Here Today... Gone To Hell!

If I remember corectly (and I could be wrong) but didn't Aerosmiths GH albums and Permenet Vacation come out within a year of each other?

Maybe guns is just copying that idea?

 :peace:


Edit: This is the thread for discussions about the Greatest Hits. The protests have their own thread (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=10236). /jarmo

Its a stupid idea because it has nothing to do with the new lineup. If the company wants the public to starttaking htis band seriously it has to be with the new material. Otherwise they just dig themselves a deeper hole.

Release the Gh album down the road when this new lineup is done. Then we can have all the old classics and if there are new classics, them as well on 1 or 2 cds. Thats a lot better if you ask me

Seems like GNR....cough cough....have been pulling something for a few yrs now.

Yeh Im in a sarcastic mood GNR wise today, but ya notice even the former AXL lovers seem to sound like the 'haters' that they attacked a yr or so ago....I think we are sick of this BS...

A real band hang out together, and write music then record it then tour on it.

This band seem like the fucking spice girls under the control of an obsessive meglomaniac with a point to prove....just he cant prove his point. So either he puts up and shows his hand or he fucking apologises to the old band, cos 10 yrs from now are we all gonna be here saying that Axl was right in moving the band forward????

I was on his side.

Not anymore.

Yawn.

i seem to remember readin several interviews with tommy last year about the creative process the new band has undergone to write songs and he went to great length to emphasise the point that they all get together and each one gets their own input.

But you ignored that and made up your mind based on, well, nothing.

If it was still the origional lineup then this would be a good idea, but the record company should be trying to promote the new band, and so if they are going to release anything it should be a live dvd from the last tour but that ain't gunna happen.

Well every day seems that the Greatest Hits in coming today a cover has been seen its a nice cover and good art work but I still think that we will see Chinese Democracy soon maybe its just the record company wants to make more money this year with both albums because they will pull in the money.

But if the greatest hits does come out will you be going to your nearest music store to buy it? Or like some one said on this board a couple of days maybe its a Chinese Democracy cover up which is a really cool idea.

hey davidrose, do you have a link to it?

Yeah its on the home page of this site on the headlines bit.

That doesn't make any sense. Geffen released permanent vacation in 1987, and Columbia (their former label at the time) released GEMS in 1988 I believe.
Regardless, it was two separate record labels doing two separate things.
Things should be far more organized in the GnR camp right now than they actually are. It sucks.

we saw that same cover advertised for GH album last november in some music store ad...

but as we know, it didn't mean that GH was released.

god, please make this album go away.

thanks for the link guys.

Maybe the greatest hits will be the end of an old chapter and the beginning of a new one??

that was supposed to be what Live Era was.

Oh Right. Well there must be some sort of strategy here. Such an album will remind MANY people of what GNR were all about.

But what I dont understand is why would they want to remind people of Slash Matt Duff etc?? If they see Slash in the artwork of the album and the next minute (when CD is released)the whole look of the band is completely changed.

Why remind people of the old GNR.???

Honestly, I think this is the end of GNR as we know it.  Look at were most bands go after releasing a GH album.  GH's are for bands with no where to go.  Plus, if this tracklisting is true, it has FIVE cover songs.   I'm affraid that the end is near.  The fat lady is warmning up and I got a fork in my hand.

 : ok: :hihi:

-PEACE-

What's a frok?

-F

Pardon me...I fat-fingered that post.  It is fixed now.  

Oh for goodness sake!
I'M THANKFUL FOR THIS! Its new news!  : ok:
I mean Sympathy For The Devil GNR style!!!
YEAH BABY!  8)

Me dad lurves that song!
I'll blast his Rolling Stones for the greatest band EVER!!!!!!!
GUNS N' ROSES

This album shows GNR at its best right!


God lighten up people!  :yes:
End of an old chapter beginning of a NEW chapter!
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah!  :peace:

GNR are Gunner bring the world to its feet!!!!!!!!
AXL RULES!
GNR RULES dudes!!!!!!!

Have a little pride please!
Axl's got this sussed- and if he don't, don't be mad and take a strop- cos we'll ALL be behind him and his new project!
Me for SURE!

Peace Out You C-r-a-z-y Dudies!!!  :P
Lurve Ya!

What I dont understand about this greatest hits CD is that Enstranged is not on it.  That was better hit then a lot of the songs on there.

Everything Aerosmith DOES comes with a shiny new Greatest Hits CD.

Aerosmith celebrates Steven Tyler tying his shoes this morning by giving the fans another Hits package!!  ::)

Greatest Hits ruin everything.

Aerosmith has like 10 Greatest hits now

everyone is looking at this all wrong, the greatest hits is an excellent idea

everyone on this board makes one enormous mistake, we all think cause our lives revolve around gnr that they are still this enormous entity which in fact they arent

greatest hits doesnt mean we arent getting c.d. in my opinion it means we are getting it

casual fans who have forgot the band need something to refresh their memory

how bout a greatest hits cd with the versions played by the new band, that would be awesome! and it would show that the new band can play the fuck out of the new songs etc and introduce people to the new band and leave them wanting more

also maybe it will light a fire under axl's ass to get shit finished

and the greatest hits isnt gonna make such an impact it will tarnish chinese democracy, its not likepeople are gonna get the greatest hits and then not buy c.d.
most people wont even give a shit about gnr


main point and ill shut up

if gnr have a greatest hits clause in their contract, its best to get it out of the way now before the new band starts making its mark, get the old band out of the way once and for all

it would suck to release a couple new cds and the new band get popular and then have to release a greatest hits and have to rehash the old band, that would tarnish the new band

since the new band hasnt done shit yet, this doesnt hurt them at all

great time great way to reintroduce the band, i think they shouldve released it sooner but oh well

so everyone cheer up its ok, its not the end! it may actually be the beginning!

Why wait until now?  Why not get it out of the way years ago.?

-F

The only problem I currently have w/ GH is that it is supposedly being done against Axl/The Band's wishes. I don't like that.

Tom Morello had the best idea ever: unionizing musicians. It could be possible that if that had been done 10 years ago, CD would have been seen earlier.

Then again, it (more than likley)may not have anything to do with that type of issue at all.

At first I thought this thread had to do with Aerosmith re-recording their Nine Lives album. Joey Kramer couldn't record due to some personal problems, the death of his father I believe was one of them, so they recorded the album with a different guy (wish I could remember his name). After hearing the final mix, they decided it didn't sound very good without Kramer and waited until he could be there to record his parts, then he released the album. I thought you were getting at the old members coming back to GNR because the new material didn't sound like GNR............

anyway, but the Greatest Hits stuff with Aerosmith. Columbia released an album called Classics Live! On Aerosmith. Aerosmith had zero input on this album and many of the tracks had parts redone by Rick Dufay (I think, it was him, may have been Jimmy Crespo). This pissed Aerosmith off to no end. Just before the release of Permanent Vacation, Aerosmith released Classics Live 2!. It featured different songs than, Live!, but Aerosmith had control over this release. It was planned to be released before PV and Permanent Vacation was supposed to just blow the Live! 2 release out of the water, which it did.

Aerosmith's Gems album, which came out after the release of PV isn't a Greatest Hits album, rather, a "Songs Aerosmith Considers Great Hits album".

Part of the reason Aerosmith has so many greatest hits out is because since 1994 the band gained control of their master tapes. They became the first band ever to get their masters back after a certain period of time. In 1974, they got a raise in their royalities and their manager said to the record company, "Listen, how about after 20 years you give us the masters? It will be 1994, Aerosmith won't exist anymore, it's not gonna matter." Columbia said, "Yeah, you're right!! And signed the deal"

So, um, that's whats up with Aerosmith and Greatest Hits...

I thought of the possibility that is was being released to stir interest in CD but now I think it's unlikely because it doesn't seem like a lot of effort is going into this GH. It would make sense if they released a new song or even a re-make of an old one, but these are just the same  songs we hear on the radio on an average day. If these songs haven't gotten the average joe into the band before, what is going to make them get into the band now? What is going to make them take interest in a completely new band? I also don't think Axl would  be so against if it was to help out CD. I guess we will just have to wait and see how the promotion is handled.

Although I agree, it's not as bad of an idea as most people think, but I think at this point everyone feels if they are gonna release anything it better be CD.

Great idea,lookind at Greatest hits in a pozitive way. And you may be right.  GH will make people remember there's a little band out there named Guns N' Roses

No, a Greatest Hits is a slap in the face to all the fans who've waited years and years for a release of Chinese Democracy.  We haven't been waiting around for a fucking Greatest Hits disc, and we don't want one.

No, it is a STUPID idea.  Whether this is Guns N' Roses or not, Greatest Hits are just a money-grubbing scheme by record companies.  It's my personal opinon that a "Best of" CD should only come around when a band has thrown in the towel.

Why not wait until GN'R releases a bunch of new music and then put out a Greatest Hits when they actually HAVE enough hits to not include 5 cover songs (Honestly, the average joe doesn't even know that GN'R covered Sympathy For The Devil).  Guns N' Roses doesn't have enough material to have a GH.

Fuck, you can go buy AFD, and the Illusions for like 25 bucks!

If the record company was smart, they would've released that the GH CD after the VMAs.  That way, atleast the tour would've supported a product.

I think it's a horrible idea.  If they theory of "remembering a band named Guns N' Roses" it's remembering Axl, Duff, Slash, Izzy/Gilby, Matt/Steven and not the new band Dizzy not Axl, Tommy, Bucket, Robin, Fortus, Brain, Dizzy and Pittman.

You people act like the GH CD will end the world. You all seem to ignore an important point that was made...

The GH album will get the casual Gunners who arent up to date on the new band and crap and the GH will get the name back into the public view.. Then CD gets released and the sales for that do better and crap..

I think its the perfect time cause I am thinking that this is a sign that CD might be hitting stores in the next months or so and if not I can wait and live my life with no problems.

I agree, since they pretty much played the "Hits" in the Chinese Democracy Tour 2002.

Whether it's a good idea or a bad idea may not
 really matter. It's a "featured release" on CDUniverse's Geffen page:

http://www.cduniverse.com/sresult.asp?style=music&cart=176855634&HT_SEARCH=XLABEL&HT_SEARCH_INFO=Geffen+Records

Stop trying to put a positive spin on this gh release. Although its not the end of the world, its not a positive for this band.

I see it liek this:
 if the company is doing this for promotional reasons for cd, then its the dumbest thing ive ever seen. This gh cd has nothing to do with the new lineup. Lets say the gh doesnt sell jack shit{wich it wont,hopefully}, then the company could go to gnr and say, see you know what people dont care about gnr that much anymore we arent gonna give u a full blown promotional puch for cd. Then what? more fukin delays because gnr would get pissed and try to go somewhere else.

The negativity will continue from the public with this release. They will say where the fuck is that annoying chinese democracy. Instead gnr releases old material what a joke etc. The new band cant win. case closed.

the only way they win is if they get on the same page with the company and go ahead with cd and a full blown promotion push for cd. other than that its just getting worse.

If u think thats bad check Alice Coopers discography, atleast 5 greatest hits have been released in the last 10 years.....

At the moment i am not for or against a greatest hits - it could be a money making scam, but it could also be CD promotion....

In 6 months maybe we will have an answer.

Yeah, it strikes me odd that theyve decided to include possibly the most obscure officially released GNR song this side of "Oh My God".

In fact, much of that tracklisting is  ???  Two songs from The Spaghetti Incident??  On a greatest hits?  No "Estranged"?  

Im sure if they would just put out the new album, there wouldnt be a Greatest Hits.  I cant say I blame the record company...13 years since an original release and theyre still waiting for the follow-up?  I dont blame them at all.

Thats what I mean Classics Live,sorry it was my first Aerosmith album and I almost always refeer to it as GH.
Sorry if I caused any confusion :peace:

Something being released with the Guns N' Roses name on it? :o  wholy shit lol.  I CAN'T FUCKIN WAIT, i don't know about you, but i will buy this thing first fucking day its out.  this is sweet.  I think it's a good idea too, like others have said it could be like a new chapter, leaving the bad chapter behind that had a cancelled fucking tour.  Hope it is the start of something new with this fucking band.   ;D

OK.....all these ramblings about this new Ghits so i may as well join in... ;D
I think that they should have released this type if greatest hits with STUDIO versions of the songs rather than Live ERA.....and Years ago...
LIVE ERA was cool with the good cover and booklet, new videos and stuff but i never EVER saw them on Tv in Australia...maybe one once...those 2 clips should have been on the WTTvids DVD but thats another issue..
Live Era ....well ive only listened to the whole thing a few times.....A Greatest hits i would buy in a second and play it alot....But the timing is BAD for CD....

just because axl owns the GUNs N ROSES name does not mean slash duff matt and izzy do not make money on sales of the greatest hits, nor does this mean they will not benefit from the name GNR being out there.  Just remeber every time you hear the name Velvet Revolver the name former Guns n roses members comes up.  The two will always be attatched.  Axl and ( slash Duff and matt) might not be friends any more or have any plans of playing together any time soon or even ever but I am sure after 8 years they could atleast have their managers speak and dicuss releasing a GH album to help both of their up and coming albums.  remember slash and co. have really done much in the past eight years worth talking about either.  I think the fight between them is not nearly as serious as people think, ego's and different musical direction broke the band up just as hundreds of other bands have.  Axl might have done alot to to have any chance of a reunion, but I am sure the two sides had some say in the release.      

Everyone is freaking out about the greatest hits delaying CD.....well, back in 1994 Bon Jovi released a greatest hits package called Crossroads...well a few months later they released a new cd called These Days...so Guns n Roses releasing a greatest hits cd does not mean that Chinese Democracy will not be released BUT::::::

I remember back in 1999 when the album was going to be titled 2000 Intentions....which was Axl's way of saying he had every "intention" of releasing the cd but probably was not going to. Then he changed the name to Chinese Democracy..which we know that there is no Democracy...so that is Axl's way of saying that there is no CD. So...that brings us back to the present. It looks as though Axl has pulled a fast one on all of us...teased us for years with anticipation of a new cd...when in all actuality...we get Greatest Hits.

