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Title: Most innovative band ever
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on February 03, 2005, 11:58:18 PM
I an going to post two -  Mr. Bungle and Ween... want to hear what you think too  - but if you post mainstream be prepared to be reaped - Green Day doesn't live here


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Tied-Up on February 04, 2005, 12:09:40 AM
Faith No More & System of a Down


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 04, 2005, 12:36:38 AM
Probably Beatles, The Experience.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: D on February 04, 2005, 12:48:39 AM
prince

u cant fuck with it

every style the man has done and done well

there will never be another single musician as diverse,talented and prolific

nothing like him before and will never be anything like him ever


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: journey on February 04, 2005, 12:50:35 AM
I say the Beatles also. I also think GNR is an innovative Band. The contrast between AFD and UYI 1 & 2 is very apparent, but both are of equal quality.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Walk on February 04, 2005, 02:52:07 AM
Judas Priest. While Sabbath created metal, Priest kept it alive and going during the UK punk era. Zeppelin and Sabbath were going downhill fast in the late 70's and sounding very dated. Metal may have died out as a 70's fad if not for their work! Priest was probably the first band to have great, classical style singing (Halford would not sound out of place in an opera!). Power metal singers owe their style to Halford, combining classical singing with metal.

At their time, Priest was the fastest metal band around. Sabbath was slow and droning. Priest was very fast, they used dual guitar melodies unequaled for their time, and they were still a very dark band. Their leather look gave metal an image and identity. They did have some pop-ish songs like United or Take on the World to bring in the masses, and then bring on Beyond the Realms of Death or Victim of Changes to blow them away!  :peace:

While I look to Maiden as the greatest metal band ever and Sabbath as the originators of the art, Judas Priest had the greatest role in perfecting it and keeping it alive. 2nd place I would give to Bathory, because I like black metal.

Mr. Bungle, meh, that's good music, but it's weird for weirdness's sake. Priest gets credit because they deserve it.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on February 04, 2005, 09:53:34 AM
If you hear Sad Wings of Destiny you can hear an influence by Queen, so Judas Priest at the Time would have heard Queen, Guns N Roses have Influenced by Queen, and Queen were influenced by The Platters, Jimmy Hendrix, The Beatlles, Opera and stuff like that, if we dig a little more the beattles were influenced mostly by Elvis Presley, elvis presley were influenced by Bobby Darin and his 50's culture of Pop, gospel and R & Blues culture, so I have to give my vote to Elvis.  : ok:


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Izzy on February 04, 2005, 11:03:01 AM
If you hear Sad Wings of Destiny you can hear an influence by Queen, so Judas Priest at the Time would have heard Queen, Guns N Roses have Influenced by Queen, and Queen were influenced by The Platters, Jimmy Hendrix, The Beatlles, Opera and stuff like that, if we dig a little more the beattles were influenced mostly by Elvis Presley, elvis presley were influenced by Bobby Darin and his 50's culture of Pop, gospel and R & Blues culture, so I have to give my vote to Elvis.? : ok:

Have u managed a post where u don't mention Queen? :hihi:


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: captain_corona on February 04, 2005, 11:10:15 AM
The Jimi Hendrix?Experience :smoking:


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Tj on February 04, 2005, 01:43:32 PM
prince

u cant fuck with it

every style the man has done and done well

there will never be another single musician as diverse,talented and prolific

nothing like him before and will never be anything like him ever

Most innovative band, D  :P


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Tied-Up on February 04, 2005, 02:00:01 PM
I don't argue that Prince is an amazing artist.? One of the best ever.

Innovative yes.

I'm a huge fan, always have been.

OMG!(http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/cwm/eek2.gif) Does this mean that D and I actually AGREE on something?

Someone call hell and check on my buddy Satan for me, I think hell may have frozen over.? (http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/ruinkai/FIREdevil.gif)


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: the dirt on February 04, 2005, 02:57:45 PM
I long time ago I read that Trent Reznor signed a band to his label that made their music using power tools and such things. Don't know the name of the band , or if they've ever done anything, but it's an innovative idea if you ask me.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: KeVoRkIaN on February 04, 2005, 05:43:39 PM
That band is Einsturzende Neubauten - they certainly were innovative as were Kraftwerk


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: fesxine on February 04, 2005, 06:38:51 PM
The Velvet Underground and Pink Floyd


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Ignatius on February 05, 2005, 08:39:19 AM
I an going to post two -? Mr. Bungle and Ween... want to hear what you think too? - but if you post mainstream be prepared to be reaped - Green Day doesn't live here


I don't think no one has posted anything other than mainstream so far  :hihi:

I'll go with the Pixies and Dinosaur Jr. as two of the most influencial, innovative, most underrated bands ever in the history of music. Hadn't the Pixies existed, bands like Nirvana, Radiohead or even Pearl Jam wouldn't have surfaced.



Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Lord Blackadder on February 05, 2005, 04:17:25 PM
*cough* Queen *cough* G n' R learned from Queen. No Queen = no Darkness, no Muse, no Radiohead (no Ok Computer anyway) and G n' R wouldnt be the same. The UYI's albums are a mixture of light and dark, heavy and soft. Guess who they learned that from? It begins with a Q.

Pink Floyd were innovative aswell, they knew how to go off the rails and do something totally ubsurd but knew when to stop so as to not take it to far.

Lets not forget Mr Brian Wilson either. What would The Beach Boys be without his amazing harmonies and songwriting skills.

You have to say Hendrix because of who he has influenced with the guitar (Clapton, Van Halen, Slash, May, Page, Blackmore...)

But The Beatles influenced everybody even if you don't like them, whoever you learned from learned their stuff from John, Paul, Ringo and George. With only a couple of exceptions (people like Little Richard and some Elvis stuff) nothing before The Beatles was really any good.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: ppbebe on February 05, 2005, 04:46:12 PM
no mainstream innovative band

The Can, Einsurzende Nebauten, Kraftwerk, Throbbing Gristle,  Jesus and Mary Chain, Cream
---- just off the top of my head. :-\


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: D on February 05, 2005, 04:53:27 PM
No Darkness? now that would be a great thing! : ok:


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Oddy on February 06, 2005, 01:46:44 AM
No Darkness? now that would be a great thing! : ok:

whats wrong with the Darkness?

i think i know why D doesn't like them. It's because everytime he watches one of their videos he finds himself strangely aroused by the cat suits. to avoid any insecurities he just says they're crap. yep thats my analysis, :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

i think bands like Yes were pretty innovative. they were at the forefront of the whole progressive rock/metal thing. gave way to bands like dream theatre and stuff.

i guess the mars volta are pretty innovative and they're very recent. hmmmm it seems as time goes on to be innovative you have to make your music weirder and weirder ???


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: D on February 06, 2005, 02:21:21 AM
they are ok but they are annoying and more of a parody to me then a serious band.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on February 06, 2005, 07:09:54 AM
by innovative you mean they invented something ?

well guns n roses,  the darkness, surely didnt invent anything.

rage against the machine, faith no more, queen,  ... but at the end, there will always be a obscure non-famous band that did IT before the big ones.

mozart and his friends (i"m sure he had friend) was kinda innovative


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Dave_Rose on February 06, 2005, 08:34:42 AM
guns n roses and queen!!!


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: D on February 06, 2005, 11:23:01 AM
Mars Volta i have listened to a couple of their songs and they are strangely weird but great! : ok:

I think the Chili Peppers are innovative
Prince is innovative because he fused so many different styles into one and was the youngest artist to ever be allowed to produce himself.

His videos and style were also innovative plus was one of the first artists to use the internet as a means to break away from record labels.


look at the new way he sold his Musicology cd

that was innovative

he included the cd with every ticket sold and it counted towards albums sold

so if he had 4 concerts in a week and sold 40,000 tickets that counted as 40,000 copies of the cd sold

new innovative way to beat the internet

gotta love that!


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: fesxine on February 06, 2005, 12:01:22 PM
David Bowie was and is innovative and inventive.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: estranged88 on February 06, 2005, 02:55:40 PM
Judas Priest. While Sabbath created metal, Priest kept it alive and going during the UK punk era. Zeppelin and Sabbath were going downhill fast in the late 70's and sounding very dated. Metal may have died out as a 70's fad if not for their work! Priest was probably the first band to have great, classical style singing (Halford would not sound out of place in an opera!). Power metal singers owe their style to Halford, combining classical singing with metal.

At their time, Priest was the fastest metal band around. Sabbath was slow and droning. Priest was very fast, they used dual guitar melodies unequaled for their time, and they were still a very dark band. Their leather look gave metal an image and identity. They did have some pop-ish songs like United or Take on the World to bring in the masses, and then bring on Beyond the Realms of Death or Victim of Changes to blow them away!  :peace:

While I look to Maiden as the greatest metal band ever and Sabbath as the originators of the art, Judas Priest had the greatest role in perfecting it and keeping it alive. 2nd place I would give to Bathory, because I like black metal.

Mr. Bungle, meh, that's good music, but it's weird for weirdness's sake. Priest gets credit because they deserve it.


YOU BEAT ME TO IT!......


Sabbath forged the metal........PRIEST SHARPEND THE STEEL!


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Mikkamakka on February 06, 2005, 04:54:37 PM
David Bowie was and is innovative and inventive.
I like Bowie, but he's more a trend-follower than an innovative person.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: the dirt on February 06, 2005, 04:59:05 PM

Quote from: Mikkamakka link=topic=18464.msg315966#msg315966
I like Bowie, but he's more a trend-follower than an innovative person.
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Well there are those who say he started glam, if not in musical substance, then with the look at least.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 06, 2005, 10:58:34 PM
Whoever thinks GnR is one of the most innovative bands ever needs to stop smoking the pipe.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: kj_jive on February 08, 2005, 09:38:56 AM
Kevorkian, I agree with the Ween and Mr. Bungle.  Finally another Ween fan, they are one of my top five bands!  Emerson, Lake and Palmer were another innovative band as they fused classical, jazz, psychadelic and rock into one beautiful mix.  Beck is another who doesn't fail to provide always fresh sounding music.  And of course, Floyd, Radiohead, Beatles and Beach Boys all pushed the envelope in terms of original ideas and studio greatness.  And whoever said that Bowie was more of a trend follower than starter, fuck off.  That's a completely ignorant statement.  Wilco is also a current band who is always trying new things.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on February 08, 2005, 01:05:38 PM
If you hear Sad Wings of Destiny you can hear an influence by Queen, so Judas Priest at the Time would have heard Queen, Guns N Roses have Influenced by Queen, and Queen were influenced by The Platters, Jimmy Hendrix, The Beatlles, Opera and stuff like that, if we dig a little more the beattles were influenced mostly by Elvis Presley, elvis presley were influenced by Bobby Darin and his 50's culture of Pop, gospel and R & Blues culture, so I have to give my vote to Elvis.? : ok:
Have u managed a post where u don't mention Queen? :hihi:
I'll give you a dollar for every post you find  :), even though I gave my vote to elvis  :confused:


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: journey on February 08, 2005, 10:28:41 PM
Whoever thinks GnR is one of the most innovative bands ever needs to stop smoking the pipe.

They may not be the "most" innovative band ever, but that doesn't mean they lack innovation. You can't deny that the video trilogy was innovative. And the way the UYI 1 & 2 albums were released, was also something that had never been done before.

I think the song "Madagascar" is innovative. The incorporation of movie quotes to tell a story is different, but it works and makes the song interesting.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: BP on February 09, 2005, 11:49:40 AM
Whoever thinks GnR is one of the most innovative bands ever needs to stop smoking the pipe.

& put on some headphones to listen to the Dark Side of The Moon... all done on Tape. No digital nonsense. This page has a few albums that technically blows away most of the bands listed so far
http://www.magictails.com/cdpink.html  -BP


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Pryor Murphy on February 09, 2005, 12:02:39 PM
Sister Flo is quite Innovative and original. Download some of their songs in their web site and see what I mean when I say original.(I recommend song called "White Noise" : ok:)

http://www.hansoovoice.com/sisterflo/
 


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: kj_jive on February 10, 2005, 02:50:51 PM
Whoever thinks GnR is one of the most innovative bands ever needs to stop smoking the pipe.

& put on some headphones to listen to the Dark Side of The Moon... all done on Tape. No digital nonsense. This page has a few albums that technically blows away most of the bands listed so far
http://www.magictails.com/cdpink.html? -BP

wow, more pink...Pink Floyd has been listed numerous times before.  Nobody's even arguing their credibility.


Title: Re: Most innovative band ever
Post by: Mikkamakka on February 11, 2005, 03:24:11 AM
Sister Flo is quite Innovative and original. Download some of their songs in their web site and see what I mean when I say original.(I recommend song called "White Noise" : ok:)

http://www.hansoovoice.com/sisterflo/
 

I can't hear why they would be innovative. To tell the truth there is nothing innovative.  :no: