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Brokeback Mountain star Heath Ledger will play The Joker in the next Batman film, titled The Dark Knight, film studio Warner Brothers has announced.
The Australian actor reprises the role memorably played by Jack Nicholson in 1989's Batman film.

Ledger earned an Oscar nomination as a gay cowboy in Brokeback Mountain.

British actor Christian Bale will play the Caped Crusader for a second time after last year's Batman Begins, with Christopher Nolan again directing.

Casting challenge

It will be the sixth Batman film since his 1989 return, with Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer and George Clooney having played the role prior to Bale.

The Dark Knight is scheduled to go into production next year.

"Our challenge in casting The Joker was to find an actor who is not just extraordinarily talented but fearless," said Memento director Nolan.

"Watching Heath Ledger's interpretation of this iconic character taking on Christian Bale's Batman is going to be incredible."

Ledger's other films include The Brothers Grimm, Ned Kelly, Monster's Ball, A Knight's Tale and The Patriot.


Just....laughable

They already made this film in '89 - and that film was fantastic - is Hollywood really so creatively bankrupt?!?

Why would anyone want to see a remake of a film thats already just about perfect?

Perhaps beacuse the first one isn't all that true to the comics?

Batman going around killing people?


Super.

wow, i always though heath ledger was a talentless piece of shit. in comparison to Jack he'll come off even worse.

Still, off the top of my head i cant think of anyone i'd like to play the joker...

Hugo Weaving might be fun

Buckethead.

wesley snipes

I really dont see the point of this. ???  There's no way he's gonna top Jack Nicholson

Me

or Clint Eastwood

Clint Eastwood as the joker?  How would that work? ???

Crispin Glover would be a great JOKER !
(http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/8993/cglover1-1.gif)

really talented actor ... and really mad :)

(http://www.moviemantz.com/review_shots/willard3.jpg)

Georges MacFly !

Mark Hamill....his voice over work was amazing in the Animated Series and, quite frankly, I could see him in the makeup.


Ledger could be good...but I've not seen him do the sort manic range of emotion type role that Joker will require.? With Bale, you knew you were getting a good Batman because of American Psycho.? With Ledger...he's got nothing in his body of work that would make me thing he's going to be able to pull off the role.  Then again, I thought casting Topher Grace as Eddie Brock in Spidey 3 sounded pretty boneheaded, too.  But by all accounts he's done a great job, so...what do I know.

Oh, and I could see Crisping "I'm a huge whackjob" Glover playing the Joker....but he tends to avoid big budget Hollywood fare like the plague.

I agree with you that the '89 Batman film is great, one of my all time favorites. But this isn't a remake, Batman Begins has nothing to do with the previous four. It's a brand new interpretation. I liked this one better than the previous two(Batman Forever and Batman & Robin) but I still have mixed feelings about it. Christian Bale seems too cocky as Bruce Wayne and tries too hard to be scary as Batman. I hope this sequel will be better.

Remake/new interpretation - what does it matter?

Its not going to beat Tim Burton's hand at the helm, Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne or Jack Nicholson's manic Joker - so why even try?

Every person who sees it will be comparing it to the original - and on the strength of the dire Batman Begins - its just setting itself up for a pounding

Batman Begins was ace. I think that you've got nostalgia poisoning or something :P, Burton's Batman was good, maybe even great, but it was nowhere near perfect! It was a bit thin in places, and having the Joker kill Bruce's parents wrapped everything up far too nicely.

And it doesn't fall under the 'new interpretation' bracket, god forbid the remake one. The only similarity with Burton's will be the characters. There are a ton of Joker story arcs out there for Nolan to choose from, Burton's film had little to do with the comics.

What does ace mean? Are you saying BB was good or bad?

If you drew an ace when splitting the deck, would it be good or bad?

Oh, I see.

(You play ace high, yeah?)

What if somebody told you to, "ace that jacket"?

Agreed.  He'd be great.  Still, Ledger has potential, especially in Nolan's hands...

Batman Begins was one of the worst movies I watched last year.

Christian Bale is about as charismatic as a flip flop. Horrible movie and I agree with Izzy.... what are they thinking?


I like Heath Ledger but "The Joker"

I dont see it.

Please tell me you are kidding.  All of the batman movies (minus batman begins) were just god awful.

but i have my issues with batman begins too.  it shouldn't be that hard to make a good superman/batman movie....spiderman has 2 solid movies with a really good looking teaser trailer for #3.

No, I am not kidding, I'm allowed to have my own opinion. I don't think any of the Bat' movies were horrible but they're are ones that I don't think are good as others. The one from 1989 is my favorite and Michael Keaton is my favorite Batman. What I liked about Batman Begins was how Bruce's parent's weren't killed by The Joker so maybe he'll be in more than one sequel.

Oh come on, heath ledger may be funny looking but hes no joker.
I can see Jim Carrey making a really god joker for some reason.

heres a pic of the new Joker

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1194/clearjokerdb2.jpg

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1194/clearjokerdb2.jpg)

 :o

WTF is that? Is that Heath Ledger or Madonna Wayne Gacy?

i loved Batman Begins. D and Izzy are seriously the first people i've encountered who didn't like that movie. i have been a Batman fan since i was a kid and this movie captured him perfectly. its easily the best of the Batman movies. The four movies were either too campy(Batman Forever, Batman and Robin) or too dark (Batman, Batman Returns), and they were just so hard to take seriously. for Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Nolan has chosen to take the middleground between these two extremes and also make the story more realistic and believable.

i have faith in Heath Ledger as well as Christopher Nolan and co. i'm sure this movie will be awesome.


Izzy, the first movie was okay but as someone stated earlier it wasnt true to the comics at all.

Batman killing villains/bad guys is just absurd, it makes him just as bad as they are.

Most of batman's villains in the other movies were way too campy and one dimensional, like Two face and Riddler etc.

Ledger's take on joker is said to be much much deeper and will truly exbibit how sick and twisted the joker really is. I think part of the story and the interpretation of the Joker will come from the comic "The Killing Joke", when the Joker shoots barbera gordon (commisioner gordon's daughter) and paralyzes here and takes the commisioner hostage and attempts to drive him crazy by showing him naked pictures of Barbera tied up etc.  among other fucked up things.

Is the Joker's look really a surprise to anyone? Nolan spelled it out pretty much immediately after Begins came out. The idea has even been ripped off in the comic book recently;

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/003589913.cfm?popup=1

The movie version is looking good. Glad they've gone back to the original inspiration for the character.

I loved Batman Begins.

That said, I think, thus far, my favorite Batman film was Batman Returns, which I felt was the most underrated film in the Burton/Shusucker series. It was very dark, very Burton.

I liked the '89 Batman film but thought it was somewhat overrrated. Batman Forever and Batman and Robin sucked balls. WB shouldn't have let Burton go.

Here's how I rate the films

Batman Returns A+
Batman Begins A
Batman B+
Batman Forever C-
Batman and Robin F

Batman Begins was awesome! I can't wait for the next one.

Did you do that on Windows Vista?

You'd really rate Oscar Cobblepot Goes To Washington over Batman Begins? Really really? Michelle Pfeiffer in a vinyl cat-suit is absolutely one of the greatest things ever committed to film but beyond that and Christopher Walken the movie is pretty much crap. I'd say both Burton movies are over-rated and have aged horribly, the only thing they have going for them is that they aren't the Schumaker  movies.

Are you talking about the picture? It originated here; http://ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/
It's gone now though. Replaced by a hidden message. December should be interesting.

December? Why what's happening then? Christmas?

Teaser trailer

Its good to see they are doing something different with the joker this time around. I think it will be cool. More realistic.


I think you guys shouldn't be so quick to judge.

this isnt going to be a remake of the 1989 film....i dont know why you think it is...the only thing the two have in common is that the Joker is in it.....thats it.....the joker is his main enemy why wouldnt they put him in one of the movies?

yeah i agree, not only is this NOT a remake, but? it'll be a completely different interpretation of the Joker too.

I suppose we'll have to wait and see how good Heath's interpretation is, but to me Jack Nicholson was the perfect Joker.

Of course Nicholson did a great job, but i'm happy Heath Ledger isn't looking to just copy him and is trying something different. I dont think Nicholson's Joker would work very well in the new and more realistic approach Nolan has taken for these movies.

I love The Batman. Always have. Here's how I rank it (so far):

Batman Returns (Hands down. Burton's Batman wasn't the comic book Batman, it was Burton's Batman. That's why he killed. He was a fucked up, sociopathic, gothic nightmare.)
Batman (Started it all, didn't it?)
Batman Begins (Loved it. Best action movie in ages. But my nostalgiac allegiance is to Burton. This was a better made and smarter film than Burton's first Batman.)
Batman Forever (Val Kilmer's actually a fantastic actor and shows through the ridiculous suit as best he can. He shines as Bruce Wayne, but the movie is too flawed in too many ways to hold in any seriousness.)
Batman & Robin (Not a bad movie mind you, just really something that should stand more on its own than at the tail end of a series that started with a completely opposite intent. Take it for what it is. It's not a bad movie.)