Argue with me if you would like to...but this is the most sensible explanation that anyone on this board has come up with. There is no album....there never will be....let us just enjoy the joke Axl has played on his hundreds of adoring fans on these boards, and let's enjoy Greatest Hits. The wait was worth it!!!!

if that is axl's way to say "we dont get new material" then why a new band? why new songs? why thour? why? to promote the Greatest Hits album?  :hihi:

Bullshit

So... all these well respected musicians, and in some cases, well known, such as the bandmembers, Brian May, Moby, etc just decided to play along and claim they heard really good material to help Axl sell more copies of his Greatest Hits album.  Right....  very sensible.  ;)

This maybe the dumbest thing I've ever read on these boards...

Wow...you guys are harsh...yet you guys can not supply one ounce of "official proof" that Chinese Democracy exists...except for people who have heard "recordings" of new songs that very well could be just good ol jam session Axl has with hired musicians for himself to enjoy. Oh, and countless promises by Dizzy......other than that there is no proof...no cover art...no release schedule...no "physical proof"...just hear-say......Some of you guys need a reality check.

jesus go back and smoke some more of what youve been smoking ive read some shit on this board but this tops them all even the fake rumors make more sense then what youve just wrote  :rant: :rant: ??? ::)

I guess the brutal truth and reality is hard for some of you guys to comprehend. I guess Im writing to a bunch of dolts. I apologize to those who have a warped sense of reality when it comes down to Axl and his so-called Chinese Democracy.Maybe this will make more sense.....

There will be no song from GnR on the Spiderman 2 soundtrack
There will be no song on Kill Bill Vol 2 soundtrack
There will be no European tour this year
There will be no Chinese Democracy this year or any other year

There will be a Greatest Hits album due in March

That should clear it up for you guys.

Wasn't 2000 Intentions made up by a fan for the express purpose of seeing how far a rumor would go?

I'm sorry and where did you prove to us there is no album? Listen up Adler, go back to you crappy cover band, and stop spamming these boards. No one likes you or your cock sucking ways! You where good enough for one album back in the day, now stop trying to kill our dreams! :rofl:

I hope your wrong!  But I like your style.

-F

No, 2000 Intentions was named by Axl himself in the Rolling Stone interview held in 1999....5 years ago..right around the time the classic "Oh My God" was released.

I do have proof there is no album...go to your local record store, and check under the Guns n Roses section...there is a good chance that there is no Chinese Democracy there.

Oh, and calling me Adler is a good one, it really is...but in all actuality, Adler has been more productive than Axl has this past year. Suck on that....biznatch.

there's a lot of people with nothing to do...  :rant:

You call your explaination sensible?
That's ridiculous. I don't know where all your pent up anger comes from, but you should try and relax.. There's so many ways to dispute your theory I don't even know where to begin, and I won't even try. You think Axl is playing a joke on everyone? What for? You think Tommy Stinson and the rest of the guys have been on Axl's payroll for the past 2-4 years so he can fool people? You think he's had a recording studio booked on and off for nearly 5 years so he can record some jam sessions? Get a grip.  

Did I ever say I was angry? Im happy as a lark....so, I dont know how you came up with the fact that I was angry. And, correct me if I am wrong, but how do you know for sure that Tommy is on the payroll? Are you his accountant? Are you the one that hands out paychecks? And so what if Axl rents out studio time for himself to jam....there are actually quite a few musicians who do such a thing. So, until you or anyone else can come up with a valid explanation why ChDem has not been released, or why Axl hasnt peeped for over a year, then one is to assume that the album does not exist. Its simple, my dear.

first of all, who are to tell us about Guns N' Roses.  Are you their best friend or manager who is a Mr. know it all?  

Second of all, you don't know that GNR won't be on the soudtrack of Spiderman or Kill Bill.  Do you work for these movie studios or music companies?  No, I didn't think so.  

Third of all, you don't know if their will be a european tour or not.  Are you their tour manager?  No, your not.

Fourth of all, Chinese Democracy will be released and it will be released this year.  Are you an employee of Guns N' Roses?  I think you know the answer to that one

Fifth of all, GH looks like it will come out in March... wait, am I agreeing with you?   :confused:

Hopefully this will clear things up for you.   :rant:

Oh geeze....

So you believe the record company has been pumping money into a non-existent project all this time.  The new songs they premiered on the tour didn't exist either.  And all the musicians involved are just full of shit.

I don't know if Chinese Democracy will ever be released, but the material is there.  It just hasn't been released yet for one reason or another.

Assume what you will, I don't think you've convinced anyone of anything other than not to take you very seriously.  : ok:

That is the problem with most of you. The only people you take seriously are the ones that fill the boards with rumors.....which never come to be true. But when someone comes to the board and states the obvious, you guys jump down their throats and call them a liar or not take them seriously. The obvious is right before your eyes, and you would realize it, if you didnt jump on the rumor bandwagon. RUMORS IS WHAT KEPP GnR ALIVE...not Axl and his hired guns. And loretain, I appreciate you not taking me seriously, but look at reality kid. The fat lady sang a long time ago...and you can try and justify it any way you can...but at the end of the day...it's all the same...There Is No Chinese Democracy. And most of the facts everyone stated to me in this post have not been reliable. They are hear-say from people on this board who claim to know what is going on. Like:

Noone knows how much the label has given Axl for this record (If so...show the source)?

Where does it say that Tommy, Bucket, Brain, Robin still have a contract with Axl?

And the real question::

Where does it say that Chinese Democracy will be released?

Ask yourself these questions my friends...and the truth will be revealed.

Did your parents ever ask you to run away from home? : ok:

-PEACE-

First of all, don't assume everyone believes every rumor.  I think most of us are pretty hardened against them, and while rumors like the Spider-man 2 soundtrack thing seem cool, I think they're unlikely.  And, I think most people on the board (most active people anyway) would agree with me.  You aren't alone in that regard.

Anyway, I don't know what to tell you as far as the other stuff.  I think it's blatantly obvious and completely true that there is new material.  Whether it'll actually be released in an album called Chinese Democracy remains to be seem, but I think will, and I think it'll be soon.

You just started a thread claiming something doesn't exist (unless you mean the actual album itself, in that it's not in stores, in which case you didn't need to start a thread about it, we already know that) that quite obviously does, which is just as pointless and unneeded as another thread with another unprovable rumor.

That is the problem Loretian...just because you heard a few songs in concert, does not necessarily mean that there is a product. That is where most of you are confused. Hell, Ive written and performed songs with a band, but that does not mean that I have a product to disperse to the general population. And Im glad you have faith in Axl, and that he will deliver an album soon....but I have great confidence that you will be quite disappointed in the end. Like Axl once stated...Try waiting for Jesus...the payoff is much greater.

that is not true, we do not believe people who post rumors, unless they have a reliable source that they tell us.

no this is the way we usually treat these one post wonders who give us rumors and yes we treat people this way when they tell us something that is not true. which is what you are doing.   :rofl:

  no, what is keeping GNR alive is the fans and the music that they produced.  GNR will never die.   :rant:

no she didn't, there was never a fat lady involved in Guns N Roses music, there were a couple of backup singers but they were not fat :no:

and yours has been? :confused

your not my friend  :no:

Well, like I said before, it's not just the new songs in concerts, it's all the other musicians that have worked with Axl as well, in addition to all the band members.  I just don't believe that they'd all lie about it.  Whether all the songs have been turned into a product, like CD, I don't know, but if there material is there, then it's just the matter of them putting it together into a product and selling it.

Anyway, I am waiting for Jesus, but hopefully Chinese Democracy will keep me entertained in the meantime.

UK music website Dotmusic mention the GH album:

http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com/dyna/article.html?a=/040216/340/em2hx.html&e=l_news_dm (http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com/dyna/article.html?a=/040216/340/em2hx.html&e=l_news_dm)

Another news report:

http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2004/feb2004/20040216_gnr.html (http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2004/feb2004/20040216_gnr.html)

With all respect to you and your musical talents, comparing yourself and the songs you play to Axl Rose who is signed to a major label, is one of the most well-known singers in the world, claims to have an album called Chinese Democracy and plays a song live CALLED chinese democracy. Well, forgive me for being led to believe that it's true. I guess I'm an idiot.  :hihi:

ANOTHER news report, this time from NME (boo hiss!):

http://www.nme.com/news/107530.htm (http://www.nme.com/news/107530.htm)

Haha, this guy Breakdown is worse than most Axl zealots...

If you need any proof that CD does in fact exist in some form, aside from the obvious (quotes from countless collaborators), the fact that theyre still signed to a label says something.

But really, your theory is beyond ridiculous and not even worth discussing further.

Actually, I live in Minneapolis, have several musician friends and have met Tommy in the past few years on more than one occasion. Trust me, he's been on his payroll. He hasn't been recording with Axl for charity.
And you honestly believe that the record label has been paying Axl to JAM with friends for the past 6 years? It would be one thing if he was like Prince and owned his own recording studio and was just experimenting, but that's not the case.

www.undercover.com.au/news/2004/feb2004/20040216_gnr.html

Expect Old G'n'R Before New G'n'R

 Most Guns 'n' Roses fans have given up hope of ever seeing the 'Chinese Democracy' album. It is now more than five years overdue. However, there is a new Guns 'n' Roses album coming and it is a best of.

Universal Music have confirmed to Undercover News that the album to be titled 'Greatest Hits' by Guns 'n' Roses will be released in Australia on April 11.

Nothing from Chinese Democracy will be on the new record. Even 'Oh My God' from Arnie's 1999 flick 'End of Days' isn't featured but 'Sympathy for the Devil' from Tom Cruise's 'Interview With A Vampire' is.

The tracklisting for Guns 'n' Roses 'Greatest Hits' is:

1. Welcome To The Jungle (from Appetite for Destruction, 1987)
2. Live And Let Die (from Use Your Illusion 1, 1991)
3. Knockin' On Heaven's Door (from Use Your Illusion 2, 1991)
4. Sweet Child Of Mine (from Appetite for Destruction, 1987)
5. November Rain (from Use Your Illusion 1, 1991)
6. Patience (from G 'n' R Lies, 1989)
7. Paradise City (from Appetite for Destruction, 1987)
8. Civil War (from Use Your Illusion 2, 1991)
9. You Could Be Mine (from Use Your Illusion 2, 1991)
10. Don't Cry (original) (from Use Your Illusion 1, 1991)
11. Yesterdays (from Use Your Illusion 2, 1991)
12. Ain't It Fun (from The Spaghetti Incident, 1993)
13. Since I Don't Have You (from The Spaghetti Incident, 1993)
14. Sympathy For The Devil (from soundtrack, Interview With A Vampire, 1995)

By Paul Cashmere

Undercover Media Pty Ltd, February 16,2004

That is actually a piss poor track listing as-well.

i think you will find that they are all official single releases and if remember although you could by the single of estranged in england it was an import and i dont think it was officially released correct me if im wrong it needs nighttrain and mr brownstone though

That..just can't be legimate.
5 Covers?
Best of collection with mere 14 tracks and 5 of them are covers?!That has to be some kind of a world record.
....Not that a "best of GNR" cd would be even remotely interesting to any of us in the first place anyway.

like i said all the tracks are single releases so that means that 25% of GNR singles were covers and nobodys ever moaned about that before i personally will be buying this album like many of the diehards here i aint happy about it but it is part of an official release that needs to go in the collection

iIf they're going to release old stuff collections i would rather see best performances live shows ;) other than this poor thing...

i'm sure they're sitting on a lot of cool stuff, but the tokyo is already there so i guess the fuckers wont ever release anything else old stuff but that ::)

Fani zespolu Guns N'Roses nie chca skladanki jego najwiekszych hit?w. Ich zdaniem album ten nie zyskal aprobaty lidera kapeli - Axla Rose'a.


Zwolennicy grupy protestuja na poswieconym jej internetowym forum, gdyz; dob?r utwor?w na plyte zatytulowana roboczo "Greatest Hits" uwazajz za zly i zupelnie nie reprezentatywny dla calej tw?rczosci Guns N'Roses. Nie podoba sie im r?wniez, ze na krazek nie trafi zadna niepublikowana wczesniej kompozycja bandu. Zas za ciagle op?znienia w wydaniu premierowego longplaya "Chinese Democracy" obwiniaja koncern Universal Music - nie przyjmujac do wiadomosci, ze wytw?rnia wciaz czeka na nowy material formacji i nie z wlasnej winy przesuwa moment jego ukazania sie.

Przypomnijmy, ze na kompilacji przeboj?w Guns N'Roses znajda sie nastepujace piosenki: "Welcome To The Jungle", "Live And Let Die", "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", "Sweet Child O' Mine", "November Rain", "Patience", "Paradise City", "Civil War", "You Could Be Mine", "Don't Cry (Original Version)", "Yesterdays", "Ain't It Fun", "Since I Don't Have You" oraz "Sympathy For The Devil".

Album pojawi sie w sprzedazy 22 marca, choc byl juz spodziewany w listopadzie 2003 roku. O "Chinese Democracy" m?wi sie od osmiu lat.

source: http://muzyka.onet.pl/mr,871612,wiadomosci.html

ok, this seems to be about GH, but apart from that I don't understand anything...


/lastroots

It's writen about us, that we Guns and Roses fans dont want The greatest Hits release. Portal ONET is the Biggest and the best Portal in Poland.

Sorry for my english.

it's ok guys, im gonna translate, i took 5 years of polish.......oh wait , i did not.
i think they're talking about guns n roses, not sure .

Poltran Translation:

Bad hits  Guns N'Roses

They do not want fans of groups he (its; his; it) biggest hit Guns N'Roses składanki. This album has not gained they (their) opinion (sentence) approvement of leader of band -  Axl Rose.


