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Ive read a lot of shit about robin on the board, personally im a huge fan of the guy, he plays with great feeling and his stage presence is amazing.

Ive read a lot of people say he has improved a lot since the 02 tour, i for 1 believe that and respect the fact that he's probably put a lot of hard practice in from 02 - 06.

Im just curious to see how many people like/dislike him, simple yes or no and maybe a sentance explaining your answer............(i sound like a school teacher dont i lol)

a BIG YES on Robin.


btw, I think your topic will soon be mooved to the Dead Horse section :)

yes  :D

well i figured it would be an easy read for everyone, simple yes or no and a short sentance y, that way there no big lectures from everyone and the posts will be readable. give it a few days mods  ;)

YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


N' I A BIG FUCK YOU TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SUDDENLY LIKE HIM 'CAUSE HE FITS IN NOW :yes: :yes: :yes:


yes............im a big fan of the SKULLET :peace: :peace: :peace:

Yes, with a copy paste of what i already said on another forum :

Robin has a lot more charisma than slash, he has a poetic presence ( makes sense to me) whereas slash was just some curls and a hat soloing for HOURS and getting as lost into his solos as he was into jack daniels.

I'm sorry to say Slash always bored the shit out of me and he was boring to watch.

So even if his " tzzoings" are the best in the world ( i am not qualified to speak, but compared to blackmore or paco de lucia, i can't see the hype ?), he was a BO RING.

Robin is endlessly watchable..He is this way..When he plays, people want to join him in his world.

He is love ( universally speaking).

I am not a Finck worshipper, but I guess I would have to say yes. His playing on The Blues is phenomenal, and he must be capable of doing something magical. Unfortunately, The Blues has been changed, and Finck doesn't get to shine as much on the new version. It is now more of a piano ballad. Lets hope other songs have not had a similar overhaul. His live work isn't very impressive, but thats a whole other dead horse topic in itself, and as long as he delivers the goods in the studio, that's all that matters.

nice, 100% positive feedback so far

YES :peace:

Yes, without a doubt, yes. ? :beer:

If it wasn't for the brilliant guitar playing May12th at the Hammerstein, the stage-diving alone sealed the deal!!! ?The guy is fucking rock n' roll! ? ?

 :yes:

Yes

But I think Richard should handle most of Slashs solos.

Leave Finck to the new stuff.

Yes, BIG YES!  Robin is my favorite out of everyone in the band (minus axl)

He's a great guitarist, he does justice to all the old stuff, his new stuff is amazing, his stage presence is unmatched by any other guitarist.  If Robin left this project my interest in it would drop tremendously.

BIG YES For Robin!  Loved him since i first seen him perform with NiN at Woodstock 94 (Mud pigs, great show)

no from me

not impressed

Yes.

I like Robin, and he has improved a lot, BUT I still don't think he is the best guitarist around.

Oh, and isn't he the one who wrote Better? Yay for Robin!  :beer:

we think so, before better at a gig which i cant remeber axl said something like "this is a robin song"

NO!!!!

But its doesnt matter what we think, he is in the band!!!

A big no!

But we've been over it all before.....

quite right, i remember just the other day wasnt it.its gettin old like the reunion threads

Aye, it wont get any better for him either I reckon. He's average at best Imo.

I reckon thats being generous too.

i say he's average too. his solo's dont go anywhere really, his image doesnt help him i dont think either

Wouldnt worry about the image too much mate, Axl will tell him to change it again before long I reckon.

He'd look better in a top hat.

that would be an insult!!!he'd look better in NIN again, with slash back in the saddle in GNR : ok:

slashisvr you just said in an earlier post that the finck threads are getting old like the reunion ones, and here we have you basically saying "robin fuck off, we want slash" give it a rest for fuck sake, this is gnr wether you like it or not

they are getting old, it was a disscusion with locomotive98 what locomotive98 thought and what i did!!!if you follow it!!!

Yup, Ill back you up there Mr Slash.

I agree that the Finck threads are getting old. Shit, I dont know why the guy even deserves my opinion. But nevermind.

Lets leave poor ol Robin alone now.....

oyez, a huge AYE!


Gracious heavens, damn straight, you hit the right nail on the head.
Any girl or a boy with a sense of art would agree with ya.
hell I wouldn't go to the length of being that frank as I feel sorry for the blokes who're no robin, seeing all the jealous attacks against him like the few posts above mine.
Yep, the nature is sorta unfair but that's life. :hihi:
Yep he has the very fine poetic quality that reflects beauty on the music.

Dear Mademoiselle aka Jessica... that's all I wanted to say, you said everything else? :love:

slash plays with more energy than robin could even dream of!!slash pisses all over robin!!!