That all said, I can't wait for The Dark Knight. I expect it'll eclipse Batman Begins in the minds of many a fan. I hope some of the rumors I've been hearing about Bale's new duds are true (if you're not up-to-date on that, that's your fault). Crispin Glover's long been my favorite actor, actually. I immediately connected him to the Joker upon Nolan's re-imagining of the mythos. But he was sadly looked over, oh well. The fanboys need to stop bitching. I have faith in Nolan. Bale was inspired casting, and he pulled off Liam Neeson as Ra's al Ghul (to an extent).

i think the joker looks cool,  i like the scars on the side of his mouth and the sloppy make-up job,  he looks like a total psycho-  the next step is seeing how his acting as the joker is i suppose.   
i'm also curious to see the new bat-suit looks too,  from what i heard it will probably be the coolest one.

He looks like Kakihara. Well, that's the obvious conclusion. I'm sure a lot of people'll see that based on the pic.

Batman and Robin was fucking awful. George Clooney has told fans that he will refund their money to any fan that asks him.

Batman v Joker....AGAIN.....not a remake?

ORLY

well being that these are completely different interpretations of Batman and Joker, no, its not a remake. not at all.

look at all the comic books with Batman and Joker, would u consider them all ripping off the first person who introduced the joker? hell no. all of those have different takes and interpretations of Batman and the joker too.


by the way, i sill love the animated series that was on fox during the 90's. Batman: The ANimated Series i think it was called, awesome awesome stuff. like it wasnt geared towards kids, the episodes were creative and not formulaic at all. i actually had the opportunity to watch all of them recently and they are still just as good.

they were so popular that warner bro. decieded to make a theatrical release based on the animated series called Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. which was just amazing!! at the time many critics said it was the best batman movie/interpretation out there, including the live actions ones!!

i still own it, good stuff. Mark Hamill(luke skywaker) is actually the voice of the Joker in it and he does a fantastic job.

i can still say that the Batman/Bruce Wayne from the animated series is the definitive Batman for me. although the one in Batman Begins would be a very close second.

I believe Heath legder will do Something different with the Character Than the jack nicholson do.
Hell, maybe we can watch Batman and Joker first love Scene's ever.

do you even know what a remake is??

No :confused:

....moving on

we have already SEEN this film, okay so the plot this time will be even more irrelevant, the explosions will be bigger and its 3 hr running time will be full of MORE cliches....

...but Batman vs a pantomine escapee? We've seen it!

Give us new villians!

Everyone will leave that film going 'oh this guy was so much better than Jack Nicholson' or 'that guy sucked, Jack was way better!'

whats the point? Flogging a dead horse perhaps? Milking a franchise?

If they cant think up ONE new villian then i'm guessing creativity isnt going to be exactly flowing on set

The sequal is all set to feature Batman against Two-Face - havent we seen that before too?

''just change the Batmobile, have a new Butler....and present it all as new - hurrah genius, another 5 sequals!''

Maybe they could keep this going every 20 years or so?

o man, i give up with u Izzy.

The Two Face we have seen was a one dimensional, campy, carbon copy of the riddler.

this new two face will be way different.

since he was the district attorney after all, so we'lll also see his tranformation into two-face as well.?


and this joker will be COMPLETELY different than jack nicholson's with a totally different plot.

and ur missing the point in general, this Batman and gotham and all the characters are COMPELETELY DIFFERENT from Burton's nightmarish Gothic take.

Nolan is using a much more realistic approach and is abandoning Burton's gothic imagery and dark murdering Batman as well as Shumacher's campy nonsense.

yeah great idea Izzy...lets leave out the best villian of the entire Batman series...brilliant....why? oh because there was another Batman movie in 1989 that is part of a completely DIFFERENT franchise!! there was a Batman movie made in the late 60's that had the joker, catwoman. the penguin, and the riddler in it....are those characters off limits too???  by your logic 1989 Batman was a remake of the 60's movie, because the Joker was in it.....you make no sense....

in....deed? That ol' microwave gun springs to mind....realism indeed

remind me...what was the plot of Batman Begins? Man...er.......gets.....suit.....er.....Batman!

In 10 years time we can all decide that this version isnt orthodox enough and start again! Horrah!