Apologists of (followers of) groups protest on its (her) devoted internet forum, because they consider selection of work on plate (disc) titled bad working " " Greatest Hits and for whole creation completely not representative Guns N'Roses. It does not please memorial < they (their) > also, that composition will hit on round no unpublish earlier bandu. They accuse concern for continuous delays in edition (issue) first-night " " longplaya Chinese Democracy Universal Music for message (knowledge) - not accepting (catch on), that plant waiting for new material of formation still and moment of its (his) appearance removes without personal blame.


They let's remember,The tracklisting for Guns 'n' Roses 'Greatest Hits' is:
 " " Welcome The Jungle, " " Live And Let Die, he (it) " ' " Knockin Heaven's Door, about " ' " Sweet Child Mine, " " November Rain, " " Patience, " city " Paradise, " " Civil War, " " You Could Be Mine, " don ( ) " Cry Original Version, " " Yesterdays, " ain " It Fun, " Since and don " Have You and " " Sympathy For The Devil.

Album will appear in sale 22 march, though it was expected year in november 2003 already. Lat (summer; year) is said about from eight " " Chinese Democracy.

It's the same stuff that was at that Australian site.

They found out about our petition...

If it was a singles collection why is KOHD on there?

And were are The Garden and the Garden of Eden

It looks as if this tracklist was put together at random...........

Greatest Hits is something that a record compagny releases when all is over, like a "good bye". It is a good bye. Axl had many occasions to release it, Rio 3 for exemple. I still think that if the album were released close to the VMA 2002 with all the exitation and the surprise, it would have sold HUGELY. Even if the performance sucked, in fact something happened, people were really exited. I don't even think they listened to the performance when it happened, they just watched Axl with big eyes like "he is on stage, he is back!". look at their face, they were just blown away.....they were HAPPY.
But this is already THE PAST, more than 1 year and a half pasted, a non-tour, riots, and finally cancelled. Geffen has continued to inject money, but still no  album.
Here is what I think: GEFFEN seems fed-up with the whole thing. They have lost million and million $$$ with the whole thing for the last 10 years. FOR GEFFEN IT'S ENOUGHT. enought time, enought money, enought promizes, enought all. They want their money back and they want it NOW. That's why they expect to release the Greatest Hits album. More than an ultimatum, it would be a desaster, an humiliation for Axl and all the work he has done for about 10 years now.

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ENOUGHT with spelling enough wrong.

Whatever. Some bands have released several greatest hits albums while at their prime. The Who, Elton John, the list could go on and on.

There's no fucking way you can actually believe that.  "Greatest Hits" is something that a record company releases to make a quick buck and to fullfill contract obligations.  They should only exist as a "good-bye" to bands that had a LOT of hits and a LOT of albums.

This isn't the end of Gn'R... it's just another reason why we won't get CD any time "soon".  

BTW, Guns N' Roses doesn't deserve to have a Greatest Hits.  You can get their 3 CDs for maybe $5 more than buying a shiny new GH.  They don't have enough material, I don't know where some of you come up with this "Double Disc Greatest Hits" garbage.

Hi guys, first let me say hi as this is my first post here.
I finally decide to post here.

 Just want to let you know that a few minutes ago I heard a publicity for the GH CD on radioenergie in Montreal.  (www.radioenergie.com).

 This was a regular publicity, nothing great.  Just a voice talking about  the GNR GH track (same as on the net), released date (didn't catch it) and the price of the album.

  Just want to let you know about it.

But the cool thing is that the host said that she could't wait to buy it and she talked a little bit about the new GNR in a positive way.

Welcome Yanz.


You mean it was something done by the radiostation telling people the GH was coming and not a commercial done by the record company?



/jarmo

 Sounds like it. The best way to describe it is a car dealer commercial!  You know when they hired someone at the station to do the publicity for them, well it was exactly like it.

Maybe it's RCA Records that has a deal with Universal for promoting Velvet Revolver?  :hihi:

thats the artwork:

(http://www.musictap.net/Graphics/JPGsGifs/MiniCDCovers/Feb04/GunsNRosesGreatestHitsCD.jpg)

pretty fuckin lame
i found it here

http://www.rockview.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=236

I think it looks very good!

Are people opposed to a GH categorically or is it the lame tracklist that is the issue?

With a good tracklist, maybe a bonus track even i would get it - its just a GH with 14 tracks and 5 covers that really annoys me...

Remastered songs and one unreleased track (Crash Diet) and I would've bought it.

Duga,

the songs are remastered (according to CD Universe)


/lastroots

I wonder how much different the re-mastering will sound?  I hope not much, I'm going to be pissed if I hear so much about increased sound quality that I have to actually go out with my head hung low and buy it ...

http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=2092185

Beautiful ... and the wheels keep on turning on the one thing the fans don't want.

Hmm... I hope that's correct.  :confused:

check it out http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=2092185  

guess this makes it official

Two words - contractual obligations.

You'll find that quite a lot of bands release a Greatest Hits CD as the last CD of a predetermined contractual amount of CD's to free themselves to negotiate with other record companies ie Red Hot Chili Peppers released (E.M.I. released) What Hits & Out In L.A. (b-sides & rarities) as the last two CD's of their contract which freed them up to sign with Warner Brothers.

Perhaps this is the last Gunners CD on Geffen / Universal?

I think this may fulfill the contract between Geffen and G & R.

 ;)

Doesn't sound much like it if they are considering legal action against Geffen.

i kinda agree but why would geffen put money into CD and plan a CD world tour if GNR are not agreeing for a contract on it???

Tours are paid for by Tour Promotors, not the record label. Ummm, was it Clearnet or something like that, that promoted the tour in Canada that turned to shite? Can't remember. Also, it's in the best interest of Geffen / Universal to pay to promote the Greatest Hits as they have probably already paid a predetermined amount of money to Guns for a (possibly) 7 or 8 album contract, which most young bands then proceed to piss against the wall, inject, snort, shag etc.
This Greatest Hits would probably make more money for the label than it would for GN'R.
At the same time, though, Guns had the world at their feet when they signed with Geffen, so if they had decent legal representation (was it Big Peter Paterno?) then, they might have signed a better record deal than most.
Either way, this is all SPECULATION !

Anyway, where did the information come from saying that Axl wanted nothing to do with this particular version of the Greatest Hits?

I guess these guys do ...

By Jonathan Cohen
NEW YORK (Billboard) - While work continues on Guns N' Roses' endlessly delayed album "Chinese Democracy," Geffen Records has set a March 23 release date for "Greatest Hits," compiling 14 of the hard rock act's best-known tracks.

The album boasts such favorites as "Welcome to the Jungle," "Sweet Child O' Mine," "Patience," "Paradise City" and a cover of the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy for the Devil" from the "Interview With a Vampire" soundtrack.

This is the third archival Guns N' Roses release since last fall, when Geffen issued DVDs of the home videos "Welcome to the Videos" and the two-volume "Use Your Illusion."

However, according to sources, the band did not give its consent for "Greatest Hits" to move forward and may pursue legal action to block its release.

The group, which revolves around sole original member Axl Rose, will return to the live stage May 30 at the Rock in Rio-Lisbon festival in Lisbon, Portugal. It will be GNR's first live appearance since a disastrous 2002 comeback tour, which was canceled with 13 dates remaining.

As for "Chinese Democracy," it is unknown when the album will be released. Bassist Tommy Stinson told Billboard.com last year that finishing touches were being applied to the set before it would be sent off for mixing.

Reuters/Billboard



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LEGAL JUNGLE: Guns N' Roses frontman Axl Rose, who controls the name of the band, considering legal action against Geffen Records to block the March 23 release of a Greatest Hits collection, featuring 14 of G N' R's best-known tracks.

PARADISE CITY: Meanwhile, Axl and his newly revamped Guns N' Roses are scheduled to play the Rock in Rio-Lisbon festival on May 30, their first live gig since their disastrous 2002 comeback tour which was scrapped with 13 dates remaining.
 

Clearchannel.

That's the one.

Columbia House are now taking pre-orders for the GH.

As Guns N' Roses continues to toil in the studio on the forever-awaited comeback album Chinese Democracy, Geffen Records has announced plans to release a Greatest Hits compilation featuring 14 of the head-banging band's classic tunes on March 23.

Apparently, such news hasn't gone over too well with frontman Axl Rose, who controls the band.
 
Sources tell Billboard that Guns N' Roses is considering suing the label to block the distribution of Greatest Hits package, claiming Geffen never obtained permission to release the collection.

The album would contain tracks from the band's late-'80s/early-'90s heyday, including as "Welcome to the Jungle," "Sweet Child O' Mine," "Paradise City," "Patience" and a cover of the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy for the Devil" from the Interview with a Vampire soundtrack.

Calls to the group's rep and Geffen were not immediately returned.

Rose, whose appetite for perfection has led to multiple postponements of Chinese Democracy, the band's first studio album in over a decade, isn't the only upset by the pending best-of CD.

A group of fans is going to great lengths to persuade Universal Music Group, which owns Geffen, not to put out the Greatest Hits. The disgruntled fans have launched an online petition at heretodaygonetohell.com expressing dismay with the song selection ("there are stronger tracks in their catalog that are not included") and arguing that such a release could cannibalize sales of Chinese Democracy.

This isn't the first time Geffen's cobbled together a "new" Guns N' Roses release in recent years. To keep interest in the band from waning, the label has plundered the GNR archives compiling material from the previously released home videos Welcome to the Videos and the two-volume Use Your Illusion for two DVDs.

Rose, the lone original member remaining in the lineup, has struggled to keep the group alive, hiring a bunch of new sidemen, including avant-garde guitar whiz Buckethead.

The newly revamped GNR hit the road to much fanfare in 2002 with the Chinese Democracy tour--the band's first in more than a decade. But things quickly deteriorated and the tour was scrapped midway through with no real reason given (though sources close to the band's management say Axl's backstage antics, including an alleged brawl with his manager, may have been the cause).

That concert meltdown came after the band sparked a riot on the opening night of the tour in Vancouver when frontman Rose failed to turn up.

After taking a break from touring in 2003, the Gunners are scheduled to regroup for a May 30 gig at the Rock in Rio-Lisbon festival in Lisbon, Portugal.

Still no word when Chinese Democracy will finally hit record stores.

I was fixin' to post this. Thankfully, this guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

Dude, post your source or link :beer:

I posted this in the news section...
Hey, I sent an e-mail to this girl, Luciana, to put in her site (big site about movies and music) some news about the GH.  She already updated the site with the release news http://www.omelete.com.br/musica/news/base_para_news.asp?artigo=8019. Nothing new at all, but she did mention HTGTH!  

Fans unhappy with Guns N' Roses

By Luciana Maria Sanches
19/2/2004  


Guns N' Roses fans are angry with the Greatest Hits schedule release.

They are not happy because they had wait that the next Guns news would be about the release from the long waited Chinese Democracy. Also, they think the track list is weak and predictable, without any unreleased stuff.

The fans have a petiton online in the unofficial site www.heretodaygonetohell.com and they are spaming the Universal Records e-mail. They ask for, at least, some new tracks and/or some b-sides from the original band.

The unhappy fans news is all over the world right now. Maybe the records would try to be carreful in their next plans. The fans aren't assholes.


The Omelete thanks Bruno do Amaral for the source.

source: www.omelete.com.br
direct link: http://www.omelete.com.br/musica/news/base_para_news.asp?artigo=8044

BTW, I am Bruno do Amaral!  

p.s.: sorry for my bad translation..  

Eil (a British online store) have it listed for March 15. It's already available for preorder :

http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=275873&from=AG01D98

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040219/lath031_1.html

Well, I think we're all resigned to it coming out. In a way I hope Axl just forgets about it. Hopefully Guns N Roses and management will just continue as normal and get CD out as soon as possible.

If it doesn't effect CD then I'm happy. I'm not buying it till CD comes out tho.

@#$%Muther

So are the songs going to remastered at least?

AA

WOW!! You guys are fast.  I just got paged by someone who GOT the PR and came here to post about it. Jeesh!! :)

Yes, the tracks are remastered. They DEFINITELY sound more fuller, especially the APPETITE tracks. You will truly appreciate the production and performances a lot more.

By the way, they did remaster all of the albums, not just the these 14 tracks so expect those to be released at the end of the year.

how do you know this?

Greatest Hits CD - GEFFEN Press Release


Guns N' Roses. GREATEST HITS. For the First Time.
Thursday February 19, 10:01 am ET

LOS ANGELES, Feb. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- It may surprise some to realize that Guns N' Roses released only four full-length original albums, and two of those debuted simultaneously. But they were enough to forever change rock 'n' roll. Even more shocking is that one of the great bands in rock history, with its last studio album issued 10 years ago, has never had a "best of" compilation. Now it has. Welcome to the jungle with GREATEST HITS (Geffen), released March 23, 2004.

With 14 selections housed in a digipak, GREATEST HITS features all eight of the band's Top 40 Billboard Hot 100 tracks (five of them RIAA-certified "gold," i.e., sales of more than 500,000 units). Along with spanning the group's five album releases, GREATEST HITS also marks the debut on a Guns N' Roses album of the band's cover of the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" for the 1995 film INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE.

The first full-length album from GN'R, 1987's APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION, is one of the most popular hard rock albums in history. As of February 21, 2004, the album has been on the Billboard Top 200 Albums or Top Pop Catalog chart for a total of 545 weeks. Selling more than 20 million copies worldwide -- 15 times platinum in the U.S. -- it charted #1 for five weeks. The album included three Top 10s: the gold #1 single "Sweet Child O' Mine," the anthem "Welcome To The Jungle" (#7) and the frenzied rocker "Paradise City" (#5).

1988's G N'R LIES, comprised of songs from the group's independently-released 1986 EP LIVE?!*@LIKE A SUICIDE plus new studio recordings, followed APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION up the charts. Zooming to #2, the Grammy-nominated album (for Hard Rock Performance) was five times platinum (each platinum level connotes sales of more than one million units) and claimed the gold #4-charting ballad "Patience."

Then, on September 17, 1991, with one of the most anticipated releases ever in music, both USE YOUR ILLUSION I and USE YOUR ILLUSION II debuted. I featured two gold singles with "November Rain" (#3) and "Don't Cry" (#10) plus another Top 40 with "Live And Let Die" (#33). II boasted another gold hit with the previously-released single "You Could Be Mine" (#29), heard in the film TERMINATOR II: JUDGEMENT DAY. Each of the USE YOUR ILLUSION albums went seven times platinum. I reached #2 and II reached #1. II was Grammy nominated for Best Hard Rock Performance as was the Wings cover "Live And Let Die." GREATEST HITS also culls from II "Yesterdays," "Civil War" and GN'R's take on Bob Dylan's "Knockin' On Heaven's Door."

A collection of Guns N' Roses covers of classic, mainly punk, songs that had influenced the bandmembers since their early days, 1993's "THE SPAGHETTI INCIDENT?" hit #4 and platinum. Included on GREATEST HITS are its renditions of The Dead Boys' 1978 track "Ain't It Fun" and an unlikely cover of The Skyliners' '50s doo-wop gem "Since I Don't Have You."

Source - Geffen

Most of us will not buy it, others  dont know who the hell is gn'r.What is the purpose of releasing the GH. Fuck ,GH with a shitty selected tracklist >:(

Really no use for GH, then.

At the very least, it's gonna be a digipak.....

Guns N' Roses. GREATEST HITS. For the First Time.
Thursday February 19, 10:01 am ET

LOS ANGELES, Feb. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- It may surprise some to realize that Guns N' Roses released only four full-length original albums, and two of those debuted simultaneously. But they were enough to forever change rock 'n' roll. Even more shocking is that one of the great bands in rock history, with its last studio album issued 10 years ago, has never had a "best of" compilation. Now it has. Welcome to the jungle with GREATEST HITS (Geffen), released March 23, 2004.
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With 14 selections housed in a digipak, GREATEST HITS features all eight of the band's Top 40 Billboard Hot 100 tracks (five of them RIAA-certified "gold," i.e., sales of more than 500,000 units). Along with spanning the group's five album releases, GREATEST HITS also marks the debut on a Guns N' Roses album of the band's cover of the Rolling Stones' "Sympathy For The Devil" for the 1995 film INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE.

The first full-length album from GN'R, 1987's APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION, is one of the most popular hard rock albums in history. As of February 21, 2004, the album has been on the Billboard Top 200 Albums or Top Pop Catalog chart for a total of 545 weeks. Selling more than 20 million copies worldwide -- 15 times platinum in the U.S. -- it charted #1 for five weeks. The album included three Top 10s: the gold #1 single "Sweet Child O' Mine," the anthem "Welcome To The Jungle" (#7) and the frenzied rocker "Paradise City" (#5).

1988's G N'R LIES, comprised of songs from the group's independently-released 1986 EP LIVE?!*@LIKE A SUICIDE plus new studio recordings, followed APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION up the charts. Zooming to #2, the Grammy-nominated album (for Hard Rock Performance) was five times platinum (each platinum level connotes sales of more than one million units) and claimed the gold #4-charting ballad "Patience."

Then, on September 17, 1991, with one of the most anticipated releases ever in music, both USE YOUR ILLUSION I and USE YOUR ILLUSION II debuted. I featured two gold singles with "November Rain" (#3) and "Don't Cry" (#10) plus another Top 40 with "Live And Let Die" (#33). II boasted another gold hit with the previously-released single "You Could Be Mine" (#29), heard in the film TERMINATOR II: JUDGEMENT DAY. Each of the USE YOUR ILLUSION albums went seven times platinum. I reached #2 and II reached #1. II was Grammy nominated for Best Hard Rock Performance as was the Wings cover "Live And Let Die." GREATEST HITS also culls from II "Yesterdays," "Civil War" and GN'R's take on Bob Dylan's "Knockin' On Heaven's Door."

A collection of Guns N' Roses covers of classic, mainly punk, songs that had influenced the bandmembers since their early days, 1993's "THE SPAGHETTI INCIDENT?" hit #4 and platinum. Included on GREATEST HITS are its renditions of The Dead Boys' 1978 track "Ain't It Fun" and an unlikely cover of The Skyliners' '50s doo-wop gem "Since I Don't Have You."

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Source: Geffen

Note: The hell is a digipak?

After all this waiting and what do we get? A Greatest Hits CD with a bullshit track listing not authorised by Axl.

Im not gonna buy it.

What a bullshit press release.  They can go fuck themselves.

not for me. I hate the digipacks.
By the way, no press release on geffen.com interscope.com gnronline.com, as usual.

These guys don't even know a shit about communication or marketing.

Actually, now that I think about it, "Sympathy For The Devil" is a decent selection considering its relatively obscure and is one of the few (only?) GNR tracks not released on an album.  Face it, GNR dont have much when it comes to unreleased material, especially stuff thats recorded well, "SFTD" is as close as you can come to an "unheard song"  for most casual fans.  Only other objections I have are the inclusion of "Aint It Fun" and "Since I Dont Have You," although the latter is understandable since its the only real single (complete with video)  for The Spaghetti Incident?.  Its pretty hard to pick outside of the obvious hits, but I would have liked to see "Rocket Queen," "Nighttrain," and maybe "Used To Love Her".  

Ill buy it eventually, but its certainly not something Ill be getting immediately.

I don't have Sympathy for the Devil on CD, and I've been waiting almost 10 years for it. I personally love their rendition of it, and remastered with the rest of these tracks sounds damn good to me. If I wait for the remastered full albums to be released at the end of the year I'll still be waiting for Sympathy for the Devil as it was only released on a CD single for Interview of the Vampire.

Call me selfish if you like... sorry Axl.

AA.
P.S. - A digipack is a cardboard slipcase the CD sits in. No big deal.

God i hate this package. Why are these bastards doing this? it's utterly gratuitous.

I love the GNR version of Sympathy. But I have it already. I bought the single when Interview came out(The single also contained a piece from the score).

I will never EVER buy this GH album.

"They can go fuck themselves"

no truer words have been said.

"It may surprise some to realize that Guns N' Roses released only four full-length original albums"

That is written like there will be no more GnR albums, it should read "so far" or "have". That sounds a bit scary. Either they mean that there will be no CD, or they haven't really been thinkin' of anything while writing that.

no mention of the new band or CD...scary indeed...

Now that the release has been made official by Geffen, I'm starting to wonder why Geffen didn't put anything unreleased on it (like they did with the Nirvana one)?

I'm sure they could've found something unreleased to put on it. Even a cover, for example Heartbreak Hotel from their demo tape. Part of it was played on the Making Fucking Videos Part I home video.


Or is it just about Geffen being able to do whatever they want with the tracks already out there? A compilation of the Use Your Illusion tracks were released a few years ago and now this. None of them had any unreleased material on them.



/jarmo

I think its all about Geffen milking the cash cow. But hopefully it might get people at least interested in the GNR name. They should have at least maybe put a cover of a song from the new line up on there like SCOM or Jungle as a bonus track, since they are Guns N' Roses now.

he's bullshitting..he has mouthed here since he came to this board with no proves.

Wouldn't it have been funny if the unreleased bonus track had been that rumored Lionel Richie/Gnr song from a while ago  :hihi:

Jarmo, from all the unreleased bootlegs I have heard, I honestly don't think there are any completed tracks/outtakes worthy of release. The Illusions cleaned the closet- I believe. Good riddance. Now can we please move on to some Chinese Stew? :beer:

You know what sucks?

Read other online msg boards concerning the GNR GHits...

Most people are making fun of the band saying they are washed up and only good to release old stuff instead of new.

Yeah - GH got people talking about GNR alright... in the worst possible way!

It will sell poorly and this will make an even worse impression of the band!  :rant:

I'm not sure "funny" is the word I'd use.  Perhaps "disturbing beyond all belief and heralding the coming of the Apocalypse" would be more appropriate.  :hihi:

Hah! All things considered , if there ever was a Lionel/Axl duet it would make perfect sence to do "hello , is it me you're looking for?" since we are all waiting on and looking for Axl.

ROFL!  ;D

Hahahahaha! I was thinking the same damn thing :hihi:

I would have been nice to have included an unreleased track or even "Oh My God", but as I mentioned in another thread, I think this GH "package" was sorted out years ago before the GN'R releases of 1999.

Crash diet would make a good unreleased track in my opinion. A lot of non-hardcore fans have never heard it.

Crash Diet, Shadow Of Your Love + all the songs that are missing - It's So Easy, Nightrain, Reckless Life, Estranged.
I like the fact that Sympathy For The Devil is on there, although I have the single some people may not + it's way better than the original, as much as people hate Fat Sorum, I think he's a wicked drummer & it shows on this track.

1. It will be on record stores' playing lists (Tower Records, Virgin Megastore, Amoeba, etc.). They will play the cd 2-3 times a day for the next several months (as many times as they play Britney Spears' In The Zone and Michael Jackson's #1s).

2. The cd WILL attract new/young fans.

3. Will set up the release of CHINESE DEMOCRACY

i dont know why you all guys says it so fucking bad with a GH album.... yeah, it isnt chinese democracy, but would you rather have nothing?!?


edit: ohyeah, thatt third thing you said, smart! it will make new fans get to know GNR, the old, but so far the best GNR in the studio to date, so why not let the non-fans get blessed by GNR's sweet music once again, before changing history with CD!  :P

If it is as you say, then why would Axl be against the release of GH?  
GH can be seen as a good thing for the reasons you mention.  Is he totally against giving any credit to the ex-GNR members?

And if he supports the release, then why are there so many freakin covers, and no bonus materials?

If I were a new fan and liked GH, and then I saw Chinese Democracy and the new lineup, I would be very confused as to what happened to GNR... IMO

No matter what boardmembers say--the casual music fan, which buys most new releases, will have to become reaquainted with the the music of Guns N' Roses in order for CHINESE DEMOCRACY to become a "huge" success.

Most only remember "November Rain," "Sweet Child O' Mine," and "Paradise City." GREATEST HITS will be a big reminder to these casual fans and CHINESE DEMOCRACY will be the greatest gift to die-hards.

In a few months, when they begin hyping the shows in Europe and CHINESE DEMOCRACY is about to drop, these casual fans, along with the die-hards will (!!!) pick up a copy of CHINESE DEMOCRACY.

To tell you the truth...I do not believe Axl is against the release of GREATEST HITS (confict creates great publicity). The story has been printed/posted everywhere. He knows that the G N'R name on ads in magazines, newspapers, on gigantic billboards in front of major record stores, etc. will be great for his new album.

The ads will be down by the end of April. Their European tour begins a month later, CHINESE DEMOCRACY will be released soonafter. The timing will be great.  :yes: :peace: :yes:

As of right now, GH is off of Amazon.com

hmv.ca doesn't list a release date for it.

http://www.cheap-cds.com/surf/disps/439130 Shows the current release date as 12/31/04

fye & cduniverse still currently show it for 3/23/04

With all that being said, though - Amazon NOT having it listed anymore could (and I stress could) be indicative of serious activity behind the scenes.  I was told a while ago that GH's release date should be used as the barometer for the possibility of 'official info' coming soon thereafter.  To specifically watch for the date to either get pushed back, or, just disappear altogether.

One thing whacked about this: The Press Release came out on the 19th - and its still out there on Yahoo - so I really do wonder just what the hell is going on.

-darknemus

Dude, you are the Sherlock Holmes of the crazy GNR world - do you have a Watson sidekick?  :)

On-topic:  Do you know (or have any reason to believe) that Axl is going to sue to prevent the GH release?

seems to me that these are some good news  :hihi:

The closest thing I'd have to a Watson would be Pilferk - however, those roles are easily interchangable and I could very well play the Watson to his holmes.  The guy rocks, period.

As far as Axl planning to sue - only what I read on the mtv article.  I did a quick search on findlaw.com (a website that tracks suits and court cases) and only found a reference to the possibility of a suit going forward.  http://news.findlaw.com/entertainment/s/20040218/musicgunsdc.html

-darknemus

Here we go again. Greatest Hits saga round 2  ::)

@#$%Muther

At least I can't find it... Still on CDUniverse.com, though.

this was posted in the other thread.

Sorry, then... Should have read more before I posted.

Well lets just face it, its coming

I don't know alot about the music biz, but when someone releases the greatest hits, isn't usually before a comeback?

I don't doubt that it's coming. As soon as the press release came out I thought "whelp, that's coming out."

And I don't really care if it's released or not. I'd like to hear that GnR endorse it, but that doesn't seem apparent. I don't think I'd buy it unless it had Brownstone on it either way.

---------------------------------------------

I have no idea whether GH signifies comebacks in the biz. STP released a GH and we all know what is going on with them... jack shit. On the other hand, RHCP is releasing a greatest hits then supposedly within 6 months a new album. There's a lot of possibilites.

CD will probably come out this year or not come out on Geffen.

I checked Amazon at least twice a day for the past few weeks and never saw GH listed, although I know it was up on the Amazon UK site.  I haven't looked in the past few days, though...did it get listed and I missed it, or was it never posted at all?
Just wondering what I missed.
/Mike
Edit:  I checked the Amazon.com.uk site and searched..GH is still listed there.

That's what I think as well. And I really don't think the greatest hits is that big of a deal as some think.

They should at least try to put something on it that would get our attention. You'd think if they put a cover of the new band doing Jungle or SCOM (shit we've already heard half of a new version anyway) that it would get more people aware of the new line up who don't own any of the old records, plus it would give fans who already own those albums a reason to buy the shitty thing.

...Bottom line is that GH is sill forthcoming, yes?  Odd to not see that press release on either Geffen or Interscpe's site, however....

Joe

Now it?s really official:

www.geffen.com (http://www.geffen.com)

 :crying:

I must be blind cause I don't see it.

Where is it ?

Scroll down. It?s under upcoming releases.

Weird... The only thing I can see there is : Truman/Payne Avenue...

Actually... it's not.

The only thing under Upcoming Releases is Truman. Unless I'm completely wacked out here....  LOL...

AA.

Maybe you should reload the site or anything. I don?t know. But it?s there. I can see it.  ;)

It's there now.

AA.

 :)

You know, I know some people are happy to get this GH Album. But I?m really fustrated about that. I mean, I also will buy it cause I?m a fan and I want to have every single peace of this band but I?m really not happy with it. What was the point for Geffen to release it? Is it just the money? I don?t get it. I mean, a lot of fans are against that GH, but who cares about the fans? ???

Oh damn, Thanks for nothing Geffen, Thanks for nothing!

 :drool:

Remember that Geffen has been GN'R shit for years.I am sure the G.H. is just to make money,that's the way it always will be.I wish they would put OMG on the G.H. cd,but Geffen sure doesn't care about the fans :no:

Universal Music Denmark has a "Greatest Hits" TV spot on their site (http://www.umusic.dk/universal/).

Just click TV Spots on the menu.
 
Thanks to: Erik



/jarmo

http://www.umusic.dk/universal/vplayer_high.asp?file=http://media.streamworks.dk/universal/guns2004.wmv&artist=Guns%20N%20Roses&track=TV%20SPOT# (http://www.umusic.dk/universal/vplayer_high.asp?file=http://media.streamworks.dk/universal/guns2004.wmv&artist=Guns%20N%20Roses&track=TV%20SPOT#)

thanks Saul at The GNR Bar

EDIT/MODIFIED:  FIXED LINK

Hmmmm, i think ive figured it out!

i know why AXL ROSE doesnt want the greatest hits released!

why.........., because if axl is planning to release his old/new chinese democracy record this year but the greatest hits record comes out..........whos names will be on the credits to the songs--- original GNR --- not axls freak show gnr, so people will buy it ( maybe ) after years of not playing gnr songs, reliving memories, thinking back to how they used to be back in those days,

then axl comes out with his new/old cd and maybe a tour, people will buy CD and tickets to shows ( MAYBE ) and when that happens, the shit really hits the fan when people feel conned when they realise that axl has a new band running under the banner of GNR which isnt of course isnt  GNR, so all hell breaks lose, people wanting their money back etc....

thats the reason...............( maybe ) :peace:

Yaah, Its from the danish part of Universal.... Weird...

Because, you cant buy the new dvds in any record stores in Denmark. You have to order them over the internet...

And now this tv-spot....

i like the video collage, its always nice to see


rock n' roll

I hope casual fans dont see this and just assume the old lineup is back together.

"wow , I just saw a TV ad with axl and slash together again..are the old lineup back?!"

God , I hope that doesnt happen.

Well, that was annoying.

I cant see the new TV spot... :rant:
Dosent work for me..i can hear it but cant see it.. :crying:

Hello!

Now you can find the Greatest Hits album under upcoming releases on the Geffen site..

I do not find it listed.

I have a fucking gift certificate to use and wanted to pre-order

Hell you could pre-order the Nov.25th release date two months ahead if you wanted.

I do not understand why it is not listed with only 4 weeks to go.

Does anyone know if adverstisments have went to the press with this? I know they usually go 4 weeks ahead of time. You know the major record chains and there adverstisments. They should be going to the printer this week.

I'll be damed if I use my own money on this...............

 :hihi:

I have no idea. it's listed on amazon.de, co.uk, fr though, as well as jpc.de.


/lastroots

5t of whiskey: "Why can't I pre-order the GH on www.amazon.com"?

Cuz 'ol Uncle Axl has siezed control over the internet and is preventing its sale! :hihi:

Why ARE you trying to pre-order of the GH?

im  waiting for it to go on ebay as a second hand item then ill buy it with no extra money going to universal :P

My thoughts exactly ...

You can pre-order it at Amazon UK - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001KIESE/qid=1077807831/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_11_10/026-3567616-5814830 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001KIESE/qid=1077807831/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_11_10/026-3567616-5814830)

It's also available at PlayUSA.com, and HMV.vo.uk.

I was about to say that! lol.

According to Amazon UK, the GH is out on 15 March, 2004.  :D

Really? FANTASTIC!! That's my birthday, whooooooo!!! :D

Im not sure why most of you guys have a problem with the Greatest hits album coming out? I think that most of you Axl lovers are just scraed that the general public will appreciate the talents of the old band and say fuck Axl and his new collaboration. This band deserves to have all there hits remembered on one compilation,you cant argue with that. Who cares if it doesnt have Axls approval,i bet all the bootlegs you all have dont have his approval either. he will still get his money. Get over yourselves guys,you will all but it. Enough politics, enjoy the real Guns N Roses :peace:

You will all buy it :peace:

Scared?  Naah, not really.  Feel its a bad sign?  Yes, and I'll explain why.

1. The original release date of November only to disappear with rumors of some sort of agreement between GNR & Geffen for a Chinese Democracy Release - then GH rears its ugly head again 4 months later.

2. The Geffen link to the disc on their site not linking back to gnronline.com (I'll explain in a moment)

3. The GH press release not mentioning Rio, or, more importantly, Chinese Democracy.  Not even a "The band is hard at work on their follow-up, Chinese Democracy" - nothing.

4. gnronline.com, itself, not mentioning the disc.

5. Mysteron asking for our help in stopping the GH release.

explanation of 2: if you feel that there's been a fallout between Geffen & GNR - then there would be no reason for Geffen to link to a website that mentions Chinese Democracy - as it would seem they have no interest in promoting it.

So, yeah, I think its not a "good thing"

-darknemus

I'd like to see things from your point of view, but I can't seem to get my head that far up Slash's ass.


No...

-PEACE-

i agree, i really hope that this doesn't turn out to be some ugly battle between Axl and Geffen.  it makes me nervous  :nervous: to think about any chance of seeing anything new from GNR again.  This might be ok to have the GH released for the average fan who does not really understanding the actions how the GH might affect the future of the band.  But the fact is, it could be a scary situation.  I don't feel good about it, thats for sure.  I know that I thought that it might be good to have a GH before but the more I think about it the more I want to  :crying: Well maybe not that, but probably just  :rant:

Like darknemus, I'm not scared of a Greatest Hits release either.  I am a little concerned that it's a bad sign, though.

However, I don't think it could be as bad of a sign as darknemus is suggesting it could be.  The fact that Interscope isn't mentioning anything about the new band or Chinese Democracy seems to fall in line with what the band has been doing itself, since the end of 2002.  Either it's all been a big ruse and everyone's been yanking our chain to make us believe a in a non-existent band, or they really do want to just hit us with it and make it a big surprise.  I don't think there's any other explanation for all the silence.  

Most importantly, gnronline.com is run by Interscope, not Sanctuary or Gn'R.  They could just remove the news about Chinese Democracy if they really wanted us to forget about it and mention the Greatest Hits instead.   : ok:

However, I don't think you'll find a poster here who doesn't love the old band and Slash's work with it.  As far as politics, most of us have moved on, and our love for the old band and the music they created doesn't prevent us from enjoying good music and what the new band has to offer.  I think you're the one making it political.   ;)

No, I won't.  :peace:

No, I won?t...

same here, not going to buy it. and good post and opinions Dark

I agree,who says we can't love the old and the new? :peace:

i'm not scared of the GH. to this point, the label hasn't done much to push axl..... and CD still isn't out. so i don't think a GH album will make things any worse.

and i can't boycott it or complain about it because if i was in charge i'd be doing the same exact thing.

it won't effect sales of CD, if anything it's getting people thinking about gnr again. if axl can't handle it, too bad - don't be such a bitch.

and the fact that geffen hasn't mentioned CD or rio doesn't surprise me at all. geffen has their credibility to worry about - so why would they want to predict anything involving axl.

I just came up with a slightly wacky theory thats probably wrong, but here goes.

Aint It Fun's a weird choice for a song to go on the GH - when lets face it Mr. Brownstone, Nightrain, Rocket Queen are all probably better choices. Mabye its Universal taking a swipe at Axl? In the lyrics it says "Aint it fun how all your friends dispise what youve become" and "Aint it fun how youve broke up every band youve ever begun", "Aint it fun how you just take care of number one", "Aint it fun how you cant seem to find your tounge" - they could all be relevant to Axls current position and how hes percived to be.

Probably just a wacky theory, but i thought it was intressting.

It's just all the singles... it would make sense to have Aint it Fun on there ;)

Your probably right, my crazy theory ;D

however Mr.Brownstone was released as a joint single along with It's So Easy....

yeah that's right..nothing more. and still, it's one of the best songs in TSI

Remember when we were young and naive we would say to ourselves that gnronline.com would be updated when there was news........ :'(

A headlining show

A new album

.....and nothing

One begins to wonder if GNR will even announce Chinese Democracy when its ready.....

Now, not only am I a noob to this board, but also to the music industry, don't flame me too hard.  But what exactly would it mean if the GH was "remastered"  Does that mean the original tracks would be "cleaned" up, like they do to old movies, or would new tracks be laid down to "update" the sound, or does technology now allow them to release it in Dolby digital (like Pink Floyd's reissue of Dark Side)

IMO, if the greatest hits would be in 5.1, that would be awesome, anything else is just a money grab (like the DVD's)

Artist: Guns N' Roses
Tittel: Greatest Hits
Label: Universal Tv
Selskap: UNI
Lydb?rer: Album
Releasedato: 17-03-2004
Catalog number: UNI-986210 -8  


Just 2 weeks left. Im sure we will get some info on Chinese Dem along with this GH Release!! Its weird if we dont ;)

Don't count on it.  They wouldn't need to put out a GH if CD was gonna be released soon. :'(

I guess you are right, jellyhead...... :(

Maybe its just this thing that have delayed Chinese Democracy. Maybe GNR had a contract about a GH release, and Axl have struggled with this release...

You mean the germans can be happy because in Germany the album will be out on March, 15th ? ;)

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, that theory is no more likely than the idea that Gh indicates CD is coming.

Both are as likely, we've had the discussion, it's just how you choose to look at it.

@#$%Muther

Well, yeah!:)
 I realize that there is alot of negativity about this GH album on this forum. And to be honest! I really dont know why! I think that its another sign that somthing is happening. I look forward to go buy this album in the store in two weeks! Remember, Guns N Roses dont release this album for us guys who live our lifes on this forum. GNR release this album for all the people around the world, who maybe has laid back their GNR records year ago! This is a way to make some energy on the name "Guns N Roses" Get the "normal" people around the world to say: "Hey! A new GNR Record!!!! All theyr greatest hits" And then there will be a little GNR wave around the world again. And exactly this is the time that GNR will start the promotion, and the release off info about the new Band. A Perfect mediastunt that many artists have used before! Things will begin in a couple of weeks! Ill promise u!
 Remember also, that GNR is the only BIG band in the world, (of the old rock bands) that havent released a GH record...!

I was looking on Play.com and I thought I would go on the coming soon on the music and Guns N' Roses - Greatest Hits is set out to be come out March 15th so UK fans we have it. :<

Just found out that it will be released in Norway the 15 Mars... Not the 17th

Sorry Dave_Rose, not being funny or anything, but we knew that about a week ago.

With two weeks to go, I pretty sure we're all gonna get it. It's better than this becoming some all out war between Axl and the label.

@#$%Muther

I got one question.What is a digipack

Cardboard case.



/jarmo

and whats a cardboard case?  ???

Paper....


http://www.digipak.com/

Google is a wonderful thing. ;)


/jarmo

warning, norweigian coming:
papp... papir...
------------------------------------------------

like Nine inch Nails - Fragile and Loaded - Dark Days i guess
or maybe its a normal cd cover with just  a cardboard case outside it?

Awesome Cover..................you don't see many album covers go with silver (platinum ;))

I love it.,,,,,,,,basic ...........simple............eye catching........... :D



no matter how it is spun...............Guns n' Roses ROCKED...........all of the songs kick ass.

Wonder if they will do some videos with this? Like they did with Live ERA.

I just hope they pick differnt songs than Live ERA.

5th thrives on variety

 :yes:

The track are listed already:

Welcome to the jungle
Sweet child of mine
Patience
Paradise City
Knockin' on heaven's door
Civil war
You could be mine
Don't cry (original)
November rain
Live and let die
Yesterdays
Ain't it fun
Since I don't have you
Sympathy for the devil


-F

wath 5th meant (well, in my mind) was if it was to have video it could have some other videos than from Live Era.... but couldnt they just re-release one of their old video's? add new life footage instead of the one they used...  think WTTJ, same vid, only when its live footage its a mix from the new GNR and various versions of the old life shit?

What crap, no "Estranged"?  And since when was "Yesterdays" a hit?

What blarney.

since when was estranged a hit? or was it? i always though it didnt hit too high on the charts....

Its really just a singles record

Actually Yesterdays was a big MTV hit back in the day it was releaased back to back with Garden of eden, but yesterdays spent many a weeks in the top requested vids on the show ala TRL (I fucking forgot the name of the show). :rant:
IT was the show that Adam Curry hosted.

I think that you might be right,but what do you expect from a record company?

As I'm searching in yahoo search mode I'm coming across sites that say the new GH is remastered.  I'm hoping this is true, because I'll actually buy the CD.  Check this out...I guess this is confirming the CD is actually remastered along with a digi-pack (whats that mean?)

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?style=MUSIC&pid=6453291&cart=179301984

digipak, is digilicious. J/k

Just go to Digipack.com

A dvd audio cd or sacd would be delightful

hello
what do you think,how many copies of greatest hitsa will be sold?
i think between 200000-500000 copies

I think a few more than that, a few million worldwide!!

The album is now listed on www.ginza.se (which probably is the biggest Swedish online record store):

Artist/Grupp: Guns N'Roses
Titel/Produkt: Greatest hits 2004
Typ: CD
Kategori: H?rdrock
Artikelnr: 32201
Releasedatum: 2004-03-17
Pris: 149 kr


Information

Under f?rsta delen av 80-talet s?g det ut som om h?rdrocken h?ll p? att d? ut. Pudelfrisyrerna, sminket mm. hos de grupper som sade sig representera rock'n'roll gjorde att rocken hade tappat sitt viktigaste element; den var inte farlig l?ngre. Allt detta kom att ?ndras n?r Guns N' Roses d?k upp. F?r f?rsta g?ngen p? l?nge fanns ett band som man inte visste var man hade; de drack, drogade och hade en allm?nt d?lig attityd, och det k?ndes inte som en fasad. Och ?n viktigare; de gjorde fantastiska l?tar: Welcome to the jungle, Paradise City, Sweet child o' mine... hits, hits, hits. Under slutet av 80-talet och b?rjan av 90-talet var de v?rldens st?rsta band. Nu n?r h?rdrocken ?r tillbaka p? allvar sitter denna Greatest Hits helt r?tt. 14 sp?r, 14 klassiker!

--

Free translation of the info part:

During the first part of the 80s it looked like the hardrock scene was dying.
The haircuts, the make up etc. of the groups that said to represent rock'n'roll made rock to lose its most important element; it wasn't dangerous anymore.
All of this changed when Guns N' Roses appeared. For the first time in a long time there was a unpredictable band; they drank, took drugs and had a bad attitude; they made fantastic songs: Welcome to the jungle, Paradise City, Sweet child o' mine... hits, hits, hits. During the end of the 80s and start of the 90s they were the biggest band in the world. Now that hardrock is coming back in a big way, this Greatest Hits is right. 14 tracks, 14 classics!

--

Something like that.


/jarmo

Just saw a short commercial for the Greatest Hits on MTV2 Europe.

It's got the intro to Sweet Child O' Mine playing while an animation of the GN'R logo is shown. The speaker says something about it being out on March 15th.



/jarmo

Looks like next week we'll have something "new" by GN'R in our hands...  ;D

I saw that one on Kerrang last night, looked a bit crap for an advertising feature, no clips of any band members or anything

It may end the old band and begin the new.

Funny thing is, that's exactly what they said about Live Era.  Let's face it, the record company felt the need after all this time to release ANY Guns product and so they decided to cash in on a Greatest Hits.  I will say this about it, though.  The picture they're using on the back is my all-time favourite band photo.  So that's cool.

(http://www.sgtpepper.info/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_25101/DIR_25107/DIR_26385/guns~n~roses.jpg)

Yeh that picture rocks : ok:

sam goody says its remasterd also

http://www.samgoody.com/Music/Album.aspx?p_id=P+++++4416&a_id=R+++670179&prodid=GEFB000171402.2

Why do I have the feeling that we're gonna be short changed again by GNR and the record company's.
I think that this album is gonna be a huge dissapointment for the hard core fans.  It'll have a few pictures, a couple of comments about the band but that's about it.
 The remastered tracks are probably not gonna be any different than the albums and as far as the booklet goes, I think that we're gonna get screwed with little information.  It's strictly a half-ass throw together for a quick cash grab from John Q. Public

Iam starting to think the same. I was hoping it would have an access code to on online site or some enhanced features or something ANYTHING new.. if this were done right it could have been huge..

Nightrain isnt even on the fucking CD. .... :'(

The whole thing is not meant for you, me or anyone on this board. It's meant for the people who know Sweet Child or Jungle, but who know nothing else about the band behind them. The people on this board, or hardcore GNR fans in general, are a very small group among all the possible record buyers. It's been more than 10 years since GNR disappeared from the public eye. There's a huge audience that has only after that grown to listen to music. The GH is a good way to introduce the band a little more to the people who know November Rain but who would never go and buy the actual albums because of the few songs they know and like.

And it IS promoting the new band too because the name of the band is still the same. The album called Chinese Democracy from a band called Guns N' Roses means nothing or very little to a lot of people outside these message boards, or younger people of 14-20 who didn't follow music that much during the "GNR era". But the Greatest Hits record has a possibility to make the band more familiar to those people who now don't have a clue or just don't care. My thinking is that some or hopefully many of them will pick the GH because of WTTJ or November Rain or songs like that, then notice that actually there are other good tunes too than just those three or four they already knew, and when in the near future they see Chinese Democracy in the stores, they will be much more likely to buy that than they had been before the GH.

I am eager to buy the thing, even though I don't get anything new from it.

I got the sampler CD of the album today, and from what I heard it's definitely not remastered. I compared the songs to the originals on AFD and UYI, and it sounds exactly the same  :(

I can't believe people still think that Universal would actually put a half an ounce of effort into this disc to enhance it in any way...They shat it out to either recoup or promote....You're lucky you got a digipack....

Joe

UK chart predictions for this album - MysticDaz says it will get to No.2, just behind George Michael.

I just saw the add on Irish TV station TV3. It was about 25 seconds long. It showed various clips of the band and sweet child o' mine Paradise city and you could be mine played in the background.

This was shown in the break of a Champions League match featuring Manchester United and Porto. It must be one of the highest ratings of the week during these matches as Man U are very popular here in Ireland.

So someone must be reaching in the pocket!

I found this site that is selling the GH.  Check out the release date...\


Greatest Hits
 
  Guns N Roses - 2003 (Best of)
CD List Price: $12.95 (RMST)
Our Price: $12.30
Scheduled for release on 12/31/2025.
 
 

Interesting to spend that on a GH. Wonder if we'll see that in US?

This albums seems to be promoted more than Live Era was.

The commercial is on heavy rotation on MTV2 Europe.




/jarmo

That's cool. Even though I don't care about GH, I'd still like to see that ad.

I work at a newspaper and i wandered into the back room where they keep the weekend Sunday inserts for Best Buy, Walmart, Target, ect. and none of the flyers for this weekend have GH listed in the new music release sections. I saw a new Godsmack and some rap crap but no GNR. This seems strange to me considering the album is supposedly coming out on March 16th (i think that's when it is). I haven't seen the Best Buy insert yet so maybe it will be in there.

Yea, what's even more odd is that it's being advertised in Europe pretty heavy. There is a mention of this on another thread. TV ads and everything.

Well, I just read the greatest hits is suppose to hit stores on March 23 so I guess my investigative work was for not. I'll have to look again next week and report back. However, they Kmart flyer for that weekend has already arrived and there was nothing in that. Also, I couldn't find GH on amazon.com. So who knows.

None of it has ever made sense with this band. What can you say. :P

If I'm not mistaken, the GH CD will be released March 15 & 16 in Europe, March 23 in the US, March 24 in Japan and April 11 in Australia.

The 7 days difference between the Euro and US release may explain why there's so much publicity in Europe for the CD and not so much (yet) in the US...Just my 2 cents.

That make sense to me.

What i think is that the record company isn't gonna spend too much at all on promotion for this thing....i bet in their eyes they've put enough money into this band...the album is just being put out to make some quick cash...and i know they're not expecting to make much out of it....the majority of people probably wont buy it, unless they're hardcores like us....(and from what i've read, most of us think its a joke, and aren't gonna get it anyway) so all in all, they're just tying to make a quick buck, no major promotion

I'm starting to suspect a non-US release could happen.  There has been almost zero news, promotion, or info made public here in America.

I'm sure this thing will sell a lot more copies in Europe, Asia, South America,etc. than it will here.  Also, Live Era was actually in the news when it came out....this thing ain't.  At this point, I doubt I see this cd in a store when it's scheduled to drop.

Would anyone really be surprised if this thing turned out to be solely intended to go hand in hand w/ a Euro tour?

Sorry in advance if this has already been discussed, but why with less than two weeks left before the release of the GH that there is still no link to click for the GH disk.  Every other album has a link to follow.  Maybe there is still a chance it could get scrapped? ???

News from Greece!!!

Today all record stores received the following fax from Universal Music:

(http://www.gunsnroses.gr/images/news/universalGHpr2.jpg)

It basically says that GH will be released on Monday (15th) and that it will be promoted by MAD TV (the most known music tv channel in Greece which unfortunately transmits only in Central Greece).

The price for GH (according to my sources) for Greece will vary from 17-19 euros.

Another strange thing I've noticed is that all the sampler CDs I've come across on ebay are european. They all come from the UK. There's no american promotional CD yet. Looks like nothing has been sent to the US media  ???

I think that this Grestest Hits coming like this may be a sign of the old Gn'R being offically put to rest and it may give Axl a sigh of relaxation.

I think that we will hear something from Guns N' Roses this Summer for sure... but hey who is to say what anymore?

THe greatest hits package failed me a little because I mean Estranged was left off... but as far as hits go... here are Gn'R's top hits by the book so please don't be a fool and argue... okay?

Live and Let Die
Don't Cry
Welcome to the Jungle
Sweet Child O' Mine
Paradise City
Patience
November Rain
You Could Be Mine

Now those are the 8 top 40 hits of Gn'R and they all are included at least that makes sense. The other 6 tracks on the GH album are just good songs off records like SPA and Sympathy for the Devil. Thank you... I'm not from Europe I can spell...

I doubt that, it's been advertised quite a lot over here in Europe.



/jarmo

Does anyone know what the for sure release date of the greatest hits cd is?

yeah.... dont listen to all the other dates you see in this thread! it is the 17th march.... ;p

well i guess it's sort of good news that the gn'r greatest hits over at amazon is listed as out of stock. wonder how well this will sell? or maybe amazon just screwed up, here is the link.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/ix=music&rank=%2Bpsrank&fqp=binding%018%02is-popular%01yes%02keywords%01%22guns%20n%27%20roses%22&nsp=score%01proj-unit-sales&sz=10&pg=2/ref=s_m_np/002-7015149-1987233

I guess it varies from where you live... It 'll be released in Ireland tomorrow (friday) according to snakepit.org (news section). Universal still lists: "Release Date: Mar 23, 2004".

It's definitely released in Ireland tomorrow (friday). Go to www.goldendiscs.ie and look at the new releases section at the bottom of the page. Then click on the GH cover.

I might pick it up 2moro or saturday and see for sure if its remastered!

released Monday 15th March in UK, it said in Kerrang.

Hey guys,  why are some people saying thay have "sample" GH ?

I bought GH this tuesday, I am looking at it right now. Am I the first one who has it or this is something else (that sample thing)?

Where do you live and where did you buy it?

A sampler is a CD containing a few tracks of the album that is sent to the media as promotion.

I'm from Croatia (hope you know where it is)
No, I don't have promo CD.

I have Greatest Hits.

Should I say something about it or should I go to sleep?

Yea man shit, why not?

Give us your impressions and/or review for the album. Ill like to hear 'em.

So, I bought it on tuesday in Zagreb, but I didn't take my discman there, so I couldn't listen to it. It was kinda strange, just looking at it, and not being able to hear neither one song.

I was listening to it a bit about 3 hours ago for the first time. Some people were saying about remastered tracks, but I can't hear any difference except MAYBE the volume is higher. Much likely it isn't.

It's in that cardbord, paper shit. And...
there is no booklet.
I was hoping for fancy booklet with pictures, band history and lyrics but no...
Live ERA had a great one.
Inside there is a grey picture of Axl and Slash when they were still capable of hugging each other. And then, there is a list of songs+from which album are they+lineup.
And who wrote songs.

CD itself is silver with some lines like it's scrached. Behind CD is a picture of a band (original lineup of course) standing behind AFD logo.

There are also little pictures of GNR albums and then comes another shit.
AFD is written incorect. It says "AppetitIe". with one extra "I".

In general, GNR deserves much better Greatest Hits than this. And it's not just because of  bad tracklist.

And yes, there isn't any Chinese Democracy info. (Some people were hoping for that. In the future let's just hope they spell album titles right.)

I am dying of embarassment.   :crying:

There was a thread earlier about how the GNR t-shirts for Madison Square Garden also had typos...

Is it so hard to run spell check before officially releasing something?!  :rant:

Way to fucking go...I was expecting that when I remembered the "booklets" for the DVDs...And Appetite spelled wrong huh? That's a good one. Thanx for the review. Too bad they didn't even try..;

Thanks for your review Damir (yes I know where Croatia is  ;D ).

That's what I thought when I heard the sampler CD : no remastering , so no surprise for me ;)

The spelling mistake really sucks  :no:  Are all the people working at Geffen illiterate or what? They could at least put a minimum effort into it  :rant:

Well...... that was anticlimatic, oh well. You'd think a booklet would be standard issue, bastards.

On the promotional note, I can't believe the amount of advertising I'm seeing. TV ad during Champions League game prime time, full page ad in Kerrang and other magazines.

Kerrang are running a huge story on GNR in next weeks issue in the UK to correspond with GH, with full cover picture of the old band aswell as GNR week on Kerrang TV. I can't remember the last time i saw them on the front of Kerrang!

If any of this GH bullshit is to do with raising awareness of GNR again before CD, then they're doing a good job!

@#$%Muther

yeah, that's true. It's a fake. I mean an standard real album has always a booklet and not any grammer faults like "AppetitIe".

Camden Town London


(http://hem.bredband.net/jarmo/yabb/temp/GH-ad-london1.jpg)


(http://hem.bredband.net/jarmo/yabb/temp/GH-ad-london2.jpg)

(http://hem.bredband.net/jarmo/yabb/temp/GH-ad-london3.jpg)

Thanks for the pics! :D


Looks like this album is promoted a lot more than Live Era was.

Ads in magazines, tv, that one in London....


Plus all the publicity it got from the protests.  :hihi:


/jarmo

woaaa woaaa woaaa!!!

I want that poster for in my room  :D


ooh, and notice the Chinese restaurant next to it   :rofl:

I know we all dont want the GH cd but that advertisment is pretty sharp. it said it comes out monday but i could not read what else it said.  8)

Nice pictures Graciela! I'll have to look out for those around Birmingham, UK.

I think this is a hell of a lot of promotion. Go to http://www.nme.com/features/107805.htm (http://www.nme.com/features/107805.htm) to win the entire Guns N' Roses CD and DVD back catalogue in celebration!  : ok:

It wouldn't surprise me if that Croatian Cd is fake, I'm Serbian, and from visiting there often, it's nothing new. That area of europe seems to have a fake version of every CD before it's out.  ::)

@#$%Muther

Haven't seen that ad but GH is out (in Finland at least)

I guess what mysteron said about Sanctuary trying to stop GH didn't work.

Mysteron- what going to happen now? Do you have an update of the direction GNR will go now? Will this now delay once again CDs release?

Just the date, 15th March 2004. Sorry that trolley was in the way

And I heard an ad for greatest hits on u.k. radio today (personally i didn't hear any ads for live era), didn't catch the station but it was exciting just to hear GNR on the radio again. Then they played Knockin' on Heaven's Doos, bonus!

Maybe your part of Europe my friend...

Btw. Ain't It Fun is censored. No "cunt"

Bought myself a copy two hours ago. Sort of disappointing package but still it was very nice to and buy a new GNR product. It's almost like a habit already... first it was 1993, then again in 1999 and yet again in 2004.

Everything is like #dAMIr says, and mine isn't fake. The only new thing really is the wrong spelling in Appetite and the missing "cunt" in Ain't It Fun. Funny how there still is "Yep, we're fucked" in Since I Don't Have You, though. They couldn't even censor it right!

Um....


How the FUCK do you mispell "Appetite?"

The only reason the word "cunt" has been censored, is because it is the one word that best describes the motherfucker who thought this release was a good idea.

And the disrespect for GNR continues.

First the release of the steaming piles of shit DVDs. Now this.

Next week Gn'R are on the front cover of Kerrang (the old band) with an article "Gn'R - where did it all go wrong?" - thats pretty good promotion for the Greatest Hits.

Here's what the GH thing looks like. We've seen the cover and the back so I didn't include them. But here's the third part of the front face of the digipak, and the inside of it. There's also a close-up of the "Appetitie".

Don't mind the cat hairs in these scans.

This link takes to a large picture (http://www.kotiposti.net/axe00/GH.jpg)

seems as if the greatest hits is getting much better promotion than even the tour. Maybe they are starting the full court press promotion for cd now?

My part of Europe is the UK. I have been to Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Hungary, slovenia, and in all those countries you can find fake cds everywhere.

Not in my part of europe, your part of europe.  ;)

@#$%Muther

Don't know if anyone's already said this, but I saw an ad for the CD on TV (England) this evening, which kinda shocked me, as...welll...Guns N' Roses on tv...

Why does everyone look up to Mysteron so much?  He probaly doesn't know shit.  He probaly knows just some dumb shit at a radio station that doesn't know shit either exept for rumours.

Another bullshit release from the world of GN'R.  I'm just full of negativity these past few weeks.  I'm tired of no NEW releases I mean come on give us some sort of break!

haha - how many times can you use the word shit in 1 sentence  ::)

I believe Mysteron has gained some amount of trust on this board.  His updates make no sense to me, but he doesnt appear to be someone who spreads shitty rumors.

What does the actual disc look like?

Man, I have never seen fake CD in my life. I buy CDs in CDstores, not on markets.
The countries you mentioned aren't on the same, how do you say it... degree of development.

peace  :beer:

It looks like this. Click here! (http://www.kotiposti.net/axe00/disc.jpg)

The rainbow effect in the picture comes from the scanner and it's not on the disc. It's plain silver with those "scratches".

Looks kinda crap.........best thing is the rainbow effect from the scanner :rofl:

Do you actually read what I'm saying?
 
1). I didn't say you had seen a fake album or bought one. I'm not talking bout what you've done.  ::)
2). I said you can get fake CDs there, and you more or less confirmed it by your comments about markets, so it's possible to get one.
3). I have bought a fake CD in Croatia. What more do I have to do to tell you they exist?  ::)

@#$%Muther

I was just looking at this site and it has the GH cd (it states that it was just realeased) so I thought I'd pass it along. There is no listing for GH at Amazon yet. Anyway, have a great day......

GH (US Version) is also available for download at iTunes.com.  I got Sympathy for the Devil from it yesterday.

Odd, yet probably meaningless.

 ;D

I just bought the greatest hits here in ireland. It cost 20 euro. The packaging is quite nice but the cd looks shit. Cant really tell if its remastered?

HAHAHA ! : ok:

I will never, ever buy this thing....

I bought the cd in Holland today. I like the "scratched" cd. Still is something nice to add to my gn'r collection  :)

What's up with the credits?  All of a sudden WTTJ, Sweet Child, Paradise City and Patience aren't written by Guns N' Roses anymore...
Jeffrey Isbell, Saul Hudson, Michael McKagan???  They weren't in Guns N' Roses.  If the bassist in your band is called Michael, and the guitarist called Jeffrey then you're not the most dangerous band in the world, you're the most stuck up band in the world.
And I still can't get over the fact that they spelled Appetite wrong...

Fucking corporate fucks

This is the first official Guns release in a long time, and they dont even bother to proofread the final product or respect the guys who made it - Izzy, Slash and Duff to name a few.

Dont you get the feeling that there's someone in there (the record label I mean) deliberately fucking things up?   :confused:

... yeah, I know, stop listening to Out ta get me before I become too paranoid...

no fuckin shit! this gh is just turning into one big laughing stock man, just cause my life is boring these days, i'm agreeing on the conspiracy theory going on here, as random says, they're definitely out to get me.


rock n' roll

Yeh i noticed the writing credits thing.  I was thinking perhaps it's a result of all the law suits and legal shit that we hear has been going on? Strange though....bit silly really.
Note how they didn't dare write William Bailey lol  

Anyway i'm looking forward to tomorrow seeing a new GNR record in stores.  I wonder how many of the people who are against it will end up buying it  ;D Hope it does resonably well(top 20 would be decent considering) , it will have served some purpose then perhaps.

Not thumbing through every section of this thread............ so I do not know if this has been posted:

http://www.universalmusicworld.com/ecard/gnr/two.htm#

a promotional site.

-5th

So is the albumed Remastered or not? Those who have it, how does it sound?

How about booklet? anything interesting?..

BBC 2 caught me by surprise!

Cool advert - makes me want to buy it!

Classic GnR.

Boring thread - 'yeah i know'.

Anyone seen it?

Greatest Hits promotion reaches AP news stories:

EU Membership Erases Town's WWII Split
AP - 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Guns and roses define this town's postwar history. The guns ? and the border guards who toted them ? are now only a memory. So is the Iron Curtain that split Gorizia between Italy and Yugoslavia after World War II.

 ;)



/jarmo

There was small piece in the Belfast Telegraph called "Roses With Thorns".

It's the usual story of how the band became big and then split. He says that while some of the songs are good some of them shouldn't be on the album.

There are no sleeve notes/booklet! Only writing credits / Spelling errors and far too many cover songs >:(

Greatest Hits out in Germany / TV ad[/u]

I went to a local store and they already had the Greatest Hits album, thought it was kind of cool to see a "new" GN'R album. Paper cd case though.

Later my girlfriend an me were watching tv and joking around in her bed, suddendly I heard November Rain and saw an ad for the Greatest Hits.

Exciting day ;-)

On a postive note I was on play.com and the greatest hits is number 2 on the top 10 best seller and I was in HMV and loads of people picked up a copy. So Geffen did say they were gonna see how this album was gonna do and release Chinese Democracy so hopefully they'll bring it out soon so its a goos sign if the album sells. I live in the UK btw.

Do we want the GH to flop and be able to say.. see I told you so.. it was a load of rubbish?

Or do we want the GH to be a success and be proud of GNR getting back up there for the world to see?

 :-\

I was just watching Tech TV and they aired a commercial for "Greatest Hits".  It was a 30 second spot with WTTJ in the background and a bunch of different pix of the band.  At the end, the slate was for www.musicspace.com (http://www.musicspace.com) .  $15 plus $5 S&H.  

This one.  No matter how much I rant and rave, I want to be proud of GNR (old and new).

I saw a TV commercial for GH on ZTV in Sweden at 7.15 pm (in the middle of Simpsons  ;D) today.

Quick question about the GH.  Is the version of KOHD from UYI or is it from the Days of Thunger (is that the right film ) soundtrack with Adler on drums?

someone said that KOHD is the Days of Thunger version..

No, he said he had heard the Days of Thunder-version on radio and the DJ talked about GH.

There's no need to make fun of the fact that my fingers aren't co-ordinated enough to press the right keys, and i'm too lazy to press the modify button.

Come on, someone who bought this album must have listened to KOHD by now.

KOHD is the normal album version. I wish they had edited the "rank subjugation" phone call out of it. It's stupid.

I just saw an 800 number style commercial for Greatest Hits on E!.
I hadn't seen any ads yet in the US... so I guess it's official now.
Was one of those trashy kinda ads... 1 great band, amazing songs, hits like Jungle, blah, scenes from all the videos.
Call now and get a limited edition poster. All yours for $15.95.

I still cant get over the credits.. Michael McKagan?

Does anyone have ANY idea how this came about?

Its insane!

It's commonly known as demeaning the former bandmates, and however great I think the new band is, the writing credits  are a slap in the face and it sucks..

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,4-2004121848,00.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,4-2004121848,00.html)

GH has sold 25,000 copies on Monday,and is on course for the No.2 chart spot in the UK.

So we think Axl ordered this Live-Era "additional musicians" style? Even though he didnt authorise the package at all?

Thats great news.. thanks DazRose.. how good would it have been to see a GUNS N' ROSES at number 1 again!!!

lol...sorry! to tell the truth I didn't even notice that thing and I wasn't trying to make fun by any means..I just copy pasted your "Days of Thunger" because I was too lazy  to write it down (when you can just copy and paste it.)   :P  :peace:

One ex belongs to me now  :)

lol! Tawain gets a 36-page booklet with theirs :-P

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4002493775&category=1057 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4002493775&category=1057)

It's not that. Geffen are the one's who released this on their own. Why would they demean the old members? They certainly don't seem interested in promoting the new band. It's just a shoddy piece of work, end of. Cheap bastards.

@#$%Muther

Bastards !!  :rofl: :rofl:

The album is number 2  on eil.com's albums chart :
http://eil.com/charts/ChartPage.asp?PageId=1&PageNo=1

Then again the BROS Best of is number 5  :hihi:

For me,that's great.And people want good rnr band,and only gnr could  do that!

That's cool. It's not new material so I think we can be optimistic for the future sales of "Chinese Democracy". Rock Music is re-becoming a mainstream in the music industry day by day. It is time to release CHIN DEM, we are not in 1999 anymore, today in 2004, Rock n' Roll sell better and is really more popular.

Greatest Hits always sell well, but LIVE ERA is such a better album than GH that i can't belive it sold poorly...

Anyway good news though :)

I think Greatest Hits have better selling because people knows that GH is the last record of Guns and Roses and that will be nothing in the future released under name Guns And Roses. It's end of Guns and Roses. Dou you like it or not,  You should accept it because there is whole truth.

I think Greatest Hits have better selling because people knows that GH is the last record of Guns and Roses and that will be nothing in the future released under name Guns And Roses.


Um.....what the hell do u call Guns N Roses now.......The Hermit Boys ::)

Anyone got any figures? I know GH sold 130,000 in the first week in the UK to reach no.2 (George Michael sold 230,000 to be no.1). Are you talkin US?

@#$%Muther

It's fucking nr.1 in Norway and all over the tv.

It's\ (they?) less popular than the illusions days though but this is a long waited flashback and a requested band in norway\ since the rock scene has been really lame lately IMO

but with brides and vr debuting and gnr reloading it looks like we're in for a treat in near time to follow

so...

WAKE UP FUCKERS! and you know the rest, don't you?

Do we really need so many threads on the GH?

There is only so many times i can pretend to be intrested in how a lazy GH is selling.....

ok, I decided to play GH in my computer. I am using music match to play it. I don't know if it's music match misspelling the track listings, but here's how some of them are spelled:

Welcome to SE Jungle
SWEAT Child o' Mine
Don't CREI
Live and LETS Die

Somebody please, PLEASE tell me this is music match and NOT the cd.

lol..I would hope it's music match   ;D

We had a thread (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=11240) about it a few days ago.

Personally, I think the guy who added the songs to the online database where your program gets the song titles from, made a few typos.


/jarmo

I bought the greatest hits this week. It's the best 9 bucks i've spent on music in a long time. The record company is doing this to break axl's nuts, and i don't blame them. GNR was a cash cow. Can you imagine the lost revenue over the last 12 years? The record company is in business to make money, not lose it. The live album should have come out a year or two after the illusions tour. The lost sales on live era alone are unbelieveable. My point is the record company was not about to wait for axl to re-record the vocals and take his sweet ass time as he always does. Every person who has left the CD project has said that axl is reluctant to do the vocals, and that he is preocupied with re-recording the old material. I'm glad the record company stepped in and released the old music in it's pure form.

On a slight side-note... the Welcome To The Videos DVD has climbed to the top spot on the UK Music DVD charts : ok:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/top40/dvdvideo.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/top40/dvdvideo.shtml)

The Greatest Hits has slipped to No.3 in the UK charts with George Michael at No.2 and Usher now at No.1

no. 3 is still very respectable. I wonder how the Greatest Hits will affect the future sales of appetite and the rest of the albums? I would imagine that the casual music buyer would opt for a greatest hits.

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but we all know about all of the complaining that has gone on about the tracklisting for the "Greatest Hits." Well maybe these 14 songs actually are GN'Rs  greatest hits.  Sure they are not all of their best songs but this is not called the "Best of Guns N' Roses."  Just something to think about.

I'd rather have a million page thread on Chinese Democracy.  Pray it comes out this year.

I honestly think it comes out this year. I think that the Greatest Hits was always part of the plan. The only way to get away with it though was the lawsuit thing. It only benefits Axl, not to mention Slash and Duff. But for Axl to come out with a greatest hits that he authorized at this point he would be crucifed, even more than he alrady is. Imagine, ten years in the making and he chooses to release a greatest hits? Buuut, if he doesn't agree with it then they can release it and it looks like it was against his will. It serves it's purpose and gets evryone thinking about Guns n Roses right before Rio. Of course, what about the hard-core fans? Well, nothing but Chinese Democracy will satisfy us at this point. So Axl and co. bite the bullet and just wait a little longer, thinking, well, they waited this long, why not a little longer, so that we can release this "greatest hits" and get public interest going again. Yeah it's hastily thrown together but that goes along with the whole idea...a proper greatest hits after ten years on a new album? The only reason is to renew interest. I mean, it's been a damn long time and people still love the music, they just need a reminder.  This is only a theory,but this greatest hits will benefit all those involved, they just don't want to look like it was their idea.

From INDY at the GNR strip
 GUNS N'ROSES #3 in the US
? on: March 29, 2004, 02:22:06 PM ?  

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CHART DATE: 03/29/2004
LAST UPDATE: 03/29/2004 11:54:53 (Pacific Time)NOW IN: 43.96%

-- 1 USHER LAFACE/ARISTA 537,285 CONFESSIONS
-- 2 NOW 15 EMINENT 136,112 VARIOUS
-- 3 GUNS N'ROSES GEFFEN 108,715 GREATEST HITS
-- 4 CARL THOMAS BAD BOY/UNIVERSAL 69,965
-- 5 N.E.R.D. VIRGIN 56,739 FLY OR DIE

awesome!

exceeding my expectations now axl roll out the new shit!

NO shit if this isnt a motivational tool, I dont know what si......World wide for gods sake.........get that fuckin CD out!

we'veall bitched and complained petitioned etc etc

but i honestly think now the greatest hits although a shit tracklisting this  was an excellent idea

axl has confidence problems, this proves that guns n roses are still a major name, debuting at number 3 is amazing
i have so many friends buying this cd, a girl i know even stole her moms credit card to order it off tv

the time is now for chinese democracy, gnr sold 108,000 with no new songs,videos etc etc

imagine a great single,video etc etc, c.d. would sell a shitload of copies!

so does everyone agree now that this debut may boost axls confidence enough to show him that now is the time to release cd?

or do u think it was still a bad idea

Fucking cool.  :smoking:

I wonder where that prediction about GNR/NERD sales being similar came from. 108,000 and 56,000 are pretty far apart.

Also, is it to do with the different state of UK and US album sales in general that explains why more copies are sold in a far smaller country?

@#$%Muther

The stats only confirm 43 % of return in right now.......concievably this may go past 200,00 when all tallies are counted.

in most selling serbian newspaper "BLIC",we have little article about Greatest Hits
"Greatest HitsGuns N' Roses-album of the week
I'm downloaded this album from internet,and i can say:if you like gnr,great stuff for yours.If you don't like gnr and know who they are,you will change you attitude.And if you don't like gnr and don't know who they are you will be new fan of the great band"

Since Sympathy For the Devil was not released on a previous GnR album, couldn't the record company when they compiled the songs just have easily put OMG on the cd instead of sympathy  ?

Technically yes, but 'Oh My God' wasn't recorded by that Guns N' Roses and Interscope knew that there'd be a huge backlash...

Also Oh My God sucked, and Sympathy For The Devil didn't.   : ok:

Enough said.

Hey "Oh My God" didn't...wait....compared to the old band? Oh...yea it blew.

you guys suck, Oh My God kicks arse..big time, whats ya prob, the music is filth, the lyrics are fuckin' awsome, it fuckin' rocks man :beer: :beer: :beer: :smoking:

oh my god, you cant deny this!!!!

Yeah! Agree! Oh My God is a killer tune!

I don't know.... perhaps because it is from a different era.
but, in any event it would have been a better choice IMO.
There's already 3 other cover songs on GH
and OMG is kick ass.   : ok:

"Oh My God" would have ruined the GH album. It would have been the "My World" of UYI 2. No need such a mediocre song on a GN'R album.
The GH is fine the way it is. Maybe later we will have a "best of" with more songs.

Well you are right man, Wy World doesnt go with the UYI 2 album, but certainly Oh my god, will perfectly fit, in Chinese Democracy, anyway man, Oh my God, is strong song, really cool if you allow me to say, but the only problem is that weird mix of electronic sounds that suck and ruin the song, the lyrics arent that deep for me, but leads you to great feelings...

IMO as a whole the greatest hits is a "shit" album. I'll tell you why I think that.

Firstly it wasn't approved by anyone from the band, from any era, in fact Duff, Slash and Axl actually banded together to stop it's release!!! that is crazy IMHO for those 3 to agree on something in this day and age. :rant:

Second, all the selection of tracks is the singles they released (excepting 'estranged' prolly cuz of the length of the song, 'It's so easy' prolly cuz of "Why don't you just Fuck Off!!" and 'Nightrain' prolly cuz it's about getting trashed). Not necessarily the "greatest" musical acheivements by the band. :rant: (BTW that's why OMG isn't on there, cuz it was never a single)

Thirdly, over 1/3 of the tracks weren't even written by the band. I mean how weird is that? :rant:

Fourth, It would've been nice to have all 5 orig guys contribute some kinda liner notes or feelings on songs IMO, or a picture booklet (abbreviated picture history or something), or at the very least lyrics, but it's just a folded piece of cardboard with 1 picture. (hell they even use the musicians real names don't they? (Saul Hudson, William Bailey, Michael McKagan, Jeffery Isabel?) What the fuck is that? honestly :rant:

Fifth, it would've been nice to get a b-side or unreleased track or 2 (Crash Diet or Shadow of Your Love or Ain't Goin Down)

The first of my reasons was enough for me to stay clear of it.

I strongly disagree..I would have prefered OMG over Sympathy because that was a shit song to me personally, but I wouldn't be surprised if neither Slash or Axl wanted that song on there either...

My scenario would have OMG as a bonus track..last song (we'll say sympathy) ends, you go to hit the eject or repeat button and all of the sudden that trippy fucking intro hits. The song is so great but wasnt on the radio long enough for the record buying public to really acquire the listenability towards it, however If you take into consideration, the demographic for who purchased GH, and add OMG= instant and great exposure for Axl and the new band.

And then I proceed to hit the eject button and put in Appettite.

I am just curious because, that is probably what we can expect for CD when it finally comes out. Does anyone have a link or idea how many it  has sold thus far? Is it like 6-8 or 8-10m?

honestly the sales wont indicate what we can expect for CD.

What if the single is a dud?

CD will do well out of the boxc but it wont do as well as the GH. Not until CD proves itself with a single or 2.

well ? i don`t know how many copies it sold, but i`d guess around 6-8 millions...

by the way i don`t think you can conclude to the sales that CD might will have....

That is not true since most of the people that bought the GHs were younger kids like 16-21, those who were not old enough to remember gnr or be around for them.  Most people who are 30 and over didnt get it  because they already have all the songs on the albums.

Does anyone know why Estranged wasnt on the Greatest Hits? was it never released as a single?

Because the "Greatest Hits" were chosen by the company and not by the band, which means that they took only the songs that went high on the charts.

it was 10 min long !! took too much place :P

Now Im no expert on the subject, considering I was 2-3 years old when they were huge, but I didnt think Yesterdays was high on the charts, or Aint it Fun... were they?

Surely "Estranged" and "Used to Love Her" would have been a better pick over "Ai't if fun." Wasn't "Estranged" on the radio a lot back in the day?

"Yesterdays"
(Arkeen / James / McCloud / Rose)
Released: November 21, 1992 (UK)

UK Chart peak: 8


"Ain't It Fun"
(Cheetah Chrome/Peter Laughner)
Released: November 20, 1993 (UK)

UK Chart peak: 9


"Estranged"
(Rose)
Released: 1994

UK Chart peak: ?

You can do some research in then main site...

A 10 minute song with lots of air-time? I don't think so... I've never even heard a radio mix of it. They did one for Sweet Child O Mine...

i think it`s positive that there was no radio mix....      the mixes of scom november rain and kohd suck. you just can`t remove a part of a gnr song.

Like them or not, (UN)fortunately radio mixes give bands like GNR more playtime, cause most of their songs are more than 5 minutes (not good for radio producers)...

Lynyrd Skynyrd's Freebird gets tons of radio play, and its just as long as Estranged.  Its a rarity, but it does happen.

Check the bold letters in your post and you'll find my answer...

Free Bird gets tons of airplay where I live and its not a radio mix either. The longer GnR songs like Estranged and November Rain however aren't as heavily rotated as Christos said because of their length but they are in fact played most often on all-request shows or when the mood is perfect : ok:

I've only heard Estraned on the radio a couple times, but I hear November Rain on the radio all the time.  Its one of the most played GN'R songs on the radio around here (NY/NJ area).

November Rain is considered a classic these days, no wonder they're playing it too much. Besides, don't forget that back in the days they had a radio mix to play... which sucked big time,  but REALLY helped GNR get more radio time...

I heard 'Patience' on the biggest mainstram radio station in Australia the other day... what makes it even better is that it was at school when I heard it on there. Ive heard November Rain on a rock station once and its cut short, and also the video was on a few weeks ago, cut short.  >:(

 :peace:

if bands like gnr want more playtime they should release 5 mins songs. otherwise they don`t seem to need more playtime.  i don`t know what you think but imo it`s better to not play estranged on the radio, than cutting 5 mins off.

I don't get it... Can't you read? I said (UN)fortunately... What else do I need to say?

The sad truth is that radio stations do not work the way YOU or I want them to. I've seen dj's cut songs short just cause they're too lengthy.

I know radio stations that refuse to play long songs. This is the situation and everybody knows it. It's always been like that. It's not gonna change for any band. Yes, some might make a few exceptions, but as I said earlier thats a rarity.

I hate the Greatest Hit's CD. It' basically just has songs that everybody has already heard and get's radio play non-stop (not that that's a bad thing) but I made my own lil' mix of hits.

 .....you can`t read unfortunately without the word fortunately : ok:

since i`m able to read and even to think about what i read, i conclude from your posts that you don`t like radio mixes of gnr songs (or songs in general), because they destroy the songs, BUT you think it`s a good way to help long singles to get more airplay.     

i meant that for a band that wants to have a succesful single, it`s easier to get airplay by releasing a 4 mins song, than releasing a 10 mins single that gets cut, or doesn`t even get any airplay. but this is not what you meant i guess......

in my last sentence, i referred to your "like them or not" and thought you might actually like them....but as i wasn`t quite sure i wrote "i don`t know what you think" :beer:

70   86   82   Guns N' Roses, Greatest Hits  2
Geffen | 001714 | Interscope | (16.98)



I found this pretty wierd, cool , yet Im not sure what cause this jump, this is for next weeks billboard, I was just checkin the charts on the web, and GH jumped 16 places. People may note know whats goin on or what the state of the band is, but clearly, people are liking it. 86 fuckin weeks this has been on the charts.

IT pales of course in comparrison to say Pink Floyds Dark side, but damn, its time to unlease CD, obviously the music buying public are interested.

Can anyone tell me how close the Greatest Hits is to selling 3million?  It seems like it has been on 2million for ever.  It has to be pretty close.   It's been in the top 100 for over a 103 weeks.  Anyone? ???

according to this Blabbermouth article, http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=49140 it reached 2.79 million by March 5.

Who cares of US sales only? come on, speak global, worldwide sales.
I heard worldwide sales are close to 7 million copies. :peace:

107th week! :D

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?f=The+Billboard+200&pageNumber=Top+51-100&g=Albums

88th position (down 1 from last week).

not bad at all......

Last I heard it was on 2.81 million. So it needs less then 200 hundred thousands to get to 3 mil.  It will eventually believe me.  It would almost be impossible for it not to go considering they have a new album coming out and that will boost it.  I believe it sells anywhere between 15,000-20,000 a week.  So I say by the end of the summer, if not before, it will be for sure.

86 95 Guns N' Roses Greatest Hits
Geffen   |  001714   |  Interscope
    Peak:3 RIAA2 Wks On:109 

86th (up 9 from last week), pretty cool! Soon it'll be triple platinum!

73 75 Guns N' Roses Greatest Hits
Geffen   |  001714   |  Interscope
    Peak:3 RIAA3 Wks On:111 

Triple platinum, it's official! :beer:

Simply amazing.  :yes:

Geffen / Interoscope sure've made some of that 13 million investment (Chinese Democracy) back.

                    I suppose selling 3 million albums of old material has made Geffen decide it was time for " Greatest Hits : Vol.2" now. Might as well make all the money we can off Guns n Roses.  ;)

Wow, amazing.. Have I understood right, last week it was #73?

http://billboard.com/bbcom/charts/chart_display.jsp?f=The+Billboard+200&pageNumber=Top+51-100&g=Albums




edit: fixed link

cool they love the old stuff :peace:

More impressive than that is it's still on the charts 111 weeks later!!!

Well deserved!!

And it'll probably be in the charts a for a long while to come if the tour goes well  : ok:

I'm still dying to know who is still buying this album, how do they know about it..? I use to go to the mall a lot and local record stores and always check the gnr bin for new stuff since the net wasn't around and you weren't as informed.. I wonder if it's partly impulse buying..

I think a lot of is impulse buying, i see it on endcaps for 10 bucks all the time, which makes it pretty easy to pick up if you don't already own the songs on other cds. I personally don't own it since i have everything else, but i can see average jow liking it a lot.

looks like it's been the longest one in the chart too!!!
has it never left the top 100 ??