Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I was having fun with a friend.

So there was this asshole from one of my ex-job, I was going to ask him how things are going

BUT

The guy behind me, he attacked me, I turned and this guy from the work I used to work with forced my hands behind my back. The pounding began, I couldn't defend myself and took about four or five head-buts, I lost my consiousnes (sp) for a while.

Tthe cops wouldn't do nothing since I have no permanent damage but my eye is cut and it hurts like hell. THe bouncers threw my friend and me out, I dont know why.

Hit after hit after hit after hit and I couldn't do a shit. I counted four before I passed out.

I could take the guy any day one by one, I could take him one hand behind my back.

So any advice, support, anything.

I'm thinking about calling the cops AGAIN but i dont think that would be any help, so maybe I'll pull a personal vendetta, I would love to beat the shit out of those guys. I'd truly love that.

So maybe I would be in deep shit, but the guy would get his food from a hose.

Any advice?

Any nothing?

By the way what's a good way to turn down swelling? or heal cuts?

Shit.. I started boxing to take care of myself, but I was taken by surprise. I'm mad at myself for letting my guard down.

And I hope THEY do get testicle cancer. I hope I'd get one hour with them in the torture chamber.

I got both my lips cut, too.

Ive been on both ends of that shit. Ive only got my ass kicked once though.
I got smacked in the face and kicked in the head, I had drank almost 2 bottles of vodka that day though, so I don't remember anything from that night until the cops woke me up on the street and took me to the emergency room. the doctor found out that my nose wasn't broken and slapped a huge band aid sorta thing on my nose. I ripped it off and took a taxi straight back into town to look for the guys though. :hihi:
I didn't even know what the guy that did it looked like, but I asked around and I found out that the cops had thrown him in jail...oh well. ;D

but in your case, he got away with it, and YOU got kicked out of the club? I would be seriously pissed off..
try the cops again. if that doesn't pan out, think it through tomorrow, no good doing anything today.

Take Ibuprofen for swelling, and get some frozen peas (keep in bag-LOL) and lay it on your head. It conforms to your face, get what I'm saying?

Well.....I dunno. What kind of guy are you? I've been beat down the same way when I was younger. Guy sucker punches you from behind, jumps you and that's it, your ass is getting beat. Pisses you off, because it's the cowardly thing to do, and it's a suckers way of winning a fight.

Why did these guys do this?

In America the Police would arrest these guys, is there no chance of this? That would be the route I'd take at my age.

When I was younger I would have waited and gone after the guys one at a time. I would have waited for months to get even back then. I would wait until the forgot and then go after them.

Now, I'd try to get them arrested.

What do you want to do?

I got jumped once by 4 guys (friends of this one guy who thought I was sleeping with his girlfriend, who I worked with.) and they beat me so bad it dislocated my left shoulder. I went to the hospital and have had trouble with that arm ever since (Last 13 yrs). Police never arrested them, even though I had witnesses, and their tag. Funny thing was that I barely knew his girlfriend, much less fucked her. But I sure took a beating for it. I could only hope those guys got testical cancer too.

Dude some will tell u to let it go, to turn the other cheek but I say


FUCK THAT


U go and find this motherfucker and u destroy his ass

Until u do u wont have any type of inner peace about yourself.

If a motherfucker did that to me I would not stop until his ass was hurt bad.


GO DO IT!

Sorry to hear that Blue Cut!  Hope you're feeling better now.

Like SLCPunk said - I would now have them arrested, but in my younger days, I would have seek revenge - it is sweet.  : ok:

I don't suppose we're going to find out WHY you don't get along with your coworkers?   :o

We've all been in fights before - but seeking revenge is positively absurd, how many times have u watched the Godfather? :confused:

Unless u kill them they will come back for u - that sounds like a cycle and when it gets real personal someone will end up in jail or dead.

I'd let it go - obviously tell the police and work that angle, but it will be you that ends up in jail if u fight back, and i have no idea where ur from but over here a criminal record means u don't get a job again worth having

Be the bigger man and rise above it, u might have no permenant injuries this time but next time you will. Maybe u should re-evaluate which places u visit and ensure u have more friends around u that will help u out

as marilyn manson said " Get Your Gunn ! " ;D

i don't know.
if you're younger than 25 go kick their asses with a katana
if you're older, it would be lame i think .... ???

I just woke up and my right eye has swullen shut.

I'm thinking I go to the cops, since I know one of the guys, I wouldn't even have remembered how the guy looked like who hit me but he came telling me to let it be afterwards.

So if the cops don't do anything, then I'll gather some friends.

wow...I'd get out my camera and taken of your pictures of your face and see if you can get assault charges filed...I think there's more to this story but that still doesn't give those people the right to gang up on you...your friend can be a witness right?

If you know who did this to you, and you are beat up, go to the police and demand (nicely) that these jerks be arrested.

Of not, send my D's Mom after them.............


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I did, the cop wanted me to find out the name of the I used to work with, I think they are now in deep shit.

I'll press charges for the both of them.

Apparently head-butting is much more severe than if the guy would've punched me.

Is that D's mom?! Damn, I just saw her making out with Kujo!  :o

Good, press charges and don't back down.

Once D's Mom gets her wig on, and her teeth in....she's pretty hot. Obviously from the picture...she's a big Rambo fan....

Lolwtf, how come? :) You'd imagine the assailant gets hurt as well.. or is there some ninja way of doing it that doesn't hurt?

If you see them again, together. TEll them you'll take them both on. Kick one in the balls and kick the shit outta the other. That's what I'd do.

Get a couple of friends together and beat the shit out of their intestines...  ;)

and shoot it on film and put it on your blog ! ?____?

I actually thought I'll put them lying mouth open on the ground and give them a good kick on the back of their skull.

Or maybe I'll invite their knees to meet my friend the powerdriller.

flatten their tires with a knife.

"If society won't punish the guilt, he will."
Find those assholes and make sure chicks won't want to go out with them. I would back you up bro.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

I'm gonna side with Izzy here, guys...


Not sure I feel like getting involved really - some of the advice given here is really saddening to read, it'd probably be quite hard to stand up against it, and I might spark a huge debate that I'll lose interest in - but D...that's the stupidest thing I've ever read from you (even more stupid than your views on Lance Armstrong being named male athlete of the year, or whatever it was, and how apparently even you could compete in the Tour de France? :P) You'll always have my respect in many ways, but I hope you can cherish my honesty when I say that statement is bullshit to me.

Are you telling me retribution is the key to peace and harmony? Would you beat someone up, witness their pain, find some sort of twisted satisfaction from it - as if you somehow are responsible for serving justice - and walk away feeling peaceful? You're still going to think he's a 'motherfucker'! That's not peaceful. I fully expect you to believe I've got a deluded view of this, because our takes on revenge and forgiveness seem to be in complete contrast, judging by what I've just read, but it's the same for me thinking about your view; I don't understand how a person can feel and say with absolute sincerity that they believe revenge is the best policy. Might give you a kind of temporary satisfaction - albeit one loaded with contemptuous feelings - but how is it ever going to make a person peaceful if they go around seeking revenge so much? You'd just end up with two mental lists: one of people you need to come down on like a tonne of bricks, and another of people you've already come down on sufficiently, and can just live in passive bitterness towards. I reckon people generally feel they are wronged many times each week, but surely we can't spend our lives seeking to make others pay all the time? ??? By no means am I trying to argue that loving everybody is as easy as pie, but I think I would always want to endeavour to do so, and true love forgives all wrongs. I guess that point is irrelevant unless you agree with me that we should try to genuinely love everybody though. I'm not saying forgiveness is easy either, but I am saying that as far as I can tell it's much more likely to bring the inner peace you speak of.

I'm gonna regret posting this as soon as I read any reply you may post, because it means I have to be less apathetic for a while, lol, and get actively involved in debating the issue, but ah well. I just felt whilst reading this thread that it saddened me and touched enough of a nerve for me to go to the effort of posting properly for the first time in a couple of weeks or something. I don't feel that perpetuating the issue is a way to solve it. To me there's no real power in showing someone who's boss, so to speak, but there is an immense and almost immeasureable power in love and forgiveness. A while back I ended up experiencing more physical discomfort than I already had, by trying to re-enter the arena of a fight I had quite inadvertently got involved with, and shake the hand of the other guy involved, but despite being headbutted as I tried to shake his hand, it was and still is my belief that I was more likely to have a positive effect on the hearts of the bystanders, than if I had gone back all guns blazing, eyes full of hate. In the heat of the moment, I guess everyone would want to defend themself if at all possible, just like I tried to until the fight I was in broke up (I did my best UFC hold :hihi:), but after incidents like that, to me it doesn't seem right or at all clever to encourage the cycle to keep going.

Coming from a completely different culture and probably a completely different family to you, I guess it's almost inevitable that I'm likely to have such different beliefs about this, but please try and understand me. I don't know if I've articulated myself particularly well, but hopefully I've made sufficient sense.

actually beating the guys up would've make me feel good and give some satisfaction.

If it would've been a fair fight the I'd let this whole issue be.

But the guy looked too damn pleased with himself when he came to tell me he it would be better if I wouldn't get the cops involved.

I hope the cops catch him, I'm calling today to find out the name of the other guy

Im telling my opinion

If I fought a dude straight up and he kicked my ass; hey congrats, u the man, no hard feelings, I respect you.

If you jump me from behind like those pussies did to Blue Cut and they kicked the shit out of me and hurt me

Im sorry dude, but I cant let that go

If u let people do shit like that to u then u will always be picked on and bullied.


Blue Cut kicks these guys asses or at least tries, I guarantee they never fuck with him again, that is a guarantee.


If I let some guys do that to me and I just let it go, Id feel like the world's biggest pussy and wouldnt be able to look myself in the mirror.

Its not revenge, its just standing up for yourself.

TJ I do love everybody and I get a long with everyone and I do my best to avoid fighting.

But when cowards attack you from behind like this and humiliate u and hurt you, how can u just let them get away with that?

i wouldnt be able to.

I grew up in the projects though and the poor side of town, so yeah I guess our cultures are probably very different

Where Im from, if u let someone get away with that shit, then U are in deep shit with other people.

Revenge isnt the best policy for everything

If some dude fucked my woman, I wouldnt kill him or hurt him or try to fuck his woman.

If a guy hit my dog with a car and killed it, Im not gonna shoot him or hurt him

If a guy cuts me off in traffic, I dont get mad at all

If someone fouls me hard playing basketball, i dont get mad.

but when guys unprovoked jump me from behind like a bunch of little bitches and hurt me, thats a totally different story and I think Revenge suffices here.

Blue Cut was being nice and friendly, those guys took something from him, and I think Blue Cut is a lot like me and I just know personally, I wouldnt be able to live with that knowing they did that and got away with it.

So No revenge isnt the best policy 95 percent of the time, but special cases like this, i think it is.

Its like If someone mugged my mom and stole her purse and knocked her down, Dude I would hurt someone so bad u just dont know

or if someone hurt my GF or people I love, then fuck yeah its their ass.

So hopefully now u will see where im comin from! : ok:

the pussy had to have his little bitch trap Blue Cut in a position so he could win the fight the easy way , that's fucking unfair. Blue Cut deserves to have revenge.

The immediate feeling of revenge may be sweet after a beat down.

However later on, looking back, you'd realise that violence solved nothing.

Revenge and violence are two negative actions that can not bring you anything good.

Think about it.

Nurse your wounds, stand tall, and forgive those guys. In the long run, that act of forgivness will allow you to grow much more than violence or revenge would...............................

I'd still go to the police though.

PS: Nothing is fair in life, and if you go around trying to make shit fair, you'll be running around in circles your entire life.

Blue Cut you need to kick these guys ass.


Like D said if that happened to me I could just let that shit slide with the pussy way that it happened.I would feel like I let them walk all over me without any consquences.   

LOL. Sorry, but that's a fuckin load of bullshit. Two guys beat him unconscious and ur telling him to sit around and lick his wounds? Kick the shit out of them and u'll sleep better... Deal with ur conscience later...  ;)

Well said, that is a fact.

Excellent post by TJ and SLC

This thread horrifies me

I take some comfort in knowing that none of you have the balls to practice what you preach

Listen to what ur saying, so its okay for u to hurt people but not them to hurt you?

I think most of u watch far too many films.

If violence can be so easily rationalised i'd come for all of u to try and knock some sense into you

Is this really the world u want? No wonder people get attacked if such childish attitudes exist

How hurting anyone can bring u satisfaction, what a harsh upbringing u must have had, how angry you must be at the world. Let it go.

What abt the other way around?

You're wrong there. I beat a guy bad when he was trying to beat her ex-gf sensless, but it was one on one and I tried to talk to him to go away, then he attacked my friend and I told my friend to stay out and I beat the guy. And I stopped when he didn't want to fight anymore, and I turned to see if the girl was okay and he tried to get me from behind but someone shouted a warning and I got out of his reach.

Did I regret it? Yes.
Did it do any good? Yes, he tried to approach the girl once more but she told him he got mine and my friends number and he left, cursing her but he left.


Anyway I made some calls and got the guys name, I also turned in sick today since I'm feeling light-headed and I don't have any feel on the right side of my head. It's just numb and if I touch it it's like it's someone elses skin. I got a time for a doctor after 40 minutes.

Wonderful, i take it by that lone response everything else i said was correct?

So my mistake was not believing u to be a psychotic. Well, i do now


And ur so proud of it that ur telling me, what a charming person u r. I've been in fights, and i ain't proud of that. You evidently are.


No u didn't

Ur proud of it. You've just told me of the incident. Ur proud of the way u resolved the issue. U feel powerful as a result


Seem's to validate what i just said


And u need someone else to feel the way you do?

U have their name. U have the bruises, surely u have a witness to. Take it to the police. Those guys get a criminal record - they will never get a decent job again. I'd say that was revenge, and ur integrity hasn't been compromised

But u see - ur not innocent in this case are you? That's why going to the police isn't enough - because you know it wasn't unprovoked

No I'm not proud of beating the guy, I am saving the girl though.

Would you have just watched?

And I did talk to the cops. I'm sure they will handle things.

But still I would like to pay back the blood in blood, I would.

You may think am psychotic, if my friend is in a fight I will back him up, I have backed my friends up every time, would you just looka away? I feel sorry for you.

Well like I said, when I was younger (in my 20's) I would have gone after the guy, weeks, maybe months later and hit him hard. Without a thought trying to hurt them. But it has been my experience in life that it won't do any good.

Will it give you instant gratification? Yes. But like many things that feel good at the time, they aren't necessarily good for you.

Raising kids I always hear " That's not fair...this isn't fair" and my reply is simply "Life is not fair". I thought about this thread later in the day and remembered I always said that to the kids. It is a life lesson really. If I try to make everything even for the kids so it's "fair", or the kids take that task on themselves, then they really aren't getting a true life lesson.

I have seen enough bad things happen to bad people, quickly and over the long haul. Enough so that you can rest assue that these guys who beat him up, will have plenty of karma to work through after this.

Maybe it's because I'm older but I'd only resort to violence now to protect my family. So yea, I'm asking him to put some frozen peas on his head, call the police and ask himself if he wants to use violence and seek revenge. If he does, then that is his choice.

Agreed.  : ok:

Izzy u arent getting what Im saying


Is it ok to just go around beating people up? Of course it isnt.

Im not advocating violence and saying it is the answer to your problems.

I just feel there is a time to turn the other cheek and a time to NOT turn the other cheek.

If I am in the wrong and a guy kicks my ass, Hey I can live with that, no big deal, it is over and done with.

But if someone jumps me from BEHIND and hurts me, especially someone who face to face I would destroy, Man u cant let that shit go.

If I cut a guy off in traffic and he yells "FUCK U" I let that go, no big deal

but this is a totally different situation.

And u are god damned right Id feel good about myself for standing up and writing a wrong done to me.



Let me ask you all this

if someone mugged and beat up your mother and robbed her, and u could have 5 minutes alone with him, u wouldnt take it?

answer that shit.

Yea, but nobody beat and mugged Blue Cut's Momma....

They basically did that to him though

so whats the difference?

If some dude bumps into me on a dance floor, or spills his drink on me, im not gonna whip his ass

but look at what theydid to Blue Cut

I mean how can someone say to not retaliate?

I still don't have enough of the story really.

Why did these guys want to beat him so bad?

I'm not trying to put blame on the victim by any means. Just curious, why? It seems a lot to beat somebody so badly, what was the problem?

Punk should have lots of advice for what to do when you get your ass kicked, I suspect he's had it happen alot. 

Ahhh, an eye for an eye huh?? 

And so the neverending saga of war continues through such mentality.

"It is through acts of love, acts of kindness and generosity that you find yourself becoming closer to that part inside of you that is God",- Jesus, approx. 33 A.D.

Anybody believe in Jesus around here?  I don't think "an eye for an eye" ever came out of his mouth.

You seem cool.  I would like to hang out sometime.

We really only have one side of the story here, and only HALF of that side.  So what happened?  I've bumped into old co-workers before and never had them wanting to start a fight.  So what's the backstory?

You can easily tie this "comment" in with the discussion.

Ignoring this dimwit is the way to go. Obviously he/she/it is unhappy, and knowing that is good enough for me. No need to "get even" because this person is obviously miserable to begin with.

 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

C'mon SLC u know good and well u've whooped some dudes asses in your day. I know u have.

Honestly I don't know what started it, I think we had some verbal fight. The first guy grabbed my shirt and I tried to push him away, that's when his friend grabbed and I turned around, the first guy took a hold on me so I had my hand tied agains't my body, I got two hits of hist head, I remember wondering what the fuck is he hitting me with. I hit my elbow back, hitting the first guy in his stomach and I got half loose, he was still hanging onto me.

His friends head came into my face, I remember seeing my hand taking a hold of him and I was ready to fire? when I saw his head coming, I turned my face and it hit the side of my skull.

I think I was out for a second since next thing I remember is someone holding me and I gave my friend some elbow thinking he was one of those guys.

The bouncers threw us out.

When outside I was pissed off and waiting for the guys to settle things, my friend left to eat, really he was to scared to fight. The first guy looked scared, eyes wide and the head-butter told me I'd better not make this a police things (I told that to the detective calling me yesterday, I got the feeling he ain't gonna let the guys off easy).
I told the head-butter, "Hey fuck you"
And the scared-looking boy told me if I had something to say I should call him and I told him sure, give me your number and we'll talk first thing tomorrow.

He didn't give it and at that point they hurried to the taxi.


My friend asked me yesterday if I wanna go and beat those guys, I told him that yes, I would like that, but I'm gonna leave this for the cops. I think he'll beat the first guy anyway if he sees him. The guy had jumped him once but he had beat the guy up.

Its intresting that a lot of people from America have spoken of going out looking for revenge. Of course, your all armed to the teath with guns over there

I'm just surprised no one has mentioned how likely these acts of revenge would lead to a fatality.

Is avenging a brawl in a bar really worth ur life or theirs?

well you're making too much of it here ;D

these are just kids fighting, no big deal ;D

kid fights? what! These kids are legal adults (as far as the law goes)...I think that fact that dude brought up about not going to the cops tell you that he realized he may have "f-ed" himself...take if for all it's worth BC...especially if this head-butting thing is considered more serious than a punch...believe me, the hassles from the cops will annoy him more than any smack down could...and lets face it, that dude owns the consequences that are coming to him...

Epo Sanomat:

"KUR MOO TUS
Uusvanhan perush?rm?l?isen itsepuolustuslajin avulla turvaat
henkil?kohtaisen koskemattomuutesi ja pid?t paikkasi
nakkikioskin jonossa.
Monet nykyajan ihmiset ovat valitettavalla tavalla harhautuneet
kokeilemaan ep?m??r?isi? it?maisia itsepuolustuslajeja, joiden
tarkoitus on l?hinn? ker?t? opettajilleen mahdollisimman
suuret tulot ilman ett? ihmisen henkil?kohtainen turvallisuus
juurikaan paranee.
Toisin on laita vuosituhantiset perinteet omaavassa suomalaiskansallisessa
itsepuolustuslajissa, Kur Moo Tuksessa. T?t? lajia
on moni suomalainen tiet?m?tt??n k?ytt?nyt h?t?tilanteessa
pelkistetyss? muodossa, kun vaaran uhatessa j?rki j?tt?? ja
vaistot ottavat vallan. Tutkijat ep?ilev?tkin lajin kehittyneen
osaksi suomalaisten geeniperim?? ja kollektiivitietoisuutta,
niin ett? jokainen suomalainen periaatteessa osaa lajin
yksinkertaisimmat alkeet synnynn?isesti. Sama koskee my?s
sen l?heist? sukulaislajia, VIT TUI LET S??:t?.
Kur Moo Tus on jo l?hestulkoon tuntemattomaksi k?ynytt?
muinaisvarhaisalkukantasuomea, ja tarkoittaa nykykielell?
vapaasti tulkattuna R?k?nokkain ojennukseen pist?mist?. Lajin
nimess? k?ykin oivallisella tavalla ilmi sen syv?llinen filosofia,
jonka peruspilarit on kuvattu seitsem?ss? lajin kultaisessa
s??nn?ss?:

1. Anna aina vastustajan ly?d? toisena.
2. Jokainen ihminen, jolla on vastenmielinen naamataulu,
suunnittelee hy?kk?yst?. Sovella t?ll?in s??nt?? yksi.
3. Toimi ensin, ajattele sitten.
4. Humalassa jokainen meist? voi p?ihitt?? kenet tahansa.
Kannattaa ainakin yritt??.
5. Ei suuret sanat suuta halkaise. ?l? siis turhaan hukkaa aikaa
sovintoyrityksiin.
6. Pakoon l?hteminen ei ole kielletty?, mutta on helvetinmoinen
h?pe?. ?l? siis pakene.
7. Mit? enemm?n nostat penkist?, sit? r?yhke?mmin voit
etuilla jonoissa.
Liity nyt sin?kin yh? kasvavaan Kur Moo Tuksen harrastajien
joukkoon, ja l?yd? sis?lt?si se mit??n pelk??m?t?n ?ykk?ri,
jollainen jokainen meist? pohjimmiltaan on. Unohda siis
kaukoid?n tekosyv?lliset k?sienhuitomish?mp?tykset, ja
paranna itseluottamustasi perisuomalaiseen tyyliin."


I?m sorry this is only in finnish, i?m too lazy to translate. But basically here?s some advices how to defend yourself in the North..

Im from the north...and I have no idea what that stuff says!

not north enough :)

 


 :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

C'mon SLC u know good and well u've whooped some dudes asses in your day. I know u have.

Back in the day, I would have whooped that guys ass, yea. I used to fight all the time, every weekend. I'd punch first then say "got a problem"  :hihi: Sometimes I got beat down too, just depended how drunk I was. Sometimes I'd pick fight when I could barely speak...that never worked too well... :hihi:

I tend to agree with the non-physical relaliation posts in this thread.  If you are over 18 fighting again can cause nothing but more trouble for you, either by leading to another attack on you or getting busted by the police.  I would go for the pussy move trying to prosecute them and then bringing a civil suit.  As much as it was fun for them to punch you, it wont be fun when their next year's worth of work is going to your bank account.  I really think there is no better reliation than this, it is unexpected and would hurt them more than punching them back.

A very rough translation:


1. Always let your opponent strike second.



2. Everybody who has a face you don't like, is planning to attack you. Use rule #1.



3. Take action first, think later.


4. While drunk, each one of us can beat up anybody else. At least you should try.



5. Big words won't cut a lip, therefore don't waste time by trying to talk your way out.



6. Running away isn't forbidden, but it's a huge shame. Therefore, don't run away.



7. The more you can do in bench press, the more arrogant you can be while cutting in line/queue.





/jarmo

Number 7 is the greatest! :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

Are you trying to pick a fight, peacemaker?

 
 

That is another point too.

Bar fights do end up as manslaughter charges here all the time. Just from fists alone, people can get one wrong hit and it can be fatal.

haha, good answer! lol

Big difference in going and whipping someone's ass and going and shooting them

Im not spending my life in prison over someone

I cant fight people cause being the size I am, I am likely to be shot so thats why I stay peaceful.

If some dudes did that to me though, They'd be sorry they did I guarantee that.

Im not saying its right or wrong, but under the circumstances, being right and wrong wouldnt matter.

OMG... D!  I ... actually... AGREE with you.       

Now I know I'm having a positive influence on you. First ... we're agreeing about most music (except bon jovi) and then, slowly, you're coming out of your self-imposed brainwashing of bon jovi and seeing them for the cheese that they are... and now this.   

Turning the other cheek sucks.  Stand up for yourself Blue Cut... if you don't nobody else will.

A little update.

This is going to the prosecutor at the end of the month. The guy who headbutted me denies everything, and his gf, friend and his friends gf back him up.

Their side of the story; I came to pick a fight, I hit and miss and they leave the bar. Give me a fuckin' break.

The funny twist of things is that if the prosecutor thinks I made this up I could be the one paying for the fun.

If I ever see this guy he got a major rematch coming.

Dude I just read the whole issue, I say you crush him till he remembers that he doesnt have to see you, touch you, smell you and be near you!. People like that should be condemed for prickness  :rant:

Believe me, I'd love to get with him in the ring.

I'd love to break his elbows.