We've managed to get every film this summer to end in ''3'' - to think in 10 years time we wont have a single film left that isnt on its 8th sequal!!

Hey dont cry,

Do you think i should go see Batman 6? Or should i wait till the next time they do Batman vs the Joker? Do be warned, i dont think i can wait the necessery 5 years.....

okay lets try this again...

THE MOVIE IS BASED ON A COMIC!!!!

name one comic book movie that doesnt have some kind of outrageous element that would not make sense in real life?

the microwave thing u keep talking about is nothing compared to some of the crazy shit that has gone down in the other Batman movies.

and Izzy,? u can suspend ur disbelief in Rocky movies but superhero/comic movies u are so hard on and analyze like crazy.

Well, I like this Batman better than Burton's (and I loved Burton's version of Batman).

Call me crazy but I do.

Christian Bale is way better than all previous actors.

But let's not forget that it's all about taste. I like it, you don't. Fine with me.

Oh, and Joker is a classic villain in the Batman saga. They can't just leave him out...

Also don't forget that they took the story from the very beginning and started it all over again in a very different style. So they can't leave Joker out of the story...

^yeah, it seems like they are in a lose/lose situation.

if they leave him out, people will bitch that Batmans number one archenemy isnt around.

if they include Joker, then there are people like izzy who flip out and think its a remake, not to mention the unavoidable comparisons to Jack Nicholson.


i really dont have a problem with it, i mean Nicholson's joker was different thatn Cesar Romero's campy portrayal in the 60's film, and i'm sure Ledger's joker will be differnet and cool in his own way.

That made me think about the new GN'R a bit.

I like where the new Batman series is going. I really liked Batman Begins and can't wait to see how the next one turns out. I liked Burtons versions but i think this one is better so far.

no offense, but i really have no clue why people love the tim burton batman movies so much.  the first one was barely ok and the 2nd one, with the penguin, my god, that movie makes a bowl of turds look like an academy award winner.

I don't know i've just always liked his style of movies.

If any of you collected Batman comics like 15 years ago or a little more you'd remember the carryover mini-series where Robin #2 ends up being killed by the joker in the end.

I think I still have the compilation comic somewhere.

This story would make for a damn good movie.

u mean Jason Todd? crazy shit. that would make a good movie!!

Yeah, I think it was Jason Todd.

The readears actually voted in to determine if he ended up dying or not.

Did you read the series?

Yeh, I think that in the comic Robin gets beaten to death with a crowbar......

i'm a huge batman fan but i have to say the only comic book series i read was Knightfall. *runs and hides*

i just know about all three of the Robins in the comic book from talking to friends and reading stuff online, thats how i knew about jason todd.

http://www.superherostuff.com/OtherItems/comics/images/batmandeathfam.html

Here's the link to the compilation graphic novel that I have, in horrid condition BTW  :hihi:

And Stolat, he gets beaten with a crowbar but he survives that..

^that comic looks awesome man!!

how about if they did a movie/series based on Knightfall? i think that would be EPIC if done right!!

Mmm, I remember the graphics/artwork in the "killing of Robin #2" comic ......... : ok:

Joker beat him with a crowbar, but he was alive until the building he was in blew up.  He has recently returned to the comics, though. So he aint dead. That said, hopefully Heaths Joker never has to deal with Robin.

Ah , but is it Robin #2 or Robin #3 that has returned?...

Robin #2 was Jason Todd, he was in a building that Joker blew up. He has recently returned, but I didnt read how.  Robin #3 is Tim Drake, who is still Robin.

...glad that was cleared up :hihi:

good bless comics....without their utter defiance of logic and common sense i feel the world would be a sadder place

Yeah, I was just trying to clear it up so we could actually talk about Ledger being Joker.

do yourself a BIG favor and read Frank Millers "the dark knight returns".  One of the best graphic novel ever written.

isnt there another one by Frank Miller, i read that in that series or a sequel or something that batman fights superman? besides the fact that they are both good guys, it also bothered me?cuz superman would kick his ass, although i know batman wore a special suit or something.

but yeah i have heard alot of good stuff about The Dark Knight Returns, i will try to check it out.?

Your thinking of "The Dark Knight Returns".

