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Title: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: journey on June 18, 2005, 03:04:05 AM
It seems like only white women get kidnapped, or go missing. Why doesn't the news report any missing men, or black women? Why just white women?

What do you think is going on?


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 18, 2005, 04:17:31 AM
Journey, I'm glad I'm not the only person who has noticed this. Its been going on for years. This really happens when it comes to missing and murdered kids. You hear about white upper middle class kids like Jonbenet Ramsey,Polly Klaas, and Natalie Holliway, but you never hear about the missing minorities. Its strange! I dont understand the reason behind it. I think it has more to do with the seperation of the classes than it does racism. Because you never hear about the poor white kids that go missing either.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 18, 2005, 05:04:34 AM
It seems like only white women get kidnapped, or go missing. Why doesn't the news report any missing men, or black women? Why just white women?

What do you think is going on?

I've noticed this.



Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: journey on June 18, 2005, 11:55:30 AM
Journey, I'm glad I'm not the only person who has noticed this. Its been going on for years. This really happens when it comes to missing and murdered kids. You hear about white upper middle class kids like Jonbenet Ramsey,Polly Klaas, and Natalie Holliway, but you never hear about the missing minorities. Its strange! I dont understand the reason behind it. I think it has more to do with the seperation of the classes than it does racism. Because you never hear about the poor white kids that go missing either.

You're right about that.

According to a study, it has a lot to do with a lack of diversity in newsrooms. Many reporters, editors and news producers identify more with people like them, who are white.

I personally think it needs to change, because it's not fair to other families.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 18, 2005, 03:14:59 PM
dave chappel did a bit about it.

very funny.

with the moment where terrorists call the white house and are like

"ok, we got 2 black peop......" - hang up phone beeep beeep beeep ..........
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

or dave is like in a plane and terrorist are on board, and an other black dude looks at dave and they give each other the thumb up ... one white lady sees that and is lik "oh i think these man are gonna try to save us ..."

and daves goes " no, we just know that we ain't gonna be captured ...."

funny :)


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: Tied-Up on June 18, 2005, 03:20:14 PM
It's an example of media bias.  They make these determinations on what you should see, know and believe based on their own set of agendas.  It's not limited to missing people either. 

It's all about sensationalism, and controlling you, the viewer, and limiting your world view to the way they want you to see it. 


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 18, 2005, 03:27:02 PM
Our society focuses on beauty and wealth.

These kids profiled are usually both good looking, talented, and upper middle class/rich.

The bottom line: This sells more.

Only conclusion I can come up with.

*****

Thousands of murders/kidnappings every year.

Look at who they report:

The girl in Arubua (pretty)

Girl In Utah (Pretty/wealthy)

Lacy Peterson (pretty-and for all purposes Scott was a handsome guy)

Ramsey (pretty/wealth)

Pretty people grab headlines and keep people watching. Poor unattractive people do not.

News is about one thing: ratings and keeping their sponsors happy. That's it.



Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: Axls Locomotive on June 18, 2005, 04:03:41 PM
certainly in recent times, the UK media isnt as bad as the US media...you see kidnappings on the news no matter the colour of those kidnapped...

although the UK media does display plenty of bias in other matters


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: D on June 18, 2005, 05:36:30 PM
U have to also take into account all these stories on the news are pretty crazy and out there movie type plots.

they are pretty interesting and entertaining scenarios.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 18, 2005, 06:43:40 PM
SLCPunk, you make a good point. They're not just selling beauty, they're selling sex itself. I'll never forget that Jonbenet Ramsey case. They completely sexualized that little girl. They rarely showed normal pictures of her. It was always provocative poses and video footage of her flirting with the camera. It was sick. But I was one of the ones that fell for that Elizabeth Smart story. I know she was only 14 or 15, but DAMN that girl was HOT! I would watch the various shows, see her pics and her piano recital video footage. I would look forward to new pics of her. This must have been the case with alot of other people too, because every week or so they would come up with some new pics/video footage to keep the fascination going. We live in a sex obsessed culture corroded in extreme filth. Its hard to believe society has come to this. God help us all!


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 18, 2005, 06:46:44 PM
SLCPunk, you make a good point. They're not just selling beauty, they're selling sex itself. I'll never forget that Jonbenet Ramsey case. They completely sexualized that little girl. They rarely showed normal pictures of her. It was always provocative poses and video footage of her flirting with the camera. It was sick. But I was one of the ones that fell for that Elizabeth Smart story. I know she was only 14 or 15, but DAMN that girl was HOT! I would watch the various shows, see her pics and her piano recital video footage. I would look forward to new pics of her. This must have been the case with alot of other people too, because every week or so they would come up with some new pics/video footage to keep the fascination going. We live in a sex obsessed culture corroded in extreme filth. Its hard to believe society has come to this. God help us all!

It keeps the interest level up doesn't it?

That is all they want....

To keep you coming back.

Our news.....is not news.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 18, 2005, 06:54:02 PM
yeah, the sexual tenson of these stories definitely keeps the interest up. But after the story dies down, these victims become disposable garbage. The media never does any follow up stories. Heard about Jonbenet's UNSOLVED murder recently? Or Elizabeth Smart's trouble in dealing with the trauma she endured? No you haven't, and you never will. Our society has moved on to other sex objects. And these 'new" sex objects(the aruba girl) are the next breed of disposable garbage. Sad but true.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 18, 2005, 07:13:08 PM
yeah, the sexual tenson of these stories definitely keeps the interest up. But after the story dies down, these victims become disposable garbage. The media never does any follow up stories. Heard about Jonbenet's UNSOLVED murder recently? Or Elizabeth Smart's trouble in dealing with the trauma she endured? No you haven't, and you never will. Our society has moved on to other sex objects. And these 'new" sex objects(the aruba girl) are the next breed of disposable garbage. Sad but true.

Yup. That is why I don't watch much tv. I read online.

MJ trial is over, who is next? Well right now they are still talking about MJ, interviewing his lawyer, the jurors, etc etc.

The segue now is the girl in Aruba who has disapeared. Everyday with her now.

Next it will be something else.

Child molestation and kidnapping/murder are not trivial by any means and I do not mean to discount them. But on the other hand when will news ever be reported again? This is CNN and all the others paying nothing but attention to these sexed up stories.

It dumbs down the American people for sure.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: N.I.B on June 18, 2005, 09:53:36 PM
what else is new? minorities are always ingnored. better get used to it, white people in a couple of years will be a minority  :no:

just in response to journey's start

crime breakdown*
rape - black
child molestation - white
robbery - black
theift - white
drug trafficing - white
prostitution - black
murder - both
arson - white

*majority of race commiting the crimes


Title: Not All Missing Persons Are Equal
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 19, 2005, 04:15:27 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/17/earlyshow/living/main702549.shtml

(CBS) As the search continues for Natalee Holloway in Aruba, the family of another missing woman expresses frustration.

A year ago this week, a 24-year-old African-American woman named Tamika Huston of Spartanburg, S.C., was reported missing by her family. Most who know all about Holloway, probably haven't heard of Huston, although her family has tried everything it could to get national media attention.

According to FBI statistics, African-Americans and other minorities make up a larger portion of missing victims than the media represents. However, cases like Huston's often get little attention.

Huston's aunt, Rebkah Howard, who is a public relations professional, tried to develop national concern by having her family distribute fliers, hold a press conference, and create a Web site to get mass media attention, but the story was primarily ignored.

As the search continues for Holloway, who is white, an article in USA Today June 16 asks why the media doesn't show more concern about missing blacks, Hispanics and other minorities. While no one is suggesting that the media ignore Holloway's story, critics point to a trend.

Howard tells The Early Show co-anchor Hannah Storm she doesn't believe executive producers and newsroom staff consciously exclude persons of color, but notes it is important for the media to take a critical look at which cases they cover.

"What I believe is happening," Howard says, "is that networks have found a formula that has worked for them. And they tend to be about young, white attractive, middle- to upper-class women. And they continue to follow those stories. As one is resolved, they'll move on to the next one. I was met with a lot of resistance when I tried to get national attention for this case. It has been unfortunate."

Just recall the stories of Jennifer Wilbanks, the missing bride, Laci Peterson and Lori Hacking, the missing pregnant wives, and Elizabeth Smart, the young woman from Salt Lake City. They were all white, young, attractive, middle-class, American women.

According to FBI statistics and USA Today, men are more likely than women to be reported missing,and blacks make up a disproportionately large segment of the victims. However, you wouldn't know that from watching television, listening to the radio or reading national newspapers.

Since May 1, FBI statistics indicate there were 25,389 men and 22,200 women listed as missing. Of the total of missing women since May 1, 8,681 were minorities (this includes Asian, African-American, American Indian and other minorities except Hispanics.) This compares to 13,519 white and Hispanic women. (It is not clear how many of those are Hispanic.)

"I would really hope that the media would just come to us and help us, says Huston's father, Anthony. "Getting national media coverage in the beginning, we really think that could have helped us out."

Howard notes the circumstances of her niece's disappearance from Spartanburg were very suspicious.

She explains, "We don't know exactly the date that Tamika was last seen, but we're estimating, based on the police investigation, it was between May 24 to the 26. In mid-June, her car was discovered at an apartment complex not too far from where she lived in a single-family home. A key that was left in her vehicle traced back to an apartment that was formerly lived in by an acquaintance of Tamika. They found blood in that apartment that matched Tamika's DNA and police continue to investigate at this point."

Tamika Huston's body has not been found.

Huston's family also expressed their sympathy for Natalee Holloway's family.



Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: Queen of Everything on June 19, 2005, 06:48:59 PM
Our society focuses on beauty and wealth.

These kids profiled are usually both good looking, talented, and upper middle class/rich.

The bottom line: This sells more.

Only conclusion I can come up with.

*****

Thousands of murders/kidnappings every year.

Look at who they report:

The girl in Arubua (pretty)

Girl In Utah (Pretty/wealthy)

Lacy Peterson (pretty-and for all purposes Scott was a handsome guy)

Ramsey (pretty/wealth)

Pretty people grab headlines and keep people watching. Poor unattractive people do not.

News is about one thing: ratings and keeping their sponsors happy. That's it.



Hey - nice point!!!


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 19, 2005, 09:11:45 PM



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Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: Queen of Everything on June 20, 2005, 07:25:24 AM



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Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 20, 2005, 08:05:48 AM
Our society focuses on beauty and wealth.

These kids profiled are usually both good looking, talented, and upper middle class/rich.

The bottom line: This sells more.

Only conclusion I can come up with.

*****

Thousands of murders/kidnappings every year.

Look at who they report:

The girl in Arubua (pretty)

Girl In Utah (Pretty/wealthy)

Lacy Peterson (pretty-and for all purposes Scott was a handsome guy)

Ramsey (pretty/wealth)

Pretty people grab headlines and keep people watching. Poor unattractive people do not.

News is about one thing: ratings and keeping their sponsors happy. That's it.



i wouldnt go as far as "pretty"
catherine zeta jone is pretty.


do you think that richer people are prettier ?
its like when im driving on the freeway, and i see a nice car - real nice -, 80% of the times, a pretty girl is driving it.
why ?
because rich people married pretty girls long time ago, so these families "stay" pretty ?



Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 21, 2005, 01:50:34 AM
Our society focuses on beauty and wealth.

These kids profiled are usually both good looking, talented, and upper middle class/rich.

The bottom line: This sells more.

Only conclusion I can come up with.

*****

Thousands of murders/kidnappings every year.

Look at who they report:

The girl in Arubua (pretty)

Girl In Utah (Pretty/wealthy)

Lacy Peterson (pretty-and for all purposes Scott was a handsome guy)

Ramsey (pretty/wealth)

Pretty people grab headlines and keep people watching. Poor unattractive people do not.

News is about one thing: ratings and keeping their sponsors happy. That's it.



i wouldnt go as far as "pretty"
catherine zeta jone is pretty.


do you think that richer people are prettier ?
its like when im driving on the freeway, and i see a nice car - real nice -, 80% of the times, a pretty girl is driving it.
why ?
because rich people married pretty girls long time ago, so these families "stay" pretty ?



It's all relative. But lets put it this way: the general public would find the person to be attractive. You are missing the point by saying 'Catherine Zeta is pretty (which I agree-LOL)'.

It is not my opinion if 'rich people are prettier', nor was it the point I was trying to make.

I'm saying money/white/attractive sells stories. That is my only opinion, not if certain people are attractive or not.

Off topic:

I know plenty of wealthy people who are not attractive. I know plenty of middle class people who are amazing looking. I know rich people who drive Hondas and middle class who drive Mercedes.

I see older men with money marry women who are attractive and want to be pampered. I'd say this is pretty common. But I also now couples who became wealthy together and stayed together.

Seeing a pretty woman driving a nice car is common anywhere I think. An attractive woman has a better chance to find a sugar daddy husband.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: sandman on June 21, 2005, 10:54:25 AM
the little girl that got murdered in FLA by the sex offender certainly was NOT rich.

also, there's a common theme in all these cases that you are missing.....all of these cases are unsolved mysteries. THAT is the primary reason why they are reported on so much. people are drawn to real life murder mysteries.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: MCT on June 21, 2005, 02:07:02 PM
It seems like only white women get kidnapped, or go missing. Why doesn't the news report any missing men, or black women? Why just white women?

What do you think is going on?

http://www.tidespoint.com/books/white_mans_cotton.shtml


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 21, 2005, 03:46:23 PM
the little girl that got murdered in FLA by the sex offender certainly was NOT rich.

also, there's a common theme in all these cases that you are missing.....all of these cases are unsolved mysteries. THAT is the primary reason why they are reported on so much. people are drawn to real life murder mysteries.

She was still white, young and pretty though.

White boy missing in Utah was found today.......Guess what is all over CNN today???

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050621/ap_on_re_us/missing_scout

I said either or both, not necessarily all of the above. Besides, how many black, latin, asian kids do you see pulling in the headlines?

A: Not many.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: axl_rose_700 on June 21, 2005, 04:05:54 PM
Do you know what I've noticed?
When a black guy gets his head kicked in by 1 or a group of white men its all over the news and its a racist attack, but when a blsack guy or group of black men kick a white guys head in it never gets called racist and isnt on the news that much.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: Axls Locomotive on June 21, 2005, 04:06:04 PM
does anyone have any stats on people who go missing each year broken down into race? would be interesting to see the comparison


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 21, 2005, 04:40:46 PM
Do you know what I've noticed?
When a black guy gets his head kicked in by 1 or a group of white men its all over the news and its a racist attack, but when a blsack guy or group of black men kick a white guys head in it never gets called racist and isnt on the news that much.

True dhat.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: Walk on June 21, 2005, 06:10:28 PM
Do you know what I've noticed?
When a black guy gets his head kicked in by 1 or a group of white men its all over the news and its a racist attack, but when a blsack guy or group of black men kick a white guys head in it never gets called racist and isnt on the news that much.

That says something about the news, or more specifically who controls it. (hint: It's not crackers)


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: SLCPUNK on June 22, 2005, 01:02:21 AM
Do you know what I've noticed?
When a black guy gets his head kicked in by 1 or a group of white men its all over the news and its a racist attack, but when a blsack guy or group of black men kick a white guys head in it never gets called racist and isnt on the news that much.

That says something about the news, or more specifically who controls it. (hint: It's not crackers)

haha, Please elaborate..........Black (liberals) control the medai?

Who?

That is why the only focus on whites getting kidnapped?

Tool time!!!


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: sandman on June 24, 2005, 09:23:16 AM
It seems like only white women get kidnapped, or go missing. Why doesn't the news report any missing men, or black women? Why just white women?

What do you think is going on?


front page news on cnn.com today. three young boys are missing and have not been found.

they are all minorities, living in a poor area, in the most dangerous city in the US.
 

CAMDEN, New Jersey (AP) -- As word of three missing boys spread, residents of the nation's most dangerous city could not stay away.

Dozens of people gathered on street corners Thursday night after more than a day of fruitless searching for Jesstin Pagano, 5; Daniel Agosto, 6; and Anibal Cruz, 11.

"This is over 24 hours now. It's getting scary," said Mario Rivera, an uncle of Cruz. The children were last seen playing in a yard at 5 p.m. Wednesday.

The search resumed Friday morning.

Elba Cruz, Anibal's mother, said she was watching the boys play in the yard of her home Wednesday evening when she went inside for a few minutes. When she returned, the boys were gone.

A police dog tracked a scent taken from clothing belonging to one of the boys to an overgrown wooded area along the Delaware River, a half-dozen blocks from the Cruz home, Camden Police Lt. Mike Lynch said. The dog led police along a meandering path that eventually led to the river, but there was no sign of the children.

Lynch said late Thursday that officials considered the boys missing, but had not ruled out the possibility they had been abducted. During a news conference, he asked for residents to "be good eyes and ears."

"When you're talking about tender age children like that, it strikes a chord with anybody," he said.

Last fall, Camden was ranked the most dangerous city in the United States in a reference book that compares crime statistics.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/24/missing.children.ap/index.html


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 24, 2005, 07:17:53 PM
Yeah, I noticed that article yesterday about the 3 missing minorities. I also noticed they didn't show photos of them. If it was 3 good looking middle class girls that were missing, the pictures would be plastered everywhere.


Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: sandman on June 24, 2005, 08:26:05 PM
sadly, a tragic ending to this one. this is just horrible...

CAMDEN, New Jersey (AP) -- Three boys who had gone missing earlier in the week were found dead Friday in the trunk of a car parked near the yard where they were last seen, authorities said.

The bodies were discovered shortly before 7 p.m. by the father of one of the boys. It was not immediately clear how the boys got into the vehicle or whether foul play was involved.

A neighbor, Carmen Cilla, said she saw David Agosto open the trunk of the maroon Toyota and collapse to his knees screaming. Police rushed to the scene and immediately cordoned off the property with yellow crime scene tape, draping white sheets over the tape to shield the car from view.

Yolanda DeNeely Aguilard, an aide to Mayor Gwendolyn Faison, confirmed that the bodies had been found. She had no immediate information on how the boys died.

The boys -- Jesstin Pagan, 5; Daniel Agosto, 6; and Anibal Cruz, 11 -- had vanished from the yard next to Cruz's home on Wednesday evening. The car where they were found was parked in a driveway next to the yard. It was not immediately clear if the car had been searched previously.

The boys had been the subject of a massive search since their disappearance. About 150 police, firefighters and other officials had searched Friday using boats, helicopters, all-terrain vehicles and tracking dogs.

Neighbors in this desperately poor, crime-ridden city of about 80,000 people across the Delaware River from Philadelphia had passed out fliers to passing motorists with the boys' photos and descriptions.

And earlier Friday, the parents of the children pleaded for help during a tearful televised news conference.

"All you guys, we love you. We want you back. We're not mad at you. Please come back. Please bring my baby back," said Jesstin's mother, Jessica Pagan. "If you have him, please let him go, please."

Anibal Cruz and Daniel Agosto both lived in Camden's largely Puerto Rican Cramer Hill neighborhood. Pagan lived several miles away in Mount Ephraim. Pagan and his mother had been visiting Cruz's home.



Title: Re: Spotlight skips cases of missing minorities
Post by: jameslofton29 on June 24, 2005, 08:48:13 PM
Truly sad, indeed. My heart goes out to the victims families. May the Lord be with you.