounds good too.

Hey guys, I do like SLither actually it isn't a great great song at all but it is a good song. It will do nicely on the billboard top 40.

I say it will crack the top 40.

I think we all think it's not that good because we all jacked up the expectations.

Slither was played this summer.... I'm sure this isn't their biggest song... I promise you guys that.

Scott's vocals are okay...

Slash is excellent

Kushner does his job
\
Duff is good

Matt does his job.

I like the song a lot.

VELVET REVOLVER IS HERE!

Discrepancy?   ;)

Back on topic, I think we all (well most of us) agree that Slither is a fine song that grows on you. Still it is a weak first single, not likely to stir a sill water.  :-\
It sounds very mid/late '90s and the lyrics turn out to be quite the clich? expected from SW.
However, I still will be first in line when the album arrives - I don't expect another 'Snakepit-letdown'.

Do "alot" of your friends think that Zeppelin is "too" 70's??


Talent is talent and Slash's talent is UNTOUCHABLE and certainly cannot be "dated" or dismissed as "too" anything other than "Too Motherfuckin Rockin for the weak".

I think the song is excellent.  Hearing this and Set Me Free have really got me excited about the upcoming album.  The best thing about Contraband is that it is for sure going to be released.  I was also a big STP fan.  Do all the people who dislike this song also dislike STP?

I've listened to the song about 50 times this week now, and really like it.

And to clairify my prespective

Diehard GNR fan. Has followed the project since Nov 02. i got into STP once it was announced that Scott got the job, bought Set Me Free the first day, saw them at the smashbox show, saw them at the video, we can just say that no one is a bigger VR fan than me yet.

Well...Appetite was released in the 80's...







Before you get all angry...i'm kidding...I know exactly what you mean

As you soon as you get it, you're gonna put Contraband on infinite repeat, arent you?  8)


Isnt it cool being able to experience a band being born?  

Most of the bands I like were in their prime before I could live through it with them.  It's just really exciting seeing this all come together.

I don't see this song doing anything.  "set me free" was much better and that didn't make a huge splash.  I've listen to Slither several times and really tried to get into it.  Wieland just doesn't have a great range, and the sound is so unorigional.  Even Slash's solo doesnt sound that unique.  The rest of the album better be a lot better.

Ok perhaps a little inconsistant, but you know what i mean.

I'm sure i speak for a majority of us, when i say we are all looking forward to 'Contraband'!

I have missed slash, and in MHO bucket (although i loved) could not fill the void.

Just keep listening to slither - it will grow on you   :yes:

Scott isnt a good singer, hes unoriginal and boaring doesnt have much of a range, from what ive heard on VR anyway. there is a good riff there just after the intro but its being done all wrong. Drums are boaring, bass is crap... the intro sounds like they are trying to cop in on modern music, which sucks, coz most modern music sucks.

slashs solo is ok but the wah is distastefully used, which i did not expect from him a la civil war, very intelligently used.

the structure of the song is pretty crap, basic muted power chord used for the rythm, just listen to an afd song then slither, what the fuck happened slash? play with a bit of creativity you know... think it goes to show that slash is not a genious on his own, the key is izzy, adler, duff, axl, only then are u likly to get good music. every snakepit song sounds better than this, the worst songs on use your illousion are better than this. To me it sounds exactly like snake pit but without the big black guys stomping vocals over it.

Slash needs to get out of his own " i just wanna play good rock" ass and stop making extremly average albums and do summet interesting. Fair enough hes already changed history enough so doesnt need to bother but just stop releasing dump songs.

having said all that, i still worship slash... just hope he dosnt sell out.  :-X

i also think that if CD is ever released it will kick the shit out of anything slash will do solo. FACT.

Good guitarists are tools, axl is a songwrighter, u need both.

Nah, Scott is a good singer, different from Axl, which is a good thing (as it stops comparisons).

If Slash changes 'Slash needs to get out of his own " i just wanna play good rock" ass'

Then that would be selling out 'just hope he dosnt sell out'.

Have a look at the writing credits for most GnR songs  ::)

he wouldnt be selling out... he would be playing interesting stuff like on guns albums.

Scott sings  shit on the vr songs, nuff said... axl is infinity times better, this cant be argued

you can pretty much fuckin bet ur life that every afd song was contributed to by the whole band whatever the wrighting credits say. You cant wright a good song just coz ur good on guitar, ur usually one or the other, or like bowie, now theres a fuckin genious who can play guitar alright, not great tho

Well depends on what you like!  I like all kinds including the hard rock.
There will be softer ballads (read somewhere in this board there is a november rain like song)

Wait for the album - if you don't, then i would like you to come back and eat your words after the release of contraband  ;)

I agree Axl is better - but Scott is not shit - just different to axl.

You are allowed to listen to more that one singer  :yes:

Didn't slash write 'Serial killer'?

Now that songs kicks ass.

im comenting on the song slither not the album. and the post said that its all in a similar vien anyway so i will most likly not be eating my words.

yes you can listen to different singers, it doesnt change the fact that axl will always be better at whatever he does and is voice is a shitload more interesting.

Ok fair enough.

Let agree to disagree  :yes:

100% agreed. Kushner's really disappointed me too, esp. because we already know Money, Set Me Free and Slither and he didn't made anything special to be this "secret weapon". Damn, bring Izzy as a permanent member and all things will work!  : ok: :peace:

I like the song lyrics, guitar the drums could be better but ah well and the vocals are alright.

listen to the rhythm guitar during the solo! it's brilliant!! very
Izzy-esque!!

Go listen to Rocket Queen. That is a brilliant rhythm guitar! There's nothing brilliant in Kushner's track.

Very good sond,very good band,but that doesn't do it for us: We're used to Guns N' Fuckin Roses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We want perfection!

I'm no too crazy about the song. I liked the live version but still not too happy with the studio track. It's a rocker but doesn't really get me going. It's a decent rock and roll song but not any better than any STP song. You got no right is much better.

I did and I love it!!  Actually the rythm is top-notch all the way through.


I now OFFICIALLY love this song and am getting REAL excited about getting this album.


GN'R Lives!!!

I didn't read the whole thread, just wanna share my opinion:

I listened to it two times just a few minutes ago. When I first listened to it on Saturday it just bored me to death, so I listened again now .

And .. it still is the most boring song I heard in a long time. I mean, I kinda liked "Set Me Free" except for the lyrics which sounded just dumb and uninspired to me. For "Slither" I didn't pay too much attention to the lyrics, I just listened. Scott's singning is mediocre. Matt's drumming is just .. well, boring. The rest, including Slash's solo sounds absolutely uninspired to me. That's music I heard a thousand times before and it didn't even excite me in the first place.

So Slither is a huge letdown for me. Even though you know I'm more of an Axl-fan than a Slash-fan, I still was excited about VR and their upcoming album. But this just ruined my expectations. Just as Jarmo said, I'm not even sure now if I'll buy the album. I'll listen to the other songs before I'll make a decision.

As hard as it may sound but every single song off "Ain't Life Grand" excites me way more than this.


/lastroots

this riff kicks fuckin ass, slashs work is amazing

i think this song is pretty fuckin good, way better than set me free, cant touch any of the few GNR songs we've heard though


i dont share the opinions of my friends by the way, i love slash i think he is the greatest guitarist ever, i was just sayin what some other people who arent emotionally attached thought

I'm a huge Slash fan and I'm a new GN'R fan and I really like Slither. While I'll admit it's not as great as I expected it to be, I still think it's a solid modern rock song.
Also, now that I've heard the excellent quality studio version, I like it even more. And cranked up loud it f**kin rocks.

Does anyone know the next single after slither?

First off,

From this thread, and the other 1,000 threads examining NuGN'R songs, it seems pretty obvious ...

NuGN'R has most of the optimists in the GNR fan base
and
Velvet Revolver has most of the pessimists.

Either that, or CD is set to become one of the best records ever, while Contraband will go off as the muffled shot from a velvet revolver....

I doubt any VR fan would agree with the latter statement, so let's stick to the former.

Second,

Assuming my first assumption is correct,

You VR fans are a pretty sorry lot. Here you have a damn good song ... well, SOLID (is the key word here). And you complain.

Now, the song isn't perfect ... very little is in our world today. The song makes very little use of Slash (as a lead guitarist). Makes even less use of Matt. And Duff, well, I couldn't even hear him (although you could chalk that up to me having heard a rather crappy 96 Kbps Version of the song). Has a rather weak ending in the chorus. Lastly, THERE ISN'T ANY SCREAMING!

But enough of what the song doesn't have and what the song doesn't do. WHAT DOES THE SONG DO!!??!!

Two words, KILLER RIFF. I mean the riff is so fucking Slash-esque, I'd be surprised if Kushner had anything to do with it. Then, pretty stable verse - dark and brooding (I hope that's what they were going for). I'm liking the tune he's given the verses. And I love the "Oi's" he's put in during the riff. Good solo. Fast-Paced song with Slower Lyrics = Good Combo.

What I wish they'd done -

Made more use of Slash as a lead guitarist before the solo kicked in.

I wish Scott would have screamed a bit for the chorus, or come up with something more "Kick-in-the-balls" You know what I mean? I'm not asking for an Axl, but at least something like what Chris Cornell does.

Perhaps, changed the chord progression for the verse.

Maybe, continued with the chorus into the riff (after the chorus was said once)

---

Overall -

Like I said before, this is a SOLID rock song. Nothing more you could ask for.

Somehow, while writing this review I've come to a rather surprising conclusion.

Picture a slower "Set Me Free".

Slither is exactly that. Nothing much changes. It even sounds similar. Even the solo is about as long as the SMF solo.

(A little trivia - The SMF solo is about 25 seconds .. the Slither Solo about 27 seconds ... and SCOM ? A WHOLE MINUTE and a few seconds longer. And it even continues into the ending chorus)

Now, even the song lengths of SMF and Slither are similar 4:07 and 4:09 respectively.


Here's the key though, I'm pretty damn sure this isn't the BEST from the VR music box. Nope, I'm sure they've saved some killer stuff for later (Even GNR did ... SCOM).

While this isn't a BAD song ... and while this isn't a GREAT song, I'm left with the conclusion that this is a better SMF (making it a pretty good song).

- WMD

Everything you said is the reason why the song was shortened by by 2min and the reason why it was chosen as the first single. You can thank the industry for that one. The song was a masterpiece before.

Has anyone checked out the new video clip posted on VR's website?  It's like the first 15 seconds or so of the Slither music video.

There was no shots of the band, but it actually looked pretty cool.  Somehow, watching that video made me like the song even more.  I'm getting really excited about this album.

Fuck yeah!

It's actually 51 seconds long .. and damn it's great.

I'd mentioned in my review of the song that the singing style was kinda dark and that's exactly what the video seems like. It's damn cool how they change the pace when the riff kicks in ... Can't wait for the next posting ... (they said a week ... is that thursday?)

Axl's Voice is horrible now it wasnt but now it is and now in my opinion weilands voice is better than axls almost hilarious vocals

This song flat out kicks ass!!! It has the best elements of GnR and Scott. Great stuff and already it is all over the radio. Go VR!!!! The first time I heard it with that radio broadcast with the weak mp3 I couldn't really tell. Now that I have heard the real deal a couple times, I can't get the fucking thing out of my mind. Scott sings his melody over Slash's riff perfectly.  I still liked it better when Slash tuned down, he seemed to have better tone.

??? STP has plenty of solos.....

I dislike it so much that if I ever hear it on the radio i will change the station. :P

Slither is okay.  Stylistically, it sounds very much like STP though.  It's not just Weilands' vocals, it's the pacing of the song, etc., it's very STP.  That's what I don't like about it.  It doesn't have the "bluesy" trademark of Slash, imo.

There is a better song in Contraband. It's called You Got No Right! It rocks, at least live...  :yes:

The ONLY thing STP about this masterpiece is the voice.

But, complainers will complain cuz by god what kind of day would it be if you didn't have something to complain about..........special maybe??

For those who have been patiently waiting for a record full of GN'R style rock.........it will be available June 8th.  

For the complainers or those who have lost patience and have moved onto rap, hip-hop, country, punk, etc..........DON'T BUY IT.

Unless, that is you don't have something to bitch and whine or complain about that day.......... :'(

Listen to Slither ignoring every piece but Slash and you will feel the power from his pic/strings and will recognize that he has returned and is ready to reclaim his title of greatest guitarist that currently walks this planet.

I love the song, but it sounds very similar to an early STP rocker (or even something like "Down").  It could have easily been something off of Core.  It sounds much more like "Sex Type Thing" or "Crackerman" than anything GNR has done.

I'm not complaining, I'm merely stating a fact.  It sounds a lot like STP.  If this is indicative of the whole album, than Slash should have reigned Weiland in.

Haven't you been reading the articles man? There's a little for everyone on the album!

I love this song!  I have listened to it more than Slither in fact.  The other 2 are great songs, but You Got No Right makes me feel connected to Weiland.  It's great to know that Contraband will have a full range of songs.

They gave Weiland the song and he wrote the lyrics.

You'll always compare VR's songs to STP's songs because of the voice.

They'll have to live with that.

To me it's a great rocker. I love the rythm, the solo, the intro and weiland's voice.

Can't wait to listen to the rest of the album. Especially the studio version of You've Got No Right...

All in all, I liked it.  I agree with whoever said it wasn't as bluesy as is expected from Slash. I really wish someone (either gnr or vr) would go into more of a blues-rock directionbc it's classic, so it can't be dated like industrial or some other things.

I suggest you're not listening beyond the voice.  Ignore Wieland and hear the music.  Slash plays NOTHING like Dean DeLeo.

This song just keeps getting better & better for me with every listen.  Slither is going sell 2 million copies of Contraband alone.  

VR might as well wait at least 3 months before they release the second single as their first single is going to gain steam the longer it spins on the airwaves.

It does sound like it could be on an STP album... but you can tell it's Slash from that solo.

I don't think there is any reason to get so defensive, Stone Temple Pilots are an incredible band and have made some amazing music.  If someone says they don't like Slither or Velvet Revolver because it sounds "Like STP"... I say Fuck 'EM!

No, that's not it.  The song's alright, it's good, just not great.  I'm not a musician, so I don't know how to describe it, but the structure of the song, the rythm, sounds very STP.  There is a Slash solo in there though, yes.  

i got a promo of the single and i must say it took me ten times to really get into it... when i got into it, it's a halfassed song. a solid rocker as someone put it, but noting like anything of gn'r quality! the reast of the album(contraband) is very much alike slither so i'm quite sceptic to the whole thing... except for a few mellow songs they are way too much alike... the bass line that kind of reminds me of it's so easy is nothing like it, and the melodic guitar work that are supposed to sound a bit like scom doesn't come close at all... i also think wieland is holding back alot.... if he only used his voice to the full... i'm not impressed...

i am looking foreward to getting the album tho, but it's nothing like anything gn'r ever did...

when it comes to live, i think it'll be alot better... club rock concerts rock! and i just have to say, vr will never fill up a stadium like gn'r did... not one... none of those songs are stadium rocker as some call it...

Well that's probably because it's not supposed to be GN'R, it's a NEW band.

I don't know what people are expecting from VR. I made up a cd with Set Me Free (studio), Slither (studio), Money (studio) & You Got No Right and all of those songs kick ass and rock out big time!

If the rest of the album is half as good as these tracks I'll be happy :beer:

I haven't listened to YGNR since October 30th 2003

Why not Jizzo?
Aren't you supposed to be the biggest VR fan on this board. or am I mistaking you with somebody else?

I am the biggest VR fan here. I'm just not into downloading tracks.

Plus I think watching the show would take away from the memories of seeing it first hand

I finally heard Slither on the radio!  

I was driving back from LA to Pasadena, and KROQ played it as the 'What's Next' song.  

So I had a wonderful few minutes on the freeway swerving left & right to the beat of the music as I pushed the other cars off the road  :D

At the end, the dj (Stryker, I think) said that Weiland of Velvet Revolver sounds great.

I must say, it's a great car song.

I heard the promo about 2pm,saying it was coming up, but I got out of the car for about 3 minutes, I don't think they played the whole song thought, cause the time wouldn't add up. But then at the end of the 40 minutes of music they played plush which adds more doubts to it.

I am back, after a long period of hybernation....(i doubt anyone noticed or cares)

However, I have to say that Slither is really bad, its dull, lyrics are forgettable and uninspiring, vocals have absolutely no character, are bland and sound like hes trying to sing over the music without a microphone. Overall, I am dissapointed that a commercial route was chosen and as a result we have something that sounds like a filler track on a Seether album. I not holding these guys to the GnR standard (and no one should, since the key certain someone is missing), but quite frankly, I'm not sure this will make a dent in the music market of today.  

It brings a smile to my face to  hear Slash claiming its the best record he's done.  I don't know if he's just saying that to pump everyone up, or he is dellusional.
Also, what's with saying crap like "We're as dangerous and angry as ever".  How old are you guys? 40+? I was probably one of the biggest Slash fans here (and still am) but somehow I feel this whole fiasco is just another 15 minutes of fame, filled with claims and bold statements that don't mean much.  

I like it...I don't love it, mostly because I don't think Wielands lyrics are his best stuff. And his vocals are not the strong part of the song, IMHO.  They're not awful, but I've heard Scott do better. I think the music is pretty strong.  I suspect there is better stuff on the album, but this is probably the most "radio friendly" song.  

I will say this: It's growing on me.  The first time I heard it, I wasn't overly impressed.  It was just OK for me.  The more I hear it, the more I like the music (probably because I can start to discern it around the vocals).  It's catchy.  And if you can listen "past" Weiland's voice, you can hear some killer Slash playing.  And, of course, the solo is exactly what I would expect from him.  

I do agree with some of the other posters. I hope the album has some bluesy-rock that Slash does so well.

I also agree about Audioslave. They are the new "blueprint" for a supergroup.

Another thing I anticipate with this band: I think they're going to play their best stuff live.  I think it's going to be a challenge for them to "catch the lightening" and get their best stuff on disc.  I will bet you, dollars to donuts, that their live shows coming up kick ass!  