Probably the greatest comic book ever written in my opinion.

really??? that whole premise just bothers me though.... batman fighting superman? o well i'll still check it out

I think you will like it man, its very well written and the artwork is very cool

don't read the Dark knight returns 2 though.....don't even wipe your ass with it.  i wish i hadn't read it to be honest.  really lame.

another unreal batman story is by Frank Miller, Batman Year 1

god i'm such a geek haha

for the Dark Knight Returns 2 u mean The Dark Knight Strikes Again? i was actually planning on picking that up cuz surprsingly enough my library has it.

where could i find The Dark Knight Returns? just a comic store or book store right? what im saying is its not out of print or anything right?

Def not, i know they did a recent reprint.

I thought the sequel was jus DK2 or something.

whatever it is, skip it. it sucks.

check out year 1 instead.

You can find it at any comic store. just look in the graphic novel section  : ok:

^awesome thanx!

my library has Batman Year One!! i'm gonna pick it up tommorow.

see now I dont know if you are just trying to be annoying or if you really dont understand the concept that this is a DIFFERENT franchise of Batman....

Alot of people dont know that. it really pisses me off. Im sick and tired of trying to explain these things to people.

well you know "batman begins" really isnt a clear indication.... : ok:

Yeah me too... I remember there was a rumor about a Batman v Superman... Glad thats outta the wroks though....

There is indeed a comic where Batman fights Superman - the front cover shows Batman and Superman locked in a deadly embrace.

Well if the title isn't, then the movie is. It directly conflicts with the origin told in Batman '89 where the Joker kills his parents. In BB, it's a common thug (which is how the comics always had it but Burton changed it). People who could actually sit through BB and think it's a prequel are pretty damn dumb in my opinion. Besides that, if you enjoy the movie then buy the 2-disc DVD and you'll see Nolan say it straight up in interviews that his film about Batman has nothing to do with B89 or the other 3 Batman films, although he has big-time respect for B89.

I don't think there's any confusion about Nolan's Batman being  a remake, it's just Izzy being a schmuck. His argument is that since the Joker has already been in a Batman film in his lifetime the combination should never be used again. Which is like saying that Superman films should never again use Lex Luthor, or that Spider-Man should never again face off against Doc Ock.  It's uh, what do you call it? Stupidity.

The Joker is an essential ingredient in the continued success of Batman as a franchise in any format. The characters are nemeses, their relationship within the Batman mythos is unique. Entire storylines have hinged on the clash of personalities of the two characters and their ongoing vendetta without the need for convoluted plots and dubious motivations, which is more than you can say for non-entities like Mad Hatter, Deadshot, etc.

I'd rather see Batman facing off against an equally well conceived character instead of some random pot-luck pick from the DC back-catalogue. Your milage may vary. If all you're after is a monster-of-the-week, might I recommend any crappy hour-long on the sci-fi channel?

In "A Death in the Family" Batman is very pissed at one point an punches Superman in the face.

He shudders in pain and says "I think I broke it". (his hand)

Superman goes "No, but badly bruised".  :hihi:   needless to say a Superman vs Batman feud would be ludicrous.

It does amuse me how angry your getting by all this....maybe thats my motivation?

Who knows, maybe i'm actually intrested in the film and am baiting the bear?

Who's to say?

We are now on our third Batman v Joker film - perhaps my comments are a somewhat sardonic appraisal of a Hollywood with no ideas left, that now finances itself via people going back to old stories with the belief 'they can do it better'

Perhaps i write as a sly comment on the new breed of fan-boys, nerds who read comic books (ye gods comics for gods sake!), a breed given public airing by the internet. Now a film is ''good' or ''bad'' depending on how faithful it is to a comic book!

When good stories are used up - quick! What has Frank Miller been writing? Make a film out of that!

Its hilarious reading these posts, this film will be ''good' because it takes an existing comic and translates it word for word to the screen - and yet the same people deride Hollywood's lack of imagination! - These people want a story identical to one they already know, oh the terrors of a new interpretation!

People dont like that Tim Burton tried a new apoproach - oh no, they want it exactly as it was in the comics - how daring!

I like good cinema, and i'll be off to ''The Dark Knight'' and i'll give it every chance to impress me - but cant you fan-boys savour the delcious irony of a film industry savaged for giving the public exactly what it wants?

In 20 years time we'll have Batman vs The Joker again....

what was the second   ???

he means the  one in the 1960's with joker, riddler, catwoman when Ceser Romero was the joker, and of course the 1989 one with Nicholson.