I said Id leave it alone, but I just cant.

Slash, boring??? CLASSIC!!! ?:rofl: :rofl:

Anda few cliched stages dives isnt?!

At least Slash played with soul on the songs that HE wrote!!!!

Robin Finck can only hope to reach those heights set by Slash. The guy is a joke. How can he be better as a Guns guitarist when hes only played a few new songs. If it wasnt for Slash you wouldnt have any of these fucking songs for this joker to butcher at every gig he attempts.

So once again, my answer to Robin Finck is no.

C*nt.

and aaron just pisses in robin's shoes... ?:P...

ah well... everyone has right to say what everyone thinks... already said many times, no need to compare robin and slash... bot are awesome guitar players... depends which personality one prefers...

and I definetly prefer Robin's ?:)

yeah, but i dont see how people can say he's better than slash when robin is playing his stuff

I don't think I ever said he is better or worse than slash... I was just typing my personal preferences. Blone or Black? You choose... simple as that.

Agreed Slashisvr. Fuck we just cant leave it alone can we.

I bet if Pantera reformed with some cock from Nickelback or something on guitar people would be saying 'Oh duuuude, hes so much better than Dimebag'. No respect to Dime God rest his soul.

Its a joke to suggest that someone who plays someone elses songs badly having supposedly been learning them for 10 years is better than the real deal. Its not just a joke its a fucking ludicrous insult to sensible minded Guns fans around the world. And an insult to all the former band achieved. I.e writing the songs that that you pay $70.00 to see played by a bunch of hacks.

When theres a reunion, what will you people say then 'Oh we want Richard Fortus, we want Robin Finck'

Like fuck you would.

i was refering to people in general, i spose it is like that but this band shouldnt be guns n roses it should be a solo project!!what robin and evreyone else has contributed isnt guns, its something else, i like it dont get me wrong, but its not all out rock like guns were saying that, its not the 80's early 90's anymore.but then again VR manage to keep the meaning of classic rock going

Why does your opinion have to be everyone's opinion?

For one I hope there will be no reunion and I say it loud now: 'Oh I want Richard Fortus, I want Robin Finck"

And I say loud ?also: 'You like better old GNR / Slash? Great! Good for you. You have 3 and a half records out and you have VR now... Enjoy!'

question, was you an original gnr fan before the change of line up??

I will be 29 soon... 15 - 10 years ago I was original gnr fan, I hope... afterwards I moved on to NIN, MM and similar bands... Mars Volta ;)... now I am fan of the GNR leaks and also way how this band plays the old songs. I will buy new GNR record, new NIN record, new MM record, probably new Autolux record and so on... and no I won't buy new VR record... Blame me for that. Or don't blame me. I am just sincere in here...?

no ones blaming anyone!!opinions are as they are!!some strongly viewed like mine!!!!im a fan of they new band, but no where near as much as the old one.they new band are good, but individuals are diffrent.on the whole the new gnr are ok.good ok, ill buy the album and go see them, but they are nothing to the old band!!!i dont care what anyone says

me too... and that's OK  : ok: :love:

I'm an orignal GNR fan too. ?Slash is the man, is much better than any other.
But I think there is no need to compare Slash and Robin. ?
My answer is YES to Robin. ?I like him and the way he plays.

how can that be said, i mean do you think he does slash's solos justice??

Oops, i know, i can be a little " too " franc sometimes :-X :-\

I never liked endless slash solos in GNR, first of all because i am a piano girl more than guitar, and also because i think it killed melodies in the end. It was too long.
Slash has marvellous abilities, yes, but i question his musicality, not his skills.

As a person from the audience, with a bit of common sense, HAVING to watch a guy who is drunk play guitar for hours and not even reckognising the melody was a nightmare.

His stage presence would have been improved, but his demons were more present than his soul.

Robin is different.

slash's presence couldnt be improved. his presence is awsome, as for the guitar solos i love them, but as a piano player i can see why u differ, but he is not boring, i mean i get bored when dizzy does a solo.slash rules, he is better prepared than robin, he knows in his mind where the solo is going slash has improvision, robin doesnt, it just goes anywhere!!!

sorry but..... bring slash back!!!!!

we agree to disagree then ? :hihi:

so we do and locomotive98 i think.....

He lack some "taste" when it comes to playing old songs/solos, but hes "ok" otherwise. Though I still would prefer Richard to do most of the solos.

I fuckin say YES to Robin!!! : ok:

He's my favorite from the new lineup, I dig his playing and style a lot, he has a great stage presence and charisma!


