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Yes or No? Good or bad idea?

Personally, i'd love it, 2 of the most badass bands on the planet in one night? How can you say no? Failing that, whack The Darkness in then! :P

Oh hey everyone, aint posted in a while!  :peace:

I don't think GNR wants to be in the same boat as Motley Crue.  It would seem too much of like an 80's reunion.  I think GNR wants to show people that they have moved on and that there music will be relevant to today's standards.  They need to tour with a band that is big with young folk of today. 

   This isn't a good or bad idea...it's a  t e r r i b l e  idea, and obviously won't happen. 

   GNR transcends time.  Motley Crue (while I enjoy some of their tunes) is unmistakably "old."

   Yes, I realize there will be several follow-ups reminding me that we have heard only a handful of new songs in the past 13 years...but...Axl is a genuine friggin enigma, a mystery, and whether or not people want to see him because they don't know what the hell he's gonna do, or they're really into the older material, it doesn't matter.  Crue, in my eyes, only offers more of the same old.

   And another point about relevance...some folks have knocked Axl for waiting so long and songs written 5 years ago aren't "relevant" anymore...this is utter bullshit.  Axl's lyrics, as I mentioned this word in my intro., transcend time.  That's what great music does.  It stands the test of time. 

   If Axl really wants it, he'll rise to the top.  I really don't believe he was ready to take on the challenge in 2002.  He was not mentally or physically prepared, and made the right decision to fold that hand.  If he comes back strong he's set, but if he pulls a Mike Tyson...well, you know the rest. :) 

   Back to Crue:  there's no way anyone regularly appearing on a show as bad as Surreal Life can be taken seriously.    :hihi:

Sincerely,
Axl4Prez          Anyone agree with me? 



   

I can't see this happening either.  I just don't think Axl would even consider it.  If an opportunity to tour with U2 or NIN developed, he may consider that, but definitely not the Crue...

I like motley crue

but the have so much female nudity, badboy antics, offensive(4some) lyrics and wild shows

and gnr today seems to be on another track, building up a different profile

i hoped for judas priest(feb release and 05 tour) but they already married

who knows who they hook up with, metallica?

Did it ever occur to anyone that that Vince Neil and Axl arent on the best of terms. i mean Vince did sucker punch Izzy and Axl did vow to fight Vince because of it

The two would hardly get along. Personally, I think it'd be a kickass show, as long as Vince gets his shit together...

Vince would do it. They should do it for charity and possibly to kick off the release of CD.

However, Axl probably would'nt

Does anyone on this board realize that the world does not revolve around Guns N' Roses? It seems like anytime anything of any importance in the music world happens people want to attach GNR to it?

No, GNR is not touring with Motley Crue. Or Nine Inch Nails. Or U2. They will not be at the MTV Music Awards, the Super Bowl half time, MTV Music Awards Europe, doing a joint tour with Velvet Revolver, or any other of the insane shit all of you dream up.

It would never happen. As far as we know, Axl and Vince despise each other and the bands are totally on two different trajectories at the moment. The Crue reunion tour is a celebration of 1980's LA glam metal- basically a "look back" for the sake of some "old time" rock n' rolll fun. GN'R- if we ever see them again- will have very little do with all that- in fact Axl pretty much ditched that scene more than 15 years ago- even before UYI. Based on what Tommy told Jarmo- I don't Axl is still going ahead with all of this for nostalgia sake- rather he's looking to make an important political/artistic statement with his new music. A tour with the Crue is hardly the forum for that.

If Axl could ever get U2 to take them out on tour (and that's basically the situation- U2 would have to want GN'R- not the other way around)- then that would be ONE HELL of an opportunity for GN'R. I love U2 and I mean no disrespect- but imagine what it could mean to Guns if they could go out and blow U2 off the stage night after night all over the world. That would put Guns back on the map. Virtually exactly what Metallica did to Guns in '92. (Not saying Metallica is a better band than Guns- I would never say that- they were just more "on top of their game" in '92 compared to a crumbling by the second GN'R and really became MEGA stars because of their dominance (most nights) of GN'R on that tour).

Im not sure if its true...but I head MC runs their tracks on the system and Vince sings over them...because when they closed out the Game show Awards the other night some1 said that he didnt sing the chorus because he cant hit th ehigh notes anymore so he just let the studio take over...

if thats true thats pathetic

Well, what do you expect?  Look what web site you are at.  One that is dedicated for the band Guns N Roses.  You probably won't see GNR being talked about on the Cher board but you have a good chance with this board. 

I don't think any big popular band will tour with guns right away.  Maybe after they proved themselves after a while, but as of right now they will probably find some other no name bands like mix master mike to tour for them.  GNR will always headline, I couldn't see it any other way.   

I can't stand Motley and it's not because of their music, it's because of their attitude towards a certain favorite of mine.

never.. bad idea...   

Motley Crue is cheesy.


CHEESY.

I agree with most of the others here. Bad idea! Motley Crue are just doing a standard comeback thing. Guns undoubtebly has been bigger in their early days, but they're not a ridiculous comeback-band! Axl wants to accomplish something else besides making more money. He has vision..Vince Neil and the others are just has-beens.

It wont happen

They are already in touch with bands to tour??

Motley Crue it's not big enough to tour with Guns!!!!

Motley crue is a hair-metal band. It would make the new-GN'R come back be ridiculous and unpopular. That is not what GN'R is. Bring a RNR band instead. Oasis or U2 would be perfect to tour with GN'R. Or the white Stripes. Jolene, Jolene ohhh Jolene... ;)

Terrible idea.MC is the exact opposite of what nuGNR is tryin to be.
However i'd love to see nuGNR tour with bands such as Linkin Park or the Deftones.That would be some heavy shit

I don't understand this board's fascination with Motley Crue. I quite like MC, maybe I will see them next year on tour, but to me they were in a diffrent league to Guns n' Roses. For me, Axl could equally tour with Judas Priest or ACDC, and that would be much cooler than Motley Crue.

I agree with that he would do better to tour with a newer or more alternative band - personally I would hate to see him open for Linkin Park, Oasis even worse (I hate those wankers). NIN would be cool but it would be difficult to say whether it would work until we hear some of the new material.

Maybe MUSE, now that would be fucking cool. They are awesome live, they have a really progressive feeling and yet still rock, and its quite an epic experience. Whether Matt Belamy and Axl would get on well, but who the hell would get on with him?!

They already tried that once.

No need to try to repeat history.  : ok:





/jarmo

I think the answer is obvious, Axl shouldn't tour with motley crap.  He should tour with Fiona Apple, then they could both storm off stage every night.  ;D

nah.. i love motley crue but gnr would be better off having jet or something open for em..

Nine Inch Nails, maybe! But not U2. The day i see GNR and U2 on the same stage, then i gotto reconsider my GNR fanstatus! U2 is a poor band! Plays poor music! And they play two totaly different musicstyles!

Nin and GNR would be the greatest thing happening!
Motley Crue and GNR would also be awsome! But it wont happen!

They always had backin tracks on dr.feelgod- some errors occured under that performance, it was funny as hell :hihi:

Guess it won't happen, maybe contraband would fit, but gnr seem a little different than them

maybe a new band, that not hit it big yet?

I hope you were joking about The Darkness - they're a shitty parody of the kind of music GNR, Queen, Motley Crue make. GNR are serious musicians. God, fuck that.

Same here. its seems lots of people on this board are into hair-metal/metal/heavy-metal/indus-metal or everything that contains the word "Metal". I though GN'R fans were mainly ROCK fans. You know it worries me when I see a GN'R record in "metal-section" in music stores. seeing the name "Guns n' Roses" in the same section as craddle of filth, panthera, or any oither silly Metal bands is weird :confused:? I think it's not the right place for GN'R. It's not metal, never was and never will be. And I also don't want to see the name GN'R beeing associated with anything metal (to tour with a metal band or anything like that).
Let's play Rock n' Roll, not Metal.

i can't believe a guns n' roses fan would even suggest that...

yep, I'm sure the same would also suggest...Poison. or maybe Cinderella? :confused:

I have seen a bunch of GNR fans suggest they tour with a band like Lincoln Park.....that only happens if GNR plans on opening for them. In the musical landscape they need to worry about getting their name back out there with a strong album before talk of a tour should even be suggested.

thats's stupid, those band copied motley and gnr toured with motley b4

Ok, someone on here suggested GNR touring with U2.  Now I think U2 is a very good band, but it's not even the same music.  There is now way GNR would tour with U2.  It's like saying that GNR should tour with Duran Duran.  C-Mon  :no:

I must agree on this one partly.
I don't consider metal rock silly at all and I know some of AFD songs are quite LA metalish.
However GNR on the whole is above petty sectionalism or genres, especially now. Well, maybe it's been Hard rock up to now.

I?ve got Bad news for you.
In many countries GN'R is put into a category of heavy metal. It's been so from the start.
You would find GN'R records more than often in "metal-section" at record shops along with bloody Led Zeppelin and Aerosmith.. among matal bands like Craddle of filth, Panthera, Poison Cinderella, Metallica and so on. Mostly metal magazines write about them. Although Their Fav is VR at the moment, those Metal writers never fucking leave Axl alone.

Really You  haven't heard of that? ???

Yeah GN'R and U2 play different music- but who exactly plays the "same" music as GN'R? Anyway, virtually every GN'R fan I know likes U2 as well. They would definitely be contrasting sets in style- but it would also be a mega-tour of the two most important rock bands of the last 20 years and would give the new band an opportunity to shine. It would easily be the tour of the decade. I think that's the kind of thing Axl wants to be a part of. I don't think he's too interested in playing half-full arenas in Fargo, ND with whoever today's Buckcherry is just because they have an album that's 1/10 as good as AFD.

U2 is not an important band! They dont make good music! And the two bands are too different.
GNR should get someone who people are intrested in seeing  :beer:

A tour with U2 wouldn't happen because A) U2 doesn't need GNR to sell out arenas, and B) Axl would never be willing to open for them, and U2 would most certainly be considered the headlining act in a GNR/U2 tour, no matter how much Guns fans might think otherwise.

DITTO

I agree that it is highly unlikely- why would U2 ever want to put their practically spotless international reputation on the line by playing with a band that seems to pack trouble in their luggage everytime they hit the road? Bono does need to subject his reputation to Axl's bullshit.

I'm just saying that if Axl could ever pull his shit together and behave himself- a tour with U2 and access to all those fans could damn well save his career.

Not a good idea. Crue are looking to the past and are going on a farewell tour. GNR are looking to the future and starting something new. As far as how Vince and Axl would get along, VInce got back with Tommy and they really don`t like each other, so I think Vince wouldn`t care, but Axl probrally still has ill feelings.

What about Jet? they seem to be great.  : ok:
BUt my favourite choice for an opening act goes to the White Stripes. The white Stripes(opening act, 1H) + GN'R (main act, 2H) would be amaziing.

 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:


LP couldnt even put on a quarter of a performance that GNR put on nevermind headlining over GNR. LP is the most overated band. I used to like them but it gets old when they do the same thing over and over again. Throw in the collaborations with JZ{I love Jayz} Lp are a joke.


GNR will be opening for NOBODY. ?They will have their own tour and headline that tour. CAse Closed not even worth discussing. As for opening acts. It will probably be differetn kinds of bands that the band likes. I can see liek a major headling tour a few yrs down the road but for the first tour it will be liek the 2002 tour but with a CD set.

Its really not funny or preposterous...but thats your defense mechanism, I understand.



Irrelevant.  Drawing power is what matters, not  Younggunners opinion.


So you used to like LP, and love Jay-Z, but somehow its a joke?  ???  I guess debuting at #1 was a joke too. :-\

Linkin Park co-headlined stadiums (within this decade too!).  So you thinking theyre a joke isnt as important as their popularity and ability to sell tickets and records.

Anyway, pretending GNR will ever tour again, Id like to see Silvertide or the Distillers open for them (both acts that opened for VR as well).

Yes, Booker LP is a much better live act and deserve to headline over GNR  : ok:

The day GNR use a lesser band to headline over them to sell tickets and gain popularity is the day i walk away.

Highly dought it would happen..Both are trying to recreate themselves

what if they could get a tour together with aerosmith...? is that stupid? i dunno, i think that would be cool, and i think that aerosmith is secure enough, that they would open for the new GNR - maybe throw ACDC in there too -   ???

I thought about that too, they rock- but aerosmith do the more classic rock stuff,

but maybe musical difference don't mean shit :beer:

I am not saying LP is a better band than GNR, I am just suggesting that in terms of popularity in the rock world right now they dwarf GNR, so I was just saying they would never tour with GNR, because they don't need them to sell out arena's, and frankly they're more popular than GNR. That's all, I know it is hard to understand sometimes why a band some people find to be musically inferior is more popular than our favorite band, but that is the reality of the music industry right now, and suggesting otherwise is just kidding yourself.


And to everyone else suggesting a band like Aerosmith, again, what incentive is there to tour with GNR? None of those bands will let Axl go on after them, and they don't need GNR anyway, as they are still tremendous drawing acts. Axl isn't going to open for anyone, so any talk of GNR ever touring with an established band is ridiculous at least in the near future when it is still up in the air as to how big a draw GNR really is. It's not 1990 anymore, and they are going to need help to draw in smaller to midsize markets, but no one is going to want to tour with them and the hassle's that go along with it. And GNR won't want to tour with anyone that would possibly show them up, so we will continue the likes of CKY and DJ's opening up for Guns.

I think that when GN'R tours, they'll take out some young band.

Motley Crue doesn't fall under that category. Neither does Poison or any other bands from that era.


Queens Of The Stone Age was supposed to open for GN'R in Europe in 2001. A band that was unknown for the masses at that point. CKY got the opening slot in 2002.

None of them are from the 80s L.A. scene.




/jarmo

yes, That's my though too. Jet would be great.

i thnk that too, soneone who hasn?t hit it big yet

No offense but I think thats a terrible idea. Aside from the obvious dislike Vince and Axl have for eachother, as many people have already pointed out, the circumstances around each band touring with eachother are the total opposite. Motley Crue is in it purely for the cash and to drum up publicity for their movie, and besides that I heard that they did a HORRIBLE performance of Dr. Feelgood at an awards show or something last night. Apparently the vox were really sketchy in spots and Vince would sing lines where they did not belong. I think GnR will tour with a relatively new act or a largely unknown act much alike they did in the last tour. I dont think they want to share the stage with a renowned 80s glam band who were around the first time GnR were in their hey-day.

id love this if it is done exactly the way the kiss/poison 04 tour was done they hav a kick ass underground opening band (hopefully my cousins band red means go)to play like 30 minutes. then crue gos on(they have to play dr. fell good every night) for an hour or 75 minutes then Gnr plays a 12 hour marathon or like 2 hours but im hoping for the first one. : ok: 

All this talk about popular bands either opening up for, or touring with New GNR is insanity!!!   

NOBODY is going to risk touring with a band that is going to steal all the press (in this case New GNR).  Plus, nobody knows what Axl's gonna do next.

Steven Tyler, Bono, Axl...all of these are names of guys who don't open for anyone else...they don't have to.  ;)  And no, Vince Neil isn't anywhere near these guys in talent or popularity.

-Axl4Prez   :peace:

yeah it sucks, vince is like satisfied with what he's done and don't put too much effort in that anymore

but there are other people in that band, talented and popular :beer:
think a tour with gnr will prolly not happen and imo not fit :-\

Im going to see the Crue on March 17, 2005 here in Dallas.  Anyone who has seen the Real Crue knows they put on a Hell of a show.  I wish Gun's would get its act together and get on the road in 2005!!!!  I keep reading rumors that C.D is done and they are waiting for the "Right" time for it to come out.  Put the Damn thing out and go on a 2 year tour for the Fans.  Axl would quickly regain his status as a Rock God!

GnR ain't never gonna tour with them.

But listen...I'm gonna see them in Orlando so if anybody wants to meet me up there, pm me!  :smoking:

Well, I still say GN'R would pass on the Crue or any other band of that era.  They apparently agree with their selection of CKY on the last tour.  I don't have any problem with the Crue at all and would probably like to check them out; I think Tommy Lee is an amazing drummer and easily one of the better ones of the last 10 - 15 years.  But, GN'R don't want that image.  They should just go out to smaller venues and establish themselves with new material.  Axl is still good enough to do that, but he has to understand he just can't go out and sellout huge stadiums.  He should start out with smaller venues and let his performance, along with a new album, enhance the reputation of the 'new GN'R'.....

I agree. I still think MUSE and GNR would be a fucking great collaboration...MUSE are seen as one of the leaders of the new wave of progressive rock music, they are not as miserable as RADIOHEAD and put on a great show. I think U2 are too big for the new GNR, NIN probably a little too niche but MUSE would fit in just right. I'm not sure about JET or the WHITE STRIPES, I think they are a little too garage rock...you know it appears Axl's writing some pretty epic stuff and I think he needs a band that will compliment this style.

