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do you think the younger generation are gonna appretiate gnr and accept them into there record collection or will they think they are just old what with the music out now.

Well, they've been on MTV. I know plenty of people in my school who like gnr. I am 15 myself.


P.S. Get some grammar lessons.


Edit: I was nearly asleep when I wrote the original post.

I think it will be hard for GN'R to be accepted by the younger generation at first.I think it will take atleast 2-3 months for the young people of today to get used to them,I think GN'R will need the help of MTV and other public outlets.

In todays hip hop and bubble gum pop ruled industry it will be verry hard for GN'R to be accepted,it may be harder for them to be accepted than it was back in the 80's and eartly 90's .

He has all those punk-wannabees and all the other kind of poseurs attention when Chinese Democracy comes out.  All the poseurs will just buy it to be cool.  A guy in my school(im in high school) dressed up as Slash for Halloween.  I'm sure once GNR is cool again, theyll be accepted but the meaning to the songs will blow right over their pathetic heads.  For all the "ghetto" kids, gnr would need to be seen as buddies with some hot shot rapper to be accepted.

A.L.R.

If the band ever returns, I wouldn't worry about the younger generation.  It's longtime fans of the original lineup that are going to have a hard time accepting them.

We have a lot of "young" posters, here.  I don't think it's going to be a problem when that time comes.

And sure, some fans of yesterday will have a hard time, but they'll get over it.  Most of us "older" fans here at the board have moved on. Admittedly, some still have problems with it, but they still come and post.  That's a good sign in my book.   :)

Who cares if they do our not!  ::)

Duet with Eminem?

Probably not, that would maybe alienate his rock audience.  Looks like the ghetto kids are a lost cause.  Maybe he can get some of them if he has stuff that is in your face and rocks hard.

Some will and some won't.

'grammer' was a joke, right? An attempt at irony?

Good catch, LizardKid.   :hihi:

If the band gets enough promotion, then there won't be any problems.

P.S. Good one  :rofl:

Yes, it was. Don't take everything so literally.

I was at the show or no-show in Philly and I was suprised at how many young people there were there : ok:

I HOPE NO WANNABE'S LIKE THEM!  :rant:

Wannabe's suck! :P

GNR KIK ASS! Evry1 shud lke dem!  :peace:

Personately I'm quite pessimistic: here is what I've found on a music message board, that's not very optimistic:

"It doesn't matter how good Chinese Democracy is because it won't change the fact that this NuGnR is not Guns N Roses. It also doesn't change the fact that Axl ruined one of the greatest bands of all time.

I'm so sick of these Axl nutswingers who act like Buckethead is some sort of God. You wouldn't give 2 shits about him if he wasn't playing for Axl. If Buckethead left tomorrow you'd all forget about him and be kissing the person's ass who would replace him.

Buckethead may be able to play guitar, but that doesn't mean shit. Just because he can play doesn't mean he is anything special. The guy can't play with the emotion & feeling that is present with most of the greats. The guy can't write a timeless riff like Slash did with SCOM. He can't write a riff that would take a good song and turn it into an amazing song like Slash did with Estranged. Buckethead also sure as hell won't be an influence to generations of guitarists."

I don't know how they will be received by the large audiance...but everywhere on the internet, 99% of people say Axl sucks, that he destroyed the band and that all this thing is a joke.  :-\

first off, the internet represents such a small percentage of the actual listening public, that any internet related opinions, no matter how many there are, cannot be used to indicate any outcome having to do with GNR or anything at all.

Right on Nick.  But you do realize your statement applies to Axl lovers as well as Axl opposers, don't you?

absolutely.  the internet population is a majorly tainted sample of the whole, and that goes for both sides.

I'm 15 and and alot of my friends like them.

-EM  :yes:

well.. i'm 16 my self and

i do appreciate AFD, UYI'S, GN'R LIES, The Spaghetti Incident?...

i do appreciate Axl, Slash & co

i do appreciate GN'R more than any band.

...nowdays the bands are very probably total crap. it's very worrying to see that there are no (well, very few!) new hardrock bands born in late 90's and especially after 2000. All the hard rockers will soon be too old to play properly, that's a shame!

1) I want to know who is a teenager here who didn't know the old band.
2) do you think the new GN'R will be popular in the new generation?

I think you will have to save that first question until CD is released.  I think we will have quite a few who will know nothing of the old band.

Axl did his homework. The new band is too cool image wise, and they are also super talented.  They're gonna appeal to everyone if the music is good, and we know the music is good.  The younger generation will eat this shit up.  There is no band cooler, more talented, or better material wise than the new GNR, right now.  That is the truth.  Once people get exposed, it doesn't matter who they are, they're gonna dig this band.

Do you go to INglemoor in Wasington.  Im 16 and I was Slash for Halloween.  Alot of people at my school accept Gn'R's musical talent, but don't really like the songs.  My friends listen to new butt rock (New Found Glory and that crap), but I will catch them listening to Gn'R classics like Paradise City and Welcome to the Jungle from time to time.

 : ok:

Slashisthebest

It all depends on the new material. That is why this band has a chance to succede or fail based on their own material and not the past. As much as the internet community thinks they are the only market for gnr they are wrong. A kid in boise idaho doesnt care about the old lineup. So what will make him liek this band is the new material that is released. If it rocks then gnr will have a chance to rule the world again. If gnf fans just like it then it will have little pop success. The material has to appeal to a lot more peopel than gnr fans. Because we do not make up the music population.

Nope, new jersey but good to hear anyway.

I'd be more worried about the older generation accepting this band.

 ??? What do you mean by that????

Kids these days don't appreciate good music- only a rare few do!
Luckily i'm in that rare few!!!!!  :beer:

Yes they will accept Guns N' Roses, Why not. They accept older bands like Aerosmith, AC/DC, Rolling Stones and more.  

if you mean my 3 years old neighbour - then I guess yes. For us it's hard to take this new band 'cause we know what was it before. For the younger generation GNR is (will be) something new. No memories, dreams ,sorrows... Yeah, they will accept that.

Axl's got it nailed in Guns N' Roses, he has all the cool images of today.

He's got himself: the link with the old guys, but with an updated image and 'cool' hairstyle. He's got the punk rocker (and this guy really is a proper punk rocker) in Tommy Stinson (just as Duff was before). He's got the goth dude in Finck. He's got Dizzy, with the alt-rock-rasta-haired look going on. Richard Fortus is the modern, trendy rock guitarist. Brain is the nu-metal link. Buckethead is the weirdo who expresses himself (a VERY popular thing to do).

You can't mean to tell me that this was all by chance.  ;)

And it all helps to push the image to the kids down below who will be (hopefully) buying this stuff as the target audience. Because really, this is the only way that Axl as a guy over 40 can look relevant to hyper-modern-MTV-bullshit music.

I just  burned all of my GNr material on to some CDs for my friend who listens to New Found Glry and all of that crap.  Gnr is his new fav band!  I am converting people to good music, hahahahaha

Slashisthebest

I'm 19, so I guess technically not in the younger generation you guys are talking about, and I personally hate this so-called "rock" today. The grunge/punk, and alternative stuff all sounds the same and blends together no matter what group is performing it. I think we're at the point as it was in the late 80's, all the watered down music is going to die when a TRUE rock band comes along like GnR. GnR is the best band I've ever heard and I truly hope that someone will at least attempt to get out of this monotony and play some old-school hard rock. So to answer your question, if the new Guns n Roses sticks with the classic roots, I think this generation will accept them in time.

At the moment, I am tring to come up with some good, hard riffs and lyrics worthy of being called hard rock.  I am trying to start a band in the Seattle area, but it is hard to find people how want to play GNR type material.  I really want to being the heavyness and danger back into rock but is harder than it looks or sounds.  I also hate almost all new music.  I like the Darkness, the new Incubus CD (its prettyn hard from the one or two tracks i've heard), and I like the Foo Fighter.  Any way I havent posted in a while, I was on vactaion and have had a lot of homework.  A lot of people at my school listen to new stuff but one by one I am converting them all by either playing GNR stuff for them on my CD player or on Guitar.

Later,

Slashisthebest

P.S.  

