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Title: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: younggunner on February 18, 2006, 12:40:15 AM
TWat is leaving me speechless but these leaks are making me sad...i want the material as bad as any1 but I wanted that release day to be special...if the leaking stop with TWAT I can live with it...anymore....idk...ill be dissapointed...this has to be killing Axl


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Dont Try Me on February 18, 2006, 12:40:46 AM
indeed


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: NickNasty on February 18, 2006, 12:41:37 AM
yeah, the novelty is wearing off-i pray axl knows that a backlash by him is not the right answer. time just to move on and release this motha.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: colma on February 18, 2006, 12:42:16 AM
...this has to be killing Axl

I don't think it's safe to assume anything at this point.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Kaybee on February 18, 2006, 12:42:21 AM
There are good points and bad points. It's creating a buzz and he's getting a lot of attention, but you're right, he's probably royally pissed that all these leaks are occuring. Hopefully it speeds up the release date of Chinese Democracy though.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Naupis on February 18, 2006, 12:44:46 AM
Every album leaks before it comes out. It comes with the territory in a digital age.

There is more determination to leak this than most albums though given the absurdity of the length of time fans have had to wait. You will be hard pressed to find many people who feel sorry for Axl given he has shown little consideration for GNR fans along the way.

Once again he is faced with a fork in the road. He can capitalize on this leak, or go back in his hut and hide. If he is smart he will try and use this to his advantage for once.

The leaks will keep coming though, whether he likes it or not. So instead of sitting around feeling sorry for himself and ?stewing about it, he should make the best he can of them.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Kaybee on February 18, 2006, 12:45:38 AM
he should make the best he can of them.

Exactly.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Axl4Prez2004 on February 18, 2006, 12:46:01 AM
TWat is leaving me speechless but these leaks are making me sad...i want the material as bad as any1 but I wanted that release day to be special...if the leaking stop with TWAT I can live with it...anymore....idk...ill be dissapointed...this has to be killing Axl

Seriously, younggunner, don't be disappointed, I personally believe it's part of the plan. ?Part of my reasoning includes the recent HTGTH servers being moved just ahead of this craziness. ?Were they preparing for it in a way??? ? As you know, I've posted alot on how I thought CD would be great. ?The material obviously has surpassed those lofty expectations. ?It's amazing. ?Demos are no prob. ?If real tracks leak, THEN he'd be going ape-shit!!!!!!!!!

Rock on, and have more vodka like me! ? ;D


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: younggunner on February 18, 2006, 12:46:40 AM
I can live with the leaks if their is an official release date on the horizon...

I think we should all expect soem kind of press release Monday


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: colma on February 18, 2006, 12:47:08 AM
Every album leaks before it comes out. It comes with the territory in a digital age.

There is more determination to leak this than most albums though given the absurdity of the length of time fans have had to wait. You will be hard pressed to find many people who feel sorry for Axl given he has shown little consideration for GNR fans along the way.

Once again he is faced with a fork in the road. He can capitalize on this leak, or go back in his hut and hide. If he is smart he will try and use this to his advantage for once.

The leaks will keep coming though, whether he likes it or not. So instead of sitting around feeling sorry for himself and ?stewing about it, he should make the best he can of them.

Possibly one of the best statements I have read since the leaks began. ?It's probably already been said in some fashion before in 10 or more threads, but I couldn't agree with Naupis more. ?:beer:


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: gnrrock on February 18, 2006, 12:48:08 AM
You have over half the cd that you haven't heard yet. ?You should be happy and excited to hear more. ?If these songs are demos then the mastered ones will be great. ?Axl knows we love him. ?Its been years and years since a new song was released. ?And I don't really count Oh My God. ?Not hearing new GNR for over 10 years is almost like going without sex. ?Im still buying three copies.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 18, 2006, 12:50:38 AM
youngunner, why are you listening? You swore to not download anymore leaks?? Was the temptation too great? :hihi:


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: younggunner on February 18, 2006, 12:51:32 AM
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youngunner, why are you listening? You swore to not download anymore leaks?? Was the temptation too great?
please direct me to where i said i wouldnt dload them...i just said it sucks...of cours eim gonan listen but I envisioned a diff kind of listening day


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Sukie on February 18, 2006, 12:55:57 AM
TWat is leaving me speechless but these leaks are making me sad...i want the material as bad as any1 but I wanted that release day to be special...if the leaking stop with TWAT I can live with it...anymore....idk...ill be dissapointed...this has to be killing Axl

Seriously, younggunner, don't be disappointed, I personally believe it's part of the plan. ?Part of my reasoning includes the recent HTGTH servers being moved just ahead of this craziness. ?Were they preparing for it in a way??? ? As you know, I've posted alot on how I thought CD would be great. ?The material obviously has surpassed those lofty expectations. ?It's amazing. ?Demos are no prob. ?If real tracks leak, THEN he'd be going ape-shit!!!!!!!!!

Rock on, and have more vodka like me! ? ;D

The board hasn't moved as of yet. 

Look, here's what happened.

The site was down all weekend, we re-opened and then we closed the board because we're moving. Since nothing is happening regarding the move at the moment, I re-opened again.

In other words, the move didn't happen yet.



/jarmo


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: killingvector on February 18, 2006, 01:00:03 AM
Something is happening. Either a malcontent or an imp, which I think is more likely.

Leaking whole songs isn't usually the way to get fans ready for an announcement.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 18, 2006, 01:04:22 AM
WHere the fock is Jarmo?


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: axlsalinger on February 18, 2006, 01:46:22 AM
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WHere the fock is Jarmo?

They say the board hasn't moved yet, but it is an awfully strange coincidence that it's holding up quite nicely with all the increased traffic!

Younggunner, I hear ya. When the first 2 tracks leaked, I was very happy they did, as they are fantastic. I sort of disagreed with the people who didn't want any more to leak. I haven't heard TWAT yet, but I can't wait to do so. That being said, I don't mind if the leaks stop after this. In fact, I want them to stop.

Hopefully this is all part of the plan. If an album is coming in March, this is a pretty smart and unique way of jump-starting the hype. I can see Axl laughing his ass off. Then again, I can see Axl being very pissed off about this.

One last point: if Axl had just left behind one of his cd's at a strip club to be leaked, we WOULD NOT be hearing demos. Food for thought.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: snow white on February 18, 2006, 01:57:35 AM
Well I'm sad because I haven't been online all day and missed TWAT.

I guess that solves my moral dilemma for me.

Let's hope Axl uses this to his advantage


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: SLCPUNK on February 18, 2006, 02:00:28 AM
yeah, the novelty is wearing off-i pray axl knows that a backlash by him is not the right answer. time just to move on and release this motha.


I agree..

Drop the album!


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: oneway23 on February 18, 2006, 02:04:52 AM
I don't want to be the harbinger of negativity here, but I can't escape the sneaking suspicion that the reaction will counteract everything we are now anticipating, or more accurately expecting at this point..I pray Axl does not retreat here...Throw a mastered version of IRS on ITunes, turn a perceived negative into a promotional generator


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: jarmo on February 18, 2006, 08:32:12 AM
They say the board hasn't moved yet, but it is an awfully strange coincidence that it's holding up quite nicely with all the increased traffic!

So the truth isn't good enough or you?




/jarmo


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Will on February 18, 2006, 08:35:51 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like these are leaks from the actual album. These are just demos, relax everybody. The release day will still be special, because I'm confident the final versions will be a helluva lot more polished than these demos. Don't feel down people, this a great moment to be a GN'R fan!

The new material is great, and this is just a preview of what's forthcoming. Remember that. A preview. Not the actual thing.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: makane on February 18, 2006, 08:38:50 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. It's not like these are leaks from the actual album. These are just demos, relax everybody. The release day will still be special, because I'm confident the final versions will be a helluva lot more polished than these demos. Don't feel down people, this a great moment to be a GN'R fan!

The new material is great, and this is just a preview of what's forthcoming. Remember that. A preview. Not the actual thing.
:peace:
Everything can change, personally I believe the album isn't even called Chinese Democracy anymore.


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on February 18, 2006, 12:46:18 PM
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youngunner, why are you listening? You swore to not download anymore leaks?? Was the temptation too great?
please direct me to where i said i wouldnt dload them...i just said it sucks...of cours eim gonan listen but I envisioned a diff kind of listening day

I'm sensing that some fans are regretting listening because of similar reasons...   

It's like you and a friend are developing a relationship... one that's heading towards romantic involvement... but he/she have shit going on in their life and they aren't yet READY to go for it....  And say one day the shit that's going on in his/her life gets to them a bit much and they are particularly vunerable and instead of being the supportive friend that you know you should be you take advantage of the situation and finally 'have your way' with him/her... sure you'd have the initial euphoria of the event... but then you wake up feeling wierd...  knowing that this isn't the way you wanted it... that you and him/her deserved better.

know what I mean...

I know both I and the album, Axl, the band deserve better.  : ok:






Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: Mr.Intensity on February 18, 2006, 12:53:04 PM
Don't be sad man, we are all gonna buy the album when it comes out, and the finished product is even going to be better. We waited long enough, a little sneak peek isn't gonna harm no one. :peace:


Title: Re: I dont know if Im happy or sad
Post by: jameslofton29 on February 18, 2006, 12:55:25 PM
Hey nice surprise! Great to see you back Eva! :smoking: : ok: :beer: