Here Today... Gone To Hell!

OK, I don't know if this is political or not, but yea...

What is everyone's opinion of the Illuminati.... why is their symbol on the back of the dollar? Why do they do what they do?

And are you comfortable knowing that maybe someone is controlling your mind?

How would you like it if you found out that the only reason you like Guns N' Roses is because of something that the Illuminati have done?

You'll probably say "oh, well if they made me like GN'R, they can't be all bad, right!?"

Think again.

Its remarkably easy to drum a thought into people's minds... just go to advertizing! People recognize the logos of companies. They recognize the slogans.

If that's so easy, how bout this:

What if the break up of the original Gn'R was all down to the Illuminati? Drumming negative and paranoid thoughts into the bandmembers' minds... making them think in certain ways...  :nervous:

If you think about how long the Illuminati have been around, its quite plausible. And fucking scary.

... makes me wanna go start a rebellion, track down all members of the Illuminati and forcing information outta them so I know what they've been doing to us all and most importantly WHY!!!? :nervous: :rant:

World domination? Or just because someone a thousand years ago was a complete psychopath and started a cult? >:( Fuckers!

PS: Don't be trolls, don't flame me, this is a serious thread OK!

I'm pretty sure of one thing. If anybody is controlling my mind, they're wasting their time, so they're not exactly benefitting.

This reminds me of the movie, "They Live".

I don't believe groups like the Illuminati exist anymore. It's kind of archaic. But it is interesting to think about.

I logged onto Wikipedia to see what it was all about, and ended up drifting on that site for about an hour  :hihi:


The idea of an New World Order seems pretty interesting. Weird to think AIDS is supposedly man made to downsize the human race  :-\

heh, that was the movie with the "I'm all out of bubblegum" quote, right?  :hihi:

I think the symbol on the back of the dollar is related to the Freemason group that many of the Founding Fathers were rumored to have belonged to. 

Yeah that's the one. Also has the best fight scene in the history of film.  :hihi:

Can I guess?

Did you just finish reading Angels and Demons?  :hihi:

look for illuminati, skulls and bones, bohemians and opus dei.

Various organisations like free masonnery, order of malta and order of Lazarus ( usually still need to be a noble in order to be of malta)  etc have links with the above.

Also, many politicians of today have noble roots, so if you do genealogy like i do, you will find out that today's power and yesterday's power was ALWAYS in the same hands ( families).

Especially when we speak in terms of economy and politics.

The elite was the elite and still is.

Oh, and most of the elite is catholic btw.

Apart from the few who are there because they are sickly rich ( even the most important nobles need someone to sick their cheques sometimes)...

Yea, those families.... Onassis, Rockefeller, Kennedy, and Li are all there... there are 13 families though, and then 4 connected families, including the names Disney, and McDonald.

Creepy ain't it.

And apparantly all those families have to interbreed to keep the families pureblood.... ugh!!

No wonder they all want world domination!! They're all fucking crazy because their parents and their parents before them went off and married their cousins!! :puke:

SG really now.... what sparked this one off.... angles and demons?......

Exactly what I said.

Now, let's all create a new thread to discuss whether Mary Madalen was married to Jesus or not. Shall we?  :hihi:

I know what sparked this off....... it must be national treasure..... that Nic cage movie......


ok a serious note on it............... the eye is considered to be that of the creator of the universe...... "god" ...... the latin slogan comes from this "Novus Ordo Seclorum altered from Magnus Soeclorum Ordo", which means, "a mighty order of the ages born anew".

lets see....... a country of new ideas and ideals, in a "new world". not a hard stretch to say maybe just maybe it could refer to a new way for humanity to think compared to that of the old world.

Two words: Bohemian Grove.  There is some freaky shit going on there.

As for the Illuminati/Freemason symbol on the back of the dollar, the unfinished pyramid stands for something that is always improving and is never finished.  The eye at the top is a symbol of divine guidance.  So our country is divinely guided and always getting better.

I believe this is a condition known as "megalomania" when it's found in individual people.

We're the LOW ART GLOOMINATI
and we aim to depress
the SCABARET SACRILEGENDS
this is the Golden Age of Grotesque
We're the LOW ART GLOOMINATI
and we aim to depress
the SCABARET SACRILEGENDS
This is the Golden Age of Grotesque


best song on his last cd

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Nope :no: actually my BF was watching TV, and he was flippin' through the channels, saw this Conspiracies program, put it on, and watching it has freaked me out bigtime! :hihi:

Sky One? I saw that when it debuted, I think. Is it the one that they spend half the show setting up an interview that then falls apart? Rubbish! The show was all right, just... Typical Sky One (lazy).

Both my father and uncle are masons.  My uncle is very high in the masons and scottish rite.  Neither of them are part of any conspiracy to rule the world.  But I guess all that conspiracy stuff makes for good tv.

How come illuminati got so popular? Da vinci code right?

An ancestor of mine was grand master of the british order of malta in the 19's.

Illuminati are in conjuction with the Free Masons aren't they? They weren't originally a satanic cult as members such as Galileo Galilei thought religion are science tell the same stories in different languages. The Vatican begged to differ. Illuminati went underground and set up a network through europe and the rest of the world. they were the new world order. thats what the Nuevo ordo seclorum but the guy who came up with that line told Roosevelt is meant New Deal.

No, Angels and Demons.

The secret society which became popular through Da Vinci Code was Priory of Sion.


I do believe the Illuminati existed one day, but I think they don't anymore.

popular for the mainstream 50 years old bored housewife ... they've always been popular ...
you know when something hit a book like da vinci code and dan brown's ... it really means that it reached a point where no one care anymore ....


:)

I meant MORE popular. I for instance had never heard of them.

Onassis?...no, because aristotle onassis was not born into money, he was middle class..., so to suggest that the Onassis family were always rich is wrong

Kennedy?...before the 20th century, there is little to suggest that any of the Kennedys were born in power or with money, especially the Kennedy name itself

Rockefeller was a travelling salesman in his early life, not rich

and as for the McDonalds...which ones? It is one of the most common names in scotland

this subject is like those people who foretell the future, its either vague or made up...cos the average person isnt smart enough to check the facts

Kennedy comes from some Fitzxxxxx "can't remember which fitz" irish family who descend from royal families of england AND ireland.

Genealogy is my thing btw.

Some actual macdonalds are would be heirs to the throne of Scotland.

Onassis is what i said, one of the sickly rich, even though some married into the greek lineage of the british royals.

The Kennedys are linked to the Fitzgeralds.  Joseph Kennedy was the son of former Boston Mayor John "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald.

Thanks you.

But i was also mentionning other Fitz people, because they were the first kings in england, before the nordes and the normans.

Basically, extremely ancient family in europe ( sadly).

Also, kennedys in Great britain have often been murderers and didn't have many friends ( although they had castles, in scotland and ireland) and have been known to kill women and sometimes, kids.
They do have a few green ladies on their lands.

Yeah, I never heard about those Prior of Sion of illuminati before Angels and demons and the da vinci code before those books, not that they are important or something.. 

should the priory of sion exist, they fight AGAINST the illuminati, they try to keep and protect " the secret" from the catholics.

mmm in my opinion, I dont know if they exist or not, but if they do, they are wasting their time, cause catholics themselves dont really care about their own religion.

well, it's not about religion, it's about power and money, and the vatican is one of the biggest power and fortune of the globe and they made it on lies, therefore, should anything or anyone threaten their position...................

One thing I do believe is that they have a secret society or something like that inside the Vatican. And I don't blame the Catholics for being ignorants, I blame the Pope and the Vatican!
I'm not an atheist, I do believe in God, but I find it impossible to believe in a book which has been changed so many times in so many different ways throughout the years. Nothing the Vatican says or does will directly affect me. Although... I did meet the Pope himself.? :hihi:

which Pope? Benedict XVI or Juan Pablo Segundo(John paul the second or two  ;D)

Benedict XVI.

I think it would be a lot nicer if it was John Paul II

Definitely,  John Paul II, "seemed" to be more tender and more accesible to the crowds or maybe it was a charade and he was the king/president/dad of the illuminati.  :hihi:

Back to the topic, all these secret societies seem to be really weird and bizarre. I once met a guy who said he was the "leader" of this young mason society "The Demolays" (have you guys heard of them?) I spent a long time and money trying to be part of the society, before realizing its a waste of efforts. They will take a lot of your money before you are in, and once you are in, they will keep on taking it.

Its not what the history books say

Onassis
A poor foreigner on his own in Buenos Aires, he worked for 25 cent an hour as an operator for the telephone company, learning languages by eavesdropping on calls. He gradually entered the tobacco import business, started making big money, and by 1930 was a millionaire.

As for the Kennedys Im not sure that a City Mayor would be in any position to tell anyone what to do...besides descended from pre-norman england? do you know how many people that amounts to? 2 children every 50 years makes 1,000,000+ and thats just one couple...so there are probably quite a lot out there that are descended from these times, not exactly an elite

the heir to the throne of Scotland (that does not exist) is a position of power?...i very much doubt it....besides there are probably over 10,000 people that are descended from possible heirs to the throne over the years...I just happen to be a MacDonald and i know my clans history fairly well and ive never heard of anything like that before...does that mean i have a claim on being the King of Scotland?   

sorry im very much a sceptic

Lol, if you want to thin out the human herd, all you gotta do is westernize everybody.  Look at modern South Korea, 1.08 children per women(you need 2.1 just for replacement).  That is probably the lowest in recorded history.  Germany, Italy, Japan, all these countries just don't want to fuck and have kids anymore.   :no:

The Pentavaret > The Illuminati

Well, it's a well known fact, Sunny Jim, that there's a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentaveret, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows

The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee *beady* eye! And that smug look on his face, "Oh, you're gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!"

Another brilliant and insightful thread.  Been listening to Art Bell and the other late night talk radio freaks?

God I bloody hope you're not being sarcastic Gilld....

Or what?  You run and cry to a mod again?

you guys are forgetting the bielderberg group.      ever hear of them.     of all secret societes, these guys are the most evil in my eyes.    quick run down of bielderberg.     meet once a year, for three days, at a different location every year.   i think every four years they meet in the US.     it is said that behind these closed doors they decide what will happen for the rest of the year, or the next year.      examples maybe?   War, 9-11      things like that.     and yeah, bash me if you want, but i believe that there were bombs in the WTC, and that is what caused the collapse.     witnesses, firefighters, janitors, other workers have come forward about hearing these explosions, yet the mainstreem media dosent cover that since the mainstreem media is in the pockets of these groups.   look at the tape of the twin towers falling.  it looks like a goddamn demolition.   

most president in the US have been affiliated with secret societes.   

George W. Bush - Skull and bones and Bohemian Grove
Bill Clinton - Bielderberg
George H.W. Bush - Skull and bones and Bohemian grove
Ronald Regan - no known group, rumors say member of some form of Freemasonry, maybe the Scottish Rite (Bullshit probably)
Jimmy Carter - Trilateral Commision
Richard Nixon - Bohemian Grove

John Kerry who ran in 2004, Skull and Bones.   His running mate John Edwards, no known group until 2004.      When he went to the Bielderberg metting, the same year of the election!     strange huh?     


onto a different topic, you can buy Freemasonic books on ebay.   very rarely do you find an actual Lodge Manual.   but i did.   its from the 50's, from a North Carolina Lodge.    and there really isnt anything in that book that would lead you to a vast conspiracy on the Masons part.       i also have books by a group called the Rosicrucians.     the books are Mysteries of Osiris: Ancient Egyptian Initiation    and Compendium of Occult Laws.      great reads and extremly rare.    paid alot for them.        in Mysteries it says that Atlantis (the lost continent) did in fact exist.    and kind of like Sodom and Gomarah (spelling?)  it was overrun with sin and eventually fell into the sea.     


the so called Illuminati existed in the 1700's.   formed by a guy named Adam Weishap (spelling)      he and the group were eventually forced out of Germany.   who knows what happened after that, nobody knows.   


the point is people need to wake up!!!!!    all around the world, but more so in America since so many people are dumbed down by tv.     the only thing stronger than a govermnent, is its people.    and people thinking for themselves is not what any government wants.        personally i think someone needs to try and infiltrate the Bielderberg group, and if that fails, grab a rocket launcher and use it.       these guys dont deserve to live anyway, since they are responsible for millions of deaths anyway.       oh, wishful thinking though.      nobody really cares.     except for a small group of conspiracy nuts like yours truly.       bash my opinions if you like i dont care, but in thirty years when the Fourth Reich rises and we are living in a New World Order, dont come crying to me.    ill be living fourty feet below see level in a bunker. ;D           

wow stepping up a little fast there today guild?

hehe

This AZ heat is making me fiesty!

::) I don't "run and cry" to mods. I just report harassment.

anyone got a pram handy?

A mod is here (albeit a fairly rubbish one).


There's nothing wrong with this thread at all, so leave SkynyrdGirl alone or i'll smite you so hard it'll make your nose bleed.

Are you threatening me, Cornholio?!

I read my post again and it does seem that way.? Respect the HTGTH family and we'll have no problems. ;)