Does anyone have a full length studio recording of Slither by Velvet Revolver yet?  I only have the live version and I also have the short studio clip.  Email me if you have it or want to trade.

This will sound weird coming from a 19 year old,but the vast majority of people my age are complete morons musically speaking.They listen to whatever is "cool" at the time,so practically to what MTV feeds them.

I wanted to ask if you thought it would be the fans who didn't get to see old guns play that will make the new guns big? I ask this because I have checked a few page threads over the year and most seem to be teenagers on all the forums..

 Forums have about 4000- 6000 members(bigger forums), and alot of them are the same people from each just registering around and I'm sure some have duplicate usernames..

I just threw that in there, the average seems about 17yrs old..

I know alot of older people don't get into the music the same anymore, I loved alot of great groups over the years from the late 80's on, but I don't want to buy their records now..

Say metallica , poison, motley crue, skid row, van halen, etc released new albums, I wouldn't run out to buy them, but I would have picked them up ten years ago... Could this have the same affect with new gnr, afterall alot of older groups sales have declined..

I guess the younger generation will need to carry new gnr the same way the people my age ran out and bought the gnr albums when they came out..

I hope it's a varitey of us Gunner young or mid aged.
I just wouldn't like it if the kids that think Simple Plan is hot now,grab on to GN'R....But I don't think it will end up that way.

As long as the album is good,I don't care.....The music is important to me,and if it don't sell tons,then oh well as I don't expcet it too.

you dont buy the new stuff n' wonder why sales are declined :hihi:
Today it's all about MTV n' all that fag shit, the younger people, fuckin' teenagers who buy the singles n' make the top 50 the way it is, todays scene is so unfair n' so trend setting, it's fucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Chinese Democracy is no. 1 n' destroys everything in it's path, not only IMO is it a success but it will change of whats todays thing on MTV, some no. 1 fuck always comes along n' changes the trends, JET has had a big impact on the rock scene (they thanked The Vines for for doing so on the Areas) n' has helped alot. I think the new one is gonna do just that.
Im gettin' carried away here, dont know how to really answer your question, it all adds up i guess. :peace:

By the way dude, if you dont run out to buy those bands new albums, what do you buy then ???

I do think the younger folks would support a new GnR album. Axl was the last real rock n roll rebel and I think there is a big fascination with him. Even doing so little to expose himself over the years he still gets media attention. For example I live in Toronto and we have a news station on TV that has weather,news etc all day. There is a small section where news alerts are shown relating to anything breaking. Twice I have seen things like AXL being sued, and AXL sues over Greatest hits. Very rarely is any other band mentioned let alone one that is definitely off the radar. But yes the younger folks would definitly be into GnR.

I also think older folks would like it too. Guns are not like Poison, Motley, even Metallica. They are hard pure rock n roll band. They had so many hit songs from so few albums that older people don't forget that.

Back to the young folks again. A short while back after a hockey game we were all in the dressing room. 1 young guy (maybe 19) says he is going to a club where they play hard rock music. One guy asked..."specifically what type of bands?"
" GUNNERS!!!!!!" he answered. Thats pretty cool since he would have been like 8 or 10 when Guns were bigtime.

I was born the same year appetite was released one thing i remember from my childhood was Axl sitting at the piano in Nov. Rain i first started listening to them after the VMA's and if i can get hooked after one arguably mediocore performance im sure other kids can

Speaking of hockey, I had a hockey game last year, and my team was changing in the locker room right next to the other team, which had loud music.  Most of the music was crummy, but then (out of all the songs for hockey), they played November Rain and Knockin' On Heaven's Door, and left these songs on in their entirety, unlike some of the other songs.  A good sign indeed.

I'd say that the ideal record buying public would be adolesence to, say, about 35, so the young lads are certainly going to have to play a hand is helping this record reach it's full commercial potential....

I think Axl realized that the bands who make music for their 'old fans' have to face the fact that new generations don't really buy their albums. Look at Rolling Stones: they don't sell albums as much as they did (but on the other hand they have sell-out tours). IMO Axl's idea was to refresh GN'R with the industrial sound and industrial people (Finck, Vrenna, Moby), but the music fashion changed he went to another direction, but kept the look that's popular today: Finck, who looks like one of the Mansons and Buckethead who looks like someone from Slipdisc and he made himself look really ermm... 'new'. But only new fans can make big sells, it's always the 13-25 years olds who buy the most albums. My friends, who are above 25 didn't know that GN'R still exixst (although GN'R was their favourite band, but they're just not too internet-type people) or they didn't like nor the new GN'R songs I showed them, neither the old ones performed by the new band. I'm not a big fan of the Nu-GN'R, but I like it better than they do, tried to pursuade them to listen it more, but they still didn't find it any good. Maybe because the band had new members, maybe because my friends grew older, maybe because they really didn't like the music... They didn't like VR, too... So Axl really needs the new fans, sadly those who (or some of them) are hostile against the old line-up. I don't really care, I want Axl to be big again, but - what's more important for me - to release albums. Often.  :peace:

I have already said it before here on the forum and I will say it again. The GNR style (looks, music, attitude etc.) from the 80's/early 90's will become HUGE again. The kids will dress like that, look like that and will want to listen to that. So Axl will be cool again as will Slash and maybe Duff in a lesser extent. So if Axl makes an album in the old-school Rock N Roll style the kids will totally dig it. Young kids will look up to him again, especially the way he was in the 80's.

Believe me.

Young kids will drive the new GnR to success.....if they ever release the album.

I just read today in the paper about Iron Maiden coming to play in Sweden next summer and how they're gonna play lots of old stuff. Stuff that their younger fans never saw performed live. I think something similar might happen with GN'R. Lots of young people have discovered the band after they ended the UYI tour.

So, yes I think the younger fans will be inportant if GN'R wants to be big again. They also seem more open to the idea of the new band.



/jarmo

 "They also seem more open to the idea of the new band."

I agree  : ok:

Yeap, like me :)

To have success you need 2 things:
1) Good music.
2) Promotion.
I think back in the days, the promotion of the old band was absolutely phenomenal: they were everywhere, on MTV on magazines, press, television, newspaper, on stores (remmber the GN'R tee-shirts) etc... everywhere. and the music was really great so that's why it worked and why they sold so much records and sold out stadiums all over the world.
Good music + promotion = the key of success.

I agree about the young fans because unlike alot of us older fans who have certain feelings the younger kids will just treat it as music only.. I'm not just talking about the forum peoiple because they are the ones that are definetly going to buy it regardless of the disagreements.

SOmeone asked if I don';t buy those albums then what do I buy? I have such a classic collection of rock music from the earlier 90's back that I buy maybe three new albums a year..


I don't want to sound like an old man, but there was something special about being involved with a great band during their glory days, the idea about being out with friends enjoying a weekend at a party (with gnr cranking) with buds from HS... The music is such a big part of the timne, it's what sticks in your head growing up.. Pricelss mo0ments, that's something I had with gnr, it's times I'll never forget..

I had mentioned how I wouldn't be inclined to buy records from bands I enjoyed years ago growing up.. There's something about when the band is big and you're in that moment, it's magical... So many bands don't release as good of albums as years go on..

Bands like aero, metallica, motley crue, van halen, bon jovi, whitesnake, maiden, priest, scorpions, def lepp, etc etc were all things I enjoyued growing up, but the passion for them are gone, I still love the old albums, but for some reason I'm not interested in their new works.. New gnr is the only older band in which I care about the new stuff.. Those other bands served a great time in my life, but gnr is more of my life,.. That's why I was/am excited about VR..

I wouldn't give shit about a vince neil side project, or nikki six..

One more thing to add, i saw someone wrote they didn't want the music to be embraced by fans of bands like simple plan, I disagree, I think that it's music and everyone should enjoy it.. It's not like your bon jovi, cinderella, winger fan didn't embrace gnr back in the day..