I saw the darkness two weeks ago and they don't deserve to be on the same stage as GNR

Why the fuck not? Heavy Metal is great! I don't have any shame about saying that, as unfashionable as it might be. Back in the ol' days a lot of heavy metal fans took GNR to their hearts (before they became mainstream)....it had the attitude, the punky feel, and Axl's voice was reminiscent of some other heavy metal singers. Maybe in the US, GNR were doing the whole LA thing, but in the UK GNR were firmly placed in the metal camp....they played Donnington, featured on the show 'Heavy Metal Heaven' and were adored by Kerrang. All of my 'non metal' friends at school bashed GNR and took the piss out of them.....these were the same people that later played SCOM and Paradise City endlessly on their stereos as soon as they became more popular in the charts. Axl and Slash were massive fans of Metallica back then, and I'm pretty sure they enjoyed a lot of other metal bands.

One of the things that makes me so interested in Chinese Democracy is that I think it is going to be a very far reaching album - one that will appeal to old and new fans, fans of rock, metal, industrial - fortunately I like all of these types of music so there's a good chance I'm gonna love whatever he puts out! (just not too many songs like 'My World' please)

The idea of GNR touring with Motley Crue made me laugh.  Thanks for that.   :rofl:

If ... (and I feel the bile rise up my throat as I begin to type this)  If ... GNR & Motley Crue toured together... who would open for who?  I mean... GNR opened back for Motley in the early days, and blew them off the stage every night. 

Motley is now nothing but a bunch of washed up hasbeens looking for a taste of the good ole glory days (and, of course the cash).  That doesn't mean that I don't like some of the old stuff, I do!  But, the very fact that they have rebanded for the reunion tour demonstrates a lack of credibility as true artists and puts them in the same category as KISS - just in it for the money, honey.

Motley and Guns??? No way, simply because I dont believe that Guns will ever tour again. ? :'(

After watching the performance MC put on at the video game award show, they shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence with GNR.

FOr those who thought the gnrs vma performance was bad I would love to hear what you have to say about this performance. What an absolute friggen joke. It was probably the most pathetic rock performance ive ever seen.

GNR would blow this band out of the water. Its not even an issue.

Just to aks anyone regardless of motley crue, or nins, or whoever that's popular making a comeback..

Why would you want to share venues with so many non gnr fans?? I want to see new gnr with a small band so the places are packed with gnr fans, but that's just me, especially on a comeback tour..

I want to see non GNR fans blown away with GNR music and fall for them.
But not the Motley crowd, preferably, so sorry?

When are they in Orlando?

never gonna happen, and thank god it wont

Oasis and GNR.  That would be a lot of drama for one bill.   I could see the back stage fights right now. 

I just want to bash Vince for a sec. he is a fat, cheesy, piece of trash that never wrote a legitimate song! Hell, he couldnt even take care of his own daughter! I know two things for sure in life, one, Axl would kick Vince's ass, and two, if Axl had children, they wouldnt be dieing, because Axl is a real man, and would save them with the power of his music...Vince is a douche bag. Period.

Wow...how incredibly stupid.  You should reevaluate your entire outlook on life.

because I don't want to see the name "Guns n' Roses" associated with anything Metal. That's as simple as that.
Mark Knopfler (remember Dire Straits  :yes:) would be great. He is a true artist and a great (Blues)man.

I agree with "metal" being associated with Gn'R. It shouldn't exist. That is why the metal countdown on VH1 was a joke "estranged" being a awesomely bad metal song my ass. It is a bad metal song. This is the reason why Vh1 f'n' idiots cause it is not a metal song. You are dumb motherfuckers!!!

You have no fucking right to use Vince doughter?s death as a way of bashing Vince.You clearley have no idea of hapened to her.She had to go threw thousands of operations within weeks, she had parts of her liver, pancreas, stomache and almost her whole chest infected.All this parts of her body were bigger? because of the infection, so that made her hard to breath.Save them with the power of his music??Do yourself a favor and shut up.If? Axl had a son and he had the same thing Vince daughter had, she wouldnt have had a chance, just like Vince daughter didnt.Dont put her in the midle of a discution between Axl and Vince.Bastard......









Baby Slash//

yes, but he was the one who them a commercial hit, respect 2 him 4 that :beer:

and he was amazing durin shout at the devil-best vince vocal ever :peace:

maybe they will end up playing at the same week sometimes if gnr also tours the world 05?

As usual, a thread about somebody touring with GN'R turns into a thread about how much that band sucks or how great they are.

Go read the Bad Obsession section.




/jarmo