Title: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: i_love_axl on June 26, 2005, 02:54:15 PM I think the title says it all: "1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!!".
I would like each of u to post here some things about GNR that u think the majority of the guns fans don`t know..some interesting facts...things like that !!! Thanks!!!! : ok: Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: MikeB on June 26, 2005, 10:09:37 PM I heard in G N'R's early days when they were poor and almost money-less, they would deal drugs and bang groupies , after the girls were asleep , the members stole money from their purses.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on June 27, 2005, 02:16:15 PM Slash auditioned for Poison before joining GN'R. Don't Cry was the first GNR song. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: i_love_axl on June 27, 2005, 02:30:25 PM "Welcome to the jungle" written about Seattle??? :o No...I don`t think so...Paradise city was written about Seattle by Duff (the part with "take me down to the paradise city....") but Welcome to the jungle was writren by Axl about his arrival in LA.
I am right?? Maybe i`m wrong informed.... Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on June 27, 2005, 03:00:29 PM "Welcome to the jungle" written about Seattle???? :o No...I don`t think so...Paradise city was written about Seattle by Duff (the part with "take me down to the paradise city....") but Welcome to the jungle was writren by Axl about his arrival in LA. I am right?? Maybe i`m wrong informed.... I'm sorry, you're right. I got it confused. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Cubb on June 27, 2005, 03:09:53 PM Kieth Richards once pulled a knife on Slash.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: PJ on June 27, 2005, 04:35:43 PM before axl started to name him axl... he was tryin to name him "babe" :nervous:
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: i_love_axl on June 27, 2005, 04:37:50 PM before axl started to name him axl... he was tryin to name him "babe" :nervous: Really??? I didn`t knew that..."Babe Rose" :hihi: Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: D on June 27, 2005, 04:48:45 PM Did u know that steven adler use to suck dick for drugs. its true its true!
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on June 27, 2005, 04:50:21 PM Did u know that steven adler use to suck dick for drugs. its true its true! Steven's personal struggles have nothing to do with GN'R. Show some respect, dick! ;) Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: D on June 27, 2005, 04:54:12 PM personal struggles?
suckin a dick is disorder not a personal struggle. show some respect, dick? i wont show respect to a dick like Adler was while he was suckin it off, i just wondered if he sucked on some balls for a little extra or tickled the guy's asshole? Steven is crackhead,crybaby,whiny retarded, gay bitch.*u suck dick, u are gay* Did u know that Axl is from Lafayette,Indiana and his last name is Bailey, my grandfather's last name is Bailey and has a shit load of relatives with the Bailey last name in Lafayette. I could be a distant relative! Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on June 27, 2005, 05:38:31 PM Izzy was a pimp. He said it in an interview years ago.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Hammy on June 27, 2005, 05:48:08 PM personal struggles? It's not a disorder it's a choice the majority do it because they like it, in this case it was for the money....hey whatever keeps people happy.suckin a dick is disorder not a personal struggle. Quote i wont show respect to a dick like Adler was while he was suckin it off, i just wondered if he sucked on some balls for a little extra or tickled the guy's asshole?Steven is crackhead,crybaby,whiny retarded, gay bitch.*u suck dick, u are gay* Quote For fucks sake grow up dude! He may complain a bit and may of done some things he should not of but he had addictions to struggle with and in his position who knows what you might do...hey u might even suck dick D...how'd you like that, he's had problems in the past but he's done the best to sort himself out and got a band up and running. Now i find it had after all these years to think he still is a druggy, if he'd done it for so many years he'd be long gone by now, maybe these people on tour who have said he is still using are exaggerating a bit or something, or maybe he started again, touring again after all these years is going but a struggle he's gonna be nervous and he may have lapses but after all the problems and time away give the guy credit and if you're gonna insult him use something better than him being a 'gay bitch' and if you really were wondered if he did stuff for a little extra you need to get a life dude!!!!Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: PJ on June 27, 2005, 08:45:08 PM personal struggles? It's not a disorder it's a choice the majority do it because they like it, in this case it was for the money....hey whatever keeps people happy.suckin a dick is disorder not a personal struggle. Quote i wont show respect to a dick like Adler was while he was suckin it off, i just wondered if he sucked on some balls for a little extra or tickled the guy's asshole?Steven is crackhead,crybaby,whiny retarded, gay bitch.*u suck dick, u are gay* Quote For fucks sake grow up dude! He may complain a bit and may of done some things he should not of but he had addictions to struggle with and in his position who knows what you might do...hey u might even suck dick D...how'd you like that, he's had problems in the past but he's done the best to sort himself out and got a band up and running. Now i find it had after all these years to think he still is a druggy, if he'd done it for so many years he'd be long gone by now, maybe these people on tour who have said he is still using are exaggerating a bit or something, or maybe he started again, touring again after all these years is going but a struggle he's gonna be nervous and he may have lapses but after all the problems and time away give the guy credit and if you're gonna insult him use something better than him being a 'gay bitch' and if you really were wondered if he did stuff for a little extra you need to get a life dude!!!!very long rant dude... but in the end.. steven adler is a fuckin cheap crackwhore!!! LMFAO Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Tied-Up on June 28, 2005, 02:55:28 AM Sucking dick is a disorder? I think it all depends upon whose dick you're sucking.
Axl made up for Steven's dick sucking by kicking Steven in the balls on several occasions. If I didn't already have a 'hard on' for Axl, as D so eloquently puts it, I would have fallen in love with him the day I learned that little tidbit of info. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: D on June 28, 2005, 03:06:54 AM Dude are u such a fucking fanboy that u will make excuses and take up for someone regardless of the stupid shit they did to themselves?
I feel pity for people who are born into certain situations but I dont feel sorry for some stupid crackhead who sucks guys cocks for drugs. Id get a job, rob someone or something before Id suck a dick, that is just fuckin insane. He's a crybaby fuck up who cant own up to his mistakes and his faults and cant stop blaming everyone and their brother when he should be blaming the guy in the mirror. I hate any motherfucker who cant take responsibility and always blame their troubles on other people. he's a fuckin joke dude. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Tied-Up on June 28, 2005, 03:39:26 AM Did u know that Axl is from Lafayette,Indiana and his last name is Bailey, my grandfather's last name is Bailey and has a shit load of relatives with the Bailey last name in Lafayette. I could be a distant relative! Actually, this would make you a distant relative of his stepfather, not a blood relative. I have relatives that live in Lafayette too... a bunch of bible thumping scary relatives that I avoid. He's a crybaby fuck up who cant own up to his mistakes and his faults and cant stop blaming everyone and their brother when he should be blaming the guy in the mirror. I hate any motherfucker who cant take responsibility and always blame their troubles on other people. he's a fuckin joke dude. this is something we actually agree upon, D. I know... scary huh? Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Sakib on June 28, 2005, 02:12:16 PM Slash, Adler n duff werent in the very 1st gn'r line up. it was traccii guns, ole beich and rob gardener
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: axlloverforever234 on July 01, 2005, 02:04:14 PM anyone know that vince neil and axl had a fight cause izzy was fucking vinces wife? the fight has yet to end my moneys on axl if it does :love: ;D
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on July 01, 2005, 05:11:09 PM I could be wrong, but I think you misinterpreted what happened. Wasn't Izzy just flirting with her, and Vince seen it? I think he hit Izzy a couple of times, and Axl ran into the room, and Vince got the hell out of there. This was before Axl and Izzy's performance at the 89 VMA's. I dont remember any marks on Izzy's face at that show, so Vince must be a pussy!
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: *Izzy* on July 01, 2005, 05:20:58 PM I heard that Izzy kicked her in the stomach? :hihi:
Vince punched Izzy in the face and his ring cut Izzy's lip :smoking: Izzy? :smoking: Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: mrlee on July 01, 2005, 06:20:39 PM LMFAO, This is the funniest shit ever. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Some GNR's best songs were almost threw away. Including mr brownstone :confused: Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on July 01, 2005, 07:05:03 PM Izzy, where did you hear that? I'm not saying I dont believe it, I just never heard that interpretation of the incident before. Its funny how there is different stories describing this incident. Anyone have a pic of Izzy at the 89 VMA's so we can see if there is any marks on his face?
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: *Izzy* on July 01, 2005, 07:14:07 PM 13/8/89
"On completion of the second day's performance in Moscow, M?tley flies back to Los Angeles via France and New York. Having now split with Doc McGhee as their manager, they encourage his partner, Doug Thaler, into also splitting from McGhee Entertainment Inc. and managing them as his own company's first client. Doug agrees and soon forms his business called Top Rock Development Corporation. On returning to Los Angeles, Vince Neil goes on a ten-day white water rafting trip down Idaho's Snake River. He calls Sharise on his way home who tells him of an altercation she had with Izzy Stradlin' of Guns N' Roses at the Cathouse. After trying to advance on Sharise and being turned down, he pulls her top down in front of many people. Sharise slaps him in the face but then he kicks her in the stomach. 5/9/89 "M?tley presents the award for Best Heavy Metal Album at the MTV Music Video Awards at the Universal Amphitheatre in Universal City, California. While the rest of the Cr?e wait in limos outside the event, Vince Neil waits backstage while Guns N' Roses play with tom Petty. Vince then decks guitarist Izzy Stradlin? as he comes off stage with a punch in the face, for recently hitting on then kicking his wife at the Cathouse. M?tley's security chief drags Vince away and as they are about to leave the building, Axl Rose tells Vince he is going to kill him. When Vince encourages him to bring it on, Axl walks away. This is the start of a feud between the two bands. Axl Rose starts to say in the press that Vince sucker-punched Izzy and he has been insulting Guns N' Roses for years. Vince feels betrayed after showing Axl vocal tricks to help him, while they supported M?tley on the Girls, Girls, Girls tour. He challenges Vince by sending at least six messages to fight at places like Tower Records in Los Angeles, or on the boardwalk at Venice Beach, but Axl never shows up. Meanwhile Izzy calls Vince and apologises for his behaviour. Still angry at the incident and the way Axl has handled it via the press, Vince responds on MTV, telling Axl to name the place and time. He proposes a Monday night fight at the Forum in Los Angeles. Eddie Van Halen and Sammy Hagar from Van Halen say they'll put up the money to stage the fight at New York's Madison Square Gardens. No fight eventuates and Vince's offer still stands to this day." http://members.ozemail.com.au/~cruekiss/89.htm :smoking: Izzy? :smoking: Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on July 01, 2005, 07:42:00 PM Izzy, thanks! You always come through when it comes to this kind of shit. But after reading it, its obviously from the Motley Crue point of view. The clincher is the line 'Axl walks away'. Sorry, but I dont believe that. This is back in the day when Axl was very volatile. I remember stories about him fighting with hotel personnel, security, and I vaguely remember a story where Axl and Izzy tied up some guys from Faster Pussycat in an elevator and beat the crap out of them. And Axl walks away from Vince Neil?? Highly unlikely. The version I heard, Vince took off after Axl chased after him. That is far more believeable, especially if the rest of the Crue were sitting in their fucking limos while all this took place!
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: PJ on July 01, 2005, 07:56:16 PM vince is a pussy everybody knows it!... he walk away, axl dont... remember that you found that info in MC site...
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: D on July 02, 2005, 03:27:19 AM Vince was away white water rafting and his wife Sharise was in a club and Izzy came up to her and pulled her shirt down, she called Izzy an asshole and smacked him, he kicked her in the stomach.
Vince found out and whooped Izzy's ass,one punch Izzy went down. Axl can say what he want but Izzy got dropped with one punch, hardly a powder puff. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on July 02, 2005, 06:14:04 PM D, you're right, in an alternate universe!
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Tied-Up on July 02, 2005, 06:30:58 PM Vince waited for Izzy as he was getting off stage, from all the bright lights to the darkness at the side of the stage, and Izzy was temporarily blinded by that. Vince jumped him at the most cowardly of times, and ran off after one punch.
This tells me that Vince didn't actually have the balls to fight. I mean, if he really wanted to fight, he would have waited for Izzy to be able to actually engage in the fight. The other side of the story that I heard was that Sharisse was coming on to Izzy, Izzy wasn't interested, told her to fuck off, and she slapped him. I wasn't there, so I don't know what happened first hand. Since all we have are other people's recollections of what happened, I'm more inclined to believe that the truth lies somewhere in the middle of both of the two sides' accounts. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: MikeB on July 03, 2005, 12:27:12 AM Quote Axl made up for Steven's dick sucking by kicking Steven in the balls on several occasions. So this thing with Steven could be untrue, Axl just made it up? Anyway, I heard that Joe Perry's ex-wife stole one of his Les Pauls and gave it to Slash, he gave it back to him as a 50th b-day present. When Slash and Steven Adler were little kids , they smoked weed under the sliding board on their school playground.Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Rob on July 03, 2005, 03:09:08 AM Tom Petty gave a recount of the story on one of those VH1 specials, and he said that it was a sucker punch. I trust Petty's word more than anybody in either Motley Crue or GN'R. So I'd definitely say it was a sucker punch. I don't think Axl backed down cause he was a pussy or anything. I think he just felt he was above getting into a stupid feud with a dude from another band.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Twisted Nerve 85 on July 03, 2005, 04:58:54 PM In a desperate attempt to keep Steven Adler off drugs Duff would go around pulling a gun on Hollywood drug dealers and threatening them not to sell him any.
This is something I heard, I think Axl said it in an interview. :peace: Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on July 03, 2005, 07:39:00 PM Twisted, your statement about Duff is true. I dont remember Axl talking about it, but I remember a Duff interview where he said that he did those things.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: N.I.B on July 03, 2005, 09:41:29 PM about the whole izzy/vince thing, i thought his wife was coming on to izzy and then lied to vince cause she couldnt get her way.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: i_love_axl on July 09, 2005, 03:55:08 AM Twisted, your statement about Duff is true. I dont remember Axl talking about it, but I remember a Duff interview where he said that he did those things. Could you post the interview,please??? I didn`t read it!!! Thanks!!! :) Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on July 09, 2005, 04:38:32 AM Sorry, I cant do it. I'm on a webtv now and I cant do that kind of shit. Maybe one of the other posters can help you. Ask Izzy. He's really good at digging up this kind of stuff.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: *Izzy* on July 09, 2005, 11:40:49 AM Here's the Duff interview:
The Adventures Of Duff & His Guns By Patrick MacDonald They weren?t off the plane from Europe for long when the concert trail beckoned again. Guns N? Roses picked up in America right where they left off, barnstorming concert arenas with a sweat-drenched installment of brand-new rockers and familiar favorites. Unlike the tour?s first leg, this time devotees could go to their neighborhood record outlet and pick up not one, but two new Guns N? Roses albums. Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II left warehouses on September 17th. The band?s latest single, "Don?t Cry", appears on both discs; the familiar radio version on I. Overseas, Axl Rose and his bad bunch left an indelible impression on foreign audiences. Finland, Sweden, Denmark and Germany all hosted the band, with the tour climaxing in front of 80,000 wild worshippers at Wembley Stadium in London, England. Here, Axl wore a Scottish kilt; his on-stage tirades against the press took on European targets: Sky, Time Out and Kerranq! Magazines were all victims of Axl?s vitriol. Back in the U.S.A., there were welcome-home presents for the Gunners: assault and property damage charges filed by St. Louis authorities as a result of a July 2nd donnybrook at the Riverport Amphitheatre. And on newsstands everywhere was Steven Adler?s exclusive interview with Circus magazine, with the ex-drummer charging, among other bombshells, that he was fired for standing up to Axl Rose. Guns N? Roses denied all charges in the story. Now, in another Circus exclusive, bassist Duff McKagan gives his side of the story, beginning with Adler?s dismissal. According to the bleach-blond bassist, the band gave Adler every chance they could. "We had recorded like 18 tracks for the Use Your Illusion I record with Steven and it just wasn?t happening," Duff says. It?s a difficult subject to discuss. "We put him through rehab like three times. I even went to his drug dealer?s house and threatened him with a gun and said, ?Dude, if you ever...?" Duff sighs, unable to continue. He says it was all for the good. Adler?s departure and the addition of new drummer Matt Sorum breathed new life into Guns N? Roses. "Matt saved the band," Duff says matter-of-factly. "We were trying out drummers and there was a real low point after finally we had to kick out Steve. And it took us like a year to do it." "We tried Martin Chambers from the Pretenders and that wasn?t happening, and a few other people. Drummers are the hardest part of the band to find. Especially with this band because it?s like totally a family, so we had to find somebody that?s like a bro." At a Cult concert, Duff found out that Sorum was available, because the Cult wanted to replace the Yank with an English drummer. "Matt came in and kicked ass," Duff says. "And that put a foot up our ass. It was like, ?That?s right! We?re a fucking band, man, that?s right!? It?s like we forgot we were a rock and roll band that could kick ass. And it all came back. It was completely natural." The addition of Sorum freed up the band so much that inspiration started flowing - that?s why Use Your Illusion is two volumes. And why Duff is making a solo album. "I got Lenny Kravitz, he?s singing one song. And Sebastian from Skid Row, he?s going to sing on another song. Slash is putting some leads on here and there. And Prince, hopefully he wants to do it. He?s like an inspiration to me as far as songwriting goes, big time. It?s turning out pretty cool. I?ve got eight tracks done, all my tunes." One song, Johnny Thunders? "You Can?t Put Your Arms Around a Memory," is dedicated to Thunders himself; the New York Dolls singer/guitarist who died earlier this year. Duff extends the dedication to Andy Wood of Mother Love Bone. Mother Love Bone is from Seattle, the town where Duff McKagan grew up. "The Fartz, do you remember that band? I was the drummer. Then we turned into Ten Minute Warning and I played guitar," he recalls, with a slight slur in his voice. Those bands were forerunners of the Seattle grunge movement, at a time when metal bands like Queensryche and hard rockers like Heart ruled. Duff calls for his vodka and cigarettes, and they?re fetched from his leather jacket by a girl named Renee. He remembers a Fartz concert in one of the city?s lily-white suburbs that turned into a punch-up. "All these heavy-metal dudes were like trying to kick our ass and we were like, ?bring it on, c?mon let?s go.?" He says the metal dudes eventually ran away. He was also in the Fastbacks, and played on that still existing band?s first record and on a Fastbacks cut on the first Seattle Syndrome LP. He was in the Veins, who put out one single, and he founded a band called On The Rocks. Duff once said he was in 31 Seattle bands, variously playing drums, guitar and bass. He says he has a complete list somewhere, admitting that a lot of them were just party hands that played together only once. Duff grew up in the University District, an area near the University of Washington that?s mostly working class, he was the last of eight kids. His parents were divorced and his mom supported the family as a typist. His real name is Michael, but he?s been called Duff since he was one or two. "It?s an Irish thing," he explains. He says he hates the nickname "Rose." ?That?s dead,' he says. "They used to call Axl and me the Rose Bros. So it just kinda stuck. But it?s not my name, ya know?" Duff was working clubs by the time he was 15, and dropped out of Roosevelt High School (also attended years later by Nikki Sixx, known in the school records as Frank Carlton Serafino Carlton.) "I got great grades and was in the gifted program and all that shit and I learned all I needed to learn. So I got my GED (grade equivalency diploma) and dropped out of tenth grade." He got a day job working as a cook in a restaurant, playing clubs at night. I saved enough money to move to Los Angeles at 19, with fellow Ten Minute Warning member Greg Gilmore, and looked for a more challenging band to work with. Luck shined on him like the California sun. "The first hour, I got a job at the Black Angus," he says. A week later, he answered an ad for a bassist in a free paper called the Recycler. "That was the band with me and Slash and Steven called Road Crew, which was ill fated," he says. "And then I started playing with Axl, Izzy and a couple of other guys, called Guns N? Roses." Through Seattle connections, Duff booked a series of West Coast shows for GN?R, starting at a Seattle punk club called the Gorilla Room. A couple of the guys didn?t want to go, so Slash and Steven Adler replaced them. "We got enough money together to get a U-Haul and we had this old Pontiac," Duff recalls, "and we got a hundred miles out of L.A. and the car just broke down. We were like, ?Fuck!? So we grabbed our guitars and, with just the clothes we had on, started hitchhiking. But we got there. We got there like two hours before the gig, after five-million different rides." That was a turning point for the band, an adventure that forged Guns N Roses into a monster. "That was like a total bonding experience for the band," Duff says. "It was like, if we can get through that, at that early stage, we can get through anything. It was our first gig - albeit we sucked, but it was like, ?So what? We got to it.? But only 15 people showed up and the club manager didn?t want to pay the band. "The guy promised us two-hundred and fifty bucks and only gave us fifty. We threatened to burn the place down and he called the cops and we high-tailed it out of there, after stealing more money from him." It goes without saying that the rest of the tour was scrapped. A Seattle buddy of Duff?s gave the band a ride back to L.A., where the now-bonded Guns N? Roses started its march to the top. So Duff, now that you?re in the biggest rock band in the world, what are you doing with all your money? "That?s like the least important thing to me," he replies. "I bought some nice things for my mom. I bought a car; I bought a house. But as far as anything eccentric, no. "The fame and money part of this whole thing are just bullshit to me. It?s great to have money. It gives you the freedom to do what you want. But that?s not what I got into this for. It?s more of a serious integrity thing. We?re a band. We?re in it for the music." http://www.duffmckagan.net/cm91.htm :smoking: Izzy? :smoking: Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: i_love_axl on July 10, 2005, 08:16:50 AM Thanks a lot!, *Izzy* !!!!!!!!!!! :-*
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jimmythegent on July 10, 2005, 07:24:51 PM Twisted, your statement about Duff is true. I dont remember Axl talking about it, but I remember a Duff interview where he said that he did those things. Duff seems to tell a few tall tales from time to time don't you reckon? Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: MikeB on July 13, 2005, 11:54:30 PM When actor Charlie Sheen was having problems with drugs, Slash begged him to quit because he claimed he's been more into drugs and thought Charlie didn't know much about drugs and how dangerous they were.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on July 14, 2005, 12:50:57 AM I remember a rumor in 1990 about GNR doing a reggae album. I know it was probably bullshit. But when I seen them at the Shoreline Ampitheater in 1991, and they played a reggae version of 'Civil War', I actually started to believe the rumor. Of course, nothing ever came of it.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: usurper on July 14, 2005, 02:34:28 AM Izzy was a pimp. He said it in an interview years ago. I can imagine that Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: IzzyDutch on July 16, 2005, 03:13:49 PM I can?t believe this shit I just read in Kerrang! ? he scowls.
? Which shit are you referring to? ? I ask. ? This shit ! ?, he growls, holding up a copy of Kerrang dated November 4, 1989 in his hand, yanked open at a page from Jon Hotten?s interview with M?tley Cr?e. ? The interviewer asks Vince Neil about him throwing a punch at Izzy backstage at the MTV awards last year, and Vince replies ?, he begins, reading aloud in a voice heavy with sarcasms : ? ? I just punched that dick and broke his fucking nose! Anybody who beats up on a woman deserves to get the shit kicked out of them. Izzy hit my wife, a year before I hit him.? Well, that?s just a crock of shit! Izzy never touched that chick! If anybody tried to hit on anything, it was her trying to hit on Izzy when Vince wasn?t around. Only Izzy didn?t buy it. So that?s what that?s all about.... But this bit, man, where Vince says our manager, Alan Niven, wasn?t around, and that afterwards he walked straight past Izzy and me and we didn?t do a thing, that?s such a lot of bullshit, I can?t believe that asshole said those things in private, let alone to the fucking press! ? ? The whole story is, Vince Neil took a pot-shot at Izzy as he was walkin? off stage at the MTV awards, after jammin? with Tom Petty, because Vince?s wife has got a bug up her ass about Izzy. Izzy doesn?t know what?s going on, Izzy doesn?t fuckin? care. But anyway, Izzy?s just walked off stage. He?s momentarily blinded, as always happens when you come off stage, by coming from the stark stage-lights straight into total darkness side-stage. Suddenly, Vince pops up out of nowhere and lays one on Izzy. Tom Petty?s security people jump on him and ask Alan Niven, our manager who had his arm ?round Izzy?s shoulders when Vince bopped him, if he wants to press charges. He asks Izzy and Izzy says : ?Naw, it was only like bein?hit by a girl!? and they let him go ?, he smiles mirthlessly. ? Meantime, I don?t know nuthin?. I?m walking way up ahead of everybody else, and the next thing I know Vince Neil comes flying past me like his ass is on fire or s omething. All I saw was a blur of cheekbones! I tell ya, man, it makes my blood boil when I read him saying all that shit about how he kicked Izzy?s ass. Turn the fuckin? tape recorder on. I wanna set the record straight. I mean, when Vince did that, we were advised we could sue his ass off if we?d wanted to. But we said no, fuck it, who needs the grief? The guy?s a jerk. Fuck the courts, the guy needs a good ass-whippin?! And now I read this - we get Kerrang a little late here in LA - and I tell ya, he?s gonna get a good ass-whippin?, and I?m the boy to give it to him..... It?s like, whenever you wanna do it, man, let?s just do it. I wanna see that plastic face of his cave in when I hit him ! ? And Izzy's side of the story: Things could only get worse after that - which they did - culminating in Neil punching Stradlin in the mouth backstage at an MTV Awards program, and accusing the guitarist of beating up and trying to rape his wife, a former mud-wrestler named Cherisse. Stradlin is eager to tell his side of the story. "Three years ago, we played some club one night and I was hangin' out with these girls when she came backstage. I said 'Hey your pussy's hangin' out!' and she fuckin' punched me! So I just lifted my foot and pushed her back. She fell down. Next thing I know, she's got me on a rape charge. So I have to go to court, right, for this bullshit, and she didn't show up. Anyway, Motley Crue are a bunch of lying cocksuckers. It's gonna be interesting to see how they respond to this." Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Rob on July 16, 2005, 03:33:41 PM Another Motley related GN'R fact...Slash was one of the people Nikki Sixx was hanging out with at the time of his infamous overdose that inspired the song Kickstart My Heart. That wasn't Nikki's only overdose, but it was his most famous cause they had to put two needles of adrenalin into his heart. You'd think Slash would've learned something from witnessing that, but he didn't until the same thing happened to him a few years later.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Mikkamakka on July 17, 2005, 06:53:59 AM I remember a rumor in 1990 about GNR doing a reggae album. I know it was probably bullshit. But when I seen them at the Shoreline Ampitheater in 1991, and they played a reggae version of 'Civil War', I actually started to believe the rumor. Of course, nothing ever came of it. Don't you have it in mp3? I'd like to hear that. Must have been killer. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Mama Kin on July 17, 2005, 02:44:01 PM Not sure if this has ever been proven to be true, but......
Izzy used to be Joe Perry's heorin dealer. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on July 17, 2005, 06:42:31 PM MikkaMakka, a bootleg of the concert I went to has never surfaced. Very sad. I've looked for it all these years, but never found it. When Live Era came out, I expected that version to be on it since it was a rare performance, but unfortunately, it wasn't.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Lady Livin on July 20, 2005, 07:08:39 AM In Paris, Axl got in a fight with 12 French guys and he got a broken finger from smashing a guy in the head.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Sakib on July 20, 2005, 12:42:52 PM about the whole izzy/vince thing, i thought his wife was coming on to izzy and then lied to vince cause she couldnt get her way. what it was is that Vince's wife comin on 2 Izzy but Izzy had no interest in her. she lied 2 vince ( i think) or vince accused Izzy of flirting with his wife. when izzy came off stage, he got sucker punched by Vince. it was the dark part of the stage. Izzy had a cut lip only. my source was 1 of the articles on HTGTH Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: dustNroses on August 04, 2005, 07:15:48 AM The song Nightrain was written about a $2 bottle of gut rot wine named Nightrain that the guys used to buy when they were poor. I know alot of you knew that, But i reckon that is sooooo cool.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on August 04, 2005, 08:16:32 AM Nightrain is made here in my town, Modesto, CA. At least it used to be. I haven't had a drink in years.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: DoubleTalkingJive on August 06, 2005, 09:39:41 AM I remember a rumor in 1990 about GNR doing a reggae album. I know it was probably bullshit. But when I seen them at the Shoreline Ampitheater in 1991, and they played a reggae version of 'Civil War', I actually started to believe the rumor. Of course, nothing ever came of it. That I never knew, never heard a reggae version of Civil War and I don't like the reggae in KOHD in Toyko... I am glad they didn't that album. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Agata on August 08, 2005, 06:55:37 AM Now I have a question: What happens during the Ritz '88 show when Axl stops singing Rocket Queen after the first chorus? I only have the audio recording; does he go off stage to come back towards the end of the song? If so, why? :-\
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Sherply on August 10, 2005, 07:01:39 AM In Paris, Axl got in a fight with 12 French guys and he got a broken finger from smashing a guy in the head. never known this before. :o Does it come from a reliable source? Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: jameslofton29 on August 10, 2005, 07:24:58 AM Yeah, thats true, but the real story is a little different. Axl and Erin Everly got jumped by a bunch of guys and Axl and Erin got beat up pretty bad. It happened in late 89/early 1990 I think. It was talked about alot back in those days. Maybe someone here could post an article about it. Ask Izzy, he's the master when it comes to that kind of shit.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on August 10, 2005, 02:51:45 PM In Paris, Axl got in a fight with 12 French guys and he got a broken finger from smashing a guy in the head. never known this before. :o Does it come from a reliable source? He said it in a radio interview with Howard Stern. Here's the link: http://www.billsguy.com/music/02-axl.and.sebastian.bach-howard.stern-xx-xx-89.mp3 (ftp://http://www.billsguy.com/music/02-axl.and.sebastian.bach-howard.stern-xx-xx-89.mp3) Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: PJ on August 19, 2005, 07:59:00 PM did you know that axl bio father was murdered
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on August 19, 2005, 11:32:33 PM A third verse that Axl wrote for "Sweet Child O' Mine" was edited out because the record company thought it made the song too long.
Source: http://www.songfacts.com/ Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: DustNroses on August 20, 2005, 06:36:37 AM Now I have a question: What happens during the Ritz '88 show when Axl stops singing Rocket Queen after the first chorus? I only have the audio recording; does he go off stage to come back towards the end of the song? If so, why?? :-\ he went to get a smoke.Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Gofer Rocker on August 20, 2005, 07:34:38 AM i'm sure ye kno but Kurt and Axl had a fight backstage in vma's and that axl was asked by courtney to be francis' gpd father and he refused saying why'd i be the god child to a born drug addict with two beat up druggies as parents
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: SwedeChildO'Mine on August 21, 2005, 12:13:22 PM I don't know if it's true, but according to www.songfacts.com Shannon Hoon is Axl's cousin.? ????
Can somebody please confirm if it's true or not....? Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on August 21, 2005, 09:16:34 PM I don't know if it's true, but according to www.songfacts.com Shannon Hoon is Axl's cousin.? ???? Can somebody please confirm if it's true or not....? They grew up in the same town, but as far as I know they're not related. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Vicious Wishes on August 22, 2005, 07:17:26 PM Hyatt On Sunset
8401 Sunset Blvd Also named "The Riot House," the Hyatt on Sunset is legendary for many reason. Led Zeppelin used to ride their motorcycles up and down the hallways and rent entire floors for massive parties. In 1986, Axl Rose tossed sizzling steaks to fans below. Later, the fire department showed up to halt his balcony barbecue. Tower Records 8801 Sunset Boulevard This is the famous Tower Records on Sunset! What makes it so famous? Who knows? It's just like any other Tower with overpriced CDs. However, Axl Rose worked here as a night manager in the early 80's! Rumbo Recorders 20215 Saticoy Canoga Park This is where a majority of Guns N' Roses "Appetite For Destruction" was recorded and demoed. When you drive past today, there is a security gate and razor wire. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Mr. Dick Purple on August 23, 2005, 02:29:54 PM I heard that Izzy once said that nobody has lived if they dont get off from a car that goes over 80mph, dunno if it's true. :confused:
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Agata on August 25, 2005, 06:45:19 AM Now I have a question: What happens during the Ritz '88 show when Axl stops singing Rocket Queen after the first chorus? I only have the audio recording; does he go off stage to come back towards the end of the song? If so, why?? :-\ he went to get a smoke.You are joking... obviously? Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Queen of Everything on August 25, 2005, 08:10:19 AM anyone know that vince neil and axl had a fight cause izzy was fucking vinces wife? the fight has yet to end my moneys on axl if it does :love: ;D Actually this is how the story goes in the crues book "the dirt" Izzy hit on Vinces wife while he was drunk Wife gets mad - says no Izzy Karate Kicks her Vince finds out - wants to fight Izzy Axl goes - BRING IT ON DONT PICK ON MY BAND Vince goes fine Axl runs away like a cry baby vince keeps the offer open Izzy says "sorry dude" Vince forgives Vince and Axl never speak agian Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Queen of Everything on August 25, 2005, 08:11:34 AM vince is a pussy everybody knows it!... he walk away, axl dont... remember that you found that info in? MC site... Axl is a pussy. Who can see him telling his fans anything about CD??? It is SUCH an axl thing to do. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Rob on August 25, 2005, 03:22:08 PM That Izzy actually did apologize about it does make Axl look bad. Izzy is the one with a more legitimate beef with Vince, and he let it go. Why can't Axl? However, this is all assuming what Vince said in The Dirt is true. Some parts some kinda made up, or at least exagerated. Like Izzy karate kicking his wife. And Vince never says how his shot on Izzy was a cheap shot. When interviewed, Tom Petty, a respectable third party witness, said that Vince hit him from behind. So who knows who's telling the truth.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: *Izzy* on August 25, 2005, 04:59:52 PM I've got a news report on the Vince Neil incident, I'll try and upload it
:smoking: Izzy? :smoking: Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: DustNroses on August 31, 2005, 08:23:43 AM Now I have a question: What happens during the Ritz '88 show when Axl stops singing Rocket Queen after the first chorus? I only have the audio recording; does he go off stage to come back towards the end of the song? If so, why?? :-\ he went to get a smoke.You are joking... obviously? Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on September 06, 2005, 09:39:17 AM Axl not going and looking for Vince to kick his ass doesn't make him a pussy. ::)
Sucker-punching a guy... now that clearly identifies one as punk (aka "a pussy"). Anyway, back to the 1001 things.... cool thread : ok: Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Bridge on September 06, 2005, 10:55:58 AM Axl not going and looking for Vince to kick his ass doesn't make him a pussy.? ?::) Maybe not, but after all the shit Axl was talking, he never answered Vince's televised MTV challenged to come and do a Monday night fight with him. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on September 06, 2005, 01:09:32 PM Axl not going and looking for Vince to kick his ass doesn't make him a pussy.? ?::) Maybe not, but after all the shit Axl was talking, he never answered Vince's televised MTV challenged to come and do a Monday night fight with him. Well it's water under the bridge. Let's move forward, shall we. :hihi: I don't know anymore facts. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Bridge on September 06, 2005, 02:57:39 PM My contribution is a little tidbit about each member....
STEVEN: The jacket worn by Steven on the back of the AFD cover was given to him by Nikki Sixx.? Also, he has said that his favorite GNR songs are "Reckless Life" and "Paradise City". IZZY: I once read that Izzy wrote "Double Talkin' Jive" as an angry sequel to "Patience".? (hence the line "because I got no more patience") SLASH: On his 1996 Loveline appearance, Slash revealed that he lost his virginity at the age of 12. AXL: Sang in church choirs at the age of 6. DUFF: Pancreas exploded in 1994 due to his prolonged alcohol abuse. Another Motley related GN'R fact...Slash was one of the people Nikki Sixx was hanging out with at the time of his infamous overdose that inspired the song Kickstart My Heart.? That wasn't Nikki's only overdose, but it was his most famous cause they had to put two needles of adrenalin into his heart.? Steven Adler was also hanging out with them that night, here's his statement from Spin magazine in 1999.... "We saved Nikki's life.? I put cold water on Nikki, and I had a broken arm and I kept hitting Nikki's face with my cast.? Then we finally got Slash's stupid girlfriend to call the paramedics.? Nikki called me a few days later and said 'dude, what happened?? my face is killing me'." Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Queen of Everything on September 06, 2005, 05:15:39 PM SLASH: On his 1996 Loveline appearance, Slash revealed that he lost his virginity at the age of 12. Is there an exact Quote? like the interview transcript? please!! Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Bridge on September 06, 2005, 05:21:46 PM Is there an exact Quote? like the interview transcript? please!! There isn't a transcript unless I typed out the entire hourlong show, which i won't do. ;D But they were talking about sex, and Slash said something to the effect of "I grew up in a sexual environment, I started when I was 12." Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Queen of Everything on September 06, 2005, 05:28:20 PM Is there an exact Quote? like the interview transcript? please!! There isn't a transcript unless I typed out the entire hourlong show, which i won't do.? ?;D? But they were talking about sex, and Slash said something to the effect of "I grew up in a sexual environment, I started when I was 12." ha Ha Fair enough! Wow thats crazy!! Thats so early.... :-\ Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Bridge on September 06, 2005, 05:33:46 PM ha Ha Fair enough!? Wow thats crazy!! Thats so early....? :-\ I know, the lucky bastard. ;D Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on September 06, 2005, 06:59:19 PM My contribution is a little tidbit about each member.... IZZY: I once read that Izzy wrote "Double Talkin' Jive" as an angry sequel to "Patience".? (hence the line "because I got no more patience") That's cool. I wasn't aware of that. Interesting. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: gnrfan1797 on September 06, 2005, 07:47:04 PM bad obsession was the first song written in gnr
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on September 06, 2005, 09:00:36 PM bad obsession was the first song written in gnr I thought "Don't Cry" was the first song ever written for GN'R. Maybe "Bad Obsession" was one of the first songs. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: PJ on September 06, 2005, 11:30:59 PM bad obsession was the first song written in gnr I thought "Don't Cry" was the first song ever written for GN'R. Maybe "Bad Obsession" was one of the first songs. yeah dont cry is the first song written for gnr... bad obsession is like the first part of mr bronstone.. and was written one year before Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Agata on September 12, 2005, 12:40:16 PM Now I have a question: What happens during the Ritz '88 show when Axl stops singing Rocket Queen after the first chorus? I only have the audio recording; does he go off stage to come back towards the end of the song? If so, why?? :-\ he went to get a smoke.You are joking... obviously? Can you elaborate on that, please? Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on September 12, 2005, 02:45:31 PM Now I have a question: What happens during the Ritz '88 show when Axl stops singing Rocket Queen after the first chorus? I only have the audio recording; does he go off stage to come back towards the end of the song? If so, why?? :-\ he went to get a smoke.You are joking... obviously? Can you elaborate on that, please? He threw his microphone at somebody, and it ended up hitting his manager. I guess he had to go check on him. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Bridge on September 13, 2005, 01:12:07 PM According to an MTV interview before the Ritz concert aired, they were having sound problems in their earpieces, and it pissed Axl off. something like that anyway.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: pilferk on September 29, 2005, 12:22:48 PM Axl has (or had, growing up, though I think they're still there....near East Street) family in Granby, Connecticut? Used to visit there, growing up, during the summers.
For documented proof, check out the Hartford concert from '93. :) Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: Slash Rose on October 01, 2005, 10:57:48 PM vince is a pussy everybody knows it!... he walk away, axl dont... remember that you found that info in? MC site... Axl is a pussy. 1001 things you didnt know...shes a bitch... as for this 1001 thing..... dunno but gnr rules :) Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: journey on October 02, 2005, 01:00:04 AM vince is a pussy everybody knows it!... he walk away, axl dont... remember that you found that info in? MC site... Axl is a pussy. 1001 things you didnt know...shes a bitch... Let's be nice, please. Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: renthispace on October 02, 2005, 09:00:09 PM The dog in the SCOM video, is Izzy's dog.
Title: Re: 1001 things u didn`t know about GNR!!!! Post by: AFD_Appetite_For_Duff on October 13, 2005, 09:32:50 PM i heard that duff and izzy once duct-taped the drummer of Faster Pussycat and shoved him in a hotel elevator...he he lmao
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