To be successfull you have to make music for everybody, music that everybody can enjoy, not only teenagers.
Guns n' Roses is not Boyzone. Everybody should be able to enjoy the new Guns n' Roses music.

if the music is good, then it MIGHT sell well to younger kids.. i'm 17 and in high school right now and i'm sad to say that maybe 4 kids in the whole school actually care for guns n roses.. everyone else is into emo/pop/goth music.. and most of the emo/goth kids HATE axl with a passion.. why? the goth kids hate him for "ruining" the metallica/gnr tour (which most of em werent even old enuff to go to but theyre still pissed about it) and the emo kids hate him because of axl's confrontation w/ kurt cobain..

Its understandable, I hate Nirvana because of his confrontation with axl  :hihi:,oh and...because i dont like their music. :P
Im 22, I was 5-6 years old when AFD first came out and I remember being in front of my tv watching sweet child of mine , welcome to the jungle and paradise city and I was totally rockin' ,  :hihi: Imagine that, a 6 year old kid totally getting into GNR , my little friends at school used to tell me GNR was the devil  :hihi: use your illusion 2 was the first album I ever bought (on cassette though) Although I lived the experience through the tv screen I can say I wish I would've been at least 5 years older ...I loved the music but I didnt really understand the songs, only the choruses (english is not my native tongue). So yeah I feel like I missed something and Im looking fwd to the new GNR.
I remember the first time I heard, 'what do we got here is failure to communicate...'  :smoking: just awesome. And I had to turn off 'my world' because of the orgasmic sounds, I was afraid my momma heard it.
 :hihi:

I think they will get into it. There will be an entire new fan base, apart from old die-hard fans like us. And all that will be 'coz of GNR's more contemporary sound.

i cant play rocket queen on my sterio out loud in my house w/ parents present because of the moaning of the hooker.. :hihi:

i know a girl who loves nin and she loves dave navarro but when i told her she'd like Oh my god, he dismissed it right away because axl sings in it..

although alot of people in my school dont like gnr or skid row because of the vocals but they like ac/dc and aerosmith.. how does that work? they dismiss bands just because they were labeled "80's metal"

i'm not saying that my school represents the whole youth as general but what i'm tryin to say is that a lot of kids will immediately say "the single's catchy but i dont like em" only because of a bias towards "80's metal"

I agree the old days they were everywhere, I have lkike twenty something t shirts from those days.. Back then I could go into any place that sold music to find things for gnr.. ;D

1) Comparing Guns n' Roses to this ridiculous has-been hair-metal band called "skid row" is a crime.
2) Guns n' Roses never were "80's metal". They never were "metal". and they were much more popular in the early 90's than in the 80's.

You're wrong from A to Z.

I wouldn't compare skid row to gnr but skid row had some cool tunes, 18 n life, I remember you, youth gone wild.. I still love those songs.. There were alot of talented bands in the 80's, they just didn't get the longjevity and respect because of labels (big hair)..... It doesn't take their talent away..

I don't think he meant that he considers gn'r to be "80's metal". He means that that's the tag that has been placed on their name from the get-go, and about how kids who don't understand that might respond to it.

I'll be seventeen in January, but am stuck in the late 80's and everything because the music makes me feel good and they're not screaming and it was very accessable to listen to. However, the sound and image of gn'r has changed drastically and had I not been a fan of them in the first place, chances are 50/50 that I would be interested in Chinese Democracy... the other half being because music today just sucks (again) and virtually any rock fan is willing to give ANY new rock band a chance right now.

Also, you can still be a "edgy" rock band by carrying out your scheduled gigs.

1, Don't call Skid Row a 'hair metal' band. It's the lame Courney 'I-have-no-talent' Love's bullshit. Skid Row was one of the most talented bands in the 80s and 90s. Slave to the Grind is an essential record. Have you heard it?

2, Stupid Courtney Love calls GN'R a 'hair band', too. Fuckin' bitch. Such a shame that Kurt didn't made that bitch shut up.

I totally agree on this but it?s also true many people categorize GNR into hair metal or metal. Especially metal magazines where they put unfair reviews on VGH. I rarely read them but my mates told me. Seems As if those metal writers want GNR look 80's metalish so bad that they keep dissing new lineups. They mislead their readers as to GNR and separate the band from general music fans. See their brilliant achievement below

I hope they set GNR free. Clearly GNR is above petty sectionalisms. Look at a dazzling variety of members.

i never said gnr were 80's metal or hair metal.. i just said that people dont even give gnr a fair chance because they're labelled 80's metal..

I was wondering about new Guns N' Roses fans--the teenagers of today.

-Are kids also listening to VH and the Crue? Or is GN'R getting more attention?
-Did they get hooked onto GN'R via the Greatest Hits album?
- Are GN'R a band that the "cool" kids like nowadays?
-Any experience dealing with new fans?

i just graduated high school. ive been a true, hardcore fan of the band since 2000,  before their recent resurgence. but ya, the whole boom is based on two things...firstly, a larger base of kids these days are into rock, and therefore they seek out bands to like, and when they run out of present, current bands, they have to go back a little further. secondly, the greatest hits album hooked most of the new fans. gnr is almost like a fad nowadays. in my high school i would probably see 4 or 5 GNR shirts a day. everybody knows the big songs, and its a shame because these "fans" wont go get all the albums and come to appreciate the other gems.

As a 19 year old I feel like I'm able to answer this question quite well...
1. ?VH and Crue are generally listened to by the white kids in our neighborhood, sorry if I come off racist here but it's like immigrants here outnumber the white kids by like 10 to 1. ?GNR gets totally more attention, by the white kids.
2. ?I got hooked on GNR through the Greatest Hits album, it really started when I was downloading music for my hockey games and I listened to jungle and you could be mine lots.
3. ?GNR aren't necessarily 'cool' nowadays, they're basically viewed as classic rock and not much more.

To go with the 3rd point, the 'cool' kids are generally the Fitty gangstas acting all dangerous. ?Now I'm an Asian, and the general conception is that Asians dress like pussies with the tight jeans and big hair. ?I don't claim to be dangerous, but I feel a sense of 'levelled' playing field when I know GNR dressed like pussies too, and they were just as dangerous as Fitty or MIKE JONES!..... ?who? ... ?MIKE JONES! ?Anyways yeeah I'm influenced by the media a little too much.... :crying:

4. ?I guess I'm a new fan, I've been listening to them for like two/three years.

well, i'm 16, and presently go to highschool, so here's my thoughts on this:
1- i don't think anyone cares much about VR or the crue particularly here.. both bands' players are too old to be really popular with the teenybopper crowd and such. gn'r gets the most attention of the three i'd say... even if kids don't know the albums or the great songs, they know welcome to the jungle, and sometimes sweet child of mine and paradise city.
2- speaking for myself, i know i did (get hooked via greatest hits..) so i'll assume some others did as well. gn'r as a band was reccommended to me, and i was trying to find another cd for the 2 for 25 deal on... and i came across it and decided, what the hell.

3- the cool kids here like shit like simple plan and 50 cent and that sort of atrocious shit.... but the kids who know music usually like gn'r or at least know who they are, etc.
4- new fans, i've met a lot of 'em, lent out my gn'r dvds quite a lot of times. i swear to god, if the mainstream kids knew about this shit, they'd be all over it. the only reason most of them don't know about it is because it's easier to know music that plays on the airwaves and shit, and don't bother looking for music elsewhere. even though it's 'dated', it's really not. it's so accessible, and that rawness and potency that gn'r had(has)... it just never gets old.

11th grader in high school. Also, im in L.A... somewhere you'd expect the guns to be popular... well heres your answers.. at least at my school.

-Are kids also listening to VH and the Crue? Or is GN'R getting more attention?
   I'd say that Crue is getting the most attention at my school (reunion tour and the red, white, crue cd help em out). GN'R has almost none.
-Did they get hooked onto GN'R via the Greatest Hits album?
   I have talked to alot of people who have said "O GN'R? Yeah I have their greatest hits. Totally rocks"  :hihi: .. totally rocks?
- Are GN'R a band that the "cool" kids like nowadays?
  No0o0o0o0o0o. Not even close. The "popular" people all laugh when I bring em up.. Most peoples only experence with GN'R consists of Axl's appearance at the VMA's and laugh about his voice during Jungle/ how he looked. Also.. NO ONE likes Buckethead. They all laugh their asses off about him.  :no:. I think they are uncool cuz most people haven't given em a listen.
-Any experience dealing with new fans?
  Not really.. I have gotten some people to listen to Appetite.. they liked it. But most kids in high school are into looking as "ganstah" as they can. Fucking gay. Some people at my school don't even like SCOM or Jungle. Whaa!? Whatever. I've even talked to people who think VR is more talented than the old GN'R. Whaaa!??!!?!?

In conclusion.. if MTV hypes up CD and makes it "trendy" everyone at my school will buy.. cuz theyre all gay asses who want to be "cool."

    -jack

I don't Listen to VH or Crue. My friends and i even the area i live in is getting more GnR-esque. where as before you'd see people wearing Zeppelin or Metallica shirts i'm seeing more AFD/GnR shirts around.

I first heard GnR as a kid but never latched onto it till I couldn't get Jungle out of my head after playing Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Last year, I found Appetite on Amazon and listened to the samples. I bought it and then followed by the Illusion Albums fell in love with GnR's Music. I have never owned and probably will never own the Greatest Hits.

I wouldn't Say GnR are Cool just yet. Although if CD comes out and is something different than the options available to kids now then yeah i guess they might. The options right now are: Get screamed at about dying, Shaking ya booty, Listening to people tell you about their street survival in "Da Ghetto" and really emo bands. If Axl can release something hard rock sounding without screaming at people then yes i think he can.

and i've had tons of experience with New Fans. I started to listening to GnR and now all my friends do. they ask me Q's about it all the time and i get embarrased cos i always know the answer lol. I am officially a GnR Geek.

One thing that made me laugh was some guy on the net asked me why i didn't buy Appetite when it came out. So i had to point out to him that when it came out i was 5 Days Old lol. but i definetly remember hearing SCOM as a kid.

Well I'm 20 and GN'R's been my favorite band for a little more than three years now.  I love both Motley Crue and Van Halen (Roth only).  I became a fan well before the Greatest Hits came out.  I became a fan cause a few of my friends liked GN'R.  They played some of their songs for me and I've been addicted ever since.  I wouldn't say GN'R is the band that the "cool" kids listen to nowadays.  Me and my friends weren't exactly the cool kids in high school...well actually, we were the baddest motherfuckers in that school, but that's cause we weren't like teeny bopper cool, we were badass rockstar cool...but I digress.  Me and my friends actually got quite a few other people from my high school into GN'R.  But no, most of the so called "cool kids" probably aren't GN'R fans.  But there were definitely less GN'R fans when I started high school (1999) than when I finished (2003).

I'm 20, from belgium...

Lately I must say gnr is back here, almost every time i go to a show or a festival someone tells me how cool my T-shirt is (always wearing gnr shirts) and how cool gnr is!!

my girlfriend doesn't like this at all :p she's a marilyn manson fan :D

But really since the greatest hits GnR is relevant here!!!

my brother in law and his dad own a music store that isn't geared towards mainstream, more clients are college kids.. He tells me to this day AFD sells like crazy.. I think to young rock fans afd is that must have album that an older person would tell a younger person getting into rock to have..

I definetly think kids are listening to motley crue as well... I don't know about VH, but if they listen to any rock station classic then they are hearing a good 10 song rotation..

I haven't met any new fans, but I have met a lot of people my age n older that were confused about the vmas that being their only new gnr experience..

When I think gnr I have to think the members that have left as well.. I do ask about both new gnr and vr with people I meet on construction sites and vr is somewhat know too, so to me that is good for anything gnr..

Most people in high school (from my experience) are into either the gagster rap (watch MTV Video awards or similar to see what I mean) or emo.  I'm from canada so watching the Much Music countdown pretty much sums up what people listen to (which is pretty depressing).  I think Guns 'n Roses is becoming more popular with the not so popular crowd, because they are becoming more aware cause of Greatest Hits.  G'nR is now the cool thing for the outside crowd, similar to the Zeppelin resurgance that is kinda occuring at the same time.  It's kinda depressing that all teens listen to is Greatest Hits cause G'nR isn't a Greatest Hits band and the magic of gnr is in the albums as a whole (as we discussed when greatest hits was coming out).

On the side note, I'm amazed how many people here are new fans.  I've been listening to G'nR for like, 7 years now (I'm only 19).  I remember reading about how classic rock is starting to become huge and classic rock radio is gaining a huge teenage audience because teens are getting pissed off at the commercialization of music that's being thrown at them.

I think that Guns n Roses is becoming more popular then it was say, 2 or 3 years ago - but I don't think it will ever go back to being "really" popular.  I know about 3 people at my school who love them.  Everyone else thinks they are so old - they are 'dead' (see what you've done Axl?!) Anyway!  So yeah  :yes:  Maybe they are getting a little bit more popular?

I? m 16 and a real GnR fan since two years now. I also listen to Motley Crue, Aerosmith etc... but GnR is definetly my favorite band.
I got hooked on GnR when I saw the SCOM video for the first time (yes, even MTV plays something decent every now and then...) and then I bought AFD, UYI, ...

The ?cool? kids in my school don? t listen to GnR at all. They rather like gangster hiphop shit like 50 cent... and those who consider themselves as rock fans listen to Simple Plan, Limp Bizkit, Good Charlotte...? ?::) I bet half of them don? t even know about Guns n? Roses.

Somebody once asked me ?What? s the point in being a fan of a band that doesn? t exist anymore??? What a stupid question. I guess all the people who like the Beatles, Nirvana or whatever should stop listening to their favorite bands then and buy the latest Avril Lavigne record instead. Besides, GnR does still exist, but that? s a fact that is even more unknown then the band itself. Robin Finck? Buckethead? What? s a buckethead?? :hihi:

Seeing that there aren? t really any GnR fans around, I haven? t made any experiences dealing with new fans. Well, thanks to me my friend and her older sister also like GnR now and they? ve bought the Greatest Hits album, but that? s all.


PS: Sorry for my English, I hope you can understand what I wrote.

well i`m 16 years old and from germany. i think gnr is quite popular here. the people at my school who are into rock like gnr very well, but most only know the "big" songs. i know about some young gnr fans, but most didn`t get into gnr, because of the greatest hits.
anyway... i don`t know even ONE person who likes crue or velvet revolver. some of my friends were at rock am ring and saw velvet revolver live. they said that slash was cool as hell and the rest of the band except dave and scott were also cool, but scott destroyed the show, because he was a gay idiot.

ok now to the new band :peace: :  i think 87% of the people here don`t even know they exist and didn`t even saw the vmas, but noone is thinking negative about them. most of my friends saw some dvds of the new gnr and liked it. i think the most liked guy was buckethead next to axl.     i gave the boston 3cam dvd to a friend without knowing it and he told me how great he found it. i was really surprised, because imo there are way better shows of 2002 tour and i didn`t know he had it.

i think the main point why most people aren`t into gnr is, that they don`t even know they exist....   time for axl to change this! ;)

that' s interesting. I live in Austria, quite close to the german border, but as I said in my post, the situation in my school is entirely different. Guess it depends on the people.


Agreed!? ;)

well over here kerrang and VH2 are always showing gnr videos and stuff, so anyone that likes rock is gonna see them on tv

Not surprising. Buckethead made the new GN'R be a total joke all around the world. The guy has zero popularity potencial. You can't expect anything from a guy like that, not in term of human aspects (I don't know him), but in term of musical and "Rockability" aspect. In the entire Rock History, I think I have never seen such an "anti-star" like that. Buckethead is a guy who can ruin your band image in a second. You just put him on TV and the drama happens. People leave, or change the channel.
His departure is the best thing that could ever happen. The man is destinied to stay in the shadow, and to keep going his solo carreer. I'm sorry for the BH's fans out there (you must be the only ones on this planet though), but Buckethead massively hurt GN'R.

It's called a "casting error". The wrong man at the wrong place in the wrong band. I hope this (desapointing) GN'R-buckethead chapter is over. Keep on going with the Richard-Robin duet. They are perfect. They are good payers, cohesive, friends, they really complete each other.

To come back on topic, it will be as simple as that: IF CD is good, yes there will be a new generation of GN'R fans.

I'm 16 and from Ireland (so I'll be talking about how I see things over here)

-I listen to the Crue but not VH.
-I didn't get hooked via the GH, I don't even own the GH, I got hooked through the UYI II video when I was about 8-10 years old.
-No way are GnR cool nowadays not even slightly!! Although they are a bit of a cult obsession!
-My only experience dealing with newer fans are some of my friends, I have a few friends who dig GnR too. Mainly under my influence.

i got into GNR when i was 13. im 15 now, when i was in my mid 14 time i got into VH. Then recently listened to motley crue. Like them all.

YAY IM A TEENAGE FAN OF TODAY! :peace:

well i agree with your last sentence nesquick. but i totally disagree with the rest. i don`t know if you ever listened to buckets solo stuff. i think he`s an amazing guitarist and was an enrichment to gnr. as i said in my previous post the people i know, who know the " new" gnr (i mean the version that played in '02), like buckethead most, so you can`t say that only some idiots like him ( i know that you didn`t say it this way), because you don`t like him.

anyway,  i`m fine with robin and richard as the guitarists in gnr...




well  it`s not that they`re really popular over here, but the people who are into rock and not listening to hiphop or that kind of music, like them.
but it`s just a matter of promotion i think. and i`m living in NRW so it`s not that close to you... :hihi:     and i think the greatest hits was definitely not a good album because of the crappy tracklist, but it was no bad idea, since i know some people who actually bought it and got into gnr a bit.

I'm 17 and from greece.In the region I live noone knows gn'r. In my school the ''cool'' kids listen mainly eminem,50 cent e.t.c. There are just a few kids they like rock music but like Katrin said they're more into Limp Bizkit e.t.c. I quite listen to Cure but not so much V.H. I started listenin' gn'r music via G.H. , cause when it was comin' out , the greek music channel had their concert at tokyo '92 as an advertisement and when I listened to the songs I loved them so much that I bought UYI1&2. Of course I had heard SCOM,YCBM,WTTJ before but I hadn't pay much attention. Here it's so difficult to find gn'r related stuff that I don't own anything else than that,except a few dvds.That means they don't listen gn'r anymore, at least in greece. A few friends of mine listen to them lately because of me, basically.

I've been listening to Guns n' Roses the past 4 years, or maybe 6 and I'm 18.

im 21 Years old, been listening to GNR since.. hmm 1990.. I was only 6 years old when i first saw the band on TV. And then it was done! so... ive been listening to it since..

im 20 and have only been really listening to them the last year and a half, always knew who GNR were and knew the well known songs. The friend got me into them and im glad he did really, great band even if the old band isint together but ill wait and see what the new band will do.   

I've been a fan for a few years now. I'm only 16. At my school, most people know who they are but only know the big songs (WTTJ, PC, & SCOM). Out of the all the people I hang out with, only a couple actually own a gnr album. Usually it is AFD or GH. Most of the people that like rock music in my school only listen to bands like slipknot and those so-called "punk" bands. Sometimes these two teachers will blare the GH album between classes  :yes: and most of the "cool" kids will know what it is.

When I talk about the new band to my friends and other people, they think that they are a joke. The only thing that they have seen of them is the VMA performance. They always bring up how BH looks stupid and then they make fun of the rest of the band. But when I lest them borrow my RIR3 dvd thier minds change.

As for the "cool" kids, they are mostly into whatever is new and popular but still accept gnr.
Recently this year, I've seen a few more people with gnr shirts than normal but thats not sayin much cuz our local kmart carries a couple gnr shirts  :( and people just wear them cuz they think they are cool.

I was out the other day and all of a sudden I hear some kid singing Madagascar! I wasnt paying attention at first but then it just clicked. I turned aroudn and was like wow. Some1, some complete stranger is singing Madagascar. It was the 1st time I have heard some1 sing a new gnr tune. It was cool.

I went over and told him Im a huge fan and then gave him a copy of the new songs I had in my car cause i had IRS on it and he never heard it.

I'm almost 18, but I'm here for my last year of high-school, and there are plenty who are aware of Guns, but there are more fans of Velvet Revolver since they're considered "current." I mean, I've seen a few Guns t-shirts around -- but that was when it was the thing to do, and they don't wear them anymore. You know, just wearing a vintage band for the sake of wearing a vintage band. So, I'm assuming that those sporting the VR shirts are legit fans since it's not really "vintage," and usually it's a tour t-shirt or something. I don't know, down here in South FL, Guns has the respect of most everyone.

I think the greatest hits album that came out in 2004 and the Velvet Revolver hype drew young fans into Guns n' Roses. Ever since around that era was when I noticed youngsters got interested in the band. In the class of 2006 in my school, me and my buddy were the first ones to grow our hair long and wear bandshirts starting in middle school.

I discovered GNR when I was 16.
I believe that their music is timeless and that there's an audience for the old catalog. It would be nice if their music could get out a bit more. I thought it was killer when they put GNR on "Grand Theft Auto."
Now that Im 23, the situation around me from the peoples I know is that they all like GNR, but I can't say that they are as fervent a fan as I am, nor can they appreciate the songs that weren't hits. I know that perspective is much than when I was 10-12 years  old and kids my age were writing GNR off as "has-beens" and an "80s band."
Great Rock N' Fucking Roll Never dies.

MNR

i'm 15 and i live in toronto...practically no one at my school listens to GnR, just me and my friends, but VH, Motley Crue and a bunch of other "old" bands are popular, but only w/ the headbangers and what they call the "true rockers". everyone else who considers themselves a rocker listens to simple plan, good charlotte, greenday and my chemical romance :confused:, so it's not really a trend at my school.

People who like GnR have like GnR for a long time, they don't own the Greatest Hits (most acquired the taste for GnR by listening to AFD or watching music videos, including myself) but GnR is by no means a band that "cool" kids like...all the "cool" kids are into hip-hop and pop and all that crap.

As for new fans, i am recruiting them all the time, and no, I won't allow any of them to listen to the Greatest Hits, they are hearing everything or nothing, or else, as I've said to them many times, "You will not experience the essence of GnR" : ok:

1....donno
2...no people didnt... i got everyone in my school hooked on appetite...i dont even have greatist hits...but im getting it in a day or 2 :hihi:
3....well the cool kids only like wttj and stuff...i preformed for them at my schools attempt ripoff of canadian/american idol me and my friend performed sweet child of mine and they loved it...we won!
4...dealt with new fans...i have to explain the whollllllllllllllllle guns story from bill bailey to hollywood roses...to guns to axl no shows to now...and then they get it...tell to there friends and then the kids come to me asking to here the story of the gunsand roses and it makes me feel like i am axl..explaining. and stuff....stupid kids....sucks that they are our future.........

i got kids into rock...unlike the people in my classes...i will be like "anyone see the heavy metal moments on mtv last night ...guns were on it" and they would say "who cares there was a 50 sent, iminem, snop dog, loyd banks and dr drew reunion super show on mtv2 channel. they played the best song ever called drop those panties before my hoe takes her machete to your ass" and i will be like "rap sucks" and they will start throwing a fit becuase they cant think of anything smart to say so they run off with there snop dogey album and have fun...fuck i hate rap

I am 15 and Ive been a fan since I was 2(being back in 92 when they were HUGE).
God no. Well not in my neck of the woods. I get bagged heaps. "Guns n Roses? haha, maybe in the 60's..." >:(

Hard to say if there are many "teen" fans of guns around. I guess there is a generation 16 to whatever that either was already into guns when they were huge in the 90s or they got into it by listening to stuff from their older brothers;)

All I know is that Guns still seem to be pretty damn huge in South America! Everytime I talk to someone from there they definetely know who GnR are and know their songs. People from Cali do not seem to know GnR anymore...at least that is my impression.

But I think when CD (ever) will come out it will be a huge success with younger people as well. Hard Rock is not dead, maybe more alive then ever. Just look at bands like Iron Maiden or the reunioned M?tley Cr?e. Their touring in europe was an enoumous success, expecially at festivals attended by younger people. Some Rock Legends just never die!
I guess if CD appears there will be an immense hype about it and Axl Rose, maybe one of the most notable and reckless frontmen in rock history. So teens, fed up with this chart bs will eventually start to get into it.

Oh only to show that Mr. Rose is definetely "IN" next year in fashion at least, just take a look at the catwalk of number nine couture: http://www.vogue.co.uk/shows/photos/Default.aspx?showID=2610&type=show&pageNo=1

I'm 20 and have only been a fan for a few years now.
Don't own the GH album, got hooked by someone sending me Madagascar and I fell in love with it. Its still my favourite GnR song.

I then got my 15 yr old sister hooked onto them too :D. Shes also a Crue (of the Motley variety... I assume thats who you were talking about) fan, they are coming to Australia soon actually. But she loves GnR more. And now all her school fans are into GnR too...suddenly its cool to like them again it seems, at least around here.

I'm 16 and the first time I listened to Gn'R was like 3 years ago.. And I got hooked right away  :yes: And now I'm already collecting rarities and that kind of stuff  8) Most of the "new fans" may have bought the GH and listened to some Dont Cry and SCOM, and now they think that they are tru fans. Well.. yeah. I bet that they dont even know the name of the debut album  :P

It sounds embarrasing.....but my mom got me into GnR.  :-[ She used to tell me about songs like Paradise city and Sweet Child O' Mine. So one day I got curious and bought Appetite and enjoyed GnR since.

Man its actually very very disturbing to sit here and watch these ppl here write about GNR in mid highschool 16,17.

The disturbing part about is that ive been there. Im 21 now it doesnt feel like all that long ago but when i was 16 and 17 GNR was just getting back out there when i was 18 They were on there tour so much anticipation now. I will never lose interest but if u compare my level of interest in the band right now compared to then its about 40% lower. For the music its the same but not the band. Unfortunate part is I hope these ppl that are 16 on here dont end up my age and not experiencing anything at all. I hope everything is worth the wait...

thanks for everyone who has responded, especially the younger people.  I am not all that much older than you at 24, but I don't exactly hang out at high schools to see what kids are listening to. 

When I was in high school a few years ago ALL of my friends loved GNR.  We still talk about them all the time.  We all borrowed that SPIN magazine from each other all summer long after graduation.  At work we would talk about it and the weird shit Axl must be doing. 

But anyways, I think its pretty clear now that your average teenager is not exactly knowledgable of GNR. 

If u mean VH=Van Halen, then yes. no one i know listens to it in my school (I'm 15 btw) and i do love Motley Crue. my girlfriend listens to it.
I got into GN'R because i saw the WTTJ video on Kerrang! and because I'd never hurd that type of music before, i thought it was cool

Well man, I think when I started being a GNR fan, it was 4 years ago, and I was a teenager then, now Im 20 years Old, ?even When Im not a teenager anymore, Im also a kid yet.... ?

1.- I never liked VH, or the fucking Crue, they have some good songs dude, but for me, someone comparing GNR with bands like Motley Crue its kind of an offense...
2.- The new fans, really like the band, for albums such as AFD and the Illusions, they never got the GH,as long as I know...
3.- I dont exactly know who are the cool boys, or the uncool boys, I dont care... everyone is able to love Gnr...

I have been a Guns N Roses fan for the better part of my life. I started jamming to GNR when I was in 2nd grade. We had a day in class that you had to dress up as what you wanted to be when you grow up. Some kids were Police Men, Astronauts, Teachers, and there was me I wanted to be Axl Rose. I'm now 25 and none of my friends are into Guns. Well to the point of the thread I am glad my love for Guns N Roses has brushed off on someone and thats my Nephew who is in 7th grade. He is into GNR and is always borrowing T-Shirts to wear to school because all of his friends think the old shirts are awesome. From what I hear the Jr High kids enjoy rock from the 80's. Most are into Van Halen, and Motley some are into Def Leppard and even a few are into Nirvana. I know all of these bands are staples in music but it surprises me that a Jr High kid would rather listen to Van Halen than one of the "cool" new bands. So my questions for those that are still in their teens is it because you love the music from the classic bands or is it that music now sucks!

16 male chicago

-Are kids also listening to VH and the Crue? Or is GN'R getting more attention?
most of my friends listen to metal (crue, =VH=, maiden, priest) i'd say maiden gets the most attention, but people still like gn'r, but no one believes in Axl.
-Did they get hooked onto GN'R via the Greatest Hits album?
i got hooked from AFD
- Are GN'R a band that the "cool" kids like nowadays?
the "cool" kids like emo shit.
-Any experience dealing with new fans?
hmmm..i duno when my friends got into GN'R but, we planned to go to a concert when somethin happens.

18 and from Germany

- Are kids also listening to VH and the Crue? Or is GN'R getting more attention?

  I also listen to VR, not that much to Crue, though I read The Dirt and liked it a lot. At my school I'm almost alone with my GNR fandom, many people know the band, but only a few of their songs. I've seen two people wearing a GNRshirt, but I'm quite sure at least one of them only had it because the logo looks good.

-Did they get hooked onto GN'R via the Greatest Hits album?

  Well, I didn't. I knew GNR since I was a little girl. my mum is a fan, too, she listened to them a lot. (therefore 'guns' and 'rose' were some of the first english words I learned). Some years ago I moved her CDs to my room.

- Are GN'R a band that the "cool" kids like nowadays?

 No. at least not here. Rock music in generel is not cool. Techno is cool. I usually get some strange looks when I tell someone what I'm listening to, especially because I'm a girl.

-Any experience dealing with new fans?
Yes, everyday when looking into the mirror  ;D

It's weird to see some people associating GN'R and van hallen or motley crue. It's absolutely not the same music. In Europe, people generally associate GN'R to Nirvana, the early 90's erea, they were the two biggest rock bands back in the days, GN'R wasn't a hair-metal 80's one with fluo pants and heartless masturbating shredd guitar solos, make-up and superficial image :nervous:
They were real. I see it as a disgrace to compare GN'R to any 80's hair metal bands. Cinderella, poison, Motley Crue, white Lions, Warrent...give me a break. GN'R never was that. Steven Adler explained it very well in VH1-BTM, and he was right.
GN'R went very popular? and big in Europe in the early 90's, during the Use Your the Illusion erea. AFD never had that much success here, in term of record sales, contrary to America. AFD was a typical American phenomenon I think. Europeans are more into the USI songs like November rain or Don't cry. It was way more successfull than Appetite in Europe.

Though they were obviously a cut above, that's definately the case stateside. GNR are much more associated with the likes of The Crue and other Sunset Strip bands of the 80's than any other band/scene.

Im from Newfoundland Canada, and though I'm graduated, I still know lots of people in highschool.

I've definitely noticed an uprising in interest in GNR. I think it started before the Greatest Hits CD came out, and it was this interest that made GH sell so much. Then, GH got hype, and hype sells more CDs to new people, and now everyone likes GNR a little more. I remember 5 years ago, I knew people who couldn't name one song by the band. I'm glad that has changed.

As for the Van Halen and Motley Crue comparison... I dont know anyone who listens to these bands.... GNR are definitely not lumped in that category. Van Halen are regarded as classic rock, whereas no one knows any Motley Crue stuff and they're just laughed at as a bad hair metal band. I know thats not true, but its the general feeling around here.

For some reason... GNR are held in the same respect as Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin

i'm 25 and have been into gn'r since use your illusion, being that i was 11 when that came out my first chance of seeing them live was 2002's short lived tour when they played london arena (rip).
anyway, i can imagine it being a whole lot harder to get tickets if they toured now compared to only 3 years ago!

20 year old sophomore in college.  I got hooked on Guns way back in 6th grade, so i guess what was 96-97?   Becoming a fan at that period of the band is kind of tough because all I had to go off of was the music.  I am a obsessed with live music so at that point of course i couldn't see them live.  It's hard to go along with either side of the whole stupid argument "old guns" vs "new guns" because both bands are musically amazing.  On the one hand if you look at the band now and see that axl is the only origional member and dizzy being the only one still around from the older line-up then of course older fans can get pissed off and debate that this new incarnation is not guns n roses.  But if you look at the fall out of the band you can see that it fell apart one piece at a time.  It was axl's vision to keep gnr at the top of the rock n roll world when the new wave of grunge and alternative rock came about.  By one member leaving and axl finding a replacement it was still guns n roses, just with another guy filling in.  But as the years went by more people left and more people had to be replaced, essentially leaving an entire new core of guys wanting to keep the gnr name atop the music world.  I saw them in cleveland during the 2002 tour and I have to say that concert was one of the most energetic concerts I have ever been to.  The arena was only half full but it was definately one of the loudest crowds at any concert I've been to.  The new band has an excellent chemistry and each member brings a different music background to the stage, which makes for an awesome performance.  As anyone else here in the forum I cannot wait for CD not only because we have been waiting for it for so long, (obviously some of us longer than others), but this album will be really unique in the fact that  you have all these new members coming from different musical backgrounds coming together to rebuild one of the greatest rock n roll bands of all time.  Axl said it best after the VMA performance in 02 when he said it's never been done like this before.  But I am confident that CD will come out sooner or later, and when it does that we will not be disapointed. :peace:

I'm 16 and I just started college, and I have to say I'm amazed at the number of GNR shirts around. One guy was even wearing an Axl shirt which was pretty damn cool.

Unfortunately I am oneof the GH generation. When I was 11 my dad offered to buy me this album called "Appetite For Destruction". I was still young and naiive, so I told him I'd rather have Aenima by Tool...

Still, I was browsing a site one day and I saw GH scheduled for an April release, and from the GNR songs I had heard I knew I'd like them. And that's when it all began.

Are they popular at my college? In terms of a rock band, yes. Obviously rock is in the minority in England, but due to heavy airplay from media such as Kerrang! (there's only so many times you can hear someone say they love GNR and have only heard November Rain before you scream) and, yes, the greatest Hits, I'd say they are relatively popular. However, me and my cousin are the onlypeople I know who own more than the Greatest Hits.

As for VH and Crue...no. I've never met anyone under 30 who likes them.

im only 12 and have been a fan for afew months so im probably the youngest one here. I feel like i have been a GNR fan for years i own like 6 cds a book and a t shirt and poeple at my school are green day lovers and GNR isnt really popular in my school its like me and 4 other people out of 300 that like guns and roses. i just want to say i might not have been there last year but im here this year and i think AXL ROSE IS THE BEST SINGER IN THE WORLD ROCK ON MAN!!!!!!

I love the fact you pointed out that you were Asian...phew...some asains know how to rock (and I salute you....Sorry all  my friends in school here are asain...incl' my roomate)
Oh, and your comments made me smile...thanks kid!

It almost brings a tear to my eye....I wish I could experience falling in love with GnR in my youth,,,you rock on dude : ok:

In the original post, I asked if new GN'R fans liked Crue and VH because they are from roughly the same era. I personally feel GN'R and VH are a cut above the Crue.

I also think that, contrary to popular conception, a lot of people like both Nirvana and GN'R. Maybe not the fringe nuts on either side, but casual rock fans like both. It's not 1996 anymore.

I think motley crue is fucking awesome and they put on a damn good show.. Crue is about 81 on with albums, vh about 77-78  (i forget when van halen-van halen ).. I would give the edge to VH during the david le roth era, but montley is ten times better during the sammy haggar era..

Everyone loves evh and they should, but mick mars is very underrrated on lead guitar..

All we know is someone is loving the new crue shows because they are selling out all the venues.. They are the 5th highest grossing band this year in concert sales..

You know what's funny? I saw the Crue in '97 and the place was half empty, maybe 7000 fans showed. But in March, it was almost a sellout, like 17,000. Go figure.

simple.. Because the fans were looking down on the crue then.. Same reason no one cared for sftd, omg live era, or scom off the big daddy soundtrack,.. manson rage limp tail end of grunge were still looking at these rock icons as carry over from the hair metal era.. 1994 to about 99 was no great time for bands from the 80's to make a comeback.. The same people who were like crue or gnr were 80's cheese or hair bands in the mid to late 90's are looking at them as legends and the trend is classic rock now//

Grunge was dead by '95. SFTD got some airplay, I still here it now and again.

but you're missing my point..  The mid to late 90's were from the grunge era to the kid rock limp korn manson era........ Those people frowned on bands from the 80's.. I have never heard sftd since 1994, and I have never heard omg since late 99 in nyc q104.3 a big clasic rock station, and K rock 92.3.. Gnr n motley crue were still looked at as the groups destroyed by grunge and metal cheese

Well, I'd argue '96-'99 was post grunge (Bush. 7 Mary 3) and '99-03 was Nu-Metal.

I think that although some people turned their backs on GN'R in the mid-to-late 90s, its cool to like Guns again.

they will accept them because afd is a must have album for any person getting into rock..  They have past the labels and become icons of classic rock

I'm 18 from Philadelphia (wish my mom would have let me go to the concert in 2002, although it was cancelled).

I can't recall exactly when I got into Guns N' Roses. I have always had a thing for November Rain and I guess when my taste for good music was still developing around 6th or 7th grade I got into them. I wasn't a hardcore fan then but just listened to the radio and whenever they would come on I would crank up the radio. Through the years I've become a much much bigger fan and now Im eagerly awaiting Chinese Democracy like everyone else here.

My friends (who's musical tastes range from 50 Cent to Zeppelin to Fall Out Boy) generally seem to like what they have heard from Guns N' Roses (I assume its basically whats on the Greatest Hits package). Allot of people I know did go out and buy the Greatest Hits CD. They love the sound of the older band and I guess they do not really know about the New version of Guns N' Roses. I always try to play the new songs or the videos I get offline when they are around and they are just like "Yeah thats cool but its not Slash and the others, Its just Axl".

I've also been noticing lots of kids sporting GNR t-shirts, hats, patches, etc, etc. Stores like Hot Topic sell GNR chapstick, socks, and underwear. Its nice to see lots of people wearing their clothes considering many of these kids probably don't know about the new band and may only like the harder rock sounding songs from the Appetitte era.

The truth of the matter is, all bands regardless of how popular they were are going to experience peaks and valleys in their career.

LMAO that was the funniest post I've read since I've come back.? :hihi:

I'm too old to answer this thread, but I've dated three 19 year old girls this year who loved GNR, not as a fan of the band so much, but just the music.

I've always been under the impression that the "younger generation" accepts them already.  Isn't the majority of posters on some of these sites younger kids?  Wasn't Axl voted #2 coolest "older person" by teenagers?   So, I don't think there will be a problem. 

Weird reading thru High Schooler's posts about GnR in 2005.  When I was 14, Sweet Child O Mine just came out and GnR were just starting to take the rock world over.  And everybody liked them, headbangers, stoners, jocks, guidos, preppies, nerds, poular, unpopular.  A group of guys at this lip sycnh contest and dressed up like GnR and "played" SCOM.  The whole fucking room went ape shit when "Slash" played the solo and "Axl" did his bit at the end.  The voting wasn't even close as GnR got this huge standing O.  For a fucking lip synch contest. 

Thinking back to then, it's a shame what became of the band the last 14 years or so.

IMHO new generation like shitty stuff like TOKYO HOTEL ( :hihi:),GREEN SUCK DAY ( :crying:)
MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE ( :drool: :-X :rant:),and etc,they accepte it ,but not fast as people back in the days.

I'm 17 years old. I am obsessed with GNR.

Ask any of my friends who my favorite band is and they will say GNR. I have done my share of promotion for the band down here on Cape Cod, lmao.

Anyways, most of the kids in my generation have no good taste for music. Most kids like that queer ass rap shit. AH! I can't stand that shit!!!!

Anyways, to answer your question. Some of us will, and some of us won't.

NICK

 I teach guitar in a small northern Minnesota town. I'm 29 years old and have been into GnR since the late 80s.? Aside from my little brother (age 17) and my second cousin (age 15). Nobody gives a crap about hereing GnR in their age group other hearing one of us noodle the opening from SCOM.
And I'm willing to bet that isnt even true admiration for GnR. The reaction is probably based on the fact that these kid's are seeing someone play live guitar in the first place :drool:
? I think Axl is gonna have to go for that duet with Eminem.? Half (or over) of the teens buying music today would look at the back photo of one of my favorite records like AFD and say "What a bunch of fags".
? The danger side of west coast rock and the passions of Slash's solos would be totally lost on younger folks today.? It's going to take Axl a lot of trendy wheeling and dealing to pull off massive success with CD.? I'm not saying that he won't be able to do it. Just at what cost.? The new GnR lineup will alienate a lot of diehards from "back in the day".? Any great amount of success that the new GnR has will be short lived compared to the original line-up.? Sad but true.
? I wish Axl would call this new GnR line up "AXL ROSE"!
Imagine Black Sabbath without Toni Iommi. Yuck....LOL

ps. Ya know what........? A long time ago back in 1973.? There was a faction of Bruce Lee disciples who believed he didnt die but instead went into a 10 year hiatus.? That's what this waitin' on Chinese Democracy reminds me of...lol.? I hope it's worth it!

Grab a cold drink people, cuz I'm having a flashback.  (By the way, I'm from Los Angeles and I'm 17)

The First Time I heard Guns N' Roses was at Dodger Stadium.  The closer (Eric Gagne) has Welcome To The Jungle as his entrance song.  Now by all means, he's a terrific pitcher, but when that song goes on, people go crazy.  I liked the song a whole lot, and I downloaded it.  I didn't know anything about the band, but I liked the song.

A few weeks later, I was going through my cousins CD collection (he's 29) and I found AFD.  I looked at the back and saw the guys, and the first song was WTTJ.  AWESOME!  So I borrowed the CD, and my oh my, that first time listening to the album was amazing.  By the way, this is in 2005, and I didn't even know about GH.  I just listened to AFD over and over.  When I returned AFD, I saw that there was another GN'R album, UYI2.  So I listened and loved it.  From that point forward, there was no looking back.  I bought all their CD's, DVD's.  I converted my best friend, who used to listen to that alternative junk they have on the radio these days and he thought it was real rock.  I started wearing GN'R shirts to school, and people were interested. 

One day in class this semester, we had a substitute.  The sub was laid back and all.  So I popped in Welcome To The Videos.  My classmates went wild!  They just wanted more and more.  And these are your high school kids who listen to the new crap.  Guns N' Roses is sweeping my school like a wave, and the gunners who were afraid to show their true colors are out of their shell in a way, because the ones who like gangster rap and punk and that stuff, their still the same, but the cats in the neutral corner seem to have shifted to the good side.  I'm sure the other kids who just followed the lead are just doing it to be cool, but heck, I'm glad that GN'R is cool again.

P.S. All the Nirvana people just "disappeared."  :peace:

id say the crue would be more popular cause of there reunion tour. van halen havent done anything VH III so i dont think many of todays youth know them. i dont know about GNR. i think everyone would at least have heard paradise city, SCOM or november rain in there life wether tthey liked it or not. bon jovi and metallica are 2 80s rock acts that have remained really popular. if u call bon jovi rock, i do.

I'm 20 and i have been a fan for as long as i can rember mostly b/c of my dad always playing AFD and mymy mom always getting pissed when we sat around and cranked One In A Million :yes:

here in middle america most kids do what Hot Topic tells them to......new Gnr merch blankets,t-shits,stickers,patches, and bands like Avenged 7fold wear the swag as well 

so fans are around but  its all hot topic bullshit but hell its fans

well     i gave a friend of mine some songs from gnr, mostly old ones + oh my god. when i visited him after a while he said the song he liked most was oh my god....... :beer:

For my senior high school year book (2003), we voted on our favorite bands...GN'R came in 3rd!  Bon Jovi came in 2nd, and I'm ashamed to say who came in 1st.  I honestly think there are a lot of young people out there who like GN'R.  Most aren't as obsessed as us, but there is a decent young fanbase out there.

so true god mcr sucks so bad, and greenday keep playing the same shit in a new dressing over and over,, Their lead singer sounds the same on every song.. I can give them credit that they are good live and they made a good song in wake me up when sept ends along with a heart felt vid.. Still though they are not some rock gods as they are portrayed...

shit like new found glory or yellow card stays big, how I'll never know.. One theory for me si tese guys look like the kids they are catering to.. Back in the day band's members seemed like adults,.. Todays bands look like the kids..

I'd say the same.  :beer:

It's about taste...

Well here in Ireland, my brother(16) and his friends and other people younger than me are all into rap and some with the more diverse music collections respect GNR but arent fans. My brother actually said to me one day "turn that shit off" in response to me playing Appetite. So NO to the original question.
   

Well, it depends who you ask with that man, I'm 16 and from Ireland just like your bro, and I absolutely adore GnR, it's just to do with taste.

When the media starts the hype for the new album the kids will be brainwashed into liking GnR.  That is how the music industry works.  Then the bandwagon effect will take place.

I'm not so sure; in this case there may be as much bad press as good, maybe more...

Well i suppose it is but the young people i know(my brothers and my friends) dont like them.Where in Ireland you from ?
 

not at all.  they are many young gun fans at my school.  those who aren't may be converted (the emo kids who already like their sad songs).  i'd say Axl and the guys will have what it takes  : ok:

Dublin, and it's not is if I don't see any people my age liking shit music either, all I'm sayin is you just need to drag the waters a bit.

Oh wrong part of the country lad, try a bit further south in the peoplesrepublic youngfella.

At this stage this question is irrelevant, as we have no idea of the quality or style of the songs, wether Axl looks even worse than he did last time (eg, weird eyebrows, semi out of shape and braids that unfort just dont work on a ginger haired guy).

So IMO if the songs rock hard, Axl looks like he did at Rio (though in shape), the kids will def embrace it.

At this stage the relevant question is , will the CD come out, and  for one have lost hope.

If GNR comes out the way that they did in 2002, young fans will be mocking them for years to come, regardless of the quality of the music. We may like the nu stuff, but it will barely scratch platinum.
If Axl is anything half as cool as he was when he was 25 years old, he'll reclaim part of his legacy and I believe that this is the most we can hope for at this point.

MNR

Lads just had the best thing i heard for a long time. This guy is about 12 at the most 14, and his mother is a friend of the family and all that. Anyway was watching 7 days in rio and he walked past the pc and said "ah guns n roses." This was without even seeing the band members or axl or slash. Was amazed i had to ask him again. He said he has appetite and liked GNR. So with all the christmas spirit round the place. The new generation will like GNR.



Anyway Merry christmas to all on the board from Ireland.     

I'm turning 14 next month and I know for sure that the only people that will accept Guns outta the younger generations are those who despise new music and pot-heads (they have a knack for playing guitar and liking older bands). I just happen to hate new music and play guitar. it's all kind of the same though. If you hate newmusic your probably play guitar and if you play guitar there is a 50/50 chance you are a pot-head and pot-heads hate new music. round and round it goes. MTV won't help as much as radio though. it doesnt get as much exposure as you'd think.

If it's a good album, younger people will dig it. I see kids with VR and GN'R shirts nowadays.

In the end though, who cares what a bunch of dorky wannabe pimply-faced poser dorks think anyway. (yes, I was once like you too!)

I think so.  Both my brothers love GNR.  One is 16 and the other is 9.  My 16 year old bro says that he sees people in his school wear the shirts and belt buckles.  That is semi promising.  Though it could be a trend.  Atleast they know of GNR.  Plus, I think rock n roll is on the rise.

Damn, my cover is blown.. :hihi:

Although I play bass not guitar and have been a GnR fan for ages.

Well, I don't know if Guns will be appreciated by the younger generation like we did, but the younger generation certainly know about them.
On Halloween my 15 year old nephew asked me if I knew of Guns N' Roses. When I rolled around in the gutter laughing at him he said (and I quote) "No, the GROUP!" Like I didn't know!
Then for Christmas he got a Guns N' Roses T-shirt (lucky SOB) I begged him for it and told him I have loved Guns N' Roses longer than he's been alive. He still took the shirt.? :'(
Even thought I don't think Axl thinks GNR is relevent today I think he's wrong.

Short of Axl completly coming around and losing the '02 look, GN'R will NEVER be as popular as the old band. Thats just a for sure. They could definitly BE better but.. theyre just way past being "popular" which, isn't a bad thing.

I still think they could sell alot of records thought.. and that Chinese Democracy will rule.