Yeah, my rage is just boiling over. Must be your sardonic wit, cutting to the core. The bag of maybes in your post suffers from a few glaring factual errors, here's the highlights; Batman Begins wasn't in any way faithful to the comic book it's based on. People dislike the Tim Burton movies so much that they spawned three sequels and the first and second movies have been used as benchmarks repeatedly in this thread. This "new breed of fanboys, nerds who read comic books" don't, as far as I'm aware, set the standards by which movies are judged, The Dark Knight isn't based on a specific book to be re-produced word for word, and no-one is saying that the movie would be "good" if that was the case, you've constructed enough straw men there to pick a partner and play 2v2 on a half-court. 

I have no idea what movies you do actually like but I'll put $100 bucks on you seeing TDK on opening day and then rushing back here to tell us how much it sucked. I'm sure the phrase "microwave gun" will be referenced. In fact, I'll give you the $100 bucks if you manage to post a "sardonic appraisal" of a review, full of "sly comments" without  using the words "Jack" or "Nicholson".

But that's for later. Between now and then I'll be savoring the delicious irony of a film industry savaged  by some guy on the internet who seems to be surprised anew each time some summer "blockbuster" turns out to be a crapfest. Seriously Izzy, have you actually seen a movie you liked? Because I'd be more interested in reading posts about things that you liked and why you liked them, as opposed to "ten reasons why a movie based on a disneyland ride wasn't spiritually fulfilling for me/Sam Raimi touched my childhood in the no-no place."

^^^^  great post.  couldn't have said it better myself.

although izzy did say he was really excited to see the transformers movie.

lol yeah but being that its directed by Michael Bay i'm not gonna be expecting much, just fun action.

but i'm sure Izzy will take it too seriously and painfully analyze every little thing about it.

anyway i just found a website that says that pic of the joker was fake, so who knows:

http://buzzecho.com/?p=18

Yeh! The lips are all female.

Yea It looks fake.
Btw Batman and Robin is the worst superhero movie ever.
How can they make a nipple in Batman and  Robin Costume. and Didn't make it in the Batgirl Costume.
How Unfair.

HAHHAHAHA

good point. it was Joel Schumacher's idea to put nipples on the batman and robin's costumes cuz he said he got the idea from statues of greek god's or something.

but yes i agree Batman and Robin was pretty bad, it didnt even do that well at the box office, it was just a huge all around failure.

 ::)

er...wasnt i saying how much i liked the '89 Batman, stuff along the lines of that film was about perfect - no need to do it again? Wasnt that the whole point of this thread (which i actually started!)


oh look! My original post!


feel suitable foolish yet?


havent i written enough about how i liked the first Batman film, the first two Spiderman films and the first POTC film? Because i despise the crap sequals that followed some glorious originals i dont like any film?

Maybe i didnt like these films because they fell so far short of what came before?

Try readng posts - i know after years of tv viewing its tough, but i believe in you - u CAN do it

..and Transformers is gonna rock!

a film about toys being made by a man that fills his films with adverts for everything - its a match made in heaven! If anyone can do giant robots smashing up cities its Michael Bay. Cant wait for it!

How on earth did I miss that nugget of positivity, wedged as it was between one, two. . .  five (!) whiny wrong-headed statements and rhetorical questions?! Total feel suitable foolish!

And to tell the truth I'm not a big fan of television for the same reason that I've skimmed over most of your posts in this thread, I can't stand all of the encores, replays and repeats.

For all the bitching you've done about the shitty movies you felt compelled to view in the last few weeks I really thought that you may have better taste than you were letting on, that your impassioned  pleas for originality and coherence stemmed from standards forged by an appreciation for a better class of film-making. Imagine my surprise when you cite old Batman, Spider-Man and Disney Pirate movies as your benchmark for comparison! Oh alright, I'm no good at feigning surprise. You seem to like a lot of shit, and complain about a lot of other shit. Why are we supposed to care which turds Izzy does or doesn't mind stepping in? Try watching better movies, you might have less to complain about (or at least more interesting complaints.)

 

Hey Izzy ... I would be really curious as to what you made of the Matrix sequels ...
Not out to fight ... just an opinion ...

here are some pics of joker and his gangs

http://media.movies.ign.com/media/752/752133/imgs_1.html

i think the joker looks awesome....

(http://www.musicboxlullabies.com/DKbatsuit.jpg)

http://www.latinoreview.com/news.php?id=2196


the jokers car from the dark knight

i see nothing there.

same here

They removed the "clown car" article because the picture was a fake.

I found it on another site. Too bad its fake it looked cool.

post the pic. want to see what it looked like

Damn that looked sweet! Bugger  :(

http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/06/14/photo-the-jokers-clown-car/