Streaming link (in Quicktime format) of the song, from VR's web site:
http://media.bmgonline.com/rcarecords.com/velvet_revolver/audio/01_slither_96.mov

Personally I like Slither it has a good grove and is fun to play.  I am going to buy the album. I would have bought it off of hearing Set Me Free alone (that song kicked my ass all over the place).  I am cycked about this band and can't wait for them to explode.

Later

Slashisthebest
 :peace:

Do "alot" of your friends think that Zeppelin is "too" 70's??


Talent is talent and Slash's talent is UNTOUCHABLE and certainly cannot be "dated" or dismissed as "too" anything other than "Too Motherfuckin Rockin for the weak".

Amen, dude.  Slash's talent is untouchable.  and no Zeppelin is timeless, like the rolling stones and GNR.

Slashisthebest

Heard Slither for the first time yesterday and i hate to say it, but i thought it sucked. The dj was really talking it up, but it's just another crappy, middle of the road song to me.

I'm really surprised this is what VR chose to make as their debut single off their debut album. What a downer.

This is coming from a fan who that talks up Slash every chance I get too. Slash, dude, thumbs down.

the song is ok
but it doesnt like put u in a trance, it doesnt make u really move with excitement

if it were a new band it would be good

but since we know what slash and co are capable of it makes it less of a song on that alone

I love this song the solo makes me just go WOW and the band is really great sounding not GNR sounding really and not STP either it's like a mixture of both (I wonder why? lol).A real great video Scott looked a little weird but Slash,Duff,Matt and Dave looked pretty cool.Velvet Revolver has that kick ass attitude to them and this is just what rock needs a good kick in the balls just like Axl, Slash and Duff did back in the 80's.I am not saying that Velvet Revolver is better than the original Guns N' Roses I am just saying they give me a simular feeling when listening to them.I think Velvet Revolver can hold down the Rock N' Roll fort untill Axl gets it all together IE replacing Buckethead and re-doing his parts.

I actually like this song quite a bit, and I've only heard it once.

On the other hand, I did NOT like Set Me Free. That song did nothing for me.

Slither will be a marginal hit, nothing huge but it will put VR on the map and set the tone for the band's first album and tour. I like the song, I think the band will work out just fine, and hopefully the album, the tour and the success that the new band has will force Axl to do something, ANYTHING, with Chinese Democracy.
How great would it be to have a battle of the bands between Guns and VR? Each trying to outdo each other on stage, in the studio, on the billboard list...that would be the best case scenario for us fans, so let's hope it happens.

slashglp said it best:

"there is a good riff there just after the intro & the intro sounds like they are trying to cop in on modern music, which sucks, coz most modern music sucks"

then slashglp asks:

"the structure of the song is pretty crap, basic muted power chord used for the rythm, just listen to an afd song then slither, what the fuck happened slash?"

what happened is afd songs were structured by the giant songwriter Izzy Stradlin

then slashglp says it himself: "the key is izzy, adler, duff, axl"

yeah, put Slash IN there and you have it.

Slash walked out of his "i just wanna play good rock" ass when he (and duff & matt) dismissed Izzy proposal to go out in a van and play good rock"

and now my considerations on the song, based on what MadmanDan said: "that doesn't do it for us: We're used to Guns N' Fuckin Roses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We want perfection!"

So I say: SLITHER HAS GOT NO FUCKING CHORUS!!!!!!!!!

It?s sick :drool:

The song Slither has NO chorus >:(

It?s ridiculous.  :crying:

That "part" of the song ("here comes the water...") wich everybody (including the band) considers to be the chorus is actually a bridge to a chorus that NEVER comes.  ???

It?s the BIGGEST shame that Izzy is not on this band.  :'(

It?s a shame Slash did have "higher aspirations" to this band and did NOT want to throw the things in the Van and go out and play (with Izzy & Duff singing).  :no:

Because these guys (Slash, Duff & Matt) are the best in what they do and they can?t even get a chorus in their fucking FIRST SINGLE.  :rant:

Ok, if Slither was a filler (and it was said the album does not have any). But no chorus on the fisrt SINGLE?  :drool:

And the weird thing is, if they (Matt, Duff, Slash) had never been in Guns n Roses, they would be like the best band around today.  : ok:

But since it?s pretty hard to avoid comparing both... One can not help saying that they need Izzy so bad that it?s shocking.  :o

One day Izzy and Dee Dee Ramone will be recognized among the greatest songwriters of modern rock n roll.  :D

Fuck, listen to 53rd and 3rd  :crying: and Sweet Caress :love: !