I don't know why we always end up comparing him to Slash.. move on already, I for one, will always be a big Slash fan and I reckon he is better in his style than Finck, but he's gone now, and Robin isn't as bad as everyone is always trying to make him be.. he can play the guitar, he's no average at all, he's got the whole package which is not easy to find.. he not only plays good but he looks cool as fuck while doing it and he's got this quality where you are just drawn to him and you can't take your eyes away from him.. he makes playing the guitar look like it's some easy thing and he looks so natural and like it just flows effortlessly for him.. and he puts so much emotion and passion into his playing..

so he ain't no Slash.. so what? we don't want an Slash impersonator.. I'm glad he's got his own style and that it's nothing like Slash's but at the same time it's nothing short of amazing either

At first I hated the guy, now I just don't know anymore. He does seem to have improved a lot since 2001-02, but he still can't play the November Rain or SCOM solos the way they're supposed to be played. On the other hand he does a pretty good job with Patience.

I just remember cringing in 2002 when I saw him...

A massive yesssssss for Robin.  He's absolutely brilliant and he totally rocks!!!!

BIG YES to Robin!!! Hes the man

No, with a copy paste of what I didn't say on another forum :

Slash has a lot more charisma than Finck, he has a poetic presence (although that doesn't make sense in GN'R) whereas Finck is just a beard with weird American Civil War clothes covering GN'R and Christina Aguilera's songs for MONTHS and getting lost in Slash's solos as he has no idea about guitar playing.

I'm not so sorry to say that Finck always bored the shit out of me and he is boring to watch.

Finck can't be compared with great guitarists such as Paco de Lucia or R. Blackmore. He is unknown basically. AND RIGHTFULLY SO.

Finck is unwatchable. When he plays people would like to run, but they stay because of Axl.

He is pointless (universally speaking)

 : ok:

"...you know you are...bring it down you're fuckin' crazy..."


Anyway, if it's not Slash it has to be Robin. So hell yes for him!

"slash has a lot more charisma than finck" ------ erm, u obviously havnt watched a guns n roses show lately have u?

Forget it. ::)

well i just say fuck yeah to robin.. really like him a lot

Is your last name Hudson by any chance...?  ::)

Robin Finck = Yes

No, but I like him a lot. I think Slash is GN'R. : ok:

Ok. I think Axl is Gnr.  :peace:

y forget it?

I am surprised I haven't posted in this topic yet. Anyway...On with the Robin propaganda show. A big fucking YES. Robin is the new sound of yesterday's tomorrow.

A massive fuckin' NO.

Why?

He sucks. :hihi:

fuck off then

Robin Finck - Yes

There's kind of a paradox here...Robin's solo on November Rain doesn't sound nearly as good as Slash's, but on the other hand he does an amazing job with the rhythm parts on that song. His playing, except for the solo, sounded amazingly beautiful on that song, when I heard it live In Helsinki and wathched it on the Rock Am Ring 2006 show. Maybe Robin should stick to rhythm and let the others do the solos...

I like his solo @RAR2006 very much... sounds cool. Also, listening to the "old - AFD/UYI" versions of these songs I am starting to miss Robin, Richard and Bumble guitar work... so that is kind of cool feeling... and yes Robin is amazing rythm player... just listen to NR, KOHD or Patience  : ok:

Robin looks very cool guy , and if to think his solo in November Rain not so sucks. He and Axl work together almost 10 years,  so why not? :)

BIG fuckin YES to Robin!  Been a fan of his work since 1st seeing him play at Woodstock 94 with NiN, he's an awesome guitarist with great stage prescense(sp?).  Found myself watching him on stage just as often as Axl at the Hammerstein shows back in May. 

so true man, robin tanks on many solos... if he wasn't in new gnr people would bash his covers.. Just being he is people force themselves to love him otherwise the role players here who defend new gnr or axl24-7 would look foolish.. How many bashed b foot years ago, now they all(most) love him, or since finck dropped that gothish look now they love him.. Many weirdos around here..

Yes to Robin.

He's GN'R all the way.

I'm tired of people who can't let go of the fucking PAST.

It's the same debate for 10+ years ... Kinda boring :yes:

Finck brings his personality on the stage, and he's a good player too, I like his rythming parts and all the solos on the new tracks. Plus he brought "Better" to the band wich is a track a lot of fans seems to dig.

There's no new GN'R, there's just GN'R.

No hard feelings :beer:

Why are you people telling to "let go of the fucking PAST"? Why should we? We should just ignore our favorite band?
Can't we just like the old and new GN'R, or can we only like the new? It's just fucking weird here, more you hate the old Guns N' Roses the better you are. what the fuck is going on?

so fucking stupid gnr fans telling you to stop talking about the real gnr that sold 10s and 10s of millions of albums, but instead should love the ones riding the coatails who are playing the same old tour for years with no new album yet..

Long live afd gnr, the only gnr the mainstream world knows

I think that what Rourke meant was that people should stop comparing the two bands and bash the new band just because the old was better. I mean, i love the old band more than any other band in history but it`s gone a long time ago and as soon as i realised it i stop comparing (so much) the two bands, etc The new band plays the old songs well but they ain`t Slash wannnabes and their play feeling is different than Slash`s so they don?t play the solos exactly like slash but this doesn`t mean that they suck, etc  and this doesn`t imply that i can`t like this new band nor adore excusively the old band.  ;)

Thankx Gueli, that was my point : ok:

I'm not saying to anybody to love or hate the new or old line-up of GN'R, I'm just saying that it's been 10+ years now since they parted ways, so maybe it's time to let go ...

I mean the GN'R that was Axl + Slash + Duff + Izzy + Steven is just gone and it's not going to come back ...


That's not what I meant Makane, sorry if I hurted you :beer:

I'm just saying that your favorit band has changed a lot. You know, it's boring when people call GN'R "Axl's solo project", or "Nu GN'R", or call the guys in the band "hired hands" that don't have a voice and shit ...

Axl does seem a lot happier onstage nowadays, so I guess he's happy within this line-up right ? They gave the feeling of being a band, when the "classic" GN'R looked more (to me) like isolated guys on the same stage.

Hope you get me people, english isn't my language :beer:

take him or leave him. hes a'ight

robin rules :smoking:

can't wait to see him in a guitar magazine

his customs kick ass :beer:

Robin is awesome, I can't wait for Guitar World to do a cover story on Robin, Ron,  and Richard.

His writing for the tracks we have seen so far is amazing.

TWAT is a master piece and Robin has written the majority of it. Absolutely amazing.

Still don't dig him, but i tolerate him, and I agreee he should stick to the thythm parts on the old songs. Let Richard play the solos Robin screws up. And yes, I would like a reunion and Slash back in GN'R all that "PAST and dead horse" stuff.

A couple of things:
Like Axl?? Playing almost the entire show full PAST songs?


He's not good enough to make it to a guitar magazine, but being in GN"R might grant him that.

where does it tell us who wrote what parts of the new music, or the leaks at least?

What? not good enough? serious? the same magazines that put Good Charlotte on their covers. Yea o.k :no: ::) ???

Well, THAT kind of magazines maybe... yeah, not good enough for the real deal....   :-\

Richard is better, not to mention Ron, but all in all Robin is kinda cool... ALthough i would rather have him in NIN...   :smoking:

I was sceptical to Robin in 2001/2002, felt he wasn't up there with Bucket, but he grew on me, and now I just love his guitar sound. His version of the SCOM solo is maybe my favorite rendition of it, cause everytime i hear that song now, I expect to hear Robins screeching guitar sounds. I'm glad he goes his own way, he truly has his own style, and that's more important than being blistering fast.

Yes...yes....YES!  Awesome guitarist :love:

well these days guitar mags aren't about talent it's about who's selling albums currently or someone known.. You aren't going to put nobodies on the cover being it won't sell mags..

Well I just picked up the new Guitar World magazine that had Lamb Of God on the cover and I know NOONE that listens to this band and please do not go all "Blabbermouth" on me and talk about slayer and all these other bands that sell 100,000 copies of each album

Robin Finck is good enough for Guitar World or Guitar One and I want to see him in one  :beer:

agreed dude.

what i'd really like to see is Finck and Fortus both on the cover  :peace:

Yes - Fink is great

so I guess finck can be on it, they seem to put anybody up there

By the way album sales mean dick, I bet ac/dc could release an album sell 500,00o copies and sellout any venue they play anywhere in the world..

Yea your right, so what are you trying to say?  all i'm saying is i would like to see finck in a guitar magazine. Who cares who's on it or whatever. I don't care if Lamb of God guitarist or on there or not. there pretty good from what i've heard about them and from the tab in the book. I'm not a overblown know it all critic, i'm a fan.

Me= robin finck fanboy :smoking:

I was just messing with you.. I really like axl, I have seen finck and the others live 5 times but I am more old school.... For myself slash will always be the gnr guitarist.... That goes for any guitar rock band I like..

I'll always follow their careers (afd gnr) so that is why I continue to follow axl's..

you liked finck too, you told me that in person  :D  The old band aside, you do like Finck